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| 147.2 | Trivia from the trivial | CSC32::G_HOUSE | They call me Squid Head | Wed Jul 13 1988 21:53 | 4 | 
|  |     I saw some listing of the top selling rock albums on MTV last week
    and F&J was number 1.
    
    gh
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| 147.3 |  | PFLOYD::ROTHBERG | Await the Awakening | Thu Jul 14 1988 00:22 | 10 | 
|  | 
                Note  that    they   are  also  playing  tomorrow
                (Thursday) night at  the Channel with Wargasm and
                Fates Warning (yeah)!!!
                
                I think their last album was better (Doomsday for
                the Deceiver), but the newest is still great.
                
                - Rob
                
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| 147.4 | F&J is O.K. | REPAIR::EDWARDS | WARNING-lawnmower on the loose | Thu Jul 14 1988 01:31 | 10 | 
|  |     
    	I must agree with -.1 that Doomsday was better, but this new
    one is O.K. too.  Everybody thought that after F&J lost Jason Newstead
    to Metallica that the band would just hide in a corner and die.
    Not so, this is a great album considering that newstead wrote
    everything else the band's ever done.  Erik A.K.'s vocals are a
    bit painful on the ears sometimes, still a good speed band.
    
    T.T.F.N.
    		MoshDuck.
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| 147.5 | F&J forever | KBOMFG::SCHLOSSBAUER |  | Mon Jul 18 1988 01:12 | 9 | 
|  |                        -< F&J is very O.K. >-
    
    
    I thought too, that the Flots would die after Jason Newstead went
    to Metallica, but 'NO PLACE FOR DISGRACE' is one of the best
    Speed-Metal Album I ever heard. 
    
    Keep Moshing
    
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| 147.6 |  | PFLOYD::ROTHBERG | Await the Awakening | Thu Jul 21 1988 02:37 | 11 | 
|  | 
                Great show  at  the  Channel  the other night.  I
                can't remember another  metal show where I've had
                as much fun and  the band sounded as good (except
                for maybe Manowar).  F&J  has  to  be  one of the
                best  sounding live bands around.   They  sounded
                like  it  was  right off the album.    Definately
                blows  Metallica,    Anthrax  and  Megadeth  away
                soundwise and live 'abilitywise'.
                
                
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| 147.7 | Yet another review for Flotsam & Jetsam | MILVAX::RENEE | Lil' Sister | Wed Sep 14 1988 10:55 | 21 | 
|  |     I think both albums kick butt!! They're excellent if you really
    feel like annoying discotech-people or just feeling like banging
    your head abruptly...
    
    I cut down on the speed I listened to for a while. Got out of touch
    with the speed metal. My buddy intro'd me to the new ballad off
    'No Place for Disgrace', called 'Escape from Within'...AWESOME!
    I love F&J's ballads anyway. I think 'Saturday Nite' is a riot!!
    I can just imagine what EJ would say if he ever heard it!!!!
    
    
    Yeah, they were a good show. My friend got some EXCELLENT pic's
    of the band in action. She got right up on the side of the stage.
    Definetly magazine material! We didn't see that much of them though.
    They were supposed to go on at 11:45 and they went on at 11:30,
    we were in the bar talking to Mikkey Dee, when I realized that they
    were on stage! What a freak!!!
    
    Definetly a good show, though. Anyone else go??
    
    -renee>
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| 147.8 |  | ROSBIF::PHILIPPA | Cum give yer Ant Bunny a kiss | Wed Oct 26 1988 07:02 | 9 | 
|  |     Four tack EP out on Nov 7.
    
    Side 1:	Saturday Night's Alright for Fighting
    
    Side 2:	Hard on You (Live)
    		Misguided Fortune (Live)
    		Dreams of Death (Live)
    
    Pip
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| 147.9 | Can't you see, your ripping away our independence! | CHIPS::PERTAG |  | Fri Oct 13 1989 12:13 | 3 | 
|  |     I can't wait for their next album.  These guys are great!!  I love
    cranking this up wicked LOUD!! Did anyone see these guys last fall at
    Metal Madfest in NH?
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| 147.10 | No one cares but you... | PFLOYD::ROTHBERG | My mother was a witch... | Sun Oct 15 1989 13:59 | 8 | 
|  | 
                They are  definately  overdue  for another album.
                These guys are the gnads!  Probably the best live
                metal band I've seen  (perhaps with the exception
                of Slayer).  Any news  on  a  forthcoming album??
                (Flip??? :') ).
                
