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Note 129.55                                                             55 of 62
CSC32::G_HOUSE "Greg House - CSC/CS"                 13 lines   1-JUL-1988 15:38
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    RE: 4.33  Jerry's goin' to see DLR/Poison
    
    Hey Jerry, 
    
    Don't groan too much about seeing that one!  I saw them when they were
    in Denver a couple of months back.  You probably won't be impressed
    with Poison (you've no doubt read what I thot...), but Steve Vai will
    save the show for ya.  The guy is a total monster.  In concert, he
    plays as well or better than on the albums, and moves around a lot too.
    I was totally amazed!  Be sure to take some binocs & watch his hands,
    it'll scare ya.
    
    gh 

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Note 129.56                                                             56 of 62
RAVEN1::JERRYWHITE "Rebel without a pause ..."        5 lines   5-JUL-1988 06:17
                        -< Nuthin' But A Good Time... >-
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    Yeah, Vai impresses me on vinyl so it should be a good show despite
    what's his name.  I might even learn a few new tricks 'n licks !
    
    				Mr Scary II
    

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Note 129.57                                                             57 of 62
CSC32::G_HOUSE "Greg House - CSC/CS"                  4 lines   5-JUL-1988 11:31
                       -< ...or is that just "nuthin'" >-
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    Hey, what's his name doesn't bother me, I have a good sense of
    humor...;-).  Vai is awesome.
    
    gh
    

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Note 129.58                                                             58 of 62
RAVEN1::JERRYWHITE "Rebel without a pause ..."        7 lines   6-JUL-1988 06:43
                        -< Somebody give me a shot !!! >-
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    Yo Greg !
    	Did what's his name cover any old VanHalen when you saw him,
    or was it all new ?  
    
    				Mr Scary II
    

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Note 129.59                                                             59 of 62
TIGER::SLABOUNTY "A Momentary Lapse of Reason"       12 lines   6-JUL-1988 08:04
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        He did:
    
               Panama
               Hot for Teacher
               Ain't Talkin' 'Bout Love
               Jump(?)
    
        I believe he did 6 VH songs in all, but I'm drawing a blank.
    
                                                       Shawn GTI

    DLR and Poison are coming to Greenville Memorial Auditorium (Madison
    Square Garden of the South, seating capacity, about 7K I think)
    so I'll give a complete, impartial revue of the self-centered,
    egotistical, 1 man bland (no, I spelled it right ...).
    
    
    				Mr Scary II

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Note 129.60                                                             60 of 62
CSC32::G_HOUSE "Greg House - CSC/CS"                 18 lines   6-JUL-1988 09:28
                                -< Yeaaaaaaah! >-
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    re: .58
    
    Yeah, he did several.  It was pretty interesting...Vai plays Van
    Halen a *LOT* better than Hagar sings DLR.  Some of them he played
    exactly like EVH (on record) and some he embellished a bit.  It
    didn't make it sound hokey or anything, everything was very tasteful
    and true to the original.
    
    The rest of the material was from "Skyscraper" or that first DLR
    solo.  There was only ONE song from "Eat 'em and Smile" (Yankee
    Rose).  That rather disappointed me, as I liked that album the best.
    
    re: .59  Sounds like the same set (I saw it in Denver).  I too am
    at a loss for others, although I do think there might have been
    at least one more.
    
    glh

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Note 129.62                                                             62 of 62
YODA::COOK "Engineer at Large"                        8 lines   6-JUL-1988 10:50
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    I don't know how you guys could forget this one,
    
    DLR (vai) also did "I'm on Fire"
    
    KILLER tune.
    
    /prc

    	Hummely, bibbley,zimmely,bummely, hummely, bibbly, zibbly, bop...
    
    Tell all y'all what. I think DLR is one of the best showmen around.
    I've seen him six times, 4 with Van Halen and while he's rude and
    crude, he's an allright dude. I agree with whoever said that he
    sounds more like Vh than Vh does when he plays old stuff. I only
    wish I'd have gotten into that origional conversation.
    
    the devil dog sez "DLR on his own is like having your favorite player
    on your favorite team get traded to New York"

    Jerry,  Don't forget your earplugs for Poison.  They were WAY too
    loud for the place I saw um, and the mix was really bad, so it was
    both muddy and painful.  DLRs band was actually louder, but the
    mix was clean, so it didn't hurt.
    
    gh

    
    David Lee Roth is great!! gonna see him at Donnington this year
    so I'll let ya know how he does.
         
    -Tony

    David Lee Roth - Greenville Memorial Auditorium, 07/19/88
    
    VERY good show.  He covered "Panama", "Hot For Teacher", "Ain't
    Talkin' 'Bout Love", "Hot For Teacher", "Jump", and "You Really
    Got Me" from his previous musical entanglement.  Vai had no problems
    duplicating the tapmaster's licks along with throwing a few of his
    own to boot.  The new bass player is nowhere close to Billy Shehan but
    he carried his weight.  They did a timbale percussion thing with
    ALL band members and some of the road crew out in front of the drum
    riser.  DLR had a boxing ring up over the sound board where he sang
    Panama and he had the surf board bring him from there to the stage
    while he tried to sing California Girls.  His mic wouldn't work,
    the sound tech gave him another when he got to the stage, it didn't
    work, he got another and proudly announced to the crowd that he
    forgot the f****** words.  He an entertainer in every sense of the
    word.
         
    Now for the REAL show - Steve Vai.  I was hypnotised.  Watched him
    for an hour and a half with the binoc's, that boy is slick !  His
    solo's were tasteful and flashy, perfect mix too.  But then again,
    after hearing C.C.'s lame attempt at guitar school (Romperroom at
    best ..) Vai HAD to be good.  I swear, he did this "talking" thing
    using his wah-wah aong with Dave and I could almost pick out the
    words letter for letter.  Do you gather I liked Steve Vai ?  My
    son was asking me during Hot For Teacher who was better, Vai or
    Eddie.  I acted like I couldn't hear him.  Not really, it's a matter
    of taste but Steve is awesome, EVERYONE, especially the string shakers
    out there should go see HIM.  They did 2 encores and then it was
    lights up, drunks out, and where the hell is my car ???
    
    
    				Mr Scary II

    
    
    	I heard the other guitarist for DLR is Matt Bissonette, Greg's
    	brother.  Any truth to the rumor??
    
    	I also enjoyed Vai...but for different reasons.  Needless to
    	say, my BOYFRIEND was "upset"...
    
	DLR is in the boxing ring a little ways behind us (maybe 4
    	rows), and Vai is on stage in front of us (maybe 15 rows)
    	My eyes were focused on VAI!!!!!!!
    
    	(^;
    
    	/tig
    

    Dave didn't have but 1 stringsmith last night, Mr. Vai and I'm sure
    there were some young ladies in the crowd that had a "restless"
    night.  
    
    
    				Mr Scary II

       Yep... Judging by the proliferation of stage-side undergarments,
       I would say Kim, that you are not alone in you admiration of Mr.
       Vai, (or in Mr. Roth, for that matter).  Vai is intense !
       
       jc

    re: Jerry - I toll ya!  Vai is tops!
    
    re: Kim - Matt is the new bass player.  He 'replaced' Billy Sheehan.
    He is Greg's brother.  I thought he played well, but absolutely
    nothing flashy.  Perhaps that's why they did almost none of the
    killer stuff from 'Eat em and Smile'...
    
    gh

    
    
    
    	That's what my friend said, but I was just double checking.
    	Vai has got alot going for him.  He's cute AND he can play!!!
    
    	Yeehaw!!!
  
    	/tig
    
    

    
    Vai beats VH IMO!

    Yo Buck !
    
    	Your opinion has been noted and placed along side my collection
    of deleted notes !!!  It's in good company !!
    
    
    
    				Mr Scary II

    
        In case you didn't know, Steve did the guitar work for the
        conclusion of 'Crossroads' (he wrote both parts).  This was
        the movie with Ralph Macchio as a blues guitarist.
    
        And I wish DLR had done 'Tobacco Road' when I saw him.
    
                                                       Shawn GTI
    

    Yeah, during one of Via's solo's last night he was demonstrating
    that peice from Crossroads, and this time he hit the high note and
    the devil didn't get his soul !!!
    
    
    				Mr Scary II

    
    FYI, that piece is largly built off of the 5th violin caprice from
    Niccolo Paganini.
    
   

    Also last night, when Dave and co. did "Jump", Vai played harmony
    along with the synth solo before the last chorus.  T'was quite
    impressive.  They did 2 instumentals last night while Dave was getting
    in the cieling for his repelling act, and while he was making his
    way to the boxing ring - they were unreal !
    
    					Mr Scary II

       RE: .18  - Buck, Bingo !!! You said it all.  As Jerry noted, Vai did
       everything that Eddie does, plus some of his own stuff.

       IMO, Vai did Eddies trix live, better than Eddie did them in the
       studio.  Vai makes Eddie look like a slob...sorry... They both have
       their good points though... 
       
       I don't think either of them come close to Skeotch !
       
       jc
       

    
    >      I don't think either of them come close to Skeotch !
 
    The tongue must be firmly implanted in cheek here folks!

