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| 111.2 | ..... oh yeah, well ..... | RAVEN1::JERRYWHITE | Opinion Set Hidden | Mon Jun 20 1988 10:18 | 8 | 
|  |     We're using a 24 track digital recorder.  We'll probably use something
    nice when we go in the studio.  
    
    p.s.  You believe that one and I've got some ocean front property
    in Arizona I'd like to sell you !!!
    
    
    				Mr Scary II
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| 111.3 | We'll try anything once... | NINJA::COOPER | Bag it Mr. Boo-Boo! | Mon Jun 20 1988 10:20 | 8 | 
|  |     4-track cassette.  We're cheap, but we have a real nice board 
    (read:quite) for pre-record effects/mix.
    
    Anybody have any hints on how to get a real nice sound ?  Buck ?
    
    We're mic-ing all three guitars, and have five mic's for drums...
    
    JC
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| 111.4 | Yipes ! | NINJA::COOPER | Bag it Mr. Boo-Boo! | Mon Jun 20 1988 10:21 | 4 | 
|  |     By the way... This is the first time we've used the board for demo
    taping, so all suggestions are welcome...
    
    JC
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| 111.5 | Direct vs Not | BUSY::JMINVILLE | Arthur Dent in another dimension | Mon Jun 20 1988 12:00 | 10 | 
|  |     Be vewy, vewy caofuw about anything that goes "direct" into the
    board.  Example:  if you're mic'ing drums and guitar amps and the
    bass is going direct, just be aware of the level of the bass, 'cuz
    it'll tend to overpower the other stuff.  Also, if you're using
    high quality mics (especially for vocals), the voices may tend to
    be louder than the other instruments.
    
    I'm a real novice at home recording, WJB must have some advice??
    
    joe.
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| 111.6 | Home recording... | NINJA::COOPER | Bag it, Mr. Boo-Boo! | Mon Jun 20 1988 12:16 | 6 | 
|  |     Thanks for the advice.  We are mic-ing all the amps and drums. 
    Probably use my SM58 for vocals, maybe our EV.
    
    Do you have a sister named Sally ?
    Just curious...
    jc
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| 111.7 | DEMO | VICKI::STAGING |  | Mon Jun 20 1988 13:00 | 9 | 
|  |     I HAVE A DEMO TAPE WORTH LISTENING TO IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED IT
    IS ONLY ONE SONG . IT WAS RECORDED LAST APRIL IN MANCHESTER,AT 
    AIRWAVES ON 24TRACK AND WAS MIXED IN MAY AT NEWBURY SOUND IN   
    BOSTON.IT HAS BEEN PLAYED ON WBCN'S LOCAL MUSIC SHOW AND IS NOT
    A BAD TUNE.THE SONG IS CALLED "SHE WAS IN LOVE" AND IS COPYRIGHTED
    SO DONT GET ANY IDEAS.IF YOU WANT TO GIVE GIVE IT A LISTEN SEND
    MAIL TO VICKI::STAGING.                                        
                              JAY
    
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| 111.8 | Wuz yo fingas in da pie ??? | RAVEN1::JERRYWHITE | Opinion Set Hidden | Mon Jun 20 1988 13:03 | 9 | 
|  |     Ray,
    	Did you perform on it ??
    
    
    					Mr Scary II
    
    
    
    	
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| 111.9 | Yeah, da pie !?! | NINJA::COOPER | Bag it, Mr. Boo-Boo! | Mon Jun 20 1988 13:08 | 2 | 
|  |     Yeah, are you on it ?
    
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| 111.10 | demo | VICKI::STAGING |  | Mon Jun 20 1988 14:13 | 17 | 
|  |     
    YES,IM ON IT . I PLAYED LEAD AND RHYTHM GUITAR ON IT.          
    MY NAME IS JAY STANLEY AND IM A TEMP. HERE IN SALEM JUST FOR   
    THE SUMMER I HAVE TO MAKE ENOUGH MONEY SO I CAN GO BACK TO     
    SCHOOL IN THE FALL.I AM A STUDENT AT BERKLEE COLLEGE OF MUSIC  
    AND A DEVOTED METAL HEAD UNLIKE 90 PERCENT OF BERKLEE STUDENTS.
    THE OTHER PLAYERS ON THE TAPE ALSO ATTEND BERKLEE EXCEPT FOR   
    THE BASS PLAYER WHO HAPPENS TO BE MY BROTHER.                  
    THE NAME OF THE BAND IS "OVERDRIVE"AND THESE ARE THE MEMBERS:  
              TOM JORDAN : VOCALS
              JAY STANLEY: LEAD GUITAR
              GLENN STANLEY: BASS
              GEORGE SPATTA: DRUMS
              JAVIAR DAVILA: KEYS
              PAUL MANNING: GUITAR
    
                   JAY
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| 111.11 |  | PFLOYD::ROTHBERG | and now, no. 1, the horse chestnut | Mon Jun 20 1988 15:26 | 14 | 
|  | 
                Formicide demos  are  available  here (if anybody
                wants to send a tape).
                
