Conference napalm::heavy_metal

    
    	   As with most bands which make a comeback, I'm of the
    	opinion that Aerosmith was lots better then than they
    	are now.  They had more fire and energy when Rocks was
    	released... they drove their music home with surges of
    	raw power.  Now their music sounds a lot like ballads,
    	which are okay, but not the kind of thing I look to heavy
    	metal for.
    
    	-=[MOSAT]=-
    	(my age is showing)

    I like the new LP a lot. I think it's the best they have done
    since 'Rocks' (which is a masterpiece!). I agree that "Angel"
    is pretty weak, but "Hangman Jury" makes up for it. And if you
    want loud rock, listen to "Permanent Vacation" - this song kicks
    more ass than anything since "Back in the Saddle". Great tune!
    
    I'm glad to see Aerosmith branching out (ala "The Movie", or the
    country song on their cassette single) without sounding weak or
    out-of-place. While songs like "Angel" get the most airplay, I'll
    just skip over that one and go on to "Permanent Vacation" and
    "I'm Down".
    
    Alan S.

    
    I think Permanent Vacation is amazing!! - a real masterpiece.
    
    Rocks, I thought, was very samey.  Had some good tracks on it but
    lacked spice.  Toys in the Attic is one of their best yet but there
    is no definite Aerosmith sound, it varies but still manages to go
    from strength to strength (as someone else said, The Movie is a
    totally amazing single.  You can almost see the ONE band working
    together, rather than fighting each-other for the limelight).
    
    Amazing band and one of my major influences.
    
    -Tony

    I think the best album they had was "Get Your Wings"(does that bring
    me back!).I think that Permanent Vacation is probably the bands
    best effort since "Night in the Ruts".After Joe Perry left the band
    (Thank god it was,and stayed amiacable)Aerosmith changed personell
    several times and produced some real disasters.Joe Perry created
    the Joe Perry Project,which I saw with Rossington-Collins(remember
    them?)which turned out to be a wonderfully mediocre band that
    constantly reminded me that Joe Perry belonged with A-smith.This
    all ended with "Done With Mirrors",another C+ to B- album,but still
    a come back and reason to rejoice for Aerosmith fans.I think that
    "Permanent Vacation"is a good sign that Aerosmith will be back with
    the full fury that brought them to the top of the heavy metal scene.

    "Get Your Wings" was definately Aerosmith's best album.  "Toys In
    The Attic" a close second.  "Rocks" was their last good album until
    now.  The new album has a dominant R&B influence so it's really
    difficult to classify it as HM.  This doesn't mean the album is
    bad.  I like the album very much.  It just seams that Aerosmith
    is moving on to different ground.

    
    Aerosmith was great when they first started to play.  one of the
    first places was Spring St. Jr. High and Aces and Eights were 
    playing too that night and when Steven Tyler walked in the gym,
    everyone freaked and thought it was Mick Jagger!  I still love
    them now, but miss the rude kids they once were.
    
    Lynne
    
    
    

    
    "Permanent Vacations" is one of their best LP. The CD sound is
    fabulous. 
    
    You (can't remember who) shouldn't say it's not HM anymore...
    
    It may be a little more bluesy but who do you think is listening
    to this album .... but HM fans like you or me.
    
    
    			Didier  "Mamma king"

    
    
    I also liked a lot the Joe Perry's Project 3 LPs
    
    	Let the music do the talking 
        Once a rocker, always a rocker
        ?? forgot the name         
    
    			Didier  "...always a rocker"

    
    RE: .9
    
    The third (actually, 2nd lp in succession) was called I've got the
    Rock n Rolls Again.
    
    I haven't heard the last lp by JPP, Once a Rocker, cuz I was IN
    the studio when they were recording that album.  The sessions were
    *awful*!  Joe was totally uninspired!  They'd go torecord a solo,
    and Joe would get up there and just play some mindless blues thing.
    The producer would say "Joe, that was great, but let's try `another'
    one just for a differenct approach [read producer's line of bull
    cuz he didn't just wanna say it stunk!].  Joe said "F#@$ it, that's
    good enough" and that was that...they left it.  So, after those
    rousing sessions, I just assumed the lp would be worthless even
    after mixdown and would forever live in bargin bins and record return
    orders!
    
    Buck

    
    I always thought A-smith was the epitome of nasty heavy metal, have
    always loved their music and always will!  I wasn't at all dissapointed
    with Done with Mirrors at all.  I'm glad to see that they are off
    of the hard stuff and onto perrier now, too...
    
    Maybe they are getting into more of a rockin/rollish thing now,
    but that doesn't phase me.  They still rule in my book.
    
    HITMAN (Hello, I'm The Master Aerosmith Nut)

    I liked the original better than the one they did with run DMC called
    
    
    		Walk This Way.
    
    

	Anybody got their new release "Gem". 

	I'd like to have a little review of this work, can anyone help ?

	
	Thanx

	Didier. 

    I didn't get "Gem" yet but it's just another best of....
    
    I heard they are in the studio cutting some new tracks for a follow
    up to "Permenant Vacation".  Should be pretty good.
    
    Dark Helmet

    		My fav A-Smith albums are 
     "Rocks" TALK ABOUT A PINNACLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
     "Draw The Line" Talk about energy all the way (Kings & Queens too
    slow)
    					
     "Right In The Nuts" (oops) side 2 10+
    
     "Rock In A Hard Place"  this really moves even wo/JP better than
    done w/mirrors
    					
     				CB

< Note 96.2 by MARKER::BUCKLEY "fast Paganini stuff can b a drag!" >
                     -< They haven't lost that much fire >-

    
    Re: -1
    
    I kinda disagree.  Aerosmith's Rocks lp was sort of a pinnacle,
    It was more rockin then Toys, but Their direction/sound changed
    on the followup lp, Draw the Line.  Basically, the comeback Aerosmith
    is in keeping with the `new' sound that was fused on lps like
    Draw, Night in the Ruts, and Rock in a Hard Place. I, for one, was
    very disappointed with the Done With Mirrors lp, I thought the
    production su&*ed! (sorry Ted)  Their latest is a great album, and
    its cool for being current too, I mean, it could have sounded like
    a Prince album if they wanted it too.



	Hi folks out there,


	me and my friends coming from Bavaria, are extremly disappointed
	about your strange comment about AEROSMITH. 
	We think it doesn't make any sense to compare AEROSMITH with
	the bad, boring and ugly PRINCE. 

	Any comments? 


		Siegi, Armin, Hansi, Bocki, Andrea... etc

	PS. We live in a world of beer
	BAVERIA	

	

    re -1 I agree, maybe I'm not that musical but I don't think Aerosmith
    sounds like Prince.

    Well,the boys have finished recording thier new album in Vancouver,
    Canada,and it's being master mixed now.It's called"THUMP"and 
    everyone who has heard some of it says that it makes Perminate Vacation
    sound like a Barry Manalo record,so look out!!!!!
    They start the Europian tour in September when the record is being
    released.The Stones mentioned them as possible to open for them
    on some of their North American gigs.I live in New England and
    would love too see them play together at the dates for Foxboro
    Stadium in Massachusetts,on Sept.29,30 and Oct.1st,or something
    like that.But I don't see how it would be possible..
     
                              Crazy_Al

    
    
    	I thought it was going to be called "Pump", not "Thump"
    	?!?!?
    
    	tigga~~~

    
    YEAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    

    Ah,tigga,I think you're right.I heard today that the first single
    to be released is gonna be called"LOVE IN AN ELEVATOR",I can't 
    wait to see the vidio--:-)    
    Has anyone heard how Aero contributes to The Crue's new album?
    Tyler is gonna sing a ballard with Alice Cooper on his new album,
    which is called "TRASH".
    The boys are on the move and in the groove...
    
                                                       Crazy_Al

    
    
    	I heard that Steve Tyler and Joe Perry may be doing some
    	backup vocals on the Crue's new album, "Dr. Feelgood"
    
    	Tigga~~~

    
    
    	Supposedly Aerosmith has opted NOT to call the album
    	"Pump" after all..anyone hear anything of it??
    
    	(Guess where I read that?!)  (8
    
    	Tigga~~~

    Tigga,
    
     Does it say when he new album will be out??   I can't wait!!!
    Hopefully, they will tour soon too, they are GREAT in concert!
    
    Renee

    
    
    	sorry Renee....it doesn't.  )8
    
    	Tigga~~~

    I  just heard"LOVE IN AN ELEVATOR".Quite good.It's what I like to
    call"Heavy back-street-Boston-boogie_woogie"which A-smith is so
    good at.The song starts out with a female elavator operator sayin_
    "2nd floor,Hardware_childrensware__womens lingerie,Oh,good afternoon,
    Mr.Tyler---(sexy voice)Are you going down?" A typical Tyler snicker
    follows.
    
    The guitar riff at the beginin has an "Asian"sound but,after a Tyler
    screeech--It's all metal.Harmonization is the best I,ve hear from
    the band,a definite Desmond Childe production...
    
    I bought Coopers"TRASH" and Perry does additional guitar on one
    song,while Kramer and Hamilton contribute a strong backin rhythm
    to another song.on yet another tune,Tyler backs up the Coop on
    a song named"Only my heart talkin".They have a great  screamin 
    match at the end....shivers.........Good stuff,but Childe also
    had a hand in this and the song does bring shades of "Angel"
    into my mind......Whens Motey finnaly gonna release one song to
    the radio stations....
    
    
                                 Crazy_Al
    
    

    The backround vocals bother me too, I found them way too repetative.
    I didn't find the song all too thrilling.
    
    Chris
    

    
    
         I've only heard the song once, but I love it!  "Going DOWN MR.
    Tyler?" Agagagagagagaga! 8^)
    
    Psyched to see them in Portland,Maine 
    Jim

Also, for those who are interested - Aerosmith is in Boston all this week and 
part of enxt week, rehearsing for the upcoming tour. The location is being 
kept very hush-hush.

cat

    Hmmmmm,
    
    Could it be in Waltham?  Could it be in Kenmore Square?  Could it
    be at the Complex?  

    
    I don't think they use the Waltham location anymore. I think it
    was one of the buildings near the football field.
    
    Guy
    

Steve Tyler was over here (England) at the weekend.

At the Bon Jovi gig at the Milton Keynes Bowl, Steve came on stage towards the
end, and they all did a version of Walk this Way. It was tr�s awesome.

Brynn. 

    
    Got second block tix for Aerosmith in November !
                     
    Physched !

    Where are they playin on that day?
                           Crazy-inquiering_Metal_Heads_want_to_know_Al

    
    I can't remember the exact date, but its at Wembley Arena.

    
    What is the verdict on the new album?  Anyone got it?
    
    Flip

    
    I searched the store here for the SINGLE and they'd all sold out.
                                                   
    Its gonna be Number 1 in the UK chart I reckon.

The album isn't released yet here in the States. Not sure when the exact date 
is....

cat

    
    Well Kerrang! have just reviewed it so I am assuming that it is
    out in the UK (or at least within the next week!).
    
    Flip

    I've been hearing a lot of "Love in an Elevator" and the more I hear
    it, the less I like it.  Pretty boring IMO.
    
    Greg

i heard the album and think its well worth the money!!
    
    	the one i think is a dive is motley crue.
    	
    		wendy o'
        

    I would like to know if the sexy female voice at the beginning of
    "Love...Elevator" is Tammi Heidi from 'BCN (sounds just like her
    IMO).

    
    
    	I doubt it's Tammy Heidi but if Shawn's seen the video yet
    	you can be sure he'll let you know in the Hunkette's note.
        (If I could look like this chick...I'd be HAPPY!)        
    	(8      
                
    	Tigga~~~

    
    	Sorry, I haven't seen the video.
    
    	Is she in it, or just her voice?
    
    							GTI
    

    What they're saying is that the woman featured in the video as the
    elevator operator is quite beautiful.
    
    Gh

       Re: .48  Thanks...(?)
    Yes the babe is featured in the video, and as far as New York goes,
    should be in stores this thursday! I'll be there waiting for them
    to open...so far I like what I'm hearin'.
    Space
    
    

    There's a review of the new album in today's Boston Globe.  The
    reviewer (Steve Morse) says it's probably the best album they've ever
    made, going so far as to call the album the Sgt. Pepper of hard rock. 
    He predicts it will outsell even the multi-platinum "Permanent
    Vacation."
    
    Given the single, I wouldn't have expected this kind of rave review. 
    It hits the stores Tuesday.
    
                        - Paul

    re-1,
          Permanent Vacation wasn't "That" good! So, hopefully, this
    new album will be much better!
    
    B.A.

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    new Aerosmith album due in stores today!

    Printed withough permission from Kerrang!
           
    AEROSMITH - PUMP  Rating:  Kapable
    
    I feel an almost overwhelming temptation to slap this b*stard down,
    just stab it in the face of the endless eulogy Aerosmith will receive
    as soon as they honour us with their presence; or maybe because
    of Steven Tyler's mindless claims to have spent a million dollars
    on drugs, something I find utterly contemptible.
    
    But I don't have to.  Aerosmith are still unwittingly adrift in
    their preposterous mid-70's nirvana.  A permanent vacation always
    in full swing, men are rock n' rollers, women are wet beavers and
    certainly don't argue when Steven Tyler, doubtless in possession
    of a set of enormous sexual parts, thrusts them at the lucky ladies.
    
    'Pump' is littered with chest-beating braggadocio; a prehistoric
    love manual for schoolboy flitstones; a wistless w*nker's sexual
    paradise.
    
    Witness 'I shove my tongue right between your cheeks/I haven't made
    love now for 25 weeks/I hear that you're so tight, your lovin'
    squeaks/And I'm ready, so ready' (F.I.N.E.).  Or the Finbarr Saunders
    fnarr fnarr intro to 'Love in an Elevator'.  A wanton female lift
    operator (!) pants lustily: 'Second floor, hardware children's wear,
    ladies lingerie.  Ooooooh.  Good Morning Mr Tyler.  Going...down?'
    Steve laughs his macho laugh before shoving his tongue etc, etc.
    Aerosmith should cover Spinal Tap's 'Sex Farm Women' and really
    get themselves off.
    
    Tireless, big Steve's soon singing about 'Young Lust' like he's
    not really old enough to be Shakin' Stevens.
    
    On the whole 'Pump' is better when you concentrate on the music.
    
    Although Aerosmith now purvey formula kick ass rock'n'roll in the
    same way Foreigner purvey AOR, they're thankfully still several
    miles up on the thousand and one worshipful imitators you can catch
    at the Marquee.  Dinosaurs turned canny survivors, they've had enough
    of drugs, sex'n'rock'n'roll to remain the real thing ahead of Crue,
    LA Guns, Faster Pussycat and the myriad wannabes.  The day they're
    not is the day it gets sad.
    
    'Pump' is a saucy, occasionally gauche, totally slick parody of
    'Permanent Vacation' that lives up to its model only spasmodically
    - on the hard grooving 'F.I.N.E.' for example, or on the more inventive
    'Janie's got a gun'.  But 'Take me to the other side' just can't
    wait to be 'Dude looks like a lady', and 'Voodoo medicine man' and
    'Love in an elevator' are belaboured in a buster of heavy drums
    and riffing while falling short of genuine melody.
    
    'Monkey on my back', 'Don't get mad, get even' and 'What it takes'
    are average songs performed by a very good band with Joe Perry.
    
    'Pump' will hit the spot for the Marquee bandits, and you'll hear
    pale imitations soon enough.  With its polished radio-friendly
    production job and the unassailable status of rock'n'roll legend,
    it's a mildly enjoyable multi-Platinum rolemodel; brainless trouser
    snake party noise from the big fish in the pond and nobody does
    it better.
    
    Written by John Hotten 

    
    Re; The last one
    
    John Hotten seems to spend his journalistic life trying to be
    controversial and alternative. In effect he just makes a fool of
    himself.
    
    Aerosmith never have and hopefully never will be anything but "trouser
    snake rock". That is the whole point of them and the kind of music
    they play - straight up, kick butt rock, no messing. The day they
    write a deep and thoughtful lyric will be the day they lose that
    vital Ingredient X which makes them so good.
    
    That's what I thank, anyway.
    
    Paul
    ----
    

    
    I just bought the new album (well, about five hours ago, actually).
    The track listing is as follows:
    
    Side 1			Side 2
    
    Young Lust			The Other Side
    FINE*			My Girl
    Love in an Elevator		Don't Get Mad, Get Even
    Monkey on my Back		Voodoo Medicine Man
    Janie's got a gun		What it takes
    
    * F**ked up, Insecure, Neurotic, Emotional.
    
    I'll tell you what I think of it tomorrow.  BTW this is another
    of those annoying albums that don't have the words to the songs!!!
    
    Flip

    
    The album rocks! I picked it up on CD and its IMO their best work
    since "Rocks".

    Well, I've been waiting to hear some reviews...
    If the album is anything like Lame in an Elevator, then I don't want
    it.  If it's anything like Perm. Vacation, then I might pick it up.  I
    thought that album was really cool, because it was raw and jammin'.  It
    sounded like they were just jammin out, and that's what I liked.
    