    
    
    I wish Steve Vai would leave David Lee Ego.  He has so much going
    for himself as a songwriter, and of course as a guitarist.  The
    interviews I've read that he's done in GTR Player make him come
    across as a really cool dude who's easy to get along with, and very
    serious about his music.  Every interview I've read/heard with Roth
    makes him come across as a self centered *uckhead who thinks he's
    got it all figured out.  And his actual singing, non-screaming voice
    is HORRIBLE.  Steve should realize he has a huge name now, and if
    he leaves, he will attract a super vocalist and band to himself.
    
    
    							Bruce

    Re: .27...
    	Ever stop to consider that Mr. Vai may ENJOY playing with
    	DLR???  I'm not sayin' I know that to be true, but Steve
    	Vai may have a different opinion of Dave Roth than you.
    	Then again, maybe he's got some kind of long term plan...??
    	Just the same, I don't think Vai would be doing what he's
    	doing if he didn't WANT to.
    
    	joe (hey, it's just my $.02)

    re.27,.28
     I seen a recent interview with Steve and he said that
    he thinks DLR is one of the best entertainers in the
    bisness and enjoys playing with him, so it looks like
    they'll stay togther for awile,
    
    Tony
    
    P.S. I saw this interview on MTV.
    

    re: .28
    
    I agree with Joe!  Vai is a pretty big hero of mine and I've read
    a lotta interviews with him.  He is definately the type that won't
    do what he doesn't like!  If he didn't like playing with Diamond
    Dave, I don't think he would.  It's not like there's noplace else
    for him to go!  He says that he regularly *turns down* offers to
    play for others in the studio because he wants to keep an image
    as a team player and play in a band environment.  Face it, he's
    probably one of the players in highest demand right now.  He can
    do anything he wants (and write his own paycheck to do it)!
    
    gh

    
    	To touch on a Michael Angelo note elsewhere...
    
    	A 'Guitar FTPM' interview with Vai touched on his heart 
    guitar, and about his double-handed playing. He was embarrassed
    about all the attention he was getting, and gave all the credit
    for this technique to Mr. Angelo.
    	Vai is, IMO, one of the most honest, sincere and talented
    folks in rock. I don't believe the man HAS an ego (unlike his
    partner, David ME Roth). I can't categorize him as HM, either...
    the stuff he's done in the studio for others had varied extremely.
    	Thought i'd stick this here, instead of shifting the subject
    elsewhere.
    
    							Les
    

    For those interested, Steve Vai has a new column concentrating on
    individualizing your playing, starting in the current issue of Guitar
    Player. 
    
    I read the first installment yesterday and it looks to be promising. In
    addition to being an excellent musician, Steve is a good writer. I'm
    looking forward to reading the rest of the series! 
            
    Vai is definately one of my favorite guitar players.
    
    gh

    Stick him on my fav list also ... when I saw DLR I sat on the Vai
    side and watched the guitar show for almost 2 hours.  He doesn't
    seem to have the ego like most stringsmiths in the spotlight.  He
    lets his music do the talking and I respect that !
    
    
    
    				Scary

    Putting Daves ego aside and ignoring videos and everything...this
    guy and his various bands have put out some excellent music.  I
    was just listening to Skyscraper while driving around town (in my
    car that just got tuned up last week and is running like a top,
    with the windows down, the sunroof open, my shirt off and driving
    like an absolute idiot).  
    
    I hadn't listened to it in a long time and it really got me wired!
    This is great, very few guitar player can run a chill up my spine,
    Steve Vai is one.
    
    gh

    agreed.....

    I think some of his vids are pretty cool. 

    I went one Halloween as DLR as he was dressed in his Yankee Rose
    video.  You know the way he appears on the cover on Eat 'em and
    Smile.  My SO (at the time) had tiger stripped spandex, a leather
    halter top, boots and a whip.  All I had on was a grass skirt and
    a dog collar which she had the chain too.....It was the ballz! 
    I acted the part and scared the shit out of half the girls in the
    Dorm.  The best part was the next day, overhearing conversations
    about a crazy man who was dressed like DLR.    I guess I had so
    much make up on no one recognized me.....It was teh best halloween
    yet...
    

    
    In case your haven't heard yet...
    
    Steve Vai has left DLR to join
    
    
    WHITESNAKE!!!   Yup, and Steve will be joined on guitar duties by
                    Brad Gillis of Nightranger!
    

    Wow!!!
    
    Perhaps I will go to Donington ROck this year!
    
    Flip

    
    
    	Ok...so who's leaving Whitesnake?
    

    But then again, now Steve Vai won't be bale to perform as much as
    he did with DLR - he'll just be another part of a band!
    
    That's sad...he's was an awesome showman at last year's festival!
    
    Flip

    Well, it figures that Vandenberg and Campbell are leaving.....

    Viv Campbell had left a long time ago...back to doin his Triolgy fusion
    project.  I guess ole DC got sick of Adrian real quick after that?!?!
    
     

    NOOOOOOOO!  NO Steve!  NO!!!
    
    How could he DO this to us (loyal fans)?
    
    gh

    Who is DLR gonna get for a replacement....EVH? 
    
    
    naw that's impossible....

    The Sentinel

                                             
    YYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!          
                                             
    Great news!
    
    I really like Vai and I really like Whitesnake - now I got two of
    my favs in one!!                         
                                             
    I wonder if Vai will dye his hair blonde for DC ?? ;^) 
    
    Campbell was brilliant, but Vandenberg sucks IMO anyway - I guess 
    Coverdale is gonna be putting down some serious stuff after all.
                                                                    
    Hey - why is it Coverdale takes Ozzys old throwaways ?? (ie Rudy
    Sarzo, Tommy Aldridge and now Brad Gillis).  No offense to these
    guys, Sarzo and Aldridge are one of the best in their field, but
    is it possible that in a couple years time we may see Zakk Wylde
    banging his head with Coverdale ??
                          
    Thought for the day...

    NOOOOO!  Please not Zak Wylde!  
    
    Gag!
    
    I'd rather see Jake E Lee in there!
    
    Flip
    

    
    Jake E Lee = EGO

    
    	Is this %$#@ or what?
    
    	Doesn't sound right.
    
    				Les
    

    
    Brad Gillis?
    
    You've got to be kidding.
    
    Isn't that counterproductive to Steve Vai?
    
    For everything cool he comes up with, there'll be Brad Gillis right
    there to mess it up.
    
    IMO, anyway.
    
    Dilly

    
    
    
    	Steve Vai!!!!  What a fox!!  I like Whitesnake, too.
    	This could be veryyyyy interesting....
    
    	But he had better NOT die his hair blond!!  YUCK!
               
    	Tigg~~  who happens to think Vai is AWESOME!
        

    
        Brad Gillis is a VERY good guitarist ... listen to some of
        the stuff off of "Dawn Patrol" and "Midnight Madness" and
        you'll hear him crankin'.
    
                                                       GTI
    

    
    	I agree...Brad can hold his own. He's never had an outlet to
    just let it rip loose ('cept for the Oz).
    	I can accept this...but still not Vai. Last I heard, the band
    (w/Vandenberg) was in the studio. Come on, would Coverdale record
    with a guitarist, then drop him for the tour?
    
    	8^)
    
    						Les
    

    I summize that Gillis was in there cuz Sarzo and Aldridge dug playing
    with him in Ozzy, and that maybe Vai thought he had some cool whammy
    bar licks....or that his style would be a nice complement to his.
    
    we'll see
    
    Buck 

        	
    >I can accept this...but still not Vai. Last I heard, the band
    >(w/Vandenberg) was in the studio. Come on, would Coverdale record
    >with a guitarist, then drop him for the tour?

    You didn't see John Sykes on the Whitesnake tour, did ya??
    
    David Coverdale changes lineups line he changes his clothes!  I believe
    it.  I believe he would even change the lineup MID ALBUM. I wouldn't
    put it past him.  I mean, who auditions over 10,000 drummers to do an
    album???  Answer-David Coverdale. 

    
    	RE: last message.
    
    	Guess ya didn't see the smiley face...
    
    						Les
    

    
    Awww!!!                    
                             
    Buck you beat me to it !!  (re:John Sikes being dumped b4 tour).
                             
    I guess I'm too slow huh?

    Thanks for entering that, Kim.
    
    I really enjoy reading interviews with Vai.  In every one I've read, he
    speaks intelligently.  I'd love to get to talk with him sometime, he
    strikes me as a very interesting person as well as being an amazing
    musician.
    
    gh

I heard that Rocket Rochette (or something like that - I forget the exact 
spelling) is gonna be the new 6-stringer in DLR's band. He has played with 
Steppenwolf for the past 7 years.....

cat

	David Lee Roth WILL be working with guitarist Jason Becker 
	(ex-cacophony) on his next studio album.  They should go in to 
	the studio shortly.  Rumours are still going around that DLR 
	will re-join Van Halen.
    
    	Flip

    Hmmm... That should be interesting.
    
    You gotta hand it to DLR, he always seems to work with top notch guitar
    players.
    
    gh

    Jason will have his hands full copying Vai's lix in concert.  Old
    VH will be no problem - hell everybody does that these days !
    
    				Scary

    I think if Jason just sits down with the Vai stuff he should have no
    problem.  That is one amazing guitar player (and what were YOU doing at
    age 18?)!!!
    
    Becker Rocks!

    What was I doing at 18 ?
                           
    *I* was playing guitar dude.....
    
