Conference napalm::heavy_metal

    I liked the groove turn-around JB pulled off in the verses...that
    was cool.
    
    The production has really happening.

    
      Checked out the Vidio last night, and loved it!
    
      Definately Zep sounding but I was pleased.  Jason sounding very like
      his late father on drums. 
    
      Definately picking up the LP...

    
    
    	I didn't particularly care for their new song, either.  It's
    	alright but I think they sound TOO much like Led Zep.
    
    	What gets me is that Jason put DOWN Kingdom Come for sounding
    	so much like Led Zep and then he goes and does the same thing.
    	Dad or no Dad - get some originality!
    
    	Tigga~~

    Reaping off of dad..
    
    CJ, who will always love Zeppelin, and hate imposters, even if they
    are related.

    
    
    ha ha h a haha ha ha..........I love it  = :-)
    
    sax
    

    Well, the more and more I hear their first release, I like the tune,
    but it is seriously lacking in lyrics...
    
    "All I want to do....."
    
    Anyone buy the album...got any input?
    
    Cj

    I heard over the weekend that the boys from LED ZEP got back or
    is getting back to do an album with Jason on drums. Seems that Page
    and Plant are gonna try and stick it out for a year and a half.
    
    

    
    
    
    
    I like hearing some "fresh sounding" led zep stuff. Seeing that
    there will never be another band like Zep, ever, it's nice to hear
    some new material that reminds me of Zeppelin.
    
    
    jeff
    

    I suppose someone has to be the goat in this discussion, so it may as
    well be me.
    
    I kind of like the single.
    
    gh

    
    	Re Greg...
    
    	You're not the only one who likes it.... but I have to admit..
    when I first heard it I thought it was new Plant...but all in all
    it's a good tune...
    
    BK
    

                Well, I'd  have  to  go  along  with Greg and BK.
                It's not THAT bad a tune, but I too thought Plant
                had released a new  album.  (Since I have all his
                others  I  was  psyched.   :^))  It's  definitely
                Zep-clonish and did bring back some  memories  of
                Zep-gone-by,  but  the  old  arguement of copying
                someone  elses  style  to make it, comes to  mind
                also.   Still  bugs  me that more bands can't try
                and be unique more often.
                
                Oh well. . .
                
                METALord"�

    Oh, great, another Zeppelin ripoff.  The only thing is that Jason is
    going to make a lot more money at it, because he is Zeppelin Jr.
    
    Whee.

    I like the *music* to the tune.. but lyrics, what lyrics?
    Anyone agree?
    
    CJ

    I saw an interview with Jason Bonham on MTV a few weeks before the
    album was released, and he said it *would* sond a lot like Zep because
    he grew up with Zep and that *was* his major influence in music.
    He compared it to Julian Lennon's dilema of sounding like John ...
    Makes sense to me ... so give the Zep-Clone thing a break will ya?
    
    
    				Scary

    No!  I refuse.  I don't care who is influence was.  He didn't have to
    get a Robert Plant wanna-be to sing.  There's a thousand people in LA
    and England (or wherever he's hanging out) who can sing ten times
    better than that guy.  Drums are one thing, but the music and vocals
    are something else.  It's ridiculous.  
    
    The other thing that irks me is that I saw an MTV special on the band. 
    First of all, why do they get a special?  Because it's John Bonhams
    son.  There are a hundred bands who would deserve a special before
    them.  Second, Robert Plant was on it defending their sound.  Only
    because he's John Bonham's son.  If Plant is going to roust on Kingdom
    Clone, then he should do the same with other sound-alikes.  
    The third thing is that Jason Bonham is the ugliest dude I've seen in a
    a long time.  He's a dork too.  The interviews were lame.
    
    So, no, I won't give this thing a break.
    
    Steve

    re .-2
    And what's wrong with a Zep sound alike?
    
    I agree the vocalist is a Plant clone, but what's wrong with that?
    In fact, I like the way Bonham is putting the drums out front again. What
    ever happened to heavy rock and roll drums?  The last real heavy metal
    drums were from Eddie's brother Alex, and he doesn't do that anymore.
    
    I say let them copy the sound and bring back what could've been the 
    Zeppelin of the 90's. If it bothers you, just turn it off and let us
    *real* Zep fans get a little reminder of the past...  :^)
    
    Long live Led Zeppelin!!!
    
    -rt

    .... ditto ....

    At least Jason admitts that ZEP is influance, BUT KINGDOM *&^&^
    they have never sat down to listen to a ZEP ALBUM, which i might
    believe, Jason grew up in it, his father was 25% of the band
    so if thats the music he wants to play, good for him, i like the
    album i'll listen to it! you don't have to! and what does his looks
    have to do with his playing ability?
    
    Tony
    

    I'm of the opinion that if it sounds good, I like  it, even 
    if it's a blatant rip-off, or doesn't break any new ground.
    Fine.
    Bulletboys sound just like old VH. I love old VH, I like Bulletboys.
    I can't think of how many bands I've heard sound just like AC/DC,
    but I love AC/DC and I like these bands.
    Bonham sounds JUST like LED ZEP, I love zep so I like the Bonham
    stuff I've heard, and he seems to be a pretty good drummer, even
    if he is fat and stupid! ;^)
    
    Anyway, the Bonham single is leaps and bounds better than 
    "Get it On" or whatever it was called by Kingdom Come.
    