    Also, what's up with the stupid videos?  Not only is Lame...Elevator a
    really stupid "them on stage gyrating" video, but it's the same as
    their last 4 stupid "gyrating on stage" videos.  I don't know about
    you, but I've had enough of looking at all of them age.  They should do
    something good, or at least interesting.
    
    So, is the album worth it?
    
    Steve

    
    Yes, still has that raw energy P.V. I think it's the best since
    Rocks. Check out this weeks Rolling Drone Mag.
    
    Areosmith Leaves today for The start of thier overseas tour.
    
    butchaka

    re-2,
         I agree with you on the lazy videos, But I must say that the
    Chick at the begining is AWSOME! WOW! 
    
         I've also heard that the new album is good! I think I'm going
    to check it out!
    
    B.A.

    Support slot for Aerosmith on the UK leg of their European Tour
    will be shared by Quireboys, Little Angels, Ballam and the Angel,
    and Thunder.
    
    Flip

    
     I finally pick up the new album...
    
                                      "Fantastic!"
    
    Definetly their best work since "ROCKS".
    
    My Fav is "Janie's got a gun!".
    
    B.A.

    
    - I LOVE THAT TUNE !!!

    
    	WAAF's been playing "When Lightning Strikes" alot lately ...
    	which is one of my favorites by Aerosmith.
    
    							GTI
    

Anyone know when Ticks go on sale for the January dates?


The Itch

    Heard a new single from Aerosmith on UNTAAAAAAAMED RADIO!!!
    tonight.
    
    	It was a ballad, and it was excellent. These dudes are BACK
    like no-one's business.
    
    /Motorbreath...could have been off of Rocks, it's really good!
    

    
    New single in the UK, "Janie's got a gun", c/w, "Voodoo Medicine Man".
    
    Flip
    

    I like Janie's got a gun.

    I second that Motion DD...That beginning of that song is AWESOME!
    as is the whole song.
    
    Rae

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    Must be soon,because they're gonna play the Boston Garden on New Years
    Eve.That used to be an old tradtion of theres and it really brings me
    back to see that they're doing it again.I live in Worcester and caught
    them at the Centrum a few times but haven't heard anything about them
    playin there this time around......bummer.
    
    A few note back someone wrote"I'm sick of watching these guys age"".
    That p*sses me off because these guys have a clean gleem in their 
    eyes and faces that I've never seen before,plus they're moving on stage
    like back in 1971....I guess you don't realize what they've been thro
    and what it takes to get where they are again......
    
                  Crazy_gotta_gun_AL

    Hey, do you know when tickets go on sale for these guys, or have they
    already?! - Kim

    re.72
    they haven't even announced any shows, have they?
    
    /M.

    That's what I was trying to find out.

I heard on WBCN that they were going to play the Centrum Dec 31, Jan 2,3.

I only heard them once and that was after an interview with the band.

The Itch...

    
    
    Just got the PUMP album the other day. It's not bad. I guesI'll
    get used to it. It's definetly there worst album(IMO) not that that's
    bad. 
    
    jeff

    I very much doubt the New Years Eve show with Aerosmith- simply because
    a concert with NKOTB is there that night- the Jan 2-3 shows could
    happen though....

    Aerosmith isn't playing the Centrum New Year's eve they are Playing
    Boston Garden.
    
    Renee

Boston is even better!!!!

More seats!!!

The Itch

    
    	The Garden...30th, 31st, 1st.
    
    	Tickets go on sale Saturday!   Anyone know whose opening?
    
    
    							Les
    

    Skidrow is opening for the BAD BOYS  R & R....
    

    
    I heard that last night on the radio and promptly screamed at
    the top of my lungs NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  I HATE
    Skid Row. Oh well....I'm young I'll bounce back.

    
    Hey Hot Kitty!  THIS is another good reason to come over for Xmas!!!!!
    
    Flip

    
    Rae!  Go away!
    
    8^)
    
    Flip

    
    Give me the $'s and the ticket Flip and I'll go anywhere!!!
    They don't call me TCR for nothing!! 8^)
    
    Rae

    Renee, have you heard the album by Skid Row, or is your hatred
    based on Sebastian's kiddy-sex-idol image, or their two singles/videos.
    
    I think the albums is great, I'm psyched they're opening!!
    
    /Motorbreath	

    >Sebastian's Kiddy-sex-idol image
    
    I must be 13 again!  8^)
    
    Flip

    .87�    I think the albums is great, I'm psyched they're opening!!
    
    	You got half right! The album is great. But, Skid Row su* in
    concert!  you'll see!  Aerosmith should make up for them though.
    
    B.A.

    Motorbreath...  I've seen Skid Row twice.  They opened for Bon Jovi
    both nights I went.  They did NOTHING for me.  They were way too loud and
    all they could say was F**k.  Even the other Renee who likes them did
    not like them live.
    
    Renee

    
    Skid Row must have improved quite alot then because they sounded
    awesome at Wembley!  If ya think Sebastian says f*ck far too often,
    whatever ya do, don't go and see Motley Crue - "F*ck yeah!" are the
    only words Vince Neil is capable of uttering.
    
    SKid Row look brilliant on stage, certainly get the crowd going!  They
    are getting tremendous reports in all the music papers.
    
    Flip

>    Hey Hot Kitty!  THIS is another good reason to come over for Xmas!!!!!

        Yes!  We can get into all sorts of mischief when you get over
     here.  ;^)   Just remember to bring an extra bib or two with you.

        Have you called any of the airlines yet?  Do we need to start
     the "Bring_Flip_to_MA_for_Christmas" fund??

        Hot Kitty

    
    I saw Skid Row on the first night of the Bon Jovi/Great Woods concerts
    and I thought they were alright, not spectacular, but definitely
    they did not s*ck.  Then I saw them a couple of nights later at
    the Channel and they were completey awesome, I have never seen the
    Channel that rockin'.  Maybe it's just the big places that get to
    them?  I know in clubs they are great.
    
    Mr. Ed...still think Skid Row will kick some bootie with Aerosmith!

    
    
    Skid Row definitely improved a tremendous amount from Milton Keynes
    (Aug 89) to the M�tley Cr�e gig (Nov 89).
    
    I might even buy the album.
    
    Brynn - Sorta impressed.
    

    
    You will not be disappointed!!!
    
    Flip (going to see them again tonight!)

What I couldn't believe that when I was waiting out in front of 
City Hall Music in Marlboro, these girls from Fitchburg didn't even care
if they saw Aerosmith....They said "Yeah I heard of them...They do 
Love in an Elevator don't they?"   AAAAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGHHHHH!!!!



I near fell over....Aerosmith is just one of the best Hard/Heavy Rock and 
Roll bands that ever lived, having a life span of over 15 years with 
dozens of hits, and platinum albums and these teenie boppers are here
to see skid row....and get this they didn't even try to get it on the 
31st...the ultimate party night!!!!  They also had wristbands that would 
give them first choice.....I end up with some nose bleed seats....At least 
I can get drunk and take the train in......


Wildman

    
    You can't blame the kids if they don't know who A/S is they are
    one of the best but don't blame a younger generation because they
    didn't grow up listening to A/S. Alot of kids today don't know or
    even care who Led Zep is but Know who The Doors are abd they were
    around the same time as Zep. Times chance as well as generations.
    
    I think it is useless to comment on a couple of teenie boppers
    who care less about an old man when they can look up to another
    band who is newer and younger.
    
    Everyone has their own opinion and I like mine...it makes sense
    to respect others for what they like versus what you think they
    should like. So ease up on the younger generation...you were
    there once
    
    
    Gerry

    Gad! I'm still awake!

    re.99
    I agree dude, 100%
    
    Kids are where it's at, always have been, always will be.
    They decide who's hot in the biz.
    
    /Motorbreath

    
    Yeah but who is to say what a "kid" is?????
    
    Aren't we all kids???
    
    Rae

    
    
    
    
    Re .96   "nose beleed seats."
    
    Yah, you gonna actually sit in them? How can you go to a  concert
    and not be upfront. front row is the only place to be!! 
    
    jeff

>    Re .96   "nose beleed seats."
    
>    Yah, you gonna actually sit in them? How can you go to a  concert
>    and not be upfront. front row is the only place to be!! 
 

Sometime the back is better!  I'm not really there to see Aerosmith, but 
to hear them Live.....And usually you can get a little more rowdier in
the back without getting kicked out!  The back has it's advantages!!!!
I've been third row, second row, and front row center, and I found that I 
really don't care where I sit....I'm there for the music...If I get front 
row then all the better.

(As for the teenie boppers....

I was just hopeing that the younger generation would enjoy the classics...
Yes, I am a R&R snob!!!  I was very disappointed by the girls who wanted 
to see Skid Row, but I was absolutely psyched talking to this 9 year old 
and his Mom.  The 9 year old LOVED Aerosmith, OLD Van Halen, Led Zeppelin,
Metallica, and other great bands...He was also into Anthrax whcih surprised
me!!!  There is hope for our youth....)

    
    
    I still don't know alot of the music that the "younger" generation
    is listening to. Heck, I don't know a lot of the music that some
    of the HM noters talk about.ie, anthrax, skid row, etc... Some new
    bands jump right out at me, like Tesla did, but I find myelf still
    playing the older stuff. I had AC/DC Powerage in the deck on the
    way in this morning. Sin City-Great tune!! As far as the concerts
    go, yeah I like to always go up front, a lot of interesting Sh*t
    goes on, among other things. Personal preference.
    
    jeff

    
    17th November 1989 - Wembley
    
    Aerosmith kicked some serious rear end. Excellent gig.
    
    Paul
    ----

    
    OK, it was a good gig, but they didn't play as good as I expected!!!
    
    They should have played somewhere like Hammy Odeon - much better
    atmosphere.
    
    .....only ONE encore....ONE ENCORE!!!!
    
    Flip

    
    Yeah, I prefer Hammy-O to Wembley any day, or for the best atmosphere -
    the Marquee.
    
    One encore - I'm pretty sure that's to do with the Wembley Residents
    Association - I'm told the Arena has an agreement that gigs finish at
    10:30, which put them 10 minutes over time as it was. I think if the
    crowd had their way they'd have got four or five more encores out of
    them!
    
    Still, I don't care - I had a bloody good time.
    
    Paul
    ----

    
    Wembley has the acoustics of a swimming pool - thats because it
    used to be one !!                              
                                                   
    Honest!                                       
                                                   
    My thanks to Brynn for pointing this out to me.

    
    Used to be a swimming pool? I thought the beer tasted watery...
    
    Paul
    ----

    
    Lemmy from Motorhead didn't come out to play in the encore!!!
    
    Now THERE is proof that it can't have been a very good show...Lemmy
    always plays with best bands!!!
    
    Hahahaha
    
    Flip

    I went to the Hammy O on the 15th and they were awesome,I've never seen
    them live before or on video and they were much better than I thought
    they'd be.Joe Perry has got to be one of the coolest guitar players
    around.
    They played all the great songs,although unfortunately missed out "Back
    in the saddle","Movin out" and "Train kept a rollin".Still all the
    other classics were played and they even found time to drag out David
    Coverdale for "I'm down".
    btw.the beer at the Hammy O is pretty poor,and thats when you can get
    to the bar......
    
    	steve.

    
    Re: the beer at Hammy-O
    
    I normally have a few pre-gig pints at the Duke of Cornwall round
    the corner. A more civilised place to swig!
    
    Paul
    ----

    How was the opening band????
    
    Hint...hint...ahem...
    
    Steve

    
    Ya mean the Quireboys....well, they are awesome at a place like the
    After Dark (small club like Club 77) but in an arena like Wembley, they
    sucked...although they did get a few cheers.
    

    Did anyone catch the Rockumentary on MTV last night about Aerosmith?
    
    It was pretty cool. They have on video tape the entire process of
    writing and recording the Pump album.  They showed some of the footage
    last night about the making of Love in an Elevator.   I wonder if
    the will edit it and sell the video at a later date??  That'd be cool.
    
    Psyhed for the shows in Boston!  
    
    Rae

               Just heard  on  WBCN...   if you bring 104 cans of
               food to the  Asmith  concert  to  the  van  parked
               outside, they will give you a backstage pass.
               
               - rob -
                 

    I just got PUMP on CD today - great CD !  I only got to listen to
    bits and pieces of some of the songs but it was a rocker from cover
    to cover.
    
    
    
    				Scary

    Rob,
    
      AAF is doing the same thing bring 107 cans of food and get a back
    stage pass.
    
    TCR1

    Save $3 on food if you listen to 'BCN.  :-)
    
    S

Pump just went Double Platinum...

    Al right,who went to any of the shows at the Boston Garden?
    
                         Crazy_Al

    
    I was there Saturday night!! Awesome show!!! The stage was incredible.
    IT was a city roof top it was wild. The light show was good too
    and as always Aerosmith was a BLAST to watch!!!
    
    The only thing that surprised me is I was one of the oldest people
    there!!!  The place was crawling with teeny boppers many of them
    too scrwed up to even walk not to mention enjoy the show.
    
    There was a write up in a local worcester paper that raved about the
    show with the exception of Skid Row and ole foul mouth!
    
    Rae

    I was there New Years Eve............Great show!...both Aerosmith and
    Skid Row.......the requisite balloons and confetti were released at
    midnite and we all sang happy birthday to tom in Aerosmith which was
    pretty funny...the entire garden singing happy birthday was something
    to see.........all in all it was a great time even if it was 500
    degrees in there............/k 

    
    At last someone appreciates the skids!!!

    For those who want to join the AeroForce Fan Club,and don't know how::
    I costs 12$ and you get Four issues of a news letter,glossy photos,
    some kind of membership card(I think)and a shot at good tickets for
    when the band comes your way.
    You can call 415-543007,or write:AeroForce 1,P.O.box#4668,San
    Francisco.Zip 94101.
    
    Crazy_the_boys_are_headin_to_the_West_Coast_next_Al

    Aerosmith will be on Saturday Night Live,this coming Saturday.
    
                          Crazy_Al

    I heard on the radio this morning that Aerosmith was gonna be on the
    Grammy awards tonight.Theres nothing in the paper about them being
    there and I don't see them on the ballot for being nominated for
    anything.I'd hate to sit threw that whole shindig and then find out
    that they aren't gonna be on...
    
         Crazy_Al

    
    	I think Love in an Elevator is up for best Hard Rock song...
    Actually, I'm sure of it.  My guess is they'll most likely be on.
    
    sean

    
    By the way does anyone know what time it starts?? 8:00 or 9:00? - Kim

    
    
    Thanks!

    Well they weren't on or even mentioned.figgers.....sheeshhh-this
    has been their biggest year in years,and not even a mention...
    
    They were great on Saturday Night Live thou.They did Janies got a gun,
    and"Monkey on my back"All the guys didn't miss a beat or a note.
    They were also on the "Waynes World"segment.
    Pretty funny stuff
    
    
                           Crazy_Ban_the_Grams_Al

    
    Someone just recently gave me Aerosmith Get your Wings.  What a GREAT
    album.   Seasons of Wither is my favorite right now followed by
    Lord Of The Thighs and Woman of the World.  Looks like I'm going to
    have to do some serious investing in old Aerosmith stuff!!!
    
    Rae

Go for Aerosmith 1st album then. It's very good.

The old Aerosmith CDs are priced at $7.96  in Noteworthy, ... just in case :-)

I just ordered the 1st and "Rocks"

Didier

    Here's the Buck selected listening for Aerosmith lps in order of pref.
    
    1 Rocks
    2 Get Your Wings
    3 Toys in the Attic
    4 Draw the Line
    5 Aerosmith
    6 Night in the Ruts (Right in the Nuts)
    7 Rock and a Hard Place
    8 Live - Bootleg
    9 Permanent Vacation
    10 Pump
    11 Done With Mirrors
    
    FWIW

    	
    	Aerosmith
   	Permanent Vacation   
	Rocks
    	Toys in the Attic	
	Get Your Wings
	Night in the Ruts 
 	Pump  
 	Draw the Line
 	Live - Bootleg
	Classics Live 1
	Classics Live 2
    	Done With Mirrors
    	Rock and a Hard Place
    

    
   
   Didier

    
    
    I must be missing something. IMO, Pump is by far their WORST album.
    Ijust can't get used to it.
    
    jeff

    Pump is bad, but nothing is worse than Done With Mirrors IMHO!
    
    Ted Templeman stinks as a producer, why they collaborated is beyond me!

    -1
    
    No, he is just an all around lame producer.

>    No, he is just an all around lame producer.

Uh-oh, buck - here we go again!  8^)

First off, I really like Ted's production. His VH stuff, and also his work 
with the Doobie Brothers, was killer! I think he has a good knack for 
capturing a band's live energy in the studio - not an easy task.

As for the Aerosmith stuff, well, I never understood why "Done With Mirrors" 
gets slagged so much (even by the band themselves!). I *like* that album!
"Darkness", "Sheila", "My Fist Your Face" - all pretty good tunes. The only 
one I was really disappointed in was the remake of "Let the Music Do The 
Talking", as Perry's orginal was the defintive version of that song.