    Okay, so it was only a year ago  8*)

    BUT, were you playing the stuff Becker is?
    
    gh  (who wishes he'd been playing that at 18...ok, who hopes that he
         can someday play that, and knows it's not real likely)

    
  >>  BUT, were you playing the stuff Becker is?
      
    Don't be s'silly !! 8^)

    
    	Reprinted without permission from Metal Edge..
    
    	...Looks like Jason Becker of Cacophony is David Lee
    	Roth's new guitarist...
    
    
    	Tigga~~~

    -1
    
    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooOOOO!!!!!
    
    

    I guess this makes 3 times DLR's been upstaged by a guitar player!
                                                                     
    
    
    	Hang it up Dave ... VanHalen had their day in the sun, so did
    you.  Go sell real estate ....
    
    
    				Scary

    
    	Supposedly, DLR is up in Toronto (?)...Canada somewhere,
    	anyway, starting to record his new album...
    
    	tigga~~~~

    DLR and his band are holed upin some seedy hotel - DLR wanted to
    capture the old dirty sound for his new album and says this cannot
    be done when you are living in luxury.  The band kicked up alot
    of fuss when they first heard of the idea, but apparently they are
    producig alot of good material.   
    
    Flip

    
    DLR will release his latest album on NEw YEar's Eve.  He has been
    thinking about adding another guitarist to the band's line up AND
    apparently Steve Vai contacted him to offer his help...but the message
    never reached DLR!
    
    FLip

    HOT DOG AND A SHAKE!!!!
    
    
    I love the Vai solo in that song
    
    /M

    
    Dave Lee Roth has had a massive mural of a semi naked woman painted
    on a wall in Vancouver.  DLR says, "future archaeologists will one
    day know that Vancouver was a swinging city in the 90's"
    
    Flip

    I've been hearing a new Diamond Dave song on the radio the last few
    days.  It's the title track for his new album and sounds pretty good. 
    It reminds me a *lot* of the Eat 'Em And Smile vintage material,
    especially in the song feel and guitar playing.  I'd hoped his new
    guitar player (Jason Becker?) would have had a more original sound.
    
    gh

    Me and BBST(tm) was talking about dat. He sounds a lot like Vai.

    
    	It's called "A Little Ain't Enough", or something similar.
    
    	Jason Becker is from the band Cacophany.
    
    							GTI
    

    Jason Becker is not in the band,its 2 other guys who names have eluded
    me just now *BUT* I've got my tickets so who cares.
    
    
    
                                       STAYNZ

    Yeah, seems like either Becker was on the album, and is not touring, or
    vice versa ... ?
    
    Scary (who says whoeverthehell it is *does* sound a lot like Vai)

    All I know is it don't sound like Jason "Mr._Paganini_II" Becker!

    
    
    	I was kind of disappointed with the whole thing.  Not
    	that I'm a huge DLR fan to begin with, but... the song
    	sounded the same as most of his older stuff (Yankee 
    	Rose, etc.)
    
    	And the video looks the same as any other of his videos,
    	especially "California Girls..."
    
    	Bum-ba-dee-da, I guess. (8
    
    	tigga~~~

    I'll give the video 3 thumbs up !  The stairmaster sequence is pretty
    cool .....   8^]
    
     
    Scary 

    >>	And the video looks the same as any other of his videos,
    >>	especially "California Girls..."
    
    
    What are u nuts? Dat is da GOOD thing about his new video!!
    

    
    
    	RE: That's the good thing about his new video
    
    	Hey.. I've got nothing against the "California Girls"
    	video.  I think it's pretty cool (despite the big
    	boobs all over the place!) (;
    
    	But I was hoping he'd have something a bit more original
    	for this one.  Everyone in here is always whimpering
    	and complaining about nobody having originality.  Well,
    	IMHO, I think DLR lacked it in this video...
    
    	sowwy... 
    	
    tigga~~

    A first class gigalo like DLR can't have anything but big boobs
    everywhere!

    
    I think big melons are extremely original. But...what is it that makes 
    Dave look so different this time?.....
    
    
    
                                    DEEBS

    DLR is lookin pretty old these days!

    
    Tonight at 10:00 on WBCN,they're playing baldheadshinyasaDiamond 
    Dave's album in its entirety, and he'll also be talking about
    the new album, answering questions, etc.
    
    /Mike..who sez that Dave's still cool, and I think he kinda addresses
    the fact that he's getting/looking older with his new video, which
    shows him on his final tour as an old, fat, wrinkled dude with
    the same energy and goofiness.
    
    

    
    
    Today at 3:20 pm, Dave will be Mark Parento's in studio guest at BCN.
    
    jeff

     So, did anybody hear the album in its entirety and what did you think
    of it?
    				The KER
    

    The more I hear the new song the more I like it....the video is immense
    true it is unoriginal(sp)but if Dave did a vid without any females it
    would be loosing a trademark.I mean look at the bit with wall o'
    Marshalls and the girls lined up along the front...8)
    
    
    
    
    .....and yep,he does look a lot older.
    
                                           STAYNZ

    I didn't hear all of it, but I heard about four songs (and accompanying
    interview with Diamond Dave) and they don't all have that "Yankee Rose"
    kind of sound like the title track.  Like Dave's other albumes, I
    thought it sounded kind of interesting with some variety.  I'm looking
    forward to hearing the album, it's due out this week, right?
    
    gh

    I heard on de radio this weekend that Jasob Becker was NOT on the
    record and will not be on da tour!!!
    
    Said it was some dude (forget his name) who used to play with
    studio people.  
    
    ???

>    I heard on de radio this weekend that Jasob Becker was NOT on the
>    record and will not be on da tour!!!
    
    According to DLR himself, Jason Becker and another guy (some old guy he
    said was into the blues) did all the guitars on the record, but neither
    will be touring with him.
    
    gh

Article 394 of clari.news.music:
From: [email protected] (United Press International)
Newsgroups: clari.news.music,clari.news.interest.people
Subject: On The Record
Date: 25 Jan 91 00:02:33 GMT
Priority: advance

UPI Arts & Entertainment -- Music

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David Lee Roth, ``A Little Ain't Enough'' (Warner Bros.)
	David Lee Roth titled his new album ``A Little Ain't Enough'' but 
``Too Much Ain't Enough'' would have been fitting, too. This recording
is more of the very same rowdy look-at-me brand of rock 'n' roll that
Roth has been a part of since his days as the spandex-clad front man for
Van Halen.
	Big Rock is what Diamond Dave calls it and it's plenty large
throughout ``A Little Ain't Enough.'' Of the 12 cuts, only three of them
go less than 110 mph. Jason Becker fills the Eddie Van Halen role by
efficiently providing the big, bad guitar sound to compliment Roth's
screaming vocals.
	The lyrics aren't about anything specific -- just hell-raising and hot
women in general. You get a picture of Roth winking as he sings a line
like ``I'll pretend I'm G.I. Joe and you be Barbie doll'' on ``Baby's on
Fire.'' Roth's don't-take-this-too-seriously sense of humor flares
brightest on ``It's Showtime!,'' a send-up of the record business.
	Some of the high points are ``Shoot It,'' which gets a boost from a
lively horn section, the menacing ``Dogtown Shuffle'' and ``Last Call,''
a ``Walk This Way'' sound-alike.
                      William C. Trott (UPI)

    More from rumor central...
    
    The hot LA news is WHO will be selected to do the upcoming world-wide
    DLR tour (Auditions are currently on-going).  Guitarist Jason Becker
    has been found to be "terminally ill", and thus cannot do the tour
    (although may record again with Roth in the future).  This is really
    too bad...Jason is only 20 years old, and is a very promissing
    player...sad news if he does indeed have a terminal illness!
    
    Buck, RMR (roving metal reporter)

    Terminal illness ??
    
    No way.  That sucks.
    
    jc

    
    What's he got?
    
    
    
                                     DEEBS

    re -1.  That is sick!  Do you really need to know?
    
    
    GAZ

    
    Yes we do, is it contagious?
    
    Flip

    Re: Jason Becker
    
    Anyone see his new Peavey guitar in the latest issue of GFTPM?  Check out 
    the fret markings: 1st (blue #1), 3rd (red #3), 5th (yellow #5), 7th (green#7), 
                  12th (blue #12),15th (red #15), 17th (yellow #17), 19th
    (green #19) and the 24th repeats with the blue.  
    
    The finish is natural wood, the pickups use the same primary colors,
    and the volume knob is a big blue knob.
    
    Mike

    yes, we need to know, because i for one do not believe it.
    

    Re: Jason Becker
    
    I just finished reading his interview in the new GFTPM.  He mentions an
    illness, but doesn't specify what it is.  From the way he talks, I
    don't consider it terminal.  This quote is strange though:
    
    "Q: If it weren't for your illness were you headed for the road?
     A: Oh yeah, definitely.  Me and Dave are still friends and we'll
    probably work together in the FUTURE.  But it's something that I
    couldn't do.  Apart from having to SIT on stage, there's another 22
    hours I'd have to deal with."
    