                
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| 147.11 |  | ROSBIF::PHILIPPA | Whooooo's she?!? The Welsh TART! | Mon Oct 16 1989 04:41 | 7 | 
|  |     
    Sorry, no news on a F&J album.....
    
    wel, not yet anyway!!!!  BUT it had bettter be SOON!  I love these
    guys!
    
    Flip
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| 147.12 | F&J!!!! | RICKS::MINARDI | bust into your funkiest stroll | Thu Oct 26 1989 22:01 | 13 | 
|  |     Well... thanks to another HMer lending her copy of No Place
    for Disgrace to me... I freakin LOVE this band!!!
    I like every cut, what a cool band! Faves are Dreams of Death,
    Escape from... wait they're all great!
    Love the monsta-guitar sound on Saturday Night's Alright for Fighting
    
    BTW, I thought that F&J had
    a new album out??? There will
    be new copies of it at City Hall Music in Marlboro tomorrow
    afternoon.
    
    /Motorbreath
    
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| 147.13 |  | PFLOYD::ROTHBERG | Um... I'm dyin' over here... | Fri Oct 27 1989 05:23 | 9 | 
|  | 
                That album  is  the  nutz, but so is Doomsday for
                the Deceiver.   New  album?!?!?   I haven't heard
                anything about it.   Flip,  did  you let one slip
                by???  I've been waiting for a new one from these
                guys for ages!!
                
                CCheers, Me
                
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| 147.14 | I'll check it out! | ROSBIF::PHILIPPA | Fuctifino is the answer | Fri Oct 27 1989 05:38 | 7 | 
|  |     
    Ummm, ummmm, well looks like I've missed an IMPORTANT one here.....
    unless Mike is rying to land me in the deep, brown sticky stuff!
    
    8^)
    
    Flip
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| 147.15 |  | ROSBIF::PHILIPPA | Fuctifino is the answer | Fri Oct 27 1989 05:51 | 6 | 
|  |     
    Okay, Brigadier General Ph'tang silly Party, Esquire......I've checked
    and as far as I can see there is NO release date for a new album,
    or any mention of one in the making.
    
    Flip
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| 147.16 | No Place for Disgrace.. | RICKS::MINARDI | bust into your funkiest stroll | Fri Oct 27 1989 11:17 | 6 | 
|  |     HA! I should have known that Jimmy at City Hall Music would be
    incorrect!!!  He didn't even know who Danzig was for cripe's sake!
    "Zandig??? Mark! Do we have Zandig? Oh Danzig?? No... the Misfits?
    Where do you hear of these bands??"
    
    /Motorbreath...anyway, the band is the bags!
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| 147.17 |  | CHIPS::PERTAG |  | Fri Oct 27 1989 11:22 | 4 | 
|  |     
    Mike - I knew you'd like those guys,  Thanks for the info on the new
    album, I think I'll pick up a copy, or you could and I'll just borrow
    yours.  8^) - Kim
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| 147.18 | yah sure Kim!! ;^) | RICKS::MINARDI | bust into your funkiest stroll | Fri Oct 27 1989 11:26 | 5 | 
|  |     I guess I was mistaken about a new album... the guy at the store's
    a pinhead!! Actually, maybe he got confuzed with Nuclear Assault,
    as it all sounds the same to him! ;^)
    
    /Motorbreath...Jim's cool though
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| 147.19 |  | CHIPS::PERTAG |  | Fri Oct 27 1989 11:37 | 2 | 
|  |     
    Mike, thanks for getting me all physed for nothing! (JK) - KIM
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| 147.20 |  | IOSG::PERKINS | She's a sh!tload of trouble! | Thu Nov 09 1989 13:53 | 5 | 
|  |     
    F&J are currently working on their new album at Pyramid Studios in NY -
    it's due for release in early 1990.
    
    Flip
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| 147.21 |  | IOSG::PERKINS | Everybody has an opinion, but then everybody has an asshole! | Fri Jan 12 1990 12:34 | 7 | 
|  |     
    Finishing touching are being made to the new album.  They've apparently
    gone for a more progressive sound this time.
    
    I'll let you know when it'sa due out.
    