                Let me know by mail first . . .
                
                Re: .-1
                
                Could you kill  the  CAPS  PLEASE?!?!?  It's hard
                to read and it  looks  as though you are yelling.
                Thanx.
                
                Best regards -Rob
                
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| 111.12 | 2EZ, Her Love, Take 1342...;^) | ERASER::BUCKLEY | Yo, the MESSIAH by GFH Kicks total ass! | Mon Jun 20 1988 15:27 | 16 | 
|  |     
    Yo, recording dudes in SC
    
    My suggestion is to try not to do any excessive EQing to tape, leve it
    for mixdown, except for the drums...get a good drum sound to tape.
    Jerry use real speakers for the recording!  JC, get a new ste of
    strings!! ;^)  Um, try to compress as many instruments to tape as
    possible...it limits the dynamic range in each inst and allows more
    things to be heard (ie less clutter) when mixing down. Try and use a
    good mic for vocals...a 421 or 441 would be great, even a beyer is
    better than an SM58, but I guess it'll have to do if that's all u got.
    
    Hope it goes well boize,
    Buck 
    
    
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| 111.13 | Bum rush the mics | REPAIR::EDWARDS | Watch out, here comes a LAWNMOWER! | Wed Jun 22 1988 01:50 | 8 | 
|  |     
    
    	I've a few British THRASH demo's I could possibly start trading
    with.  Any interest should be directed towards mailing me at
    	REPAIR:EDWARDS
    
    U.K.A.C.
    		MoshDuck.
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| 111.14 | What is too much ping-pong ? | NINJA::COOPER | Bag it, Mr. Boo-Boo! | Mon Jun 27 1988 07:57 | 13 | 
|  |     I got a question for y'all...
    
    2EZ has finished the rhythm trax on our latest demo... I was thinking
    last night of ping-ponging one of the two trax we used thru an FX
    rack.  Has anyone ever done this on a 4-trac ?  Obviously on a 4-trac,
    I don't wanna wreck the sound quality by bouncing too much... Is
    this too much ?  We were gonna use the other two tracs for
    vocals/lead...
    
    What do ya think ?
    
    jc
    
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| 111.15 | Bouncing Baby | MARKER::BUCKLEY | Yo, the MESSIAH by GFH Kicks total ass! | Mon Jun 27 1988 08:52 | 11 | 
|  |     
    First, why would you wanna bounce thru effects??? (unless it was
    maybe an eq)
    
    Second, if you wanna bounce, that's fine, however, don't bounce
    too much...each generation is more noise, less high end and less
    overall clarity.
    
    one, maybe two bounces are ok, more and you're asking for trouble.
    
    Buck
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| 111.16 | Studio quality reverb | SAMURI::COOPER | Bag it, Mr. Boo-Boo! | Mon Jun 27 1988 09:10 | 9 | 
|  |     Buck, the only reason I wanted to bounce was to add some of that
    "studio quality" reverberation/delay.  I was just thinking of doing
    one of the two trax we've used so far.
    
    I'm real open to suggestions, if you got an idea, lets here it !
    
    thanks,
    jc
    
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| 111.17 | Hssssssssssssssssssssssss ! | RAVEN1::JERRYWHITE | I'm having a nice life ... | Mon Jun 27 1988 10:46 | 6 | 
|  |     Coop, I think we should put a "p.s." at the end of the tape saying
    "This recording was made with no regard whatsoever to noise reduction."
    or maybe "Recorded using Dolby A (Absent)".  It might save a lot
    of questions later on .........
    