Mind you, its not a *great* Aerosmith album. (In fact, it doesn't even sound 
much like the usual Aerosmith.) But I still like it.....

Oh, and while we're at it - I know that "Pump" had a lot of experimental stuff 
to it, but I don't like the tone of the lead guitar on "Janie's Got A Gun" at 
all! Yech!!!!

alan

    Geeesh Alan, wanna start a band?
    ;^)
    
    Ok...you are right...Ted does capture a great live feel onto tape.
    There are certain roles a producer can play, and approaches he/she
    can take.  I always felt that Ted's work was a bit too spontaneous
    sounding.  I'm not really from the '1st take or nothing' school of
    production...I'm not from the 'til you get it 100% correct' either...
    but..
    
    What am I trying to say here?
    
    I think Ted's arrangements and his 'sounds' to tape are a bit to
    rough for my personal tastes.
    
    I also agree that the writing isn't bad on DWM...Sheila, MFYF...they
    are great songs/grooves...but again I think that Templeman sound
    just grates my ears, and I don't think he really brought out the best
    inner workings of the Aerosmith core.
    
    I think his VH stuff is a lot more Don Landee and the band than him
    personally.  I donno, again just my stupid humble opinion! (JMSHO) 
    ;^)
    
    My ears go for more of the Jimmy Jam style production for dance stuff,
    and more of the 'european' production style for metal things.
    
    bye
    me

    On March 6th Aerosmith was inducted into Hollywoods Rock Walk on
    Sunset Boulevard..They were honered for two decades of music and
    sales of more than 30 million records.
    
    YYYYYYYYYYYYYYaaaaaaaHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!
    
                          Crazy_Al

    
    	Aerosmith "graces" the cover of the new Rolling Stone this
    	month.
    
    	Will Steve Tyler ever pose without his mouth closed?  Tune
    	in next time to find out.
    
    	[I doubt it, though.]
    
    							GTI
    

    
    The article in Rolling Stone is pretty good.
    
    Rae

    
    	>Will Steve Tyler ever pose without his mouth closed?  Tune
    	>in next time to find out.
    
    
    	This should read:
    
	Will Steve Tyler ever pose with his mouth closed?  Tune in
    	next time to find out.
    
    							GTI
    
    	[I sure picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue.]
    

    Caught the world premiere on MTV of the new "What it takes"video.(not
    the version of the "making of"What it takes".)
    
    It shows them ending an arena show,exiting the stage,and then entering
    a Cowboy bar.They're playing on a small stage,complete with a chicken-
    wire screen,no less.A brawl brakes out and guys are flying all over the
    place.At the end of the song it shows the band opening up another arena
    show.Not bad,not great.
                                  
                                      Crazy_Al

    Did anyone catch the WestWood 1 concert Sunday night. It was recorded
    in Philly and sounded excellent. This is the one tour since 1978 that
    I've missed the show, glad I caught it on radio!
    
                                                    SPEED BUMP!

    What station did you catch it on?Did they do any unusual numbers?
    I'm gonna try like hell to catch them at Great Woods.The Black Crows
    are gonna open                               ##
                                                #  #
                     Crazy_Al           	####
                                               #    #
    
                                               #    #

    The radio station was 101.1 in Greenville. They opened with "Same Old
    Story". All together 14 songs were covered. Alot of the concert was cut
    due to the length of the special (1 1/2 hrs) which included commericals
    after every third song. They did a blues number called "Red House"
    which is the same Red House that Hendricks recorded on his "Are You
    Experienced" album. Joe Perry Kicked As*.
     

Locally, this was broadcast on WGIR on Saturday night at 10:30pm, WHEB on 
Sunday night at 9:00pm, and on WAAF on Sunday night at 9:30pm!

I heard most of it, on and off. Sounded pretty good, although there seemed to 
be way too much from the last two albums and not enough of the older stuff. 
(And even when they did, I wasn't too thrilled, like with "Mama Kin"). 
"Permanant Vacation" sounded real good, and "Red House" was also ok, (although 
Perry hit some *really* bad notes at some points - *cringe*! But there were 
also some good licks in there also.)

alan

        A few months ago MTV had AEROSMITH Sunday. I did not find out about
    it until the following Monday. A friend of mine said there were
    good interviews with each member of the band and the show centered
    around the making of the "PUMP" album. I have been trying to find a
    copy of the special. Does anyone know where I can find one?
    
                                                              S.B

    In case anybody hasn't heard last nite at the second international
    Rock Awards Aerosmith won Artist of the year and Tyler won 
    MVP Male of the year. Steve and Joe presented awards and joined 
    in a megajam with Clapton and friends.It was a blues song.
    They were also nomenated in many catagories.
    
               Crazy_Al

    Damn, yet another good band bites the dust in a blaze of disgusting
    respectability.  Is nobody safe from these moronic and self-serving
    awards.


    GAZ

    Anybody going to the Great Wood shows this Monday and Tuesday?
    Good writeup in the Boston Herald today.They're gonna do a cover
    of the Doors"love me two times".Don't take a nutty,you hard core
    Door fans ;-).
    After touring the USA this summer,they'll head to Europe for
    three weeks.The night after their last gig in Paris,the band stops
    in Los Angeles long enough for an MTV performance.,then heads to
    Japan.
    With all this going on I won't say that they are"biting the dust
    in a blaze of disgusting respectability".
    
    
                                          Crazy Al
    

                  Hello!!
    
    
          I was wondering if someone could tell me what aerosmith's
    first 2 albums were.
    
                     I need to settle a bet!
    
    
                     Thank's Sharon
    
    please send mail to scoman::screamer
    

I would say :

AEROSMITH "Aerosmith"
AEROSMITH "Get your Wings"

Cheers,

Didier

    
    Aerosmith fans....Thursday night at 10 Aerosmith will be on MTV
    unplugged.  These shows are acoustic and usually really good just
    an hour of the band and their music.  All the unplugged shows I have
    seen in the past have been great.  Probably a not miss show for an
    aerosmith fan.
    
    I'll have my VCR going.  8^)
    
    Renee

    
    
    
    	how long is the program (unplugged)
    
    		wendy o'
    

    
    	Too long, if Aerosmith is on it.
    
    	[Hee hee!!]
    
    							GTI
    

    
    Give'm a break!  I'm sure they don't have the stamina like they used
    to in their youth.    ;^)
    
    SESOB

    They probably have a lot more stamina then we do, Chief...

    Anyway, for whoever asked, the show is half an hour long and they
    typically have two artists (or groups) featured.

    gh

    
    
    whoever asked!!???
    
    
    thanks i'll set my VCR...
    
    
    Wendy o'
    
    
    
    

    
    Wow!!!
    
    God I hope this goes out on MTV Europe too!!

    I watched it, and they weren't unplugged!  They were using electric
    guitars for chrissakes!!  It was an awesome performance though,
    dont get me wrong!
    
    < Ken >
    

    Yeah, a couple of bands have been "kinda" unplugged ... it was a cool
    show though ...
    
    Scary

    
    
    I was psyched that they did mostly older stuff instead of alot of newer
    stuff.  It was a good show.  The rockumentry before hand was a repeat
    but also very good.
    
    I can't wait for the video of the making of pump to come out.
    
    Renee

    A little late but never then ever-You folks(who are probably under 30)
    cut up AeroSmith because of their age---------
    Try to go thru what they have and come back on top--tryin their best
    not to sell out-----------------Hell_they never even wanted to make 
    their first vidio(Let the music do the talkin).Their record company
    made them----------
    
    Picture yourself in twenty years____________If you're a startin out
    musician__think about it----you'll probably never make it---
    But they scrounged and did(like many other bands}
    nd they are here kickin YOUNG ASSH*LoEs   Now
    
               Crazy_R+R_Survile_MY_FRIEND_AL
    
    All groups on"UN_PLUGGED"play with at least two instruments plugged in"

    
    
                           ------yawn.---------

    Yep ...

    Yo!!!
    
    -----------Aerosmith still RULES!!!!!!------------
    
    Wake UP!!!!
    
    Just my .02
    
    'April

    Yer Kidd'in right? Pump is a step down for men of their musical
    abilities. IMO. 

    
    	Maybe it has something to do with Joe Perry being more concerned with 
    	his image and stage presence than the music as noted in this months
    	Metals Edge. {not to imply that he doesn't give the music his 100% but 
    	maybe the priorities need adjustment.}
    
    	- Jim

    What did he say anyway?
    
    gh

    .175�    What did he say anyway?
    
    	That he lip-sync's better than Janet Jackson! :*)
    
    B.A.

    RE.173
    
    Sorry, Hernandez, but I have to strongly disagree with you!!!
    
    ---Maybe, you have to be a die hard Aerosmith fan, but I think _PUMP_
    is totally Rulin'!!!
    
            -granted their older stuff is better; but that's just because
    it's more familiar (i.e. Sweet Emotion & Walk This Way are classics)
    
    It's just a matter of opinion thow.
    
    Later 
    
    April
    

    I was being real, and yes, it is a matter of opinion. 
    
    >>        -granted their older stuff is better; but that's just because
    >>   it's more familiar (i.e. Sweet Emotion & Walk This Way are classics)
    
    I agree!  %^)
    
    Oh, welcome aboard.  |^)

    
    They should just give it up and retire. I'm sick of Aerosmith. It was
    great in High School, but after that I grew out of 'em.
    
    				~/~
    
    /prc

    I like all their stuff but hope that the one they're workin on now
    will be aliitle more like ROCKS.
    Has anyone bought/seen the"Making of PUMP" vidio?
    I see it's on sale for $16 at Strawberries.
    
             Crazy_Al

    Hey Pete, can ya be more specific?

    
    Yeah, they are LGTB wanna be's. Janies Got a Gun is the only decent
    thing they've put out in years!

    
    	Uh-oh....another one that didn't (tm) the LGTB....
    
    	tsk tsk..... =)
    
    	JJ who agrees with Jesse and Pete (ack!)
    

    
    	RE: they should give it up and retire...
    
    	Eh... I don't know about that.  I don't find Pump to be
    	the best thing they've put out, but I can take their
    	tunes more than I can take the likes of Kiss or the
    	Grateful Dead, Rolling Stones, etc. and they've been
    	around for ages, too.
    
    	FWIW... Janie's Got a Gun is the one song I absolutely
    		detested! (8  Go figure...
    
    	tigg~~~	

    RE.180
    Hey Crazy Al!  Yes!!! _The Making of Pump_ is Bad!!  You oughtta get it
    while it's still "new"!!  I have it & was not at all disappointed by
    it.  But then again; I paid $95 for my ticket when they came to town.
    ---I'd do almost ANYTHING for more Aerosmith pafafenelia(sp?)!!!  I've
    got enuff now, but hey -it's an addiction-!!!!
    
    U'r a cool dude, send me some more mail!!
    
    RE.184   
    Thanx Kim!!!!  I totally agree w/you!  What happened to Kiss anyway? 
    Why the Fu(k are they so lame these days? 
    
    
    PETE--
    
    If you don't like AEROSMITH, then why do you waste your time in this
    notes file?
    
    
    later!!!
    
    
    'April

    
> If you don't like AEROSMITH, then why do you waste your time in this
> notes file?
    
   	Well, this is not the Aerosmith conference. This is the Heavy
    	Metal conference. If what you are trying to say is, "why are
    	you in this note?" Then my answer is, my reply was about
    	Aerosmith, and belongs in this note.
    
    	/prc

    Pafafeneli? You need to (tm) that sucker.
    
    KISS is lame cuz they seem to be shooting for airplay. "Lets Put The X
    in Sex" , come on, lets put the ash in trash. Seems Aerosmith has been
    doing that recently. I agree wif Tigga on Janie's got a gun being lame. 
    Greg House, the resident BBHD(tm) told me that "Love in an Elevator"
    was the best song cuz "It's got a really neat beat and you can dance to
    it."
    

    Is this Renee Nicolazzo in someone else's account?!?! 
    8^)
    
    /Motorbreath

    
	RE: April
    	>Thanx Kim!!!!  I totally agree w/you!  What happened to Kiss anyway? 
    	>Why the Fu(k are they so lame these days? 
    	
    	Not to get off topic, but I think they've just plain run out
    	of lyrics!  At least Aerosmith is able to still find something
    	relatively decent to sing to and not the same old sex, sex,
    	sex" thing that Kiss seems to be doing. 
    
	tigga~~

    
    	>Not to get off topic, but I think they've just plain run out
    	>of lyrics!  At least Aerosmith is able to still find something
    	>relatively decent to sing to and not the same old sex, sex,
    	>sex" thing that Kiss seems to be doing. 
    
    
    	Yeah, like "Love In an Elevator".  ["Going doooooooown".]
    
    	[??]
    
    							GTI
    

    
    I've been listening to A-smith since dream on.  They are truley one of
    my fav's...But I must admit, when I heard PUMP for the 1st time I hated
    it. I said to myself, well I'll never listen to that again...(kind of
    like Plant, Now and Zen..but that's a different subject). Any way,
    after months and months of hearing Pump tunes on the radidio, I thought
    I'd give it another shot. It was a little a better then. But IMO there
    nothing will comapre to Rocks, Get you Wings, Toy's etcc........
    
    
    FWIW, JMO
    
    
    Jeff

    
    Draw the Line is an AWESOME tune!

    
    	Nugent's "Draw the Line" is better, IMO.
    
    	But to each his/her own.
    
    							GTI
    

    
    did he cover it? what lp?

    
	RE: Shawn
    	>Yeah, like "Love In an Elevator".  ["Going doooooooown".]
    	>[??]
    
    	I didn't say that Aerosmith didn't use the same tactics.
    	I just personally feel that Kiss has a more difficult
    	time coming up with new, original lyrics.
    
    	I happen to enjoy both bands when the mood strikes me.
    
    	tigga~~~    

  >>>after months and months of hearing Pump tunes on the radidio, I thought
                                                             ^
                                           (tm) that sucker  |            
    
    
    Radidio(tm) - What u use to "Diddybop" LGTB(tm) stuff.

   	Well, this is not the Aerosmith conference. This is the Heavy
    	Metal conference. If what you are trying to say is, "why are
    	you in this note?" Then my answer is, my reply was about
    	Aerosmith, and belongs in this note.                                   
    
    
    Well, exxxcccuuuuuuuuuusssssee  meeeeeeee!    No need to get offended
    guy!  Just wondering how anyone could be so -anti-AEROSMITH-
    
    C-ya
    'april
    

    	>relatively decent to sing to and not the same old sex, sex,
    	>sex" thing that Kiss seems to be doing. 
    
    that's what happens to perverts, right GTI? 

    
    re: -1
    
    Not offended at all. I just wanted to show the terms were a bit off.
    
    I'm not anti-aerosmith, I'm just a flamer sometimes. 8-)

    
    
    >>I'm not anti-aerosmith, I'm just a flamer sometimes. 8-)
    
    
     Uuuummmm Pete?... I think you might want to rephrase the last part of
    the above statement. 
    
    

    re: .187
    
>    Greg House, the resident BBHD(tm) told me that "Love in an Elevator"
>    was the best song cuz "It's got a really neat beat and you can dance to
>    it."
    
    Well, that's a giveaway, isn't it?  Everyone *knows* I only dance to
    Hammer...
    
    gh ("it's got a really neat beat and you can dance to it", indeed)

    Paul.... HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
    
    

    Well,I just found out that today is AeroSmith day on MTV..Ta Daaa
    I only put that station on about once a week--but I'll be catchin
    up to what they've been playin,thats new,today-scince A-Smith will
    be featured.Somehow I don't think I'll be seein too much
    new.UnoWhatImean.
    Good news is thwt they are gonna be showin the makin of Pump at
    Noon,3 and 6.(i tink).
    Last nite WCGY played the BOOTLEG album at midnite.
    I liked hearing it again----the neighbors didn't.
    Anyhoo,I'm glad that thier managment is poppin them up on the Radio
    and TV and Vidio,now and then while they are recordin.
    Should be back with new stuff by late summer...
    
         Crazy_��_all_Al

    
    
    re: 200
    
    	HA! thats exactly what I was gonna say!
    
    	JW

        RE: .200 & .204
        
        Yeah. . .he CARRIES a flamethrower ! :^)
        
        METALord"�

    
    	Yes, vintage Vietnam issue.

    No, vintage vagrant verbage. 

    That great trash Mag has done it again...
    The STAR magazine has an article how Tyler is going thru therapy for
    his sex addition.
    
         Crazy_Sh#T!_this_is_news?_Al

    NO.......STEVE DON'T DO IT....................
    
    I agree with Crazy Al, Steven shouldn't give up that vice...
    
     I guess he must be in love with his wife(she had to have made him 
    go!!)  
    
      He has more guts than me I'd never go........
    
               not even for a LICK AND A PROMISE!!!
    
                              Frizkid
    

    
    
    	Aerosmith may appear in a Simpsons episode, probably next season, 
    if their schedule permits them to do the voice-overs.
    
    
    Paul

    THAT WOULD BE TOOOO COOL!
           I can just hear Tyler goin "BBBAAARRRTTT"
    hahehay
    
                        Frizkid
    

    
    
    AWESOME!!
    