    Flip
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| 147.22 |  | CHIPS::PERTAG |  | Mon Jan 15 1990 08:59 | 3 | 
|  |     
    
    PSYCHED!!!  Can't wait for this album!  - Kim
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| 147.23 | hey C.L. | BINKLY::MINARDI | Organic Anti-Beatbox Band | Mon Jan 15 1990 21:02 | 15 | 
|  |     Kim I can't believe you spelled psyched right!  8^)
    
    I love the album No Place For Disgrace!!! Someone was supposed
    to make me a copy...ahem.
    If they go more progressive ala where Testament has followed 
    Metallica, then great! I've been into that a bit more lately,
    as long as they don't sound like Metallica. Let's just hope that
    'less balls' doesn't come along with 'more progressive.'
	 know what I mean?
    
    
    /Motorbreath...who sees a resurgence in progressiveness...as it's
    died out lately, 'cept for Rush of course.
    
    p.s. PHYSED!@!!  ha ha
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| 147.24 |  | CHIPS::PERTAG |  | Tue Jan 16 1990 09:00 | 2 | 
|  |     
    I'm learning see..... PSYCHED!!! - Kim
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| 147.25 |  | IOSG::PERKINS | It's OK, I've got my elephant outside! | Tue Jan 16 1990 09:13 | 7 | 
|  |     
    Cool it Kim, you don't want to over do your new found spelling
    expertise!
    
    8^)
    
    Flip
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| 147.26 |  | CHIPS::PERTAG |  | Tue Jan 16 1990 11:38 | 2 | 
|  |     
    All right I'll chill for a while. - Kim
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| 147.27 |  | YODA::MCCARRON | Function... not fashion. | Wed Apr 11 1990 16:04 | 8 | 
|  |     
    
    	Hoid that F&J's new release is supposed to be out April 17th.
    FWIW this info is 2nd hand.
    
    
    
    Paul
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| 147.28 |  | CHIPS::PERTAG |  | Thu Apr 12 1990 12:03 | 4 | 
|  |     
    Great!!!  Hope your sources are right.  I've been waiting for this one. 
    
            8^) - Kim
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| 147.29 |  | PFLOYD::ROTHBERG | The Grand Poobah | Fri Apr 13 1990 04:24 | 4 | 
|  | 
                Me too!!!
                
                
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| 147.30 |  | CHIPS::PERTAG |  | Mon May 07 1990 09:38 | 12 | 
|  |     
    
    Well, I finally picked thier new one up.  I don't know how long it's
    been out but, it's cal "When The Storm Comes Down"  I just bought it
    yesterday so, I've only listened to one side.  So far it's no "No Place
    for Disgrace" but, I still have side two to listen to and I want to
    give a few more plays before I make a definate opinion on this one.  If
    anyone in this area wants to pick it up, I got it at Good Vibrations in
    Natick.  Will try to give a review of the ablum in the next couple
    days.
    
                    - Kim
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| 147.31 |  | YODA::MCCARRON | Yo Money, it's GOTTA be the shoes! | Mon May 07 1990 09:47 | 12 | 
|  |     
    
    Re: Kim
    
    	I was looking for it last week so it probably just came out. 
    Glad I still have some Newbury Comics coupons.
    
        Thanks for the info...
    
    
    
    Paul 
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| 147.32 |  | CHIPS::PERTAG |  | Wed May 16 1990 13:31 | 6 | 
|  |     
    
     I think their new ablum is a flop!  I'm really disappointed, I was
    really looking forward to this ablum.  The vocals kill this whole
    album, not one song sticks out.  I don't recommend this album at all. 
    But, if anyone is going to pick it up I'll sell it real cheap. - Kim
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| 147.34 |  | BINKLY::MINARDI | Truth and Soul | Wed May 16 1990 16:00 | 15 | 
|  |     	Nah, the fact is that the band has seemed to go the 
    "progressive/polished" Metallica way of producing and writing, and
    they're just not good at it. They are much more successful with
    a moshier dirtier sound. The vocals are too "sweet" as if he's 
    trying to be a Geoff Tate or Bruce Dickinson, and he just doesn't
    have it, also the vocals don't go well with the music. 
    The lyrics are weak, and I was bothered by the use of "f*ck" 
    for no apparent reason: it didn't go along with the songs because
    there was no anger in the songs, so it sounds infantile and
    embarassing when he said it.
    	Also, the whole album is VANILLA!!! There isn't ONE song with
    any noticeable guitar or drum part, the whole album just blends
    into one monotonous mish-mash of BLAH.
    