    I saw Dave last night and was amazed,the guy is just the ultimate
    showman.He started off with "you really got me" and played most of the
    new album,wotta a guy.Surprisingly enough(well to me anyway)he only
    played one song off "eat 'em and smile" and one from "skyscraper"
    but 3 from the "crazy from the heat"ep.Some old VH toons were dusted
    down for the horde and the boxing ring was used to distract your
    attention while the females inflatable legs appeared over the top of
    the *huge* pile of Marshalls.
      Biggest drawbacks were the sound was ultra crap.The venue itself is
    almost impossible to get a good sound in(except for great white who got
    closer than anyone)and the lighting guy didn't put the spot light on
    the lead guitarist when he was doing his solo(Dave pointed to the
    guitar player a few times then just eventually walked over so the guy
    could get some recognition).And it is *definately* a one man show,don't
    expect the band to do anything.Dave is the ring leader,its his show and
    he definately call the shots.But,aahhh its the way he does it.
    
                          your roving reporter.
                                Staynz
    

    re.-1  So we take it you enjoyed the show?
    				The KER
    

    re.-1 um   yep 8)
    
    
    
                                                Staynz

    
    Jason Becker (DLR's latest guitarist) re-releases his solo album
    "perpetual burn" through Roadrunner on April 22nd.
    
    Flip

    Hey folks !  Talked to Ken Robinson yesterday (the KER), he said to
    tell everyone `hi'.  He also wanted me to post the review of the
    Extreme/Cinderella/DLR show he went to.
    
    This is his interpretation, not mine, I wasn't there.  8^)
    
    EXTREME:  Rocked the place !  Played for 50 minutes, including 1
    encore.  They opened up with `It's A Monster',  played `More ...' and
    another acoustic tune that wasn't on the album.  The sound quality was
    primo, and the crowd was definitely on fire.
    
    CINDERELLA:  Vocals were buried in the mix (probably a blessing ...). 
    The crowd was off buying t-shirts through a lot of this.  They picked
    up some momentum by the end of their set, but no cigar.
    
    DAVID LEE ROTH:  Ken is a big DLR fan, and he was truely disappointed. 
    Dave walked a LOT, no ninja jumps.  Dave didn't `sing' very much, a lot
    of `talking' through songs.  Had his hair pulled back in a pony tail
    (hey, that's what all us cool semi-bald guys do ...).  The guitar
    player was good, but he didn't hit the VanHalen/Vai licks even close,
    people in the crowd were buzzing about it too.  And no, he didn't
    perform `Sensible Shoes', even though the crowd was screaming for it. 
    2 encores, and the 38 year old Roth drug his beat bones back to the
    dressing room.
    
    Scary (per KER)

    
    
    	
    	oOOooh... doesn't sound very good. )8  My beau is a 
    	huge DLR fan, too... now I'm glad we didn't get tix...
    
    	)8
    
    	tigg~~~ who likes Sensible Shoes

    I HATE SENSIBLE SHOES !!!!!  *ahem*   I feel better now .   8^)
    
    "Eat 'Em And Smile" was such a GREAT album, "Thighscraper" was pretty
    good as well - but `Sensible Shoes' aggravates me ... but, it is pretty
    popular with the masses ...
    
    Scary

    Could the rousing Extreme applause = why they've been put 2nd on the
    bill at Great Woods?
    
    I agree with Scary on Sensible Shoes (oh no, not again)

    
    
    Well Extreme is local to around here.  I'm sure they figure all the
    fans will be out to see them!  As versus wherever Cinderella is from
    and their old fans.
    
    F.

    Cinderella is a Phily band

    Re -1,  Oh come on Buck, surely they're not that bad! (^8*.
    
    
    GAZ who wouldn't go and see Cinderella if they gave me free tix and a 
        cheauffeur driven limo!

    I saw them on their last tour and they were excellent! (and that's
    coming from me!)

     David Lee Roth's tour was cancelled two weeks in advance.
    
        I am a huge Diamond Dave fan and I was truely dissappointed too!
    
         I went to the last show on his tour......I wish I had never seen
    it.
      Cindyrelly was lame.....
    
          I was screaming Dave,Dave,Dave!!!!!
    
     He came out in a ponytail,scarve and a Wayne Newton get-up......
    
     I said to myself 'Self....OH NO!"
    
     The band was sloppy but definatly *HOT* players.
    
      Dave just wasn't the David Lee Roth that I knew and adored.
    
      He knows he's getting bad because he used such tricks as:
    
    1)He hired a stipper to "warm" the crowd up right before he came on.
    2)He played almost all Van Halen songs.
    3)He threw up his hands during one of the songs and said "I forgot the 
    F**Kin' words"
    4)The day of the show they drop ticket prices down to 10$!
    Anyone with a ticket already could bring a friend...
    5) Even with #4 the place was only half full at best!
    
    
    
          Truely.....I cryed about halfway through it.
    
     Life just isn't fair....
    
                         Frizkid
    

    Gee Friz, that's almost exactly what Todd Caudle said about it in
    yesterdays paper.  And I thought you hated his reviews...
    
    The only difference was that he liked Cinderella.
    
>    4)The day of the show they drop ticket prices down to 10$!
>    Anyone with a ticket already could bring a friend...
    
    And you didn't even take me...
    ;^(
    
    gh

    When I saw DLR on the `Thighscraper' tour, he forgot the words to one
    of *his* songs that night.  C'mon Dave, gimme a break ....
    
    Scary

    It's a gimic to make the fans think that "That Dave, he's human just
    like us!"  Trouble is most of his fans aren't (^8*.  Just kidding, I
    used to love his stuff!  Last one is disappointing though!
    
    Some friends who also love DLR went to see him when he was in Holland
    and they said that his show was poor!  So it isn't because he is at the
    end of a long tour!
    
    
    GAZ

         <<< Note 143.122 by GOES11::G_HOUSE "Green tinted 60s mind" >>>

    > Gee Friz, that's almost exactly what Todd Caudle said about it in   
    
                                Every dog has his day.....
            Even he could lie about this show!!
 
   >  The only difference was that he liked Cinderella.    
    
               L O S E R!!!!!!!
    He must have had some "good" drugs if he wrote that!!!!
          
  > And you didn't even take me... 
    
                   Because I was the one that got taken....
    I would have been *WAY* pissed if *I* had to pay for it!!!
    
    >   ;^(   
    
            Cheer up...You didn't miss anything!!!
    If I had my choice now.......I wouldv'e gone.
    
        Id rather be tell people that had seen the show 'F' off!
    
           Frizkid
    
    

    Sad Friz, now ya got me bumm'in.
    
    I seen him 6 times with Van Halen. All six were kick ass, to think of
    him regressing that bad truly saddens me. Kinda like Kareem Abdul
    Jabbar's last season with the Lakers. 
    
    I'm glad I missed the show. I'd rather remember him as being awesome.

  >  Sad Friz, now ya got me bumm'in.  
    
       Dude, you should see me!!!
    >   I'm glad I missed the show. I'd rather remember him as being awesome.
    
             I really wish that I could whip that show from my mind.
    I saw him on the SKYSCAPPER tour and he ROCKED!!!!
    
         What's really sad is seeing all they kids(Like our singer)
    going "I thought you said he was the best frontman in the biz?"
    
       All I could do was shug my shoulders and get all teary eyed...
    
                    Frizkid
    

    Yeah, I saw Dave with VH (1984 tour) and on his own (Skyscraper tour)
    and he was excellent both times!  This is a real disappointment to see
    him go so badly downhill like this.
    
    I would still have liked going to the show (for free, that is) to see
    it for myself, it's kinda hard to believe.
    
    gh

    
    
    
    Friz...  can you put a review in the Cinderella and Extreme notes about
    their shows... ?
    
    
    Goddess 

    -1
    
    Ex-dream(tm) was off the tour by then

    re:-1
    
         Will do Goddess!
    
                  frizkid
    

It sounds to me that Dave is doing the "I forgot the f##ing word" trick all the
time.

Listen to the last song of Dwezil Zappa's "Confessions", it's already mentioned
in there.

Didier

    
    Anybody know whats happened to Jason Becker ? I heard he's terminally
    ill but I heard that a long time ago, without sounding morbid does
    anyone know if he's still alive ?
    
    -tony

	Becker is still alive, he has Lou Gehrigs (sp?) 


							-Seth

    Saw Diamond Dave on MTV this past weekend -- what a loser!!

    
    No kiddin'... he's such a geek. 

    Yeah, he was showing his age!  And I think he's becoming a member of
    the hair club for men!   
    
    

Watch it buuuu-dy...
:-)

    Owwwwwwwwwww-ooooo.....  I meant Dave buuuu-dy.... (waving hands and
    wiggling fingers in front of forehead)
    
    :)
    
    

Okay - I'll let it slide this time.  :-)

    You guys are lucky Jesse isn't around to hear all this blasphomey (sp?)
    about his fav performer! :) 
                                Rat

    
    Not that I happen to like DLR or anything...
    
    but he's certainly put out some inventive, catchy LP's since the "big
    breakup" while VH has transmogrified into a boring, uncreative Lite
    Adult Contemporary Band who weren't happy enough to get bland on their
    own, but had to drag down the rockin' Sammy Hagar into their quagmire.
    

    Interesting analysis there in .142, but I always thought it was SH that
    dragged VH down, not the other way around.
    
    gh

    
    Well, to be fair, I suppose you could look at it that way, too!  I will
    say this:   VH and Sammy both were rocking before hooking up together
    and, imho, both aren't now.
    
    - Sean

    Diamond Dave will always be a favourite if mine!
    
                                                    staynz

    caught the DLR stint with MTV that weekend too.....I've always enjoyed 
    Dave's sense of humor and definetly enjoyed watching those old VH and
    DLR videos. Don't see enough of the old videos in general anymore.....
    