    I bet they find the time!!
    
    Homer and Marge meet Aerosmith!

Doooooooo!

    Hey boy,get Mr.Tyler a Butterfinger.

    Rumor out here has it that the boys are in the studio recording a new
    album slated for a fall release.
    
    Mike

    Gonna be hard to top `Pump' ....
    
    
    Scary

    
    I wish they'd hang it up already....%^)

    
          A E R O S M I T H RULES!!!
    
                SCARY.....I wouldn't worry about AEROSMITH theyv'e 
    done it before...............and they'll do it again!
    
           I'm soooo proud of them!!!
    
    
                        Frizkid
    

    
    
    Pump made them hit the UK top 40 but permanent vacation was better.
    
    
    
                                        Staynz

      I like em' all!
    
                  They do no wrong in my eyes!
    
                              Frizkid
    

    
    
    they hit Scotland during the Pump tour,the first time in 12 years.,
    
    
                                              Staynz

      Lucky for you!
    
                 Frizkid
    

    they were very good.....they had 50 strippers on stage  ;)
    
    
    
                                                Staynz

                Probably twice as many in the audience!!!
    
                     If I know my AEROSMITH concerts!
    
                      Frizkid
    

    
    
    	Read in the paper... Aerosmith may have a box set out sometime in
    October.  Included will be liner notes, a booklet, and previously
    unreleased material.
    
    
    	Paul 

    
    
    
                             C�.�L!
    
    'pwil

    Today is Joe Perry of Aerosmith's Birthday, fwiw

       No offence GTI but Joe is way more important!8*)!
    
              Aerosmith RULES!!!!!!
    
                       Frizkid
    

    
    	Like Rob Halford say, "You Don't Have to Be Old to Be Wise".
    
    	So there.  8^)
    
    							GTI

    -1
    
    You believe everything Rob Halford sez?
    
    
    Speaking of which, hey Mikey, you ever see Rob around the Phoenix
    area??

>    Speaking of which, hey Mikey, you ever see Rob around the Phoenix
>    area??
    
    Not at all.  Not that I hang around those places though.  He could live
    here for all I know. ;-)

    
    
    	Aerosmith's box-set is due out Nov. 10th.  "Sweet Emotion" might be
    the first single and there may be a video for it.
    
    
    Paul

    Regarding AEROFORCE 1,

    Have anybody received a news letter since May ???
    I (actually my wife) joined the AeroForce Fan Club and received a news
    letter (and something) this spring, but none has been sent after that...

    Shigeo (aero enthusiast in Japan...)

                        AEROSMITH INKS $30 MILLION DEAL
    
    - taken without permission from Rolling Stone magazine, Issue 614, 
    October 3rd, 1991.
    
    
    
    Aerosmith has signed a multi-album deal with Sony Music that appears to 
    be one of the most lucrative ever negotiated by a rock and roll band.  
    Sources sympathetic to Aerosmith indicate that the group is guaranteed 
    a minimum of $30 million, along with an exceptionally high royalty rate 
    of nearly twenty-five percent.  The deal puts Aerosmith in the company 
    of Michael Jackson, Janet Jackson and the Rolling Stones.
    
    Although the contract forbids both Sony Music and Aerosmith to reveal 
    the terms of the deal, a statement released by the company and approved 
    by Aerosmith described Sony's "commitment" as being "in the $25 million 
    range" and said the band would receive a "superstar royalty rate."  
    However, the $25 million apparently does not include several million 
    dollars the group received as a result of a renegotiated royalty rate 
    on its back catalog of albums recorded for Sony's Columbia label during 
    the Seventies and early Eighties.
    
    Aerosmith will not begin recording for Sony until it has delivered two 
    new studio albums, plus a greatest-hits anthology, to Geffen Records, 
    the label that brought the band back to the top of the charts over the 
    past few  years.  As a result, it is unlikely that Sony will receive 
    its first new Aerosmith album before 1995.  Sony is betting that 
    Aerosmith's next two Geffen albums will be successful and that the 
    group will still be popular in four years - at a point when some group 
    members, including lead singer Steven Tyler, will be nearly fifty years 
    old.
    
    "I think Aerosmith has just now approached the Led Zeppelin-Rolling 
    Stones level," said Michele Anthony, a senior vice-president of Sony 
    and a key player in negotiating the deal.  "We're betting on their 
    future.  There's nothing wrong with getting Aerosmith two records from 
    now.  The band has never been in better musical shape."
    
    Others in the industry, however, questioned the wisdom of the deal.  
    "You have to have a tremendous amount of belief in an artist and be 
    able to predict where music will be four years from now to make a deal 
    like that," said SBK Records chairman Charles Koppelman.  "I wouldn't 
    make a deal like that.  Aerosmith has had a great second life, but I'm 
    not so sure they'll be able to maintain it."
    
    Under the terms of the deal, Aerosmith will deliver four studio albums 
    to Sony.  The contract also provides for a live album and a 
    greatest-hits package.  According to various sources, Sony must sell 
    from 2 million to 2.5 million copies of each album to break even on the 
    deal.
    
    For Sony, the addition of Aerosmith to its roster has implications 
    beyond the albums the label expects to sell.  At present, Sony has no  
    major hard-rock acts, with the exception of the Rolling Stones, whose 
    deal with the company is almost up.  In recent years much of its 
    success has been with lightweight teenybopper, pop and dance acts like 
    New Kids on the Block, Mariah Carey and C & C Music Factory, 
    respectively.  Not only will Aerosmith give the label a much needed 
    hard-rock presence, but the group will be useful in attracting other 
    hard-rock acts.
    
    At Geffen, Aerosmith's record sales have steadily increased; its most 
    recent album, *Pump*, sold nearly 6 million copies worldwide.  "This 
    was the toughest decision we've ever had to make," says the group's 
    manager, Tim Collins.  "We love the people at Geffen.  But in the 
    Nineties, I need the depth of catalog that Sony has and the commitment 
    they've made.  We have a mission with this band, and nothing is going 
    to stop us.  We have a vision for Aerosmith as the greatest rock & roll 
    band."
    
    Collins apparently is sincere when he compliments the "people at 
    Geffen"; however, according to sources close to both the band and the 
    record company, Collins and David Geffen had a major falling out - a 
    situation that played a part in the band's decision to leave.  "Tim 
    Collins hates David Geffen," says a source close to Geffen.  "Aerosmith 
    will have a miserable time at Geffen.  If Geffen is putting out three 
    albums at the same time and, for instance, one was from Guns n' Roses, 
    another was by a hot act and the third was by Aerosmith, I could 
    imagine Geffen killing for Guns n' Roses and the other act and devoting 
    the time they have left over to Aerosmith."
    
    Although Geffen initially was in on the bidding for Aerosmith, label 
    president Ed Rosenblatt says that the company evaluated the numbers and 
    decided that the deal Aerosmith was after didn't make sense.
    
    "It got crazy," says Rosenblatt.  "We've been through a lot with the 
    group.  It's great to see all that they've done in terms of improving 
    their lives and their career.  But this is a business.  The numbers 
    were just too out of line.  And I can't understand why Sony decided to 
    to this - I just can't figure it out."
    

    
    RE: F. 
    
    I take it you read a lot of magazines... 
    
    
    8)
    
    Chris, who also reads a lot

    Thanks F.!!!!
    
            Where is that acticle from?
    
                         Frizkid
    

    Rolling Stone.

    
    	Do you want the page number? ^Z

    Sony gets their Wings!!!!!    ALRIGHT!!
    But---Can the Mighty "A" fly straight and proud for all the years
    to come�
    
           Crazy_I_HOPE_so_Al

        Yea.....
    
                  What is the page number?8)
    Does it have any way cool pictures of the boys like last time?
    
                           Frizkid
    

    I am incredibly pleased for Aerosmith, who are not my fav band but I do
    have a lot of respect for them!  However, I also hope that Sony got
    their sums right as this seems to be an awful lot of money to pay for a
    band that has seen their best years!
    
    
    
    GAZ

    I feel sure that Sony`s contract includes a clause which will allow
    them to dump Aerosmith if they decline in popularity in the next 4
    years or so.
    
    Joe Strummer.
    

    
    
    Yea..  the only music magazine I generally read is Rolling Stone..  I
    thought I put that in there????
    
    No pictures in the article!!  Its on page 15.
    
    
    Goddess

    You did F. i think Frizzzy-willy-pilly-nilly-wa-bang was bein' a wise
    gludious maximus. 
    
    
    
    Chris, who forgot to add nilly-milli-vanilli-wa
    

      I wasn't being a butt.  I honestly didn't notice it was from RS.
    
           I guess I was too excited to read about Aerosmith...
    
                    Frizkid
    

    
    s'okay, everyone misses things that are right out in the open all the
    time 8)
    
    I promise I won't mention Milli Vanilli in your name again... is that
    all right with you Frizzi-Villi Manilli, cause I wanna make sure
    
    
    Chris, who loves adding those things on his name

      Anything but Milli Vanilli if cool because I'm a fun lovin' guy!
    
                      So go for it!
           Frizkid..Who is too excited for Aerosmith that he missed the
    heading.
    

    
	I agree with a reply a few back, that is it would be good if Sony
    	would also sign some new bands.  Even as it stands though I don't 
    	think any new band be it popular or "new" in sound has much of a 
    	chance of becoming as popular as Aerosmith in four years so even 
    	if they put out material which is relatively not as good as their 
    	best the many fans will still buy it as well as newcomers, yea, 
    	that's right 13 and up or there-about-year olds.  Granted Sony
    	has to sell a fair amount of discs...
    
	Anyone know the details of the MTV 10th anniversary celebration at 
	the Wang Center or more specifically how it relates to Aerosmith?

	I heard something about them being filmed for a video or something 
	that night.  I believe the only way to get tickets is by winning 
	them from 'BCN like much like the way they did for their birthday 
	party back a few years at the Centrum.  I still think they sounded
	the best I had ever heard them that night.

	- Jim

	Howdy,

	Just went to Aerosmith's taping of "Dream On" for MTv's
	10th anniversary show at the Wang Center last night.  
	It was *GREAT*.  Me an' my buddy started off way up in 
 	the nosebleeds, but after two unexpected ticket upgrades 
	we were sitting in the tenth row.  Aerosmith's performance
	was incredible.  The set after they had finished taping 
	for "Dream On" was rather short, but they sounded 
	infinitely better than when I saw them at Great Woods last
	year.  The mini-concert features such songs as: Young Lust,
	Love in an Elevator, Big Ten Inch (Record) and Walk This Way.
	If any other HM noters were there, I'd sure like to know 
	whatcha thought of the show.

	-J
   

    I was there.. I thought the show was great. My wife and I were sitting
    up high in altitude. We came pretty close to getting ticket upgrade.
    WAAF took 4 people right next to us. I thought when they recorded the
    Ochestra alone was totally excellent. Imagine that.....Dream On scored
    for an entire Ochestra. They are all sounding so good these days. The
    mini show afterwards was cool. I love that tune "Last Child". I wish
    they played for a while longer. Its cool that they also do it to
    benefit the Boston Food Bank. The last 2 years they played we Got 
    backstage by bringing 100 cans per person...that was cool...My wife
    and I are into them alot. We run into Brad Whitford and Joey Kramer
    usually about once a month. We have bumped into Steven and Joe Perry
    several times at the cinema up from my house in Kingston,MA. Its funny
    because Steven will come in wearing the ussual Rock and Roll getup, but
    he wears a Bandana covering the bottom part of his face...like nobodies
    gonna recognize him....when the people spot him its like a mad rush..
    My mother-in-law works at the theatre so she brings them down to the
    theatre and helps to keep the crowd in control. I like that they are
    such a LOCAL band.
    
    Joey Kramer   Marshfield,MA
    
    Joe Perry	  Duxbury, MA
    
    Brad Whitford Duxbury, MA
    
    Tom Hamilton  Barnstable and Newton,MA
    
    Steven Tyler  Marshfield 
    
    I could keep rambling but I wont.
    
    
    /bob 

    The word is that the new Album is being recorded as we speak. They
    were slated to start recording on 8-1-91, but they were a little behind
    schedule. They didnt want to go far way to begin recording, because
    Brad's wife was pregnant. Now she's had the baby, they are going away to
    record. I can get the exact details if anyone is interested. Ive heard
    that the new material is just as good as Pump. Album should be out
    around March...with a tour started in the Spring. Joey K. was telling
    my mother-in-law that they are definitly doing a couple of shows at
    Great Woods.
    
    /bob

    I heard that they weren't going to record in Canada this time.
    I believe they're gonna do it in either New York or L.A.
    
                 Crazy_they_Practiced_and_made_demos_in_Cohassett_Al

    They are not going to record the album in Vancouver. They are recording
    in NY and LA.
    
    /bob

	I seem to remember hearing that the title of the new release
	was going to be Pandora's Box.  Think it's going to be one of 
	those greatest-hits type boxed sets.  I'm also pretty sure that
	the "Dream On" track will be the one that was just recorded
	at the Wang Center on Sunday.  If that's the case, you'll all
	be able to hear my debut in the music biz.  I'm the guy yelling
	in the audience.  

	-Spratty

    
    yeah, I knew two people in the front row...gonna be cool seein' them on
    Tv.
    
    Chris

	Did you go also.  I had been 3rd row (via 2 ticket upgrades), but
	then got booted back to row 10.

	-Spratty

    
    Nope.. not much of an Aerosmith fan. Like some o' there stuff, but I
    wouldn't actuallyu go to a concert.. 8)
    
    
    Chris

    
    Not even for *FREE* like *ME*????
    
    Spratty
    

    
    
    	Aerosmith will appear on the November 21st episode of the
    Simpsons.  They'll be performing "Walk This Way" at Moe's Tavern.
    
    	I called Moe's to get tickets but he was sold out.
    
    
    Paul

    WHat ? You mean in cartoon format ?

    
>>    	I called Moe's to get tickets but he was sold out.

Maybe Barney will sell you his ticket.  He's got a season's pass...

Tim

    
    Or Jaques Strapp. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAh
    
    {that episode killed me!}
    
    
    Chris

    
    
	>>Maybe Barney will sell you his ticket.  He's got a season's pass...
    
    	Yeah, I saw Barney the other day but I had to avoid him.  I'm afraid 
    I'll get sprayed by one his burps.
    
    
    Paul

     Does anyone have Pandora's Box yet?
    
                 I would have it already but I was forced not to buy it
    because of Christmas!
    
                     Frizkid
    

    I got it Frizkid!!

    RE-1
    
        Write me a big mail message and ruin all the surprises for me...
    
               PLEAZZEEEE........
    
                           Frizkid
    

    Can someone list some of the previously unreleased songs that are on
    Panadora's Box?Are most of them live?
    
                          Crazy_Must_be_good_Al

    
    	Unlike many box sets this one seems to do a real good job in having
    	a good mix of demos and live tracks that even some big fans may not
    	already have.  I can't recall the tracks.
    
    	- Jim

    I KNOW I'm getting this box set for Christmas......I give a review
    then!
    
         Is has 52 songs on it........
                                    Frizkid
    

    P'ril.....From one freak of nature to another....Thanx.
    
    
                 Crazy_informed_Al

    I figured Id post this for anybody who hasnt heard the story or doesnt
    know exactly what happened:
    
    On Wednesday, December 18th at about 9:00am, there was a fire at the
    Tyler residence in Marshfield, MA. It started in the kitchen. Everybody
    was ok. Steven's wife climbed down a fire ladder from the 2nd story.
    Being pregnant, shouldnt carry their daughter Chelsea down the ladder.
    She was dropped safely to someone below. Steven sustained a sprained
    ankle in his rescue attempt. He even went back in to save his cat. The
    house did not burn completely, but the water and smoke damage basically
    ruined the place. Im happy everyone was ok. If anyone knows differently
    from the above story, please comment. This information came from a
    conversation with one of the band members.
    
    
    /Bob

    I'm not a "true Aerosmith fan" but I found .271 very interesting.
    
    re Buck. 
    
    Toenail is really Woody Allen. Has anyone ever seen the two of them at
    the same time?

    HEY!!!!!!!!! What happened to April's note?
    
      I was reading it!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
             Frizkid
    

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		HERE IT IS!!!


Please read this, it took me a lot of time... 8)
    
        As promised, here is the complete song list, along with comments
        from the band members, from their new box set.
        
                                  PANDORA'S BOX
        
        Disc 1:
        	
        	1.  When I Needed You (2:34)
        
        		(Recorded by the group Chain Reaction, 1966)  
                        Says Steven, "I can't ever forget how excited I 
                        was about being in an actual recording band.  It 
                        was a total dream come true.  The other side of 
                        it is that it's a pretty lame song.  I never got 
                        a cent.  So that was my first taste of 
                        'shysterism.'"
        
        	2.  Make It (3:45)
        
        		(From the album "Aerosmith")  Tom says, "Our 
                        first song from our first album, and for a long 
                        time it was our show opener.  Just a great way to 
                        get things going."
        