    /Motorbreath...My opinion
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| 147.35 |  | PFLOYD::ROTHBERG | Turn around&walk the razors edge... | Fri May 18 1990 01:36 | 12 | 
|  | 
                DFTD was  great!!    I've been meaning to pick up
                this new one,  but  haven't  gotten  around to it
                yet.  Maybe I'll wait for someone else to grab it
                and listen to theirs.   I'd buy yours, Kim, but I
                recall, you don't own a CD  player,  and  I  hate
                tapes... :')
                
                -  Rob who's going DAT if recordable  CD's  don't
                show up soon -
                
                
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| 147.36 |  | MILKWY::SLABOUNTY | Of course you can touch this. | Mon Nov 19 1990 13:50 | 10 | 
|  |     
    	I just got "No Place for Disgrace" from the CD club, but I
    	got it on tape.  [Yuck!!]
    
    	I haven't heard it in awhile, but the other night I listened
    	to "Saturday ..." and "Hard On You".  As Motorbreath mention-
    	ed in "What's Hot ...", the lead singer's got a GREAT voice.
    
    							GTI
    
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| 147.37 | what happened? | BINKLY::MINARDI | Juice Crew... Dept. of Energy! | Mon Nov 19 1990 15:46 | 4 | 
|  |     That album (even on my cruddy tape) is excellent!!!!
    One of my all-time faves!
    
    /Motorbreath...then they went down the shi**er!!!
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| 147.38 |  | YODA::MCCARRON | I seen a whole lotta dat! | Mon Nov 19 1990 16:18 | 14 | 
|  |     
    
    	Re: -< what happened? >-
    
    	Wonder if it's cuz Alex Perialas had a hand in producing it?
    He worked with Anthrax on SOE (which I thought was marginal).
    Anyone know who else he's worked with?
    
    	Whatever... someone decided to change something and it didn't
    work!  Like /Mike said before, it's as if they were trying to be the
    Queensryche of thrash.
    
    
    Paul
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| 147.39 |  | DUCK::PERKINSP | One sheet both sides | Tue Feb 05 1991 07:44 | 5 | 
|  |     
    Bassist Troy Gregory has left F&J and is working on a funk-metal solo
    project.
    
    Flip
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| 147.40 |  | BINKLY::MINARDI | It's the NEW style! | Tue Feb 05 1991 09:55 | 5 | 
|  |     re.39
    No doubt following the latest rage.
    
    I think RHCP's sudden popularity has influenced a lot of bands,
    IMHO. (I think it's pretty obvious)
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| 147.41 |  | DUCK::PERKINSP | One sheet both sides | Tue Feb 05 1991 09:57 | 5 | 
|  |     
    ...the RHCP's sudden popularity caused through the popularity of FNM
    which has caused this latest fad....
    
    Flip
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| 147.42 |  | BINKLY::MINARDI | It's the NEW style! | Tue Feb 05 1991 09:58 | 3 | 
|  |     RHCP's influence is what I meant to emphasize.
    
    8^P
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| 147.43 | oh yeah...new label too! | MRVAX::CESCOBAR | Chris The EscoBarbarian | Wed Oct 30 1991 09:45 | 7 | 
|  |     
    New album should be out before the end of the year. New bassist and I
    think a new guitarist (could be wrong). From what I've heard more
    progressive music.
    
    
    Chris
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| 147.44 |  | PROXY::MCCARRON | Itain'twhereyafrom,itzwhereyaat! | Wed Oct 30 1991 10:14 | 10 | 
|  |     
    	
    	Yeah, their old bass player (the guy who replaced Jason) is now 
    in Prong.
    
    	More progressive?  Isn't that what "When the Storm Comes Down"
    was supposed to be... but failed miserably!!
    
    
    Paul
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| 147.45 | they get another chance... | GAMGEE::ROBR | Sailing the seas of cheeze... | Wed Oct 30 1991 13:13 | 5 | 
|  |     
    
    New F&J!!  Yes!  As Paul says, hopefully better than the last :').
    
    
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| 147.46 |  | MRVAX::CESCOBAR | Never you hear the discouraging lies | Wed Oct 30 1991 13:19 | 6 | 
|  |     
    Am I the only one that liked the last album????
    