    /Motorbreath...honestly thought it was Robert Plant's new single,
    and liked it, so I had to be honest about Bonham.

    Alright, that's fine.  If you want to do that.  Fine.  My point, and
    that of others here is that people like you are supporting these people
    who come out and just dredge up old material in a new song, and get
    famous.  Jason Bonham is no better a drummer than anyone else.  He
    copies his dad.  If I wanted to do that, I could do that.  I don't want
    to.  What's to be said for originality?  The only reason that this lame
    upstart is making money, is because of his name.

    
    There is a fine line between "copy" and "influence". Don't confuse
    the two.

    No confusion here.  
    
    Influence-shminfluence.
    
    You can't get much closer to being an exact replica than that.

    there is a couple of other good songs, the only one i could think
    of right now because it is my favorite song off of the album
    is the last song on the first side called Dreams,
    
    Tony
    

    	DAMN...talk about giving JB some hard knocks. It would seem to me
    that all Bands get their influence from somewhere. bottom line is..if
    you like it buy it and play it.
    
    				Waste Guy
    

    
    
    I thought the single was Plant's, too. But I like it anyway.
    
    I think the "he_wouldn't_be_anybody_if_it_was_not_for_his_dad"
    statement is true, but such is life.
    
    Obviously, if he has any talent then he will have longevity, there
    are thousands of one_hit_and_nowhere musical acts... Time will tell
    if he is another.
    
    A band has its WHOLE life to make its first album, then about six
    months to come up with its second. And many don't have the talent
    or ability. (Boston, Kingdom Clone, etc..)
    
    
Night_Prowler
    

    Just heard on mtv that Friday will have Jason on the Hard 30.  They
    also mentioned that the whole half hour will be dedicated to him.
    Who is this guy????????????????????????????????
    I could think of a thousand other drummers to spend the time on.
    Well since he is Johns son let give him everything.  Next thing
    you know he will be doing an oldsmobile commerical

                                             
    Bill K.

    I saw the Hard 30 interview with JB and I was intrigued by the fact
    that Page and Plant were saying GOOD things about him. They were
    playing a home movie that was title LED ZEPPLIN REUNION practice
    session. They were playing Cashmire sp? and it sounded way lame. 
    
    I think the singer sounds sooooo much like plant. I figured Jimmy would
    say something about it. Maybe they figure they will make so much money
    on a reunion tour that it just wont' matter! 
    
    Anyway I kinda like the songs on the Album, they sound exactly like old 
    Zep. I grew up on Zep and have seen them twice in concert, I miss them and 
    I guess that Bonham is just the next best thing for me.  
    
    
    SLAM

    Did anyone catch this?
    
    I heard that Bonham was going through with his gigs, but was playing
    like this:
    
    First, I heard that he had one guy playing one hand for him while he
    played the other...
    
    Then, I heard he bought an Octapad and was playing the hi-hats and ride
    cymbals with one finger from his broken hand while he played the drums
    with his good hand.
    
    I don't know, though...
    
    S

    MTV showed him using some sort of panelboard which he uses with
    his right hand.   Enquiring minds ...
    
    
    
    
    				Scary

                
                Panelboard?   If  it  was a 4x2 set of rectangles
                then it's a Roland Octopad...
                
                

    Nope, black panel with what appeared to be 1" x 1" buttons ...

     
    All that I can do...
    
    Hello everybody!  JaMmin Jim here on someone elses account.  Remember
    me?  A lone contributor from the great white north?  I'm back from
    college and ready to rock.  How is everyone else; C.J., Devildog,
    Rothberg, PRC, GTI...Etc.
    
    On Bonham...I'm going to have to go with the crew that says, "If you
    like it listen to it, if you don't then don't."
    Personally I like the first single.  The rest of the album has some
    O.K. tunes on it. 
    
                       Have a Merry X-Mas!
                           Jim 
    

    
    When Bonhan's first single came out on the radio I thought it was
    pretty cool.   But their latest single "Guilty" REALLY ticks 
    me off!!!!!!!!!!!! The beginning is a rip off of the intro to
    a Julian Lennon song that I LOVE.  Every time I hear the begininng
    of Guilty I think it is the song I like and then get VERY steamed
    with it turns out not to be!!
    
    Wish this band would get orginal or get lost!!
    
    Rae

    
    	I listened to some of "The Disregard of Timekeeping" on the
    	way in this morning (on loan from my sister's boyfriend).
    
    	YAWN.
    
    	I had all I could do to stay awake.  It bored me.
    
    							GTI
    

    Mad Hatter, the second effort from Bonham, is due out in January.
    
                Should be a cool new year in H_M!!
    
       Frizkid
    

    
    Bonham  - Bonham gets released on June 30.

    Cool! The more bands that sound like Zep the better....
    
     Pete have you seen the Jason Bonham STARLICKS tape?
    