        	3.  Movin' Out (5:42)
        
        		(Previously unreleased alternate version, from 
                        the album "Aerosmith")  Joe says, "We wrote that 
                        sitting on Mark Lehman's waterbed at 1325 
                        Commonwealth Avenue."  Steven says, "It's the 
                        first song we ever wrote together."
        
        	4.  One Way Street (6:59)
        
        		(From the album "Aerosmith")  Joey says, "I can 
                        remember Tom and me drillin' on the 'one way 
                        street shuffle' until we drove the old lady 
                        downstairs crazy.  Tom on his bass and me on a 
                        kitchen chair and a pedal on a cardboard box."
        
        	5.  On The Road Again (3:36)
        
        		(Unreleased rehearsal pre-production jam)  Joey 
                        says, "This was one of the first songs that we 
                        learned.  We played it at clubs and high school 
                        dances, and other than that, I have no 
                        recollection of the recording of it.  Needless to 
                        say where I was at the time."
        
         	6.  Mama Kin (4:25)
        
        		(From the album "Aerosmith")  Says Joe, "This was 
                        one that Steven brought with him from before 
                        Aerosmith.  Steven obviously loved that one - I 
                        mean, he did have it tattooed on his arm.  But 
                        when I first heard it I was afraid that the 
                        chords were too simple.  But inevitably the best 
                        ones are the easy ones."
        
        	7.  Same Old Song And Dance (3:53)
        
        		(From the album "Get Your Wings")  Says Joe, "I 
                        remember we were all living together again for a 
                        summer, and that was one of the songs we came up 
                        with.  I remember sitting on an amp in the living 
                        room of our place, and coming up with the riff 
                        for that one, and then Steven came up with the 
                        bridge."  Steven says, "Great horns!  Just a 
                        great groove song.  I'm always on the lookout for 
                        a song that grooves out.  A real classic Joe 
                        Perry riff. - I just filled in the blanks.  I 
                        hate to spell things out too much, but that was 
                        about one girl who was pulling on my guitar 
                        player's balls.  But that's not important."
        
        	8.  Train Kept A Rollin' (5:33)
        
        		(From the album "Get Your Wings")  Joe says, 
                        "This one was a standard.  All of us loved the 
                        Yardbirds' version.  This song was part of a 
                        common ground.  We all knew it and had played it 
                        before we got together.  Our version was pretty 
                        sterile on the album, but it was a great song for 
                        us to play, more our kind of thing than something 
                        like 'Roll Over Beethoven.'"
        
        	9.  Seasons Of Wither (5:39)
        
        		(From the album "Get Your Wings")  Joe says, "Of 
                        all the ballads, this is one I really like.  
                        Steven does them really well, but I never really 
                        liked us doing ballads at all.  I didn't want 
                        anything wussy on our records.  I always figured 
                        the only thing worth playing slow was a slow 
                        blues."  Steven says, "You know what Tuinals and 
                        Seconal are?  Well, I was eating those at the 
                        time, big time.  I was living with Joey Kramer 
                        near a chicken farm.  It was Halloween and I was 
                        really down.  So I went down to the basement, 
                        burned some incense, and picked up this guitar 
                        that Joey had found in a dumpster somewhere.  It 
                        was fretted pretty f*cked, and it had a special 
                        tone to it.  And that tuning forced that song 
                        right out.  I love that song.  The other day I 
                        was coming out of Mann's Theater in Los Angeles 
                        after a movie and on the curb there's a guy 
                        playing 'Seasons Of Wither' note for note.  What 
                        a trip."
        
        	10.  Write Me A Letter (4:18)
        
        		(Unreleased live version)  Brad says, "We 
                        arranged this one in the old Celtics locker room 
                        in the Boston Garden."
        
        	11.  Dream On (4:25)
        
        		(From the album "Aerosmith")  Steven says, "For 
                        me this song sums up the sh*t you put up with 
                        when you're in a new band.  Only one in fifty 
                        people who write about you pick up on the music.  
                        Most of the critics panned our first album, and 
                        said we were ripping off the Stones.  And I think 
                        'Dream On' is a great song, but it was two or 
                        three years before people really got a chance to 
                        hear it.  That's a good barometer of my anger at 
                        the press, which I still have.  'Dream On' came 
                        of me playing piano when I was about seventeen or 
                        eighteen, and I didn't know anything about 
                        writing a song.  It was just this little...sonnet 
                        that I started playing one day.  I never thought 
                        then it would end up being a real song or 
                        anything.
        
        	12.  Pandora's Box (5:42)
        
        		(From the album "Get Your Wings")  Joey says, "We 
                        were rehearsing up in New Hampshire, and I was 
                        living in Vermont.  I had this old piece of sh*t 
                        acoustic guitar that I'd found in the trash years 
                        before, and I came up with the riff on that.  I 
                        played it for Steven, and he went to work.  This 
                        one was a thrill for me because it was the first 
                        one I'd ever written."
        
        	13.  Rattlesnake Shake (10:28)
        
        		(Live radio broadcast WKRQ, Cincinatti, 1971)  
                        Says Tom, "This is just one of the defining songs 
                        in Aerosmith history.  That song, and our version 
                        of it, sort of put together the sound that all of 
                        us love to play."  Says Steven, "If there was one 
                        song that got me to play with Joe Perry - this is 
                        the song.  And the story goes...I had it up to my 
                        earlobes playing with these various bar bands 
                        from New York City.  It just didn't make it and I 
                        couldn't take it, so I jumped up from behind the 
                        drums, strangled the guitar player and hitchhiked 
                        to New Hampshire where I saw Joe Perry and Tom 
                        Hamilton playing in a club I had played so many 
                        times before with bands that just didn't have the 
                        groove that the Jam Band had that night.  The 
                        club was a b.y.o.b. called The Barn.  They were 
                        there - the Jam Band so out of tune, not really 
                        very good players, but the groove was so good 
                        that therein laid the magic.  You didn't have to 
                        be the greatest player - you just needed to have 
                        the groove and the attitude - they said it all in 
                        that one song - the attitude and the humor."
        
        	14.  Walkin' The Dog (3:13)
        
        		(Live radio broadcast WKRQ, Cincinatti, 1971)  
                        Joe says, "One of the early tunes we played in 
                        clubs.  It was on a lot of early set lists, and 
                        it still finds its way to one of our set lists 
                        sometimes now."
        
        	15.  Lord Of The Thighs (7:13)
        
        		("TEXXAS JAM" live recording, 1978)  Joe says, 
                        "This song was ahead of its time.  It sounds as 
                        good to me now as it did then, if not better."  
                        Steven says, "Was I Lord of the Thighs?  F*ck 
                        yeah."
        

        Disc 2:
        
        	1.  Toys In The Attic (3:05)
        
        		(From the album "Toys In The Attic")  Joe says, 
                        "A benchmark rock n' roll song for Aerosmith - 
                        that kind of fast tune that was always a favorite 
                        of mine.  This was sort of the first one.  There 
                        were many more to follow."
        
        	2.  Round And Round (5:02)
        
        		(From the album "Toys In The Attic")  Brad says, 
                        "I don't remember a whole lot about this one.  I 
                        just remember being in the Record Plant, and I 
                        had the main riff of that song.  It was one of 
                        those riffs that everybody said, 'We've got to do 
                        something with that.'  It turned into quite a 
                        production."
        
        	3.  Krawhitham (3:59)
        
        		(Previously unreleased instrumental, recorded 
                        1977)  Brad says, "That's the sound of Joey, Tom, 
                        and I, entertaining ourselves during the Draw The 
                        Line sessions while we were waiting for Steven 
                        and Joe to wake up and get their sh*t together."  
                        Tom says, "Usually, those two didn't even come 
                        down from upstairs.  So we'd drive our Ferraris 
                        around Armonk, New York for a while, then jam and 
                        record.  We had a good time, but then again we 
                        didn't." Joey says, "Unlike Tom and Brad, I'm a 
                        little confused over exactly when we recorded 
                        this.  But then it was a pretty confused time."
        
        	4.  You See Me Crying (5:12)
        
        		(From the album "Toys In The Attic")  Says Brad, 
                        "The majority of the song was constructed at the 
                        Record Plant in New York City.  Many long hours."
        
        	5.  Sweet Emotion (4:34)
        
        		(From the album "Toys In The Attic")  Steven 
                        says, "A lot of stuff I wrote in the old days 
                        just came out of anger.  'Sweet Emotion' was 
                        about how pissed off I was at Joe's ex-wife, and 
                        all the other frustrations of the time.  I could 
                        never get through to him.  To this day, he wears 
                        a lot of armor, but the music was always the 
                        saving grace.  And if that's the way he chooses 
                        to let me in, that's fine.  I just need to keep 
                        coming up with my own passwords to get in there."  
                        Tom says, "This one came at the very end of the 
                        Toys In The Attic sessions.  I had my part, but I 
                        was too shy to say, 'Hey, let's work on it'.  But 
                        somehow we had an extra day at the end, and Jack 
                        said, 'Anyone have anything we can jam on?'  And 
                        so this one made it at the last minute.  I 
                        remember showing Steven this riff a couple of 
                        times during the Get Your Wings sessions and he 
                        just didn't like it.  My immediate reaction was 
                        just to forget it.  But one day we started the 
                        riff at a different point, and it shed a whole 
                        new light on it.  But nothing happened with it 
                        till the next album, Toys In The Attic.  The rest 
                        is history.  It's still a song I'm very proud 
                        of."
        
        	6.  No More No More (4:33)
        
        		(From the album "Toys In The Attic")  Brad says, 
                        "This is one of the songs that I really liked 
                        where Steven does his little storytelling bit 
                        about life within the band.  It's him talking 
                        honestly about an interesting slice of the 
                        Aerosmith story."  Joe says, "I still love this 
                        song because of Steven's lyrics.  It's not one of 
                        those stupid, generic 'I love rock n' roll' songs 
                        that some bands do.  It's a real song about the 
                        rock n' roll lifestyle, or our rock n' roll 
                        lifestyle.  I don't know if it's the definitive 
                        song about life on the road, and I don't even 
                        care.  It's like a page from our diary."
        
        	7. Walk This Way (3:40)
        
        		(From the album "Toys In The Attic")  Says Tom, 
                        "We were rehearsing that riff, and I don't think 
                        Steven was even around that day as we practiced 
                        it and arranged it.  And that night we went with 
                        Jack Douglas to the movies and say Young 
                        Frankenstein.  There's that part in the movie 
                        where Igor says 'walk this way', and the other 
                        guy walks the same way with the hump and 
                        everything.  We thought it was the funniest thing 
                        we'd ever seen in our lives.  So we told Steven, 
                        the name of this song has got to be 'Walk This 
                        Way', and he took it from there."  Steven says, 
                        "I remember reading in a newspaper, in like 1976, 
                        and there's this article in there about how 
                        disgusting rock lyrics are, and they used 'Walk 
                        This Way' as an example of how lyrics should be 
                        nice and wholesome.  I couldn't believe it.  
                        Obviously, they didn't get the meaning of 'you 
                        ain't seen nothing' till you're down on the 
                        muffun'."
        
        	8.  I Wanna Know Why (3:04)
        
        		("TEXXAS JAM" live recording")  Tom says, "We 
                        were going down to the wire on Draw The Line, and 
                        a lot of stuff was coming down on Steven .  I 
                        always thought this song was Steven's reaction to 
                        all the sh*t he was getting into at the time."
        
        	9.  Big Ten-Inch Record (4:01)
        
        		("TEXXAS JAM" live recording)  Says Steven, "I 
                        was listening to a tape of Dr. Demento given me 
                        by an old friend of ours called Zonk, and I heard 
                        this song, which is originally from like 1936.  
                        The big rumor is that I say 'Suck on my big 10 
                        inch' on the record.  I don't.  I'm saying 'cept' 
                        - as in except - not 'suck'.  But no one in the 
                        whole world believes me."  
        
        	10.  Rats In The Cellar (4:06)
        
        		(From the album "Rocks")  Says Joe, "We needed an 
                        answer to Toys In The Attic.  We were getting 
                        lower and more down and dirty.  So the cellar 
                        seemed like a good place to go."
        
        	11.  Last Child (3:52)
        
        		(Remix of original version from the album 
                        "Rocks")  Says Tom, "I remember putting it 
                        together at the Wherehouse.  It was a big room 
                        with a high ceiling.  We hung up all these 
                        drapes.  We were basically like a bunch of kids 
                        building forts."  Says Joe, "This is an example 
                        of Aerosmith at our most funky.  I remember we 
                        were listening to stuff like the Meters."  Says 
                        Steven, "I always loved this one.  Just a little 
                        ditty that Brad brought in that became a hit."
        
        	12.  All Your Love (5:27)
        
        		(Previously unreleased, recorded 1977)  Tom says, 
                        "We weren't into covering like the hits of the 
                        day - we were just choosing the songs that we 
                        loved.  That's just a typical electric blues sort 
                        of thing form the Sixties.  We were formulating 
                        our style by who we covered."  Joe says, "This 
                        was one of those songs we all played in bands 
                        before we played together.  There were only a 
                        handful, because like Steven was playing the 
                        Abbey Road album while Tom and I were doing the 
                        MC5.  But we both were into ones like this and 
                        'Train Kept A Rollin'."
        
        	13.  Soul Saver (0:53)
        		
        		(Previously unreleased rehearsal, 1975)  Steven 
                        says, "The beginnings of "Nobody's Fault".  When 
                        you really listen to each other, and have a 
                        little perseverance, even a really sh*tty riff 
                        can become a great song."
        
        	14.  Nobody's Fault (4:22)
        
        		(From the album "Rocks")  Tom says, "One of a 
                        long string of Brad Whitford songs in the key of 
                        F-sharp."
        
        	15.  Lick And A Promise (3:05)
        
        		(From the album "Rocks")  Steven says, "This is 
                        one about going out and winning an audience.  
                        It's a tough thing to do.  It's one of our songs 
                        that's just a real moment in time."
        
        	16.  Adam's Apple (4:48)
        		
        		(Unreleased live version, 1977)  Steven says, 
                        "One of the greatest put together songs that 
                        Aerosmith ever did.  Those were my thoughts on 
                        UFO's, the theory of evolution, the monkey and 
                        Adam and Eve.  How incredibly naive to think that 
                        there were just those two people just buzzing 
                        around the woods naked, having a blast."
        
        	17.  Draw The Line (3:43)
        
        		(Remix of the original version from the album 
                        "Draw The Line")  Joe says, "One of my favorite 
                        riffs that I ever wrote.  It's a simple thing, 
                        but so are most of the ones that stick to you."
        
        	18.  Critical Mass (4:51)
        
        		(From the album "Draw The Line")  Tom says, "I 
                        remember writing it on the bass like 'Sweet 
                        Emotion', then writing a guitar part around it.  
                        In those days we'd always record the basic track 
                        without any idea what the song was about.  And I 
                        thought the song was bizarre at first, but I came 
                        to really like it.  It's like a chant with a 
                        great production."
        

        Disc 3:
        
        	1.  Kings And Queens (5:31)
        
        		(Unreleased live version, 1978)  Steven says, 
                        "I've always had a fancy to do songs about 
                        anarchy and the church and the government.  This 
                        is not the only one - there's also something like 
                        'St. John.'  The band comes up with the licks, 
                        and then the music talks to me and tells me what 
                        it's about.  This one was just about how many 
                        people died from holy wars because of their 
                        beliefs, or non-beliefs.  With that one, my brain 
                        was back with the knights of the round table and 
                        that sh*t - I do a lot of fantasizing."
        
        	2.  Milkcow Blues (4:14)
        
        		(From the album "Draw The Line")  Tom says, "This 
                        one goes all the way back to when Joe and I were 
                        in the Jam Band."
        
        	3.  I Live In Connecticut (0:56)
        		
        		(Previously unreleased, recorded 1979)  Joe says, 
                        "On a boxed set there's room for some weird 
                        stuff, I guess."
        
        	4.  Three Mile Smile (3:44)
        		
        		(From the album "Night In The Ruts")  Brad says, 
                        "Both Jimmy and I recorded solos for this song.  
                        Steven liked Jimmy's solo better and his is the 
                        one that you hear on the record, and I'm still 
                        pissed about it."
        
        	5.  Let It Slide (2:54)
        
        		(Previously unreleased, recorded 1979)  Says 
                        Steven, "This shows what a song is like in the 
                        beginning (in this case, 'Cheese Cake'), and what 
                        it can become.  And that's a big part of being a 
                        band - building something up from a riff."
        
        	6.  Cheese Cake (4:15)
        
        		(From the album "Night In The Ruts")  Says Joe, 
                        "The song was done in one take with no overdubs.  
                        When I played that track I went from a regular 
                        6-string to a lapsteel and back, live in the 
                        studio.  Even though the band was falling apart 
                        in every other way, it was a testament to how we 
                        were playing."
        
        	7.  Bone To Bone (Coney Island White Fish Boy) (2:59)
        
        		(From the album "Night In the Ruts")  Steven 
                        says, "A Coney Island White Fish is a scumbag.  
                        When you lived by the Hudson River like I did, 
                        you always saw these things floating by on their 
                        way to sea.  They were rubbers - guys would tie 
                        'em up and they'd just keep floating.  And that, 
                        boys and girls, is a Coney Island White Fish."
        