    
    
    Chris
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| 147.47 |  | KETJE::VLASIU |  | Thu Oct 31 1991 03:39 | 5 | 
|  | I disliked so much the last album that I was ready to get rid of the previous
one also. After re-listening the previous (NPFD) I decided to keep it because
it's however very fine. I wish they go back to NPFD time.
Sorin
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| 147.48 |  | CSC32::J_HERNANDEZ | ATisketATasketAcondomOrACasket | Thu Oct 31 1991 10:10 | 2 | 
|  |     Flotsam and Jetsam was Ursula's pet eels.
    
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| 147.50 |  | CONTRA::BEL_KWINITH | We have no need for ancient ways | Mon Oct 26 1992 13:42 | 6 | 
|  |     
    not really.  escobar and i didnt even know the new album was out until
    he stumbled across it at a store.  boy, they promoted this one big
    time....
    
    
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| 147.51 | On that downhill train | GOES11::G_HOUSE | Who do you want to be today? | Mon Oct 26 1992 13:47 | 4 | 
|  |     F&J are about dead, IMHO.  They had some cool early stuff, then some
    lamer stuff and now nobody even knows when they put out a new album...
    
    gh
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| 147.53 |  | BUSY::ESCOBAR | Are You Willing? | Mon Oct 26 1992 14:12 | 5 | 
|  |     
    The new song is getting airplay on WAAF. I do think they've got a
    chance. Especially since Eric A.K. toned down the wails.
    
    
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| 147.54 | Their old bass player was lame! 8) | COMET::FRISBYA | I'm a product of your guilt | Mon Oct 26 1992 14:24 | 5 | 
|  |     They do a ROOLIN" version of "Saturday Night's Allright for
    Fighting"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
              Friz
    
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| 147.55 |  | BUSY::ESCOBAR | Are You Willing? | Mon Oct 26 1992 14:25 | 8 | 
|  |     
    They've had MANY bass players, if you are refering to their first
    bassist and founding member, well then....
    
    yer a fraggin' lunatic.
    
    ;')
    
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| 147.58 |  | CONTRA::BEL_KWINITH | We have no need for ancient ways | Mon Oct 26 1992 14:47 | 3 | 
|  |     
    f&j with airplay??? get out!
    
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| 147.59 |  | BUSY::ESCOBAR | Are You Willing? | Mon Oct 26 1992 14:51 | 5 | 
|  |     
    Yup. I heard the song twice (I think it was Never Fade Away)
    and I think it's champs of rock wars.
    
    
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| 147.60 | BLEK! | GOES11::G_HOUSE | Who do you want to be today? | Mon Oct 26 1992 16:11 | 3 | 
|  |     re: Their cover of "Saturday Night's Alright..."
    
    PEEEEEEEEE-EWWWWWWWWWW!!!!
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| 147.61 | oops, agree | CONTRA::BEL_KWINITH | We have no need for ancient ways | Mon Oct 26 1992 16:47 | 5 | 
|  |     
    i agre, their cover of this song blows.  one of my fave covers is cjss'
    cover of communication breakdown.
    
    
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| 147.62 | just thought I'd drop in to mention that! | METALX::SWANSON | Stardog Champion | Tue Oct 27 1992 09:35 | 6 | 
|  |  >   i agre, their cover of this song blows.  one of my fave covers is cjss'
 >   cover of communication breakdown.
    
    Hey, I have that album on tape somehwere!  It is a roolin cover!
    
    
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| 147.63 |  | 7892::ESCOBAR | Wherever I May Roam | Wed Feb 03 1993 11:25 | 5 | 
|  |     
    Wading Through The Darkness is getting massive airplay. Heard it 3
    times in an 8 our period on AAF last week.
    
    
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| 147.64 |  | KDX200::COOPER | Revolution calling! | Tue Aug 30 1994 14:41 | 4 | 
|  |     This bands drummer is LAME??  Was it a machine or WHAT?  Everything
    he did sounds like it came out of my R5's 'canned' patterns...
    
    I love the album Cuatro tho...  Especially "Double Zero".
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| 147.65 | Flotzsam jamz! | BSS::TROLINDER |  | Thu Feb 22 1996 15:37 | 2 | 
|  |     Hello Hello any Flotzsam fans still out there?
    
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