    Jeff

    the hot for teacher vid. is an absolute classic
    
    
                                                  staynz

    ...Hot for Teacher is my all time favorite video...bar none......pretty
    scary, huh Ian...??.............;')................../k

    
    I would have loved to have teachers like that.
    
    
    

You mean the "which planet" teacher in the vid???

Tim

    
    
    

    RE-2
    
    chris all my teachers looked like that!!!!!  ;^)...
    
    
    re a few
    
    /k it shows we share the same impeccable tastes!! 8)
    
                                                  staynz

I can't watch DLR vids...  I have bad dreams...

:-)

    I like California girls......................I wonder why?  8)
    
    
    
                                                staynz

Yo Ian,

Thats scary man...  Thats what vision was running thru my head 
when I entered that last note.

:-)

    .153
    
    Naaaa, I don't, most of 'em are huge 8^)

    Dear_Jc  
    I can't watch those Vids either.
    
    
       Crazy_Me_Couch_Can't_Take_Much_More,Captain.She's_A_Gonna_Blow_Al

    Re JC
    
     the scariest part is the chick with the muscles.......=8^0
    
    
                                                staynz
    

    Whats wrong with muscles??

    Staynz is just scared of them because he doesn't have any  ;^)

    California girls aren't that great.  Whenever in southern Cal., if I
    ask a beautiful girl where they are from or go to school, they always say 
    Phoenix or ASU respectively.

    
    Yeah, right....
    
    this reminds me of all the stupid articles in Car Audio and Electronics
    on who has better bass.
    
    "Here in CAL we have the LOUDEST bass!!!"
    
    "Everything is bigger in Texas, including our bass!"
    
    "Here in NH, we have the biggest bass AND trout!!"
    
    Give me a break, they are the same everywhere.
    

    RE: Buck
    
    Whats wrong with muscles ??  Ummm...  No comment.  
    
    :-)

    
    Strong calf muscles are necessary.

    
    New album next month.

    
    
    
    Friz is in line already..

And me too, if Jason Becker is playin' for him...

jc

    ......me too,Dave rools!
    
                                                  staynz

Article: 2423
From: [email protected] (UPI)
Newsgroups: clari.news.law.drugs,clari.local.los_angeles,clari.news.lifestyle,clari.news.music,clari.local.wisconsin
Subject: David Lee Roth arrested for buying marijuana
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 93 19:55:45 PDT
 
	NEW YORK (UPI) -- David Lee Roth, former singer with the Los Angeles
rock group Van Halen, was arrested Friday in New York City for buying
marijuana in what police described as a routine sweep of Washington
Square Park.
	A police spokesman said Roth, now performing solo, was taken after
the arrest with other suspects from the sweep to the 6th Precinct
stationhouse where he was charged with a violation and issued a summons
to appear in Criminal Court May 21 and released.
	Charged with buying $10 worth of marijuana, the spokesman said Roth
faces up to 15 days in jail and or a $250 fine.
	Roth's career with Van Halen reached a peak in the mid-1980s, when
the group came out with a series of hits, including ``Jump'' and 
``Panama.''

    
    Oh give me a break...ten dollars worth....
    
    :), d

What's $10 worth, a seed?

When I was in high school that would buy you half an ounce.  (Or so they
say - how could I know that?)

Tim

    RE: Tim
    
    We must be about the same age dood.  :-)
    
    I can't beleive what people pay for a lid nowadaze...
    Sheeesh.
    jc

    I would suspect $10 buying about two joints worth these days.

    Hey I even know someone (swear it wasn't me!!!!!!) that paid $25 for a
    GRAM during !

    any news about new "diamond dave" material. its long overdue.
    
    whats he doing now, is he alive?
    
    jim
    

    He's bald as a cue ball now.  We'll never see him again.
    
    gh

    i too think he is a bit of a knob, but he does get some fine guitar
    players (vai,van halen,becker). i was hoping for some new stuff 8^)
    

    
    DLR is expected to release his 4th studio album early next year.
    Don't know the title of the album but it was produced by Nile Rodgers.
    
    Track listing is as follows :
    
    She's my Machine/Everybody's Got The Monkey/Big Train/Hey Ya Never Know/
    Experience/You're Breathing It/Your Filthy Little Mouth/No Big T'ing/
    The Cheatin'Heart Cafe/Land's Edge/Mississipi Power/Night Life/Sunburn
    
    For this album Roth has used session musicians, none of whom have been
    associated with him in the past.
    
    article taken from Metal CD.....
    
    Derzo.
    

    
      EveryBody'd Got the Monkey ???
      
         What the Hell is that Mean....?
    
    ?ax

    new dave, great....can someone post a release date.
    
    whats the new lp called.?
    
    jim.

    Dave may be a balding old fart but he still rules,in my book!A lot of
    so called front men should take a lot of lessons from him!
    
    						ian

>    Dave may be a balding old fart but he still rules,in my book!
    
    Yah, he rules the Hair Club for Men!

    har har har! 8)
    
    
    						ian

    
     Think the album is called " Just Beautiful Girls "
    

    
    
      If DLR is losing hair, somebody better call the wig companies!
    
      ..I'm trying to picture him totaly bald! Yikes!!!
    

    
    re. 183
    
    The new DLR album is called "Your Filthy Little Mouth". The new single
    is "She's My Machine" and will be released on Feb 7 with the album
    released a month later.
    
    Del.

-1   HA HA HA HA HA !   Good one!!


    > The new DLR album is called "Your Filthy Little Mouth". 


Looks like he's gunning for the 15-year-olds again...

Droid

    I think the term is "still", Andy.

    >-1   HA HA HA HA HA !   Good one!!
    
    I wasn't really joking.  DLR is washed up.  If you don't believe me,
    let's have a p-name bet.  If his new album goes platinum and/or he
    sells out a venue that holds > 15,000, I'll wear the p-name of your
    choice for a week.  If he flops like I predict he will, you wear the
    p-name of my choice for a week.
    
    heh-heh heh-heh-heh

I knew ya wasn't jokin', it still made me laugh out loud tho %^)

    Alright then, it was half in jest.  I'm surprised you haven't heard
    that one-liner before.

    i've been buying dave stuff for years (VH...onwards). he may be a
    dickhead, but its upliftin, flash guitar, good for dreary winter days
    etc.
    
    some o my favs are "beautiful girls"
     			Its Showtime
    			just a gigolo (great for singing when smashed)
    			knucklebones
    			yankee rose
    			2 fools born a minute (sheehan bass playing-uuhh)
    
    to name but a few.
    
    jim.

    At the risk of invoking the wrath of every Van Halen fan in the conf,
    I think DLR's post-VH stuff is much better than Van Halen's post-DLR
    stuff.
    
    "2 Fools Born a Minute" is cool - I particular love the lick before
    the break and the rap aftewards: "Nah, we can't let Stevie drive",
    "Man, I gotta be home before the end of the record", "here's a little
    combination for ya", etc.
    
    I think Vai's guitar work with DLR is a) comparable to most Van Halen,
    and b) better than anything else he's done including the solo albums.
    
    	db

    
    	One of my most memorable concert highlights was hearing the solo
    	to "Hot Dog and a Shake" at about 115 db's ... amazing!!
    
    	And DLR rips new Van Halen to shreds.  I love EVH, but Steve Vai
    	really does play circles around him.  "Elephant Gun", "Shy Boy",
    	etc.
    
    							GTI

>    At the risk of invoking the wrath of every Van Halen fan in the conf,
>    I think DLR's post-VH stuff is much better than Van Halen's post-DLR
>    stuff.
    
    I've been saying that for years.
    
>    I think Vai's guitar work with DLR is a) comparable to most Van Halen,
>    and b) better than anything else he's done including the solo albums.
    
    I also agree with this statement.  My favorite Vai guitar work is on
    DLR's "Eat 'Em and Smile".
    
    Greg

    Well Vai can thank DLR for all that emotion.

    
    
    Vai, Shehan and Roth were the perfect band.. Saw them twice with that
    lineup... UNBELIEVABLE... 
    
    Whit-

    YEah?  I saw 'em three times, and you are RIGHT!
    
    Mega-Rippin'!  What a show!
    
    jc

    I never saw Sheehan play for Roth as they never made it over here but I
    can honestly say that the last time I saw DLR is one of the best
    concerts I have ever seen.Dave is still a hot ticket fer me! 8)
    
    
    					ian

    many folks out there loath roth....come to think of it, maybe its the
    guitarist that backs him thats important, the last time i
    saw him (lil aint enough tour), Jason Becker was ill and he had a stand
    in...without a vai/vh/becker he was ordinary to say the least!!
    
    oh, could someone tell me the name of the disease jason becker has and
    how is he now? 8(
    
    jim
    

    >oh, could someone tell me the name of the disease jason becker has and
    
    Lou Gehrig's (sp?!) Disease
    
    
    >how is he now? 8(
    
    Crippled, pretty much.

    
    
    
    Roth does bore me without Sheehan and Vai.. Even when it was just Vai
    it still wasn't the same show.. Vai and Sheehan were ment to play in 
    the same band! 
    
    Whit-

    Another plug for Sheehan and Vai as the *Ultimate* band!!  The playing
    on Eat Em... send chills up my spine.  'Shy Boy' ROOLZ!!
    
    I don't either Vai or Sheehan with what they are personally doing now,
    fwiw.