        	8.  No Surprize (4:26)
        
        		(From the album "Night In The Ruts")  Steven 
                        says, "It's ironic that most of the songs that we 
                        did that tell the true story of the band end up 
                        on some back burner album so people didn't really 
                        hear 'em.  This is one where I just spell it all 
                        out - and it's also a pretty damn good song."  
                        Joe says, "This was one of the real good ones 
                        from Night In The Ruts.  If we'd been more 
                        together that might have been the album where we 
                        took what we'd done on Rocks, but we were too 
                        f*cked up to really pull it all together, and to 
                        support it.  That's one of the reasons I left 
                        around then."
        
        	9.  Come Together (3:44)
        
        		(From the album "Greatest Hits")  Joe says, "It 
                        was really cool to be in the studio with George 
                        Martin.  You always wondered what it would be 
                        like to be in the studio with one of the Beatles, 
                        and he was sort of the fifth Beatle.  It was kind 
                        of intimidating, but we weren't too easily 
                        intimidated in those days."
        
        	10.  Downtown Charlie (2:35)
        
        		(Unreleased jam, recorded 1978)  Joe says, 
                        "'Downtown Charlie' just sounds like one of our 
                        drunken jams."  Brad says, "A lot of times in the 
                        studio, boredom sets in and I try to stir things 
                        up with a little R&R off-the-cuff stuff.  Most of 
                        the time they would never go anywhere, but 
                        occasionally the band would catch on.  This is 
                        one of those rare moments, a complete 
                        free-for-all jam, that we discovered on a tape 
                        when we were putting this boxed set together."
        
        	11.  Sharpshooter (5:29)
        
        		(From the album "Whitford/St. Holmes")  Says 
                        Brad, "'Sharpshooter' was one of the first songs 
                        that Derek and I came up with.  I actually wrote 
                        it while I was still with Aerosmith, but we just 
                        never did anything with it.  When I got together 
                        with Derek, we put it together in about a half 
                        hour."
        
        	12.  Shit House Shuffle (0:35)
        
        		(Previously unreleased, recorded 1979)  Joe says, 
                        "At first I thought, who's gonna be interested in 
                        this?  But then I figured maybe someone will get 
                        something out of it."
        
        	13.  South Station Blues (4:10)
        
        		(From the album by The Joe Perry Project "I've 
                        Got The Rock N' Rolls Again")  Joe says, "Another 
                        example of me insisting I can sing."
        	
        	14.  Riff & Roll (3:16)
        
        		(Unreleased jam, recorded 1981)  Joey says, 
                        "Always thought it was a great song, but we never 
                        got around to using it.  As a matter of fact, I 
                        still like it."
        
        	15.  Jailbait (4:38)
        
        		(From the album "Rock In A Hard Place")  Tom 
                        says, "This is a Jimmy Crespo riff.  This song 
                        really made us feel like we had one in the 
                        pocket.  It seemed impossible to hear it without 
                        getting blown away."  Joe says, "Even though I 
                        wasn't around for that song, I think it's pretty 
                        hot.  I would have done it a little differently, 
                        but if anything I'm a little jealous that I 
                        didn't play on it."
        
        	16.  Major Barbara (5:05)
        		
        		(Previously unreleased alternative version, 
                        recorded 1971)  Joey says, "I always thought this 
                        was velvety smooth."
        
        	17.  Chip Away The Stone (4:06)
        
        		(Previously unreleased version, recorded 1978)  
                        Tom says, "It's a Richie Supa song that we always 
                        thought was going to be a single.  It's sort of a 
                        pet song, but he public never seemed to like it 
                        quite as much as we did."
        
        	18.  Helter Skelter (3:13)
        
        		(Previously unreleased, recorded 1975)  Tom says, 
                        "I don't remember much about this one, but it 
                        certainly sounds pretty cool."
        
        	19.  Back In The Saddle (4:40)
        		
        		(From the album "Rocks")  Joe says, "To me this 
                        is the kind of riff and instrumentation that 
                        falls outside the normal formula of a rock song.  
                        I wrote it on a six string bass.  It was one of 
                        those songs that really opened things up for us."
        
        
        
        Well that's it, folks.  I now have arthritis, thank you.  FWIW, I 
                        hated writing "Joe says," and "Says Steven," OVER 
                        and OVER, and OVER...but you gotta know who says 
                        what...
        
        hope ya enjoyed it as much as I didn't!  ;)
        
        'pril
        

    Sorry Frizkid!
    
    I had to change a few four letter words, even though they WERE in
    quotes...
    
    'pril

    CONGRATS to Brad Whitford and his wife Karen on the birth of son:
     Graham Everett.
     The band's next studio album is expected out next summer!!
    BTW-I DID GET THE PANDORA'S BOX SET FOR CHRISTMAS!!! PSYCHED!
    
                 Frizkid
    

    Aerosmith will record their next album from January to March in L.A.
    with producer Bruce Fairbarn.  The band already has 20 songs to choose
    from for the album, due out in late spring/early summer.
       Hint: They might make an appearence on In Concert before the summer
    tour.
                      Frizkid
    

Won't be the same on TV.  You have to see Steven and Joe in person...

Tim

    AMEN..TO THAT!
    
            Frizkid
    

        >                 -< Their amazing........... >-
        
    WENDY*Ospell(tm)!

    A_SMITH AND EXTREME are gonna be nominated at this years Boston
    Music Awards.(suprize,suprize...NOT!)
    Even thou A_SMith are busy recordin in LA,some members should be
    there to represent the band..
    
                   Crazy_next_month_Al 
    
         

    
    taken without permission from Rolling Stone magazine, issue 627.
    
    
    NOTABLE NEWS
    
    
    AEROSMITH singer STEVEN TYLER and his wife, Teresa, had a son, Taj
    Monroe, on January 30th.  Not to be outdone, Tyler's band mate bassist
    TOM HAMILTON announced that he and his wife, Terry, adopted a baby boy,
    Julian Forrest, one week later, on February 6th.
    
    
    
    
    Goddess F.

    The latest word on these guys is that.....they have pretty much
    finished up with the recordings....they have alot of fine tuning
    to do...I guess they were not 100% happy with the material and
    understand the strength it needs to carry as a followup to Pump.
    This information came from Brad Whitford....The album should be
    out around the holidays...but maybe sooner!
    
    Bob

    Which holidays ?  Fourth of July ?  Arbor day ?
    
    Jerry

    Yeah....I was a bit vague....Holiday=Thanksgiving-Xmas..Ill be talking
    to one of Brad and Joe Perry's good buddies this friday. Ill post
    more information when I find out.                          
    
    Bob

    BobSmith: Right on!!!!!!!!!! I'm stoked!!!!!!
    Keep us updated....
    
         Frizkid...(wondering in his mind what it would be like to TALK 
    to Aerosmith)
    

    BoB_got_his_wings;;
    This is good news.I guess the Producers will drool over the tapes
    for the next 5 months and really polish then up.I just hope they
    don't over do it.If It comes out soundin like a Def Leppard album
    I'll(personally)Hurl.....But I have faith.
    Hope the song"Sniffin"makes it to the album.
    
    Re Friz;;
    How does one get"Stoked"??
    I'm willin to try almost anything once...But being in the state of
    "Stokededness"sounds....well......painfull.
    
    
                   Crazy_?_Al
                           
    

>         Frizkid...(wondering in his mind what it would be like to TALK 
>    to Aerosmith)

Been there.  Done that.

(Of course, this was back in the days when Steve was passing out on stage
and Joe was too introverted to talk to anyone, least of all the lighting
guy for the warm-up act.  I hung out with Joe a couple of times at the
Channel during the "project" days.  I was free-lancing lights for Gary Shane
at the time and Gary hung with Joe quite a bit.  We're talking circa '83-84.)

I sure am glad that they got their s__t back together.  "Pump" is going to
be one hard act to follow but, knowing those guys, they'll come back
kickin' @ss.

-- 
Kevin

    HA!HA!HA! My hair is longer than Steve's hair. 8P
    
       Plus when I talk to somebody of this magnatude I would NEVER come
    off like an idiot.
    
     Crazy?Al: Well...It is a little painful but a very cool feeling!
        I think you would do better for a female to show you "STOKED".
    You'd have better luck.....8)
    
          Friz_Try it ya might like it_Kid
    

    >   Plus when I talk to somebody of this magnatude I would NEVER come
    >off like an idiot.
    
    You probably wouldn't, but they may...
    
    Buck, who remembers talking to them in the "drug" daze

    The music for the Aerosmith album is completed. Steven is having
    problems coming up with lyrics...The guy?? who assisted with the Pump
    album came in and told Steve that some of the lyrics had to be changed
    in order to make the song a hit. Currently all of the members are 
    back at home in MA and Steven is working his *ss off to finish up the
    lyrics.
    
    Bob

>    The music for the Aerosmith album is completed. Steven is having
>    problems coming up with lyrics...

Hee hee.  I've heard *that* story before.  The music is always done before
Steven finishes the lyrics.

>   The guy?? who assisted with the Pump
>    album came in and told Steve that some of the lyrics had to be changed
>    in order to make the song a hit. Currently all of the members are 
>    back at home in MA and Steven is working his *ss off to finish up the
>    lyrics.

John Kalodner (sp?) is a good friend of the band and has been helping
them out for quite a while.  He isn't a producer or engineer, per se,
he just goes into the studio with them and guides them when necessary
and kicks their butts when necessary.  He quite frequently helps Steven
smooth out lyrics that might otherwise prevent a song from getting
radio airplay, let alone being a hit, if you get my drift.  The way
Steven originally wrote "Jamie's got a gun", he had a gratuitously
filthy line in the song.  Kalodner made him change it because he heard
hit potential and didn't want the song to be banned from radio.

I think it's kinda nice to have a mentor like that.

-- 
Kevin

    I overheard somethin on the radio that Tylers X_wife went to court to
    get him to make some back payments on the house she and their daughter
    live in.I recently saw their daughter on a show called"Hard Copy".
    It's one of those Tabloid shows.Seems shes gettin into modeling.
    I think shes only 13 years old.
    
            Crazy_the_resemblance_is_"Scary"_Al
    
                              but natural

    
    	It's his ex-wife?  I didn't catch that part.  Her last
    	name is Talarico....
    
    	Heard this morning that Aerosmith donated $10k to MIT
    	for an art exhibit that was refused by someone else for
    	funding because of the nature of the art.....must be
    	risque.
    
    	JJ
    

    JJ: Steven's real last name is Talarico.
    
     The art has p*bic h*ir in it! Aerosmith said they like to support
    free-think artist such as themselves.
    
              frizkid
    

	I think it's great that they support causes to promote "free-think"
	but I wish they would support themselves...when I hear stuff about
	changing lyrics because a song might otherwise risk wide airplay or 
	be a "hit"...ahhh.....

	- Jim

    Yeah,but Jim,You know alot about the music Industry but,as you know
    these guys know it inside_out!Don't forget...Tyler has people help
    him work on some of his lyrics so they will be"commercially correct".
    
    
                       Crazy_but_you_knew_that_Al

    
    
    	re: Friz
    
    	Oh!  I didn't know that.  Learn something new everyday I
    	guess!  =)
    
    	JJ
    

    Yeppers.....But I guess he's lame for changing his name.  8P
    
                  Frizkid
    

>	I think it's great that they support causes to promote "free-think"
>	but I wish they would support themselves...when I hear stuff about
>	changing lyrics because a song might otherwise risk wide airplay or 
>	be a "hit"...ahhh.....

Well, if they paid no regard to whether or not their songs were playable on
the radio then they wouldn't be huge megastars and they wouldn't have the
$$$ to help out other struggling artists.  It's real nice to see big stars
like these guys who haven't forgotten their roots.

Artistic integrity is one thing, putting food on the table is another.
It is possible to strike a balance between the two by toning down lyrics
that are needlessly "obscene."

In the case of "Jamie's Got A Gun" the change was very subtle.  Steve's
meaning is still there, he just changed a dirty word that you can't use
on radio.  The song is, if I remember correctly, about a very touchy subject
to begin with:  a woman who murders her abusive husband after he does
something unmentionable to their small child.  The "unmentionable" thing
is the word that Steve changed to prevent the song being banned on radio.
An astute listener can still figure out what's going on.

-- 
Kevin - "It takes balls to write a song like that."

    Good call Kevin!!!!!   I agree totally!
    
     FWIW-The girl that was sexually abused killed her Dad in "Janie's got
    a gun".  The Mother ignored the problem.
    
               Frizkid
    

	I actually agree too with what you said in cases like that particular
	song...my comment was not meant to be negative in anyway to them I was
	primarily trying to say bands that go the route for bubble gum pop
	hits rather than something more creative or interesting that they're
	probably capable of doing. The argument for bread on the table 
	I don't think factors in for established bands as much as it does 
	for new bands that might cross over since they're particular art
	form may only be of interest to enough people to eat occasionally.
	As for their roots they still remain the one band who has definitely
	stuck by this and still seem to maintain that BIG local band style,
	even with Perry played the rat, etc....a while back it was as if he
	was just some new local band playing the circuit.

	As well sticking to the original comment I don't recall mentioning 
	that song specifically (or maybe I missed earlier comments) but in 
	general any band that goes for the hit (is that a science) over 
	doing what they want to do.  I'd say bands like Pete and many others fit 
	the example, hardly bubble gum posters.  A bit of best of both worlds
	not too limited a potential audience but yet not watered down.

	Actually the reason I came back here was to see if anyone has heard
	the re-braodcast that 'BCN (it's been on before) played a couple
	weeks ago of their early club show at Boston Paul's Mall.  The club 
	was located some where on Bolyston before my time..
	Tom P. you out there?

	- Jim

    The BILL OF RIGHTS ACCORDING TO ****AEROSMITH****
    
    Freedom to give somebody a little head(Inser a little head)
    Freedom to get clean(Insert two dogs licking each other)
    Freedom to make love in an elevator
    Freedom to cruel and unsual punishment
    Freedom to INHALE
    Freedom to use handcuffs for friendly purposes
    Freedom to wear whip cream as clothing
    Freedom to use bodily fluids for art supplies
    Freedom to play your music loud
    
     Freedom to choose what to choose...Vote..Even if it's for the wrong
    person.
    
     Vote...The freedom to wear a rubber all day---if necessary.
    
            Friz
    

    I loved the "bodily fluids for art supplies" part where they start
    pissing all over a canvas...too cool.  
    
    'pril

Rumor Du Jour: Aerosmith will be playing a New Year's Eve concert at the 
               Boston Garden this year. And Extreme will complete the double 
               bill!!!

More factual: the release date for the band's next album is February 14th.

alan

    Alan...you will keep up posted on the aerosmith rumor won't you??...
    i saw their last new years eve show at the garden with the skid kids...
    pretty awesome night all around...complete with limo etc.....we stayed
    just above steve tylers room at the Four Seasons....and he had a party
    after the show..........would love to do it up like that again.!!.........
                                               /k

    
    What's the name of the new album?  I heard Mark Parenteau talk
    about it a couple of weeks ago but I forgot. :-(
    

    Maybe I should move to MAss....Seeing Aerosmith on NYE would be MORE
    THAN ENOUGH inspriration for it. 
    
       Friz<
    

    
    ANOTHER NYE arerosmith show?!?!?!?  forget it!  i have better things to
    do on NYE than go see tar_pits tyler.
    

Steven Tyler is not the Tar  pits.  That guy has more energy (and pipes) than
anyone half his age!!!  The last time I saw them he went nonstop for over
two hours.

I'd concede he was in the tar pits in the late 70s early 80s...

Tim

    
    come on, he lives next door to iron maiden :').  they still have energy
    too, but face it, he's a fossil.  pretty soon, he'll just turn to oil. 
    
    :')
    

    
    Phew!  After seeing a couple of "Dropped from their label" notes,
    I was somewhat apprehensive when I saw "Aerosmith" appear at the
    top of my screen.  Naaahhh.... Never happen.
    
    Tyler was definitely in the pits in the early to mid '80s.  He
    had a serious monkey on his back.  (Surprise!  You mean you
    didn't know that the song  "Monkey on my back" was Steve singing
    about himself?!?!)
    
    Heck, I even saw him pass out on stage at the Channel once after
    Joe Perry left and they had that new guy from NY who absolutely
    ST00LED.  Their set was about 4 songs long that night and then
    Tyler was down for the count.
    
    Now they've all got themselves cleaned up - no more booze, no more
    drugs and they're kicking some serious @ss again.
    
    -- 
    Kevin

    > forget it!  i have better things to
    do on NYE than go see tar_pits tyler. 
    
     AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!
    I've been stabbed!
    
     Friz
    

  >  come on, he lives next door to iron maiden :').  they still have energy
  >  too, but face it, he's a fossil.  pretty soon, he'll just turn to oil. 
    