    					Mr Scary II
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| 111.19 | Dbx and recording don't mix | BUSY::JMINVILLE | Arthur Dent in another dimension | Mon Jun 27 1988 12:12 | 6 | 
|  |     I just read somewhere that Dbx (or whatever) is absolutely NFG when
    recording.  I can't remember specifically why (u know WJB?), but
    it had something to do with signal gain/loss once the signal hits
    the tape.  Dolby is OK.
    
    joe.
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| 111.20 | Reply set hidden | CSC32::G_HOUSE | Greg House - CSC/CS | Mon Jun 27 1988 13:06 | 20 | 
|  |     Re: .19  Dbx .vs. Dolby
    
    That's been a pretty firey topic (several times) in NOVA::COMMUSIC.
    The general consensus was that most had never had problems with
    Dbx unless there were other problems too (bad line levels etc).
    
    I personally don't think that one pass through a decent quality
    reverb/DDL would add too much noise.  It's when you layer 100
    overdubs... 
    
    If you can stand to wade through a lotta keyboard/MIDI type stuff,
    NOVA::COMMUSIC has quite a bit of information on home recording
    (typically on 4 tracks, some 8).  There was one note in particular
    which was titled something like "Low budget production" which I thought
    had some interesting ideas.  It was kind of a long series written by
    one of the noters there.  If anyone's interested, I'll go look for it
    and post the note number here. 
                                  
    gh
      
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| 111.21 | Commusic note... | SAMURI::COOPER | Bag it, Mr. Boo-Boo! | Mon Jun 27 1988 13:21 | 4 | 
|  |     Yeah, Greg, I'd love to see it....
    
    If you ever get the chance...
    jc 
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| 111.22 | Recording techniques in COMMUSIC | CSC32::G_HOUSE | Greg House - CSC/CS | Tue Jun 28 1988 12:02 | 6 | 
|  |     Ok!  It's note 282.* in NOVA::COMMUSIC (Press KP7 to add this to your
    notebook).  It was written in installments and is pretty long.  I'd
    suggest EXTRACTing it and printing the results.  It's too long to try
    and read in NOTES. 
    
    gh
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| 111.23 | Yepper... | SAMURI::COOPER | Bag it, Mr. Boo-Boo! | Tue Jun 28 1988 12:37 | 5 | 
|  |     Thanks Greg !
    
    On the scope...
    jc
    
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| 111.24 | Commusic | SAMURI::COOPER | Anthrax Roolz! | Wed Jun 29 1988 08:16 | 7 | 
|  |     Hey Greg...
    
    Thanks for the tip !  That guy seems to really know whats up with
    the 4-track.  If anyone out there want to know how to get 12 trax
    off of their 4 track read it up...  It's good stuff.
    
    jc
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| 111.25 | Wait! | CSC32::G_HOUSE | Anthrax roolz | Wed Jun 29 1988 10:09 | 9 | 
|  |     Yeah, I liked it too.  He really likes the Y cords...
    
    I was thinking last night about your prev question about the bounce to
    add delay/reverb...Why don't you skip that until the final mixdown and
    add it as you take the final mix out to stereo (I presume you have more
    than 4 channels in the board).  That way you can save the noise in the
    4-track and have more flexability in the final mixdown. 
    
    gh
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| 111.26 | thanx from me too! | HAZEL::STARR | You ain't nothin' but fine, fine, fine! | Wed Jun 29 1988 10:48 | 4 | 
|  |     I also went into COMMUSIC and copied it. Thanks for the pointer!
    It had a lot of interesting info that I never thought of.
    
    cat
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| 111.27 | more on home recording | FUTURE::DSMITH |  | Wed Jun 13 1990 12:47 | 11 | 
|  |     Another note regarding "home" recording....stay away from 8-tracks
    as they are too difficult to re-use in a larger studio...4/2 tracks
    are best...
    
    	As for the board - the mention of overpowering bass is one to
    watch - also spend some time with just bass/drums - drums mic'ed
    can make the music "muddy" if peaking out over the bass, etc. Bass
    and Keys are best left direct (providing that the player watches
    the levels) - best to track vocals after the basic's are down...
    
    Dave
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| 111.28 | on demos.. | FUTURE::DSMITH |  | Wed Jun 13 1990 12:51 | 9 | 
|  |     Also - I got a few demo's which I pass around - let me know or
    call :
             Scared of Horses (U-2ish/alternative) - 4 song ep  
                (508) 879-7436 (John Coco) 
             Transit (Toto-sounding/Early Sammy H) - 3 song demo
                (508) 453-5091 (Chris Reddy)
             Ephesus (a cross of April wine/Styx)  - 3 song demo
                (508) 752-5175 (John Calabro)
    
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