    I'd agree on the Ultimate band idea...*very* good musically!
    
    
    					ian

    vai/sheehan are top notch.
    
    has anyone seen the Eat em and smile vids with vai and sheehan (i think
    it is yankee rose/goin crazy). what sods, brilliant musicians and they
    know it too (stevies smiling face says it all) 8^).
    
    any names yet of DLR's new guitarist.
    
    jim.

>    I don't either Vai or Sheehan with what they are personally doing now,
>    fwiw.
    
    hUh??
    
    I didn't catch the tour(s?) with both Sheehan and Vai, but I did catch
    the Skyscraper tour with just Vai, and it was still amazing.  (Poison,
    however, opened up for 'em and blew total chunks...)
    
    gh

>>    I don't either Vai or Sheehan with what they are personally doing now,
>>    fwiw.
    
    >hUh??
    
    Sorry, lets see if we can construct a correct sentence, shall we?
    
    Personally, I don't care for the current projects Vai are Sheehan are
    currently involved with.
    
    There, much better!

>    Personally, I don't care for the current projects Vai are Sheehan are
>    currently involved with.
    
    I can understand that applying to Mr. Big, but have you heard the new
    Vai album?  To me, it sounds like something you'd probably be able to
    get into.
    
    Greg

    Who is his guitarist this time??
    

    > >how is he now? 8(
    
    > Crippled, pretty much.
    
    He wrote an "open letter" to the readers of Guitar for the Practicing
    Musician.
    
    He's a lot worse than crippled.  He can't feed/bath/etc himself
    anymore and he has a lot of pain.
    
    However, that has NOT stopped him from producing another album. 
    Apparently he wrote it using a computer and got other people to
    perform on it.   As I remember, it's almost done and will be
    released on the Shrapnel label.
    
    He's tried a bunch of "alternative" therapies, but most of them
    haven't helped.  Apparently he's into something new which has
    helped somewhat with the pain.
    
    But from what we know of this disease, the prognosis is not very good.
    
    	db

    
    
    For anyone who's still interested.....
    
    Diamond Dave tours the UK in May. On Wed 4th he plays the Edinburgh
    Playhouse. Think I'll go see what he has left. 
    
    Del.

    I'll certainly be there...!Dave is still very excellant and can still
    entertain better than most.
    
    
    
    					ian

    Just be sure to take your sunglasses to protect yourself from the
    spotlight glare off the top of his melon!  Might take two pairs...
    
    gh

    hargh,hargh,hargh
    
    he may just adopt the "Klause Mein" idea and wear a daft hat!Nobody
    would *ever* guess what he was trying to hide! 8)
    
    
    
    						ian

    i see dave is in the current issue of Q mag. seems to have calmed down
    a bit and has his hair cut a la bon jovi.
    
    got the tickets furr the playhoose, stalls near the front.
    
    whens the new lp due?
    
    jim

    I had heard about his hair and I'm not suprised...his hair was going
    rapidly so he needed to do something and pretty damn quick!
    btw..........see you at the Playhoose! 8)
    
    
    
    						ian

    I saw Dave on a promo for some TV show he was gonna be on a few days
    ago, and his hair is short now!  Kind of the Bon Jovi, around the neck,
    length or so.
    
    gh

    Woop...guess I should have read all the unseens before putting new ones
    in, huh?  FWIW, it didn't look thin up on top like it used to.  Guess
    he's just a member of the Hair Club for Men or something...

    I saw that commercial.... I thought it still looked thin on top.
    
    And I think his hair is even shorter than Bon Jovi's!
    
    |KS|

    I couldn't really tell, the clips of him were pretty short. 
    When/what's the show?  Is it already over?
    
    gh

    I don't know anything about it, just saw the TV commercial... but
    wasn't really paying attention.

    Sounds about like what happened to me...

    I heard the new single at the weekend ad thought it to sounds quite
    like Van Halen.Needless to say I liked it very much! 8)
    
    
    							ian

I saw his new haircut - quickly - and he looked normal...

    me too........bloody hell,rock is dead!He could pass you in the street
    and you would recognise him!
    
    
    						ian

-1 you make it sound like a bad thing !

    I think Roth and Vince Neil, should join up and do a tune, or even
    a tour together...That'd be too cool...

    did ye see diamond dave on "noisy mothers" tv show last week. it gave a
    potted history with some great vids like goin crazy, lil aint enough
    (more women than any vid ive seen...oooohhh) and his new single. 
    
    
    i really like it, march 7th for lp release.
    
    he was also in scotland on sunday newspaper, even his family are nuts.
    
    of 9 uncles, 8 are surgeons, his uncle dave has just become a father at
    72 and his aunts have just been done for breach o' the peace at 82/79
    respectively.
    
    daves only 39 too, lots more years of mayhem.....
    
    jim 8)
    

    I heard the new single, called; She's my machine...or...Love Machine,
    I think thats what irs called...But it sounded pretty good, typical
    Roth screams great guitar work...By the way who does he have guitaring
    this time...Previous note said March 7th release, the album is called
    YOUR FILTHY LITTLE MOUTH...
    

    
    re. last
    
    Roth's guitarist is/was a guy called Terry Kilgore. He recorded the
    album but acording to recent reports he's just been fired.
    
    Don't know for sure.....
    
    Del.

    the guitarist is out and Dave is searching for a new guy.I saw the
    interview on tv and one thing crossed my mind...didn't you think he
    combed his hair in sucha manner as to hide his badly bits? 8)
    
    
    
    							ian

    yes indeedie, the reason i know is cos ahm doin it myself 80.
    
    i had the eat vids on last night.....the bit in just a gigolo, where he
    says "hey you in the red" to the gorgeous bord....phheeww, hes lived a
    bit, no wonder hes loosin it!!
    
    jim

    He learned that trick from me when he came over to dinner!
    
    Bonzo.... ;^)
    

    what trick was that,Bonzo?The "how to loose hair" trick! 8)
    
    
    
    
    							ian ;^)

    naw... how to comb your hair to make it look as if you have some!
    
    Bonzo

     ahahaha!
    
    
    							ian

    got daves new lp yesterday. i like the single anyway, will give my
    opinion (fwiw) later. hope its good though since the show in may will
    be flaps if his new stuff is sh*t.
    
    jim

    diamond dave @edinburgh playhouse, 4th may........
    
    i've watched dave from early VH days, and he is still F*ckin superb!!!
    
    bashed his way through the new lp, and sprinkled it with beautiful
    girls,aint talkin bout love,ice cream man,jump,panama,california girls 
    just a gigolo,just like paradise etc.........
    
    well worth a look if you used to like him, 
    
    his stand up comedy might be an interesting sideline for him...
    
    ***** for dave.
    
    jim

	Today's USA Today has an article about Dave's new Vegas
	nightclub act.  He's looking to "redefine the image of Vegas
	performers and give aging music fans an option beyond arena
	rock".  His repertoire includes only a few Van Halen tunes
	but "minus the crunch guitar".

	"Instead he has cooked up a jazz-bluesy stew of Fats Waller,
	Miles Davis, James Brown, Boz Scaggs and Lois Prima.  Rock'n'Roll
	is in the rear view mirror.  I ain't that angry anymore".

	His band is a 14-piece ensemble known as the Blues-Bustin'
	Mambo Slammers.  6-piec brass section, latin percussionists,
	and Edgar Winter on keys and sax.

	On mosh pits: "If you see people start to slam into each other
	and wrestle while you're onstage, it's because you stink".

	On Van Halen: "Like and ex-wife.  Not a lot of contact.  There's
	recrimination and nostalgia.  I'm still proud of what I did
	with them.  Their new singer is about as boring as the second
	Darren on Bewitched".

    no replies about Dave's appearance on Leno the other night?
    
    
    I'll start......
    
    
    
    embarrasingly bad!painful to watch and pathetic.next he'll be wearing
     a white jump suit with hundreds of rhinestones and eating
    cheeseburgers by the dozen.dave the vegas years
    
    
    
    just say no!
    
    

    What an utter shock!!!
    Diamond Dave....King of the lounge lizards!
    
    This just goes to show all you people who think that Davey made Van
    Halen......I don't see "Van Hagar" playing lounges in Vegas.
    I think the fact that EVERY album since Dave left has gone to #1 on the
    charts pretty much shows where the talent is.
    The only thing that carried Eat 'em and Smile and Skyscraper can be
    summed up in 2 words....
    
     STEVE VAI!
    
    And as far as the last 2 GEMS he put out.....will the 10 people who
    bought them please identify themselves!!
	
    Can we say WASHED UP?
    
    The sermon is over....
    
    Paully
    

    
    	Van Hagar is playing the schlock that the teeny-boppers like to
    	hear.
    
    	So don't equate album sales to better talent.
    

    Re: -1
    
    Shawn,
    
      depending on how old you were...you could say the same thing about
    old VanHalen playin what teeny-boppers liked to hear.  How old
    were you in 78 ?  I was all of 6...I think old VanHalen caters just
    as much to the teeny-boppers as the new stuff.  It's just old VanHalen
    catered to the 80s teeny bopper, while new VanHalen caters more
    to the 90s teeny bopper.  Since I guess I love both that would make
    me the eternal teeny-bopper. ;(
    
    Shane, who agrees that Diamond Dave should change his name to 
    Rhinestone Dave...and change that hair cut...eeesshh.