   Thats right .... he keeps getting more "valuable" as he goes on!!
                                                                 Rat

    
    	Steven Tyler?  That dude looks like an UGLY lady.  8^)
    
    							GTI
    

    Now...Now....I've seen a picture of you and you ain't no eye candy
    either. 8)
    
     Friz
    

    ...i think he's tremendously sexy.................../k

    I think he looks like Carly Simon in men's drag.

    
    You're just jealous...
    

    
    I think he's the most gorgeous man I've ever seen and would love to see
    him naked!
    
    
    
    
    
    
    Hahahahahahahah Gotcha!
    
    He's sick!
    
    ;')
    
    

    Honey, someone left the closet doors open again!!
    8^)
    
    
    Anyone rememebr the Bugs Bunny where he put the spring on his neck and
    the plates in his mouth??  Fackin riot!!

    
    	RE: Mike Heiser
    
    	You're on a roll today.  8^)
    
    
    >Ok, who put the exit sign in Chris's closet?
    
    	Or the entrance sign on his Levi's.  8^)
    
    
    	RE: /k
    
    	I think you're tremendously sexy, too.  Wanna do it?
    
    							GTI
    

    
    
    >>	I think you're tremendously sexy, too.  Wanna do it?
    
    	HA! I'm rollin'!
    
    
    

    
	RE: Buck
    	~Anyone rememebr the Bugs Bunny where he put the spring on his 
    	~neck and the plates in his mouth??  Fackin riot!!

    	hahah!  That's what I was thinking when he mentioned the plates
    	in the mouth thang. (8  
    	
    	RE: GTI
    	~Or the entrance sign on his Levi's.  8^)
    	~I think you're tremendously sexy, too.  Wanna do it?
    
    	Bwahahahahahahahahah!!!!  Too funny!
    
    	tigg~~~~

    >I think you're tremendously sexy, too.  Wanna do it?
    
    
    That would be like a weasel trying to screw a swan!!

    
    	the last few
    
    	bhahahahahahgiggleaababababaasnortahahahahahaaa!
    
    	ahem.  too funny guys....
    

    
    	RE: Buck
    
    >That would be like a weasel trying to screw a swan!!
    
    
    	I admit that /k's a sly devil, but I wouldn't call her a weasel.
    
    	8^)
    
    							GTI
    

>    ...i think he's tremendously sexy.................../k
    
    He thinks so too...

    ...i believe there has been a terrible misunderstanding
    here!.......either that or incredible wishful thinking on Shawn's
    part........my guess is the latter......................;")......./k

    Steven Tyler IS tremendously sexy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                                                         Rat

    To_Sexy_Fer_This_Conference????

RE: Natalie

BOGUS !!

He does have BJ lips tho...

Hmmm...

    hey,steady on there.......!
    
    
    
                                               Staynz

    
    Getting back to .318, (almost a month ago) does anyone know what
    the name of the new album will be?  I knew it but I forgot.
    

    
    The New Album is called:
    __________
    Get A Grip
    ----------
              
    It'll be out in mid-February.
    
    

    I talked with Brad Whitford the other day....Late Feb- Early March
    release...
    
    Bob

    
    You damn celebrity....
    
    ;')
    
    

You're one to talk...   Nuno dinner boy

    
    :') :')
    
    reminds me of someone we all knew.....
    
    'i just bumped into X the other day at the music store and he says it's
    cool you all loved his show'
    
    

    Who might that be.........
    
    
    :*)

    
    
    Ahhh shaddup, he'll get here eventually...
    
    

    
    Re: late Feb. - early March for release of "Get a Grip"
    
    Schedule slip, eh?  I originally heard early Jan., but that
    was several months ago.
    
    Oh well... I don't mind waiting too much.  The results will be
    worth it.
    

    you saw prc in a music store?

    
    Anybody hear the new single yet? 
    

    I've heard"Livin_On_The_Edge" twice To_Day.
    Not a Heavy Rocker.Nice Harmonies.It doesn't even sound like Tyler
    at the Beginin of the Song.CD Re_Lease is April 20th..
    
    
                  Crazy_Yeah_Al

    Not a heavy rocker?  I thought they were going back to their old
    "Rocks" style on this album!   Maybe it's not typical of the rest of
    the songs.
    
    |KS|
    

I heard it too.  Lots of harmonies.  I had heard that this album would be
heavier.  So why start out with a magic106 type song?

    
    
    I only heard it once on my staticy radio...Who is that singing at the
    begining??? Joe????  gotta hear some more. 
    
    Jeff_who_would_love_another_ROCKS_type_album

    I heard there are two versions of the single -- an acoustic one
    (which AAF has been playing) and an electric one...  Maybe the
    former is the answer to the "softness" of it??

    I just heard this and I LOVE IT!!!  Chris is right about the
    beginning not sounding like S.T., but I thought this was *excellent*!!!
    
    						Rat

    Who you Callin Chris????
    
    
         Crazy_Fightin_Words_Al

    Ok, so I wasn't paying attention....geez, sue me!!! ;-)

    RE: .357
    
    Hey, |Kenny_G_Spot|; yes, I heard "Livin on the Edge" on my way home
    from work this evening and I was struck by the fact that it sounded
    like it could have been a track from the White Album or Sgt. Pepper...
    Then, what TOTALLY amazed me, is that I went to the store 2nite to buy
    the current US Magazine, which has a GREAT interview with Tyler in it..
    and Tyler says (like, I freaked out when I read it) that when they
    wrote "Livin" that he felt like John Lennon was in the room...
    
    Sister_can_u_say_"wavelength"_t.

    I love this tune!
    
    SueJ Who's sueing who??? 8)

    
    Sounds pretty generic to me.
    
    

    I heard the end and was unimpressed.
    ;'(

I heard the end at lunchtime and was not impressed, but the beginning is
definitely better...  Starts out harder then softens at the end.

Tim

I also heard it yesterday, and thought it was pretty mediocre. Sounds a lot
like another Desmond Child co-writing job..... 

alan

    re: Desmond Child co-writing
    
    Blek-o! 
    
    gh

    I thought the song was amazing. IMHO There is a CD out now that has
    Living on the edge (electric
    Living on the edge (acoustic)
    Living on the edge (early demo) and 2 other unreleased songs, 1 that
    was writter by tyler,perry,jack blades and tommy shaw. The new album
    cover is supposed to be of a cows utter(sp?) with an earring through
    on of the teats(the part that squirts milk)

    I heard that today on the radio........wasn't too impressed!
    
    
                                               staynz
    
    ps....its called an udder!

    And you would certainly know...../bonzo
    
    B-}

    more than you farty breath!Your touble is you dinna ken shite!
    
    
                                             staynz  ;^)

 >   more than you farty breath!Your touble is you dinna ken shite!
                                                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    
    I don't know what language this is, but it's not true!  I don't have
    shite for dinner!   :')
    
    Kenny_G_Spot
    
    

    um.....Ken,that statement that I made was in the native tongue of Bob
    Irvine and I and has nothing to do with dinners!It basically means
    "you don't know shite!"    8)
    
                                         

    .........watched the new Aerosmith vid. last night complete with nudey
    Steve Tyler et al.The video is way far better than the song but the
    ending with the car crash is completely stupid.Thats not living on the
    edge.......................that Russian Roulette with cars!
    
    
    
                                                  staynz

    Tried that once, coulldn't get my XR in the chamber though.
    
    Arf arf, etc.. etc..
    -Tony

    
    
    I Heard 4 Cuts off the"Get_A_Grip"Disc To_Day.AAF is playin it up.
    I heard"Shut_Up and Dance","Eat_The_Rich","Gotta Love_It"and the
    Title Cut.  All songs had The Guitar_Sound Standin OUT!!!
    The Riffs and Rhythems were Rather"Funky".Not Heavy_Metal.
    
    
     Crazy_This_One_Might_Take_A_While_To_Grow_On_Me_(If_All)_AL

    Yeah, I heard some of it last night on AAF.  I remember one song being
    really good, but a lot of the others weren't so hot.
    
    I wish they had their raw sound still.
    
    |KS|
    

    I heard the entire album (13 cuts) not once, but twice last night on
    AAF.  Overall, it's GREATLY improved over the last 4 albums by the 
    band (well, arguably Permanent Vacation).  It's def. back to the
    guitar-based, funky rock that A-smith was known for in the early 80s 
    (like Night in the Ruts days).  It's NOT as raw as Toys/Get your Wings,
    so don't expect that, but it is a lot better...

    Two Songs have HIT_ME!!! "Flesh"and"Walk_On_Down"(Perry All_The WAY!!)
    Ahhhhh.Thank_You Aero_Miester.
    I Agree with Buck that"Nite_In_The_Ruts"does come to mind.
    As far as the Vid..I think Esco_Kid got his wish.(See note .332)
    HAwawaw!I miss em.  Any_One know where I can get one of those PeaCock/
    Pheasant Head_Dome that Tyler has on?? The bits with the High_School
    kids...Is this from some Up_Comin Movie? And who's that Flamin_Actor
    at the end gettin ready for a hot Nite_Out? He looks Familiar,but I
    don't follow Movies much..  Any_Who,He should be Shot!!!!!
    
    Did I hear Right when I heard that they are plannin 3 Nites at
    Great_Woods???
    
               Crazy_Nice_Burp_At_The_End_Of"Eat_The_Rich"_Al

    Shite..With a Day_Off and catchin up on my readin..Heres an Article
    from the Boston_Globe 4/16/93.  Re_Printed with the Goddess_Of_f's
    Permission.. :_)
    
                            BACK TO THE EDGE
                        _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_
    Aerosmith_Still the pride of Boston_Rock has set a blisterin pace in 
    recent years.They've run off Hit after Hit with the effciency of a
    Madonna,Michael Jackson or Whitney Houston(PUH_Less*How can this
    wrighter((Steve Morse))mention those names in this Article!!)ACK!
    They've won MTV Awards and Boston Music Awards.They've Survived Drugs,
    House_fires and CensorShip Battles.They've Nurtured young Bands like
    Guns_&_Roses and Skid_Row as their Openin Acts.They've Signed a
    Reported $30 Million contrct with Sony Records(Talk about
    Eattin_The_Rich :_))
    So Whats left?To head down a Safe,slick path to Arena_Rock Banality?
    No_Way!InStead,they come Full_circle with"Get_A_Grip",an Album
    (Due out Thurs_Day)that harks back to the Un_Bridled energy of their
    eary '70s days as Shut_Up_And_Dance Hard_Rockers who lived in a group
    Apartment on Comm.Ave.and didn't care who they offended.
    "We could have played it safe and kept on goin the way of our last
    Album,'Pump.'It had some good songs,but was Startin to Sound A_Little
    Smooth,"Says Guitarist Joe Perry."It was time to get back to the
    Roots".
    "What else is more AreoSmith?It Rocks and Kicks_Butt!"adds Mad_Cap
    Singer Steve Tyler.Plopped on a Sofa in the 4_Seasons_Hotel with Perry
    and Drummer Joey Kramer.The New albums first
    Single,"Livin'_On_The_Edge",has Stream_Linded,Beatlesque_Harmonies,
    but most songs have a Hammer_Down Guitar_Rock Vengeance in such Blue_
    Collar Anthems as"Eat_The_Rich","Flesh"(Every_Bodys got to have it)
    and the Apt"Shut_Up And Dance".There are touches of Social_Commentary
    ("Livin_On_The_Edge" blasts Racism)and Confessional_Balladry("Amazing"
    is About findin Hope after Drugs,)But most of it is Designed to get 
    you down the High_Way in Record time,with a Big Prankster Smile on 
    yer Face.
    
    Kramer says"The Natural tendency is to Move on and Progress in an
    Up_Ward Motion.People concider that Progress.But Some_Times it's
    harder to Stick to yer Roots and keep a finger on the Orginal Source
    of energy.It's Some_Times Real Hard.But thats what I like About this
    Record.It's Really what we're about.It's the Bottom_Line.Like Joe said
    'Pump'was a good Record and so was the one before
    that,"Permanent_Va_Cay".And thats where we were at that Point_Of_Time.
    But now We've Come back around now.This is about what we were really 
    about from the beginnin.We're a Guitar_Band"
    
    Perry Says"When you talk about Risks,A_Lot of people would say that 
    this is a Noisy Record compared to the last one,But it's the Noize
    that makes it Good"
    
    Tyler ProClaims"There was times last Summer when we were Writtin at 
    Joe's House that I thought,'I've never had so Much Fun'.And I Couldn't
    stop Laughin about what we were Wrightin..Just Fun,Out_Rageous stuff.
    It's kind of like a Hermit_Crab.You're down in this Little_Hole and you
    stick yer head out and look Around fer A_Minute,then you come back and
    Write.It was Hilarious!There was A_Couple of times I Said'Joe,We gotta
    call the rest of the guys to come in'.They were Rehearsin the other 
    songs at Joey's_Place.It was a Good_Time for us.
    
    
    There's More,and I'll post it Later
    
       Crazy_The_Sun_Just_Came_Out_Al      Oh_Joy!!!

    Heard on the Radio Today that the ASPCA is on the Band All_Ready about
    the Album cover.Aero's people say that the Picture is Doctored_Up.
    Perry says that the Important thing is that It's Pissin People Off.
    
    
          Crazy_Can_I_Have_That_Beer_Now_Al?

    So what *is* the photo of?
    
    gh

    ..it's a shot of a cow with a pierced udder...................../k

    ...can you say   * mouch *......;")

    Sounds really moooving.  

    Just popped in the cd... I'm on the 5th track..
    
    
    Wahoooo!!! It's GREAT!!!! 
    
    /M

    I Heard that Aero_Smith are at Fall_River,MA.Today Filmin a Vidio for
    the Song"Cryin"...
    
      Crazy_Home_Of_Lizzy_Borden_Al

    
    
    At the church where Lizzy Borden attended!

     The Vid was Filmed at The Central_Congregation_Church.
    
    I listened to a 2_Hour Special on them Last_Nite on 101.FM (I_Think)
    It was All_Right,but Perry AND Tyler talked Too_Much about the Past.
    I would have liked to hear some Stories about what Happened while
    they were Recordin this Album.
    
    Did you Know that Tyler Wanted to be a Forest_Ranger when he was a
    Kid??
    
    
               Crazy_Big_Deal_Al

    
    but yogi, mr. ranger wouldn't like this...
    
    

    F*** the ranger, Boo Boo!!

    AEROSMITH TICKETS ON SALE THIS SATURDAY 10:00 AM FOR GREAT WOODS
    AUGUST 26, 27. TICKETMASTER (617)931-2000. POSSIBILITY OF A THIRD SHOW
    AS WELL. PROBABLY ANNOUNCED THAT DAY.  

anyone know who's opening for them at great woods?

-a

Jackyl is warming up.

    Jackyl is cool -- can't wait!!

    RE: Buck
    
    I'm worried about you mon...
    
    Doncha remember me and Scary talking about Jackyl and that
    idiot singer chopping up the stage at AJ's in Greenville??
    

    
    	BMG just sent me the latest catalog ... and I get 2 free for
    	buying 1 at regular price, which works out to $7 each after
    	they finish adding S/H onto the order.
    
    	Jackyl is going to be one of them!!  I love the chainsaw solo!!
    
    
    							GTI

>Wish it was Stone Temple Pilots 

definatly!

    so??...who's going to the aerosmith show at great woods aug 26 and
    27........my tickets are for the 26th................/k
    

    i heard that Jackyl won't be opening for Aerosmith at Great Woods in 
    August ....didn't hear the reason.....heard that 4 Non-Blondes will be
    opening instead...dont' know if this is good or bad..anyone have the
    scoop?......not that it matters as i probably wont' get there for the
    opening act anyway..../k

    HUUUUUUUUUUURL!!!!

    
    4 loser women opening for Asmith?????  yuk!!!
    

    
    	To the casual observer, 4 loser women are headlining also.
    
    	8^)
    
    							GTI

    
    wouldn't they be 5 loser women?
    

    
    	Well, I don't know WTF Steven Tyler is.
    
    							GTI

    He's Yer Worst Nite_Mare!!!  ;_)
    
    So why did Jackyl Cancle? Did the Slinger_Singer Cut_Off Alla the Hands
    of Each Band_Member durin A Solo??
    
         Crazy_He_Must_Be_The_Son_Of_Leather_Face_Al

          The news I got last night from WAAF and MTV, Megadeath
     was taking over the opening act from Jackyl.  Everything
     was going ok until the lead singer on Megadeath opened his mouth 
     and said Aerosmith isn't good enough for them and that Aerosmith
    should be the opening act.  Megadeath was immediately cut from the
    tour and Jackyl was suppose to be finishing the tour.
    
    BJ

    
    
    Ya, I heard part of that on MTV.. had Mustange saying that there was
    'musical differences'...
    
    Ya... sounds like the same reason he got booted from Metallica... 
    
    Whit-

Dave Mustaine then proceded to say that this was Aerosmith's last hurrah and
they'd all be dead soon.

I still wish they'd get Stone Temple Pilots to open up for them.

Tim

    ..tim...put it in the suggestion box.....and don't forget to write 
    legibly.........................;')....................../k

    Re.on Dave Muzz_Tang..
    
    I...I....  What I Wanna Say About the....
    