              Frizkid
    

    
    Nope, I have Tommy Alridge's though. How is it?

    HA!HA! I haven't seen it yet...I was wondering if it was worth the 
    fifty clam shells. How's is Tommy's?
    
           Frizkid
    

    
    It's rock soloing and double bass workout. It's not bad.
    
    I'd pass on Bonham's. He's got a long way to go IMHO.
    
    I want to get Bozio's!

     Cool!   Maybe I'll just rent it or something.  I mean some of his
    Dad's stuff MUSTV'E rubbed off somewhere.  I just can't find it. 8)
    
     Bozio?  NOW YOUR FACKIN' TALKING! I haven't seen it.
    
              Frizkid
    

    -1-2
    
    I had Bozzio's Solo drumming tape. It wasnt really my cup of tea. So
    I returned it. Even though he is an AWESOME drummer and totally 
    unbeleivable on double bass...I just didnt care for the tape.
    
    Bob
    

    Really? What wasn't your cup of tea?
    
                Frizkid
    

    
    Nooo....Alot of it was about structuring ploy rhthym type solo's. Its
    different. Give it s whirl...if you dont like it....return
    it...Although that double bass would be easier to play with a NiCe
    Dw pedal..... :*}
    
    
    Bob

    Friz, ask Skip about that Bozzio instructional vid, he has it.  I think
    he said he enjoyed it.
    
    gh

    Maybe....I'll just borrow it from him.  
            Bob: You kill me man!!! Yea...I know it would be easy but then
    I'd have to sleep on my drumset.
    
                     Frizkid
    

    
    
           Ya, I have it and it is good but the poly rhythm thing doesn't
    do much for me ether. I want double bass from Hell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    
    I got double bass from hell, I just want double bass from the galaxy
    Pi Epsilon 12. 8-)

    
    re: .54
    
    seen weckl's tapes by any chance?
    

    
    Today's Globe review of Bonham opening for ELP:
    
    "The show was opened by a blaringly generic Bonham, led by Jason
    Bonham, son of John Bonham of Led Zeppelin."
    
    One paragraph, terribly flattering.  Hopefully he'll go away now.
    
    S

    OUCH!
    
           friz
    

	The son of the late Led Zeppelin drummer John "Bonzo" Bonham,
	Jason, is honoring his father, who died in 1979, with the release
	this month of a new CD and a series of shows to promote it.

	"In the Name of My Father" is a live-in-the-studio recording of
	ten Zeppelin tunes that will be backed by a series of shows
	called The Zep Set.

	The Zep Set, as done by the Jason Bonham Band, arrives locally
	tomorrow at Sir Morgan's Cove, 89 Green St, Worcester, MA.
	Tel. 508-753-2188
    
    	For directions see note 14.118  ...

    
    
    	They arrived locally last night at Chantilly's in 
    	ManchVegas NH.  =)
    

So, he'll be returning Metal to Worcester?  Hmm, I wonder if that's copyright
infringement.

    Worcester Telegram & Gazette, The full article was published
    Thursday, March 20, 1997, written by Scott McLennan.
    
    Here's some excerpts from the article...
    
    Bonham acknowledges that what he is doing is not politically correct.
    "But we've seen this go from 10 shows, to 20, to 30, to 70", he noted
    during a phone interview from a tour stop in Chicago.
    
    Bonham was first seen pubicly playing drums as a toddler in the
    Zeppelin movie "The Song Remains the Same". He was then invited to
    take his father's role when the surviving members of Led Zeppelin
    reunited in 1988 to celebrate the 40th anniversary of Atlantic Records.
    
    The Jason Bonham Band debuted shortly after that (with the band leader
    making a detour through Zeppelin guitarist Jimmy Page's solo band) and
    landed a radio hit off the album "Disregard for TimeKeeping" in 1990
    with "Wait for You".
    
    Bonham said his classic rock style was buried by the alternative rock
    invasion of the early 90's, but he feels the waters are safe for his
    return. The band will release a second album of original material in
    July for Epic Records.
    
    The Zep Set grew out of a concert segment the Jason Bonham Band had
    used before when it played a medley of Zeppelin classics.
    
    "I had heard too many bad Led Zeppelin tributes. That's what got me
    started on that," he said.
    
    Guitarist Tony Catania takes some liberties in the way he jams on
    songs, not making note for note stabs at what Page did. Singer
    Charles West meanwhile is a ringer for vocalist Robert Plant. His
    work on "In the Evening" and "Since I've Been Loving You" is uncanny
    on the album, which was recorded at Electric Ladyland Studios in front
    of an audience. Bass and keyboard player John Smithson is the sole
    holdover from the original Bonham band lineup.
    
    Profits from "In the Name of My Father" and the Zep Set shows are
    going to charities such as Big Sisters and The John Bonham Memorial
    Motorcycle Camp in Los Angeles. There is also talk of starting a John
    Bonham Memorial Fund to help pay college tuitions.
    
    "That's something my father would do, he was very generous," Bonham
    said. "Besides, it's not my music, it's my dad's. I'm happy to play it,
    but I don't want to make my living off it."