I was 20...

I don't agree that their first album was playing something everyone wanted to
hear.  I remember the first time I heard You Really Got Me on the radio.  That
really caught your attention.  

Remember this was 1978 which was a personal low point for tunes on the radio.
Van Halen was like nothing else at the time.

Tim

>I don't agree that their first album was playing something everyone wanted to
>hear.  I remember the first time I heard You Really Got Me on the radio.  That
>really caught your attention.  


The first time I heard it on the radio was sometime in the late 60's %^)

Actually it was Atomic Punk that caught my attention
	


Remember this was 1978 which was a personal low point for tunes on the radio.
Van Halen was like nothing else at the time.

	Hey...what's wrong with Funky Town %^)

	/Cap'n Quad

    
    	Yeah, you're pissing me off, Tim, since that was basically the
    	height of the disco era.  8^)
    
    	But anyways, old Van Halen was ground-breaking stuff.  Teeny-
    	boppers at the time wanted disco and/or dance/R&B, and maybe
    	the pop stuff, whatever happened to be out at the time.  And
    	in comes this EVH guy with blazing speed and "groovy" rhythm
    	work.  People weren't ready for that at the time.
    
    	BTW, I was 12 in 1978 and still listening to pop and disco,
    	and watching "Donny and Marie" and "Dolly Parton" in their
    	respective TV shows.  Sad, really, when I think about it,
    	except for the disco part.
    

    Dave still made the band.  I think the reason the Van-Hagar-Slacks 
    albums are doing so well, is that the die-hard VH fans are buying them
    up to see if they ever get any better. 
    
    :-)
    
    Seriously tho - Balance is the first CD *I* think is worthy of owning.
    All the rest since Sammy is trash.

    	I too was a little shocked at the way Dave looked/acted on Leno.
    But I gotta admit, he still has the babes. Did you see the two,
    chicks with him on stage when he did California Girls...WoW...
    
    	I have every Post-Van Halen, Roth CD. And only 1 Van Hagar,
    and thats because Columbia House sent it to me, and I was too lazy
    to send it back. I can't stand Hagar. And I also believe they are
    musically focused on the Teeney People (ie Paulla) where as Roth
    is simply trying something new. As for Old Van Halen focusing on
    the Teen's in 78, I was hardly a teen (7yrs old) but I too remember
    that was a time of Disco, Van Halen was more of a pioneer, of the
    late 70's for hard rock.
    
    Bobby T

    I think it was just a logical step in his career/personality to end up in 
    Las Vegas.
      I think what stung the most the other night was his singing!Ouch...!
    
    
    
    						Ian

    Hardly a teeny bopper Bobby!! As a matter of fact my friend....YOU are
    alot closer to the teen years than I am, Junior!
    
    And for the record....getting girls does not have anything to do with
    talent. This seems to be a fixation with you("See the chicks with him"
    See also Motley Crue, Vince, etc....) It's called MONEY!! I can tell 
    you that there are PLENTY of "Mint" chicks whowould do *anything* to be
    seen with a rock star, regardless of their talent. And I would venture
    to say that 90% of them probably couldn't even tell you the name of one
    song from any of their albums!
    
    Quit living vicariously through your teen idols pants and get a girl of
    your own!! And Bobby.....Make sure this one has a pulse.
    
    But seriously, why do you "OLD VAN HALEN" fans keep buying these cd's
    if you all think it's crap?? If you really thought it
    was crap, you wouldn't keep buying them. At least that's what everyone
    else did with DAVE!!  HAHAHA
    
    Paully
    

   >     Teeny-
   > 	boppers at the time wanted disco and/or dance/R&B, and maybe
   > 	the pop stuff
    
    Uh... speak for yourself!  :')
    
    This "teeny bopper" wanted Kiss, Aerosmith, Ted Nugent,  and Lynyrd Skynyrd!
    
    Ken
    (Who was 13 in '78)
    
    

    You guys are right now that I think about it.  VH in 78 was definately
    ground breaking stuff.  I forgot all about disco (thank god).  From
    my perspective music the way I know it did not exist until VanHalen.
    With maybe a couple exceptions...Jimi Hendrix and the Beatles.  
    Jimi rules and ya just gotta love at least a few of the Beatles songs.
    
    Shane, who thinks the only thing good that disco produced was Marcia
    Brady in tight polyester pants

    
    	Ken, if you liked KISS then you weren't a "teeny bopper".
    
    	8^)
    
    	And Shane ... Marcia Brady OUT of those same pants is an even
    	nicer thought.
    

    
    Now Shane, DLR was good back then with VH, Van Halen, now it IS Van
    Hagar. People don't really think about it that way, but hey, look who
    is doing all the singing (90%+) and who knows how much writing he
    contributes. Sammy was BEST when he was on his own IMPO.  Hmm, Marsha
    out of tight polyester pants does sound much better shane!  As for
    groups back then worthy of listening....Rush, Queen, Trower, Kizz, Pat
    Travers, etc.....
    
    Mike, who probably won't make it tomorrow night, but will think about
    new years eve possibly!
    

>    groups back then worthy of listening....Rush, Queen, Trower, Kizz, Pat
>    Travers, etc.....

You just summed up my record collection from that era 

I remember being as impressed with You Really Got Me (Yes I had heard the Kink's
version) and really being blown away.

Sort of like when I was a pup in 7th grade and heard Whole Lotta Love on AM
radio for the first time...

Tim

    Re: Mike                                  
    
      For the first couple of albums 5150 and OU812 I would agree that
    Sammy probably contributed a lot to the writing.  But with their newest
    album you can tell that Eddie is reflecting on his own life by
    listening to the lyrics.  That whole album, Balance, has a sort of
    bitter tone to it and I think has something to do with Eddie finally
    writing about him and Valerie.  But lets put DLR and Sammy aside for
    a second and look at who's left.  Michael Anthony, Eddie, and Alex.
    These 3 guys are really who Van Halen is.  Their whole sound has always
    been the same and has been inmistakeable.  Mike always plays those
    eighth notes on the bass, Eddie always has "his sound" and those great
    solos and nifty licks, and Alex always plays heavy on the cymbals.
    And between Eddie and Mike with backup vocals they've always had those
    really high pitched backing harmonies and stuff.  The only thing that's
    really changed is singing style if ya ask me.  Diamond Dave was more
    of a talker...he talked a lot of the songs rather than 'sang' them to
    a melody.  Whereas Hagar is more of a screamer and most of the songs
    always have a melody he follows with the occasional scream.
    But the music, the style, the sound is all Eddie, Alex, and Mike.  That's 
    what rules.  That sound.  Those 3 guys are awesome and could probably 
    have anybody sing for them and they'd still be just as good.  
    
    Shane, who can't shut up about VanHalen ;)

 >   Sammy probably contributed a lot to the writing.  But with their newest
 >   album you can tell that Eddie is reflecting on his own life by
 >   listening to the lyrics.  That whole album, Balance, has a sort of
    
    Just a nit.... a friend of mine is about the biggest Van Halen fan
    there is.  He claims Sammy wrote the lyrics to "Amsterdam", and 
    that Eddy didn't like them.  Having a family now, he didn't
    like the references to pot in it.
    
    I don't know how many other songs Sammy might have written, but
    my sources tell me he wrote that one!
    
    BTW, this friend dragged me to see Van Hagar at a brand new
    outdoor stadium in W. Hartford CT a month or two ago.  The whole
    show, Sammy kept saying how great it was to be back there.
    
    The funny thing is, he'd never been there before!  He was getting it
    mixed up with Great Woods.  (The place looked a LOT like great Woods...
    I think it was called The Meadows)
    
    Ken
    

>I remember being as impressed with You Really Got Me (Yes I had heard the Kink's
>version) and really being blown away.

	Tim, didn't you heard VH's "version" the Kinks wrote it...

	/CQ

    SHANE,
       You hit it right on the head!! No difference who sings the songs,
    cause the groove will take you anyway!!
    
    Paully
    

    
    re-1
    
    utter non-sense...have you heard Sammy Hagar sing Jump?Its definately
    not the same
    
    
    
    					ian

    You are correct ian,
    But by the same token, IMHO any replacement singer for any band singing
    the older songs (ie Dio singing Paranoid) will not be as good, not
    matter how good the singer is. Hager is a better 'singer' than DLR, but
    Hager does not sing DLR era stuff better.
    
    
    Dave

    It is not necessarily not as good...but you are used to hearing it a
    certain way....so it is different!
    
    Arguements can be made for both sides. Both singers have brought
    something different to the band, and both were good in their own ways!
    The only difference is that before VH Sammy had a very successful solo
    career...and after VH Dave's solo career floundered.
    But with VH they both have had great success...SOOOOOOOOOOOO
    
    It must be Eddie, Alex and Mike who make the band.
    
    Paully
    

    Umm, Shawn?  One shouldn't generalize about KISS.
    
    Now perhaps I'm a little older than the rest of you pups in there, but
    where I come from (Southboro,MA) and where I went to school (Assabet
    Valley), you certainly did NOT listen to Kiss.  Kiss was for kids.
    You'd be looking for a beating... :-)
     
    In fact, I remember being a little shocked to see so many Kiss Fans
    when I started noting here.  Ask Buck - I think we had a conversation
    in about '88 about a tune The Crunchberrys were gonna do.  "Rock-N-Roll
    All Night" - I'd never even heard of it before.  :-)
    

    ..well, i put my note about dlr in some other note before i read the
    comments here..but i have to say to bobby t...'WAKE UP AND SMELL THE
    COFFEE IN BRAZIL, WILL YA?? ..the BABES on stage with DLR were
    PAID???...get it??....PAID...CASH....MONEY TO BE THERE!....DLR was 
    positively scary with that hair and white suit.....and don't get me
    started about his singing...he was never a great singer..but he was a
    really good entertainer at one time....seems those days are gone...and
    that hair??......someone..please send me a valium......;")......./k
    

    One Valium....................Comin_Up!!!!!!!
    
    
    
    
     Crazy_I_Got_Xanex_Too_Al    :_)
    

    Y'know... I hear all this talk about how DLR is "floundering" and how
    every Van Hagar album is a #1 (which btw, I think is a false claim)
    and all I can say is this:
    
    	You mean... Van Halen is still TOGETHER???
    
    I don't care how many albums they sell, I'd take the first two DLR
    solo albums over 10 zillion albums like any of the Van Hagar albums.
    
    They just ain't got no BALLZ!!!  Least not, like the DLR/VH albums.
    
    The way I like to put it is that DLR was like Eddie's guitar
    personified: wild, crazy, pushin' buttons, fresh, etc.   
    
    Sammy Hagar is a "good singer".  That's about as much as I can say
    about him (assuming "...yawn" doesn't count as "saying" something).
    
    Maybe part of it is just that Eddie burnt out, but since we're
    comparing post-DLR says to with-DLR sales as if to prove something
    about DLR... all I can say is that with DLR they were incredible,
    w/o him they're just another band on the radio.
    
    Someone needs to light the fire under Eddie's butt again.  DLR said
    that was one of the things about his band with Vai/Sheehan/Bisonnette
    was that they had the fire that Van Halen had lost.   Being that it
    was DLR that realized it was that fire that made VH, I think that
    makes me give him a TON more credit for the original VH's success
    than most people are willing to give:  He KNEW what made it work,
    and he knew (and said in interviews) that the other VH guys were
    getting lame and lazy.
    
    	db

    
    > Someone needs to light the fire under Eddie's butt again.
    
    You hit the nail right on the head there.
    

    
    Re: -1
    
    That might be hard to do with Eddies hip problem. Didn't he break it
    awhile back, and was pretty lame doing a show due to it, why bother if
    it hurts that much? Ever hear of ReSchedule? Look at the RHCP's? They
    are reschudeling due to drummers broken hand.....Eddie was cool when
    they first came out, then a bunch of other up-and-comers started
    immitating him, doing as well, if not better in some respects than
    Eddie. His thing is old now.  I lost interest in them basically after
    DLR left the band, not that I have any of thiers on cd either...I guess
    my tastes have changed over the years! Gotten harder! VHagar is still
    for the teeny-bopper kiddies, and Sammy was better off solo. My
    opinions, not law! No flames please, it's just that they aren't what
    they used to be....no matter what a lot of people think!
    
    Mike, who thinks it is time to leave this note and other VH related
    ones alone for awhile, it might give Shane something to work with! ;-)
    
    

    Re: everyone
    
    Obviously this is a somewhat contraversial topic and it seems that
    most people are set in their opinions so I will just say one thing
    to all those who think that old VanHalen was great and new VanHalen
    is crap....
    
    		"up your nose with a rubber hose" !
    
    thank you,
    
    Shane, who knows how much Ian likes to watch "Welcome Back Kotter"

    
    
    followed by some 
    
    "hegh hegh hegh" (Arnold Horshack laugh)
    
    
    
    						ian

    	Always hated Hagar and always will. I think when Roth was in
    Van Halen, the music was hard rockin' party kickin' body swingin'
    rock and roll. It seems now Van Hagar prefer to make statements,
    and stand up on their soap boxes and preach, and they try to get
    that 'perfect-radio' sound. Where as before, it was no so technical,
    Eddie would just slam on the guitar etc. Van Halen is classic old-time
    rock and Mother'f'n'Roll, I'm sure most people get that air-drummin'
    or air guitar goin' when an old Van Halen tune comes on the radio,
    but with new Van Hagar...I'm lucky if I even bother to scratch my
    groin...When I listen to music, I want to hear some rockin adreinalin
    pumpin partin' fun rock and roll, if I wanted soap box, I'd watch
    CNN. Now granted, not all Van Hagar's tunes are soap-box, but they
    just don't seem to play the party type tunes anymore...My Opionion...
    
    Bobby T

    Yeah,  if I was producing them I'd INSIST on doing something almost
    completely "live" with few overdubs.   None of this overblown
    production crap - just a rock n' roll band pumping it out from the
    gut.  And I'd tell [warn] Eddie that his guitar was gonna be back
    up front in the mix again - direct mic'd, almost no efx, etc.
    
    I understand that the old albums used to be done that way.  I even
    heard that VH I was recorded in like 2 days or something ridiculous
    like that.
    
    	db

    re. DLR on Leno.....Pathetic,an embarassment.Made me cringe.I still
    cannot believe that THAT was the DLR from the Van Halen we all
    loved.Such a shame.....I think he's doing WAY too much crack!
    
    -kev

    
    
    Re: 143    
    	>>  CDCUP_TORREN wrote:
    	>>  Always hated Hagar and always will. 
    
    ok fine..it's your perogative..I've always hated cold toilet seats and
    always will
    
    	>> I think when Roth was in Van Halen, the music was hard rockin' 
    	>> party kickin' body swingin' rock and roll. 
    
    agreed.. it kicked .. 
    
    	>> It seems now Van Hagar prefer to make statements, and stand up on 
    	>> their soap boxes and preach, and they try to get that 
    	>> 'perfect-radio' sound. Where as before, it was no so technical,
        >>  Eddie would just slam on the guitar etc. 
    
    They have a few songs namely on F.U.C.K. and Balance that you could say
    they are 'preaching'.  But if you actually would listen to 5150 and
    OU812 there is still that 'hey let's get drunk and party and look up
    girl's dresses' attitude all over the place.  As for their perfect
    radio sound if you listen to 1984 (last album with Roth) you'll notice
    a difference in the production compared to their first album.  I think 
    they were evolving their sound the whole time.
    
    	>> Van Halen is classic old-time rock and Mother'f'n'Roll, I'm sure 
    	>> most people get that air-drummin' or air guitar goin' when an 
    	>> old Van Halen tune comes on the radio, but with new Van Hagar...
    	>> I'm lucky if I even bother to scratch my groin...
    
    so "getting lucky" to you means the off chance that you scratch your
    groin ??    :)
    
    	>> When I listen to music, I want to hear some rockin adreinalin
        >> pumpin partin' fun rock and roll, 
    
    okay here are a few off 5150: Good Enough, Get Up, Best of Both Worlds,
    5150.  Here's some off 0U812: Mine All Mine, A.F.U., Source of
    Infection, Sucker in a Three-Piece.  These are all hard-rockin, 
    party-rockin, body-swingin songs and they happen to have Hagar in
    the band.
     
    	>> if I wanted soap box, I'd watch CNN. Now granted, not all Van 
    	>> Hagar's tunes are soap-box, but they just don't seem to play the 
    	>> party type tunes anymore.
    
    Well the above mentioned songs from 5150 and OU812 are definately party
    type.  The last two albums have been more serious yes.  I guess the
    bottom line is everyone in VH is gettin older.  Look at Dave.  What
    the hell kinda crap is *he* singin now ?  I guess you can only dish out
    soo much of one kind of stuff before you just start to burn out and
    need to move on and express another side in your music.  Granted we
    all seem to agree that we loved VH with Roth cause it was up-beat,
    party rocknroll.  I love Calvin N Hobbes, but the guy who writes it 
    is retiring it this year cause of burnout.  He wants to do something
    else.  I guess VH is wanting to do something else too.  I myself love VH
    and like their newer stuff.  It is different and I can appreciate it.  I 
    also love to throw in some Runnin w/the Devil too.  I guess I'm just a
    real VH fan and will always like thier music because they are doing what 
    they want to do as musicians and not what they think will 'keep' all of 
    their old fans.  I respect them more as musicians that way than as just 
    performers.
    
    Shane, who *still* can not shut up about VanHalen                

>    Sure, Dave IS an arrogant, conceited b***hole....
    
    Which makes him the PERFECT rock singer IMHO.
    
    I always thought that Dave was the "vocal personification" of Eddie's
    guitar: arrogant, conceited, etc.

    
    	He's a lounge lizard in Vegas-type shows.
    
    	No, really ... I'm not kidding.
    

    
      Hagar is alright, BUT Roth RULES !!!
    
    /Sax-a-Ram-A-Lama-Ding-Dong
    

    
    the last DLR solo album I bought was  "your filthy little mouth" and it
    was shite!
    
    
    					Ian

    I could see good ol'Diamond Dave doin' more tunes like "Sensible Shoes"
    off of the "A Little ain't Enough" album!  Which BTW I think'll be his
    last respectable one!  Unless he changes his style to a bluzee lounge
    signer type style...

    i read in a guitar mag that hagan had been 'bagged' and dave was back
    recording with VH.....anyone heard any more....
    
    jim

    
    Jim,
    
    See note 45.  from about .800 on!
    
    Talk of the conference for a bit there.
    
    /jen