    I'm Gonna save My_Self Some Face and the Mods some time...
    and just say that His Dayz_Are_Numbered.
    
    MuTTErre****Rrrrr*%%  Freakin_Moe_Foe

    
    Megadeth is too good to open for A-Smith.
    
    and...  4 non-blondes is only 3 loser women (guitarist is a guy).  I'd
    go see them and go back to the parking lot for Aerosmith - that last
    album has to be the biggest hack I've ever seen a successful group 
    put out (oops, forgot about Van Hagar)...
    
    

    well, their latest album is pretty bad but they are still Aerosmith
    and worth seeing. Does anyone think there are still tickets left
    for the 26 or 27th?
    
    J

    NOT!

Thier latest album is BAD?

sha....as if.  :^)

    I didn't care for PUMP that much when it came out. I have gotten used
    to it a little more but not enough to put it in the deck. I like the
    new one a lot better. Still nothing like the day they were pumping out
    ones like Rocks, Get your wings and Toys.....
    
    Jeff

    
    
       Alot of low_end in the recording.....  Sounded good.....
    
    
    
    
                          

    Heard that The_Band was Filmin their Part for Wayne's_World II 
    last week.
    Any Truth to the Rumor that they're Gonna play a Show at the
    Providence Civic_Center???
    I know that they're Gonna be A Part of that Walden_Woods(Don Henley)
    Thingy at FoxBoro.  
    
        Crazy_Aero_And_Elton_John_On_The_Same_Ticket_Al???
    Well,What_The_Frig....Elton Played A Tune With G&R.

I think that tickets for Providence already went on sale Al...

I heard that Aerosmith will appear in WW2.  Wayne's World 2, not World War II.
Filming of Wayne's World 2 has been held up while Mike ? and Dana Carvey fight
for the biggest part (part of what?).  I read this yesterday in Parade Magazine
for what it's worth.

Tim

>Filming of Wayne's World 2 has been held up while Mike ? and Dana Carvey fight
    
    Mike Myers.

    
    
    	From what I've been reading and hearing on the radio, Mike
    	Meyers had a major inflated ego now and is very difficult
    	to get along with....
    

    From the interviews I've seen, it would appear that Dana Carvey is also
    suffering from that affliction...

    Would Some_one Please Kid_Nap me and take me to Great_Woods!!!
    
    
      Crazy_The_Boyz_Are_Back_In_Town_Al!!!!!!!!

Aerosmith will be at Tower Records today at noon receiving their star which will
be put in the sidewalk in front of the store.

Should be a couple people there...

Tim

    Does anyone know if the Providence show is sold out?
    

    
    they have stars in the sidewalk in front of tower records?  what a
    novel idea!!!
    
    

    2 A-smith lawn seat tickets for sale for Tonights show...
    
    anyone? anyone? bueller? bueller?
    
    SueJ  need to know by 6.

    
    Anyone see one or both of the shows at Great Woods this past week? I
    went to the Friday show - I was somewhat dissapointed. First let me say
    that the show itself was great and the crowd all seemed to enjoy every
    minute of the show. My only problem was that age old problem with old
    bands that tour behind the new album - too much new. The old songs that
    they played (as far as I can remember) were 
    
    	1. Dream On    2. Sweet Emotion     3. Toys    4. Back in the Saddle  
        5. Train       6. Walk this Way  
    
    There may have been a couple more that I just don't recall. Maybee
    someone else at the show can add to the list. But even 8 old tunes out
    of a two hour + show?  I think they push too much of the new tunes. 
    
    
    I could have done without :
    
    1. Eat the Rich (dissapointing opener)   
    
    2. Love in an Elevator (probably catch flack for this one)
    
    3. "Dude" (flack for that one too)  
    
    4. A couple of blues tunes that Joe Perry did center stage came off
       well but I would have been more than happy to have them take that
       time and do a couple of others  - like Mama Kin and/or Seasons of
       Wither.
    
    5. Also - the review from the Thursday show said that they did "One Way
       Street" from the first album. That was left off of the Friday show. 
       Major disspointment.
    
     
    O.K. enough complaints, songs that I thought came off well
    
    1. Honkey Tonk Women (During Draw the Line) awesome.
    
    2. Draw the Line iteslf. (Funky variation - great live)
    
    3. Living on the Edge (Good and loud - big crowd pleaser)  
    
    4. What it Takes (Crowd sang almost every single word along with Steve)
    
    5. Cryin'   (Latest hit - real powerful live)  
    
    6. Dream On  (Flick those Bic lighters - a memorable classic live)
    
    7. Train  (Always done great by them)
    
    Scale of 1 to 10 - i'll give it an 8. But this could have easily been a 10
    from these guys. 
    
    Maybee they should have called me to do the set list (HA HA HA yeah right) 
    
    Anyone else out there care to give a review? I'd like to hear some others.

    a friend of mine who went to Thursdays show said they only did 2 songs
    off Get a Grip. I was surprised at that. They did a lot of "classic"
    old tunes....
    
    
    JEff

    
    
    I loved it ! Steven is a madman!!!!!! I went on Friday and I was
    surprised that they played as many old tunes as they did! It was a 
    great show!
    
    SueJ

    I saw the Bad Boyz from Bahstin last night in Providence -- They did
    mostly new stuff -- the old stuff was pretty much what was listed in
    reply .433 
    
    Band sounded good, though, esp. steven's vocals.

    wayhey.....Vai will be supporting Aerosmith in Scotland! 8)I just
    bought a ticket! 8)
    
    
    
    					ian

    I'm surprised nobody has talked about A-smith's performance on
    SNL this past weekend.  I missed their first number, but they did
    "Sweet Emotion" for the second.  I thought they sounded great on this
    tune.  Tyler and the band even made a few cameo appearances in some of 
    the skits.  Tyler looks like he's about 50 years old! ;-)
    
    I also thought it their choice of gear was interesting.  They always
    struck me as Marshall bigots.  Brad was playing through a Peavey 5150,
    Tom through a Hartke, and Joe through a pair of Fender halfstacks
    (anyone know what they were?).
    
    Mike

    
      I liked the skit where Tyler goes into a Video Rental Store....and
    is told last section to the right....the Nasty film section  :-)
    
      The Band sounded good as usual....
    
    /Bob
    

I saw them do Cryin'  - okay at best.  Wish I'd seen Sweet Emotion...

Tim

    Well Tom, I taped SNL, just for Aerosmith and if my copy came out o.k. 
    you may borrow it after I viewed it.
    
    Joyce

    I saw 'em on SNL, they sounded fine, but nothing to write home about. 
    Tyler was also in 2-3 of the sketches, which were better then the
    band's performance.  They are all starting to look really old these
    days...
    
    gh

    I know they look old.  My wife fell out of her chair when I told her
    how old they *REALLY* are.

    just saw aerosmith on 29th oct. in Glasgow scotland. i had went to see
    VAI and wasn't especially interested in aerosmith, i'm not a fan as
    such. they did put on a good show though with lots of "hits" for people
    like myself. i think it would irritate diehards though.
    
    they played eat the rich to open and followed with hits like walk this
    way, livin on the edge, dude looks like a lady. i thought that steven
    tyler was by far the most impressive of the band and frequently sang
    (screeched) louder than the whole band put together. joe perry did a
    song. the drummer (joey?) did a solo (not bad) as did brad whitford. 
    
    i've now borrowed some a'smith from my girlfriend so it couldn't have
    too bad.
    
    ps. VAI are excellent...devin townsend is absolutely "off his head"
    whoever said steve vai couldn't play live is talking rubbish...he even
    was doing the michael angelo bit playing over the neck...he also
    destroyed his 7-string guitar with a talking feedback section where he
    completely abused the guitar to great effect. 
    
    only disappiontment of the night was Terry "Ted" Bozzio. i saw him with
    jeff beck and have listened to him with zappa etc.. he really didn't do
    anything outstanding (my mate was even less interested in the rest of
    the show as he is a zappa fanatic and had come to see Bozzio only. he
    was dissapointed). i thought he complememted the band well, but isn't
    that what a drummer should do:-)
    
    jim.  

    >only disappiontment of the night was Terry "Ted" Bozzio. i saw him with
    >jeff beck and have listened to him with zappa etc.. he really didn't do
    >anything outstanding (my mate was even less interested in the rest of
    >the show as he is a zappa fanatic and had come to see Bozzio only. he
    >was dissapointed). i thought he complememted the band well, but isn't
    >that what a drummer should do:-)
    
    I read in "Berklee Today" in an interview with Vai that Bozzio was NOT
    doing the tour with the Vai live band.  Said they had some other dude
    filling in (forget his name).
    
    
    >ps. VAI are excellent...devin townsend is absolutely "off his head"
    >whoever said steve vai couldn't play live is talking rubbish...he even
    >was doing the michael angelo bit playing over the neck...he also
    >destroyed his 7-string guitar with a talking feedback section where he
    >completely abused the guitar to great effect. 
    
    Fwiw, "Berklee Today" rated Vai's new band as "Excellent".

>    only disappiontment of the night was Terry "Ted" Bozzio. 
    
    When I saw Vai about a month ago, Bozzio was definitly NOT drumming. 
    He played on the album, but wasn't touring with the group.  Also, the
    bass player in the live band wasn't TM Stevens, who played on the
    album.
    
    I also saw Bozzio with Jeff Beck a few years back and I can't even
    imagine him not playing anything less then extraordinary.
    
    Great live band.  I've heard most of the album now and it doesn't do
    their live show justice.  The live show has a lot more energy.
    
    Greg

    in retrospec, the drumkit used might give the game away, no large crash 
    cymbals or the black remo bozzio kit. he certainly looked like him
    i could be wrong though - perhaps i need glasses :-(.
    
    on aerosmith, what kind of amps was joe perry using. they looked pretty
    knackered and i couldn't make out the logos from where i was. they
    sounded superb during his solo section, very atmospheric.
    
    jim.
    
    ps: re greg, when you saw vai live, did devin t play guitar, he
    certainly seemed to be strumming away during the passion/warefare stuff
    and also, did he do the percussion bit with steve vai conducting.?

>    ps: re greg, when you saw vai live, did devin t play guitar, he
>    certainly seemed to be strumming away during the passion/warefare stuff
>    and also, did he do the percussion bit with steve vai conducting.?
    
    Yeah, Devin played guitar on some of the songs when I saw them. 
    Seemed like a decent player, he was playing some of the harmony leads
    with Steve.  And yes, he also did that same percussion thing with Steve
    conducting.  A very entertaining show with more variety to it then I
    expected.
    
    As far as Joe Perry goes, he usually plays Marshalls and Soldanos, with
    an occasional appearance by something else (Orange, Peavey 5150,
    Fender).  However, when I saw Aerosmith on Saturday Night Live a couple
    of months back, he was playing through a Fender rig.
    
    Greg                                                

    did any of the UK noters see zig and zag with Aerosmith on friday?What
    a riot....!Zig lauched into a guitar solo and smashed up the guitar on
    the bath while zag had hankies tied to his microphone stand and was
    singing old 'smith songs!!
    
    
    					ian

    Ian,Bud...
    Is Zig_And_Zag A Comedy Show on The T.V?

    they're supposed to be a kids slot on a morning show but their humour
    is maybe a bit too much for kids.They're supposed to be 2 alien bothers
    that landed here and come from outer space but their accents are Irish.
    
    
    
    					IAN

    
    Didn't Zag sing with ST later in the show?
    
    Flip

    yup,they did "the same old song and dance".ST stopped and Zag kept
    singing.Steve  was impressed that a purple bug eyed alien knew the
    words to one of their songs.The classic bit was Zigs guitar solo and
    the smashing of the guitar! laughed for ages@! 8)
    
    
    						ian

    
    re: Ian
    
    Yeah, I saw it, great TV eh!!  What creased me up was the stick-on bits 
    of paper Zig (or is it Zag?!) was using as false lips!
    
    Chris.

    
    
    Zig had the false lips and the black wig.I liked it when Zig said that
    Zag has a big fan and had *both* albums!!Zag threw Joe Perry a curve
    ball whe  he asked Joe Perry why "once a rocker,always a rocker" was
    never released on cd! 8)
    
    
    				ian

>    They're supposed to be 2 alien bothers
>    that landed here and come from outer space but their accents are Irish.
 
    I always theorized that the Irish were aliens (and Scots as well).

 >   I always theorized that the Irish were aliens (and Scots as well).
    
    That reminds me of a Monty Python episode where aliens were turning
    people into Scottsmen and ordering millions of kilts from light years
    away.
    

    I always thought Monty Python was a big pile o' henshite!
    
    
    						ian
    
    
    ps...Greg..I'll ignore the last comment! ;^)
    

>    That reminds me of a Monty Python episode where aliens were turning
>    people into Scottsmen and ordering millions of kilts from light years
>    away.
    
    Wahhhahahah!  I'd forgotten all about that!  It was one of my favorite
    skits that they did too!
    
>    ps...Greg..I'll ignore the last comment! ;^)
    
    Quiet, lowlander...
    
    Gh

Staynz (or is it ian this week!)

There is only one Highland noter... and it ain't you.

Bonzo (Flossy... Come back Flossy)

    Bonzo...away and shite! 8)
    
    
    					ian

    Hey... a really thought provoking come back... man you are sharp today!
    
    
    Bonzo (Staynz - had one before I left this AM)

    oh yup..thats no.281 from the big book o' snappy retorts! 8)
    
    
    						ian

    Well,Tim Collins called me Lasted_Nite and I thought I'd let you know
    Whats_Up with AeroSmith.       NOT!  :_)
    
    From what I've been able to Piece_Together..
    Last Monday_Nite they were at the Hard_Rock Cafe in Boss_Town to wish
    Public_Relation gal,Elaine Wood A Wicked Good_Time at her Party.
    And they Played,Man!!First Boss_Town Club Date in Decades.
    -_-_
    They're Gonna be In A Vidio_Game.I don't know what Company is behind it
    but they Spent A few days being filmed and it was All Down_Loaded and
    Dititized(I_Love_That_Word)fer the Game.Should be ReLeased by
    Late_Spring.
    _-_-
    Lasted_Year their Vidio"Cryin"was #1 on MTV's Top 100.
    I ReFuse to watch the Grammies..but they were on it.As Stated earlier_
    They Did SNL and Waynes_World 2(Disappointment..Shaaa).
    At the end of Last_Year they were in London(Wembley_Arena),and Eccepted
    an ward from BillBoard as the best Rock_Band(Or some Title like that).
    They were Shown Via_TelaCast to Except the Award in London.
    The Band took A Break from the Get_A_Grip tour that started in Kansas 
    in June,to come home fer X_Mas.They spent Thanx_Givin in Malmo,Sweden.
    Perry says"Fortunately they have heard of Turkey there,but the
    Cranberries are just not the same."
    They Rocked in the New_Year at the Garden on that Fry and
    Saturation_Day.I beLieve The Mighty_Mighty BossTones Opened.
    They Raised Over A Ton of Canned_Good fer the Needie at those shows.
    This was Sponseed by The Boston Food_Bank/WAAF/KISS/WBCN/Boston_Herald/
    Hard_Rock Cafe and The Comedy_Connection. Does that git it,Or What?!
    In January they played A_Few U.S Dates than went to South_America.
    Now this is Stuff I'm Typin_Down from An Article from the Boston_Herald
    of Dec 28th 93....Perry Sez..
    
    "After that It's Japan.And after that I Really don't know.We're Lookin
    at goin intill next September,but we may extend that if we Play South_
    Korea.The plan is to do Europe again in May and June and then the U.S
    in the Summer.That means we'll play Boston again.Definitely.We're going
    to take A Month_Or_Two Off in the Spring to work on some New_material
    Theres A New Greatest_Hits Album Coming out(ACK**Not A_Nother_One!!)
    and we want to have some new songs on that."
    That Album will be the last fer Giffen.Then the Bands Mega_Bucks
    Contract with Columbia Kicks_In. 
    
    TIME_OUT!I thought that their Contarct was with Sony.Not Columbia.
    Are Columbia and Sony Intergrated?? InQuirin_Minds....
    
    Perry Sez"We've worked harder on this tour than I can Ever Remember 
    Working.We've Played more Cities than We've ever Played,All_Over
    France and Germany and Places like Hungary and FinLand.For Every_Thing
    that we do,Theres 10 Demands for other things-TV
    Shows,Radio,InTerViews."
    
    This band Truely Rulezzz
    
      Crazy_May_Their_Wings_Never_Be_Fleeced_Al

    Last_Month they were in NY(Probably the Record_Plant)To record A_Few
    Songs fer their Up_Cummin"Greatest_Hits"Record.
    NoI Know What yer Thinkin.We Don't need No Nother AeroSmith GH Record!
    But this is their Last_Disc with Columbia...Then It's Into the
    Rockin_Chair with Sony.
    
    Here's A_Great_Story.From the Boston_Herald A_Few Weeks Ago.
                        
                    HARVARD SALUTES GUITARIST/PERRY HAS AN EDGE IN
    CAMBRIDGE.
    
    It Was Joe Perry Day in the Peoples_Republic of Cambridge as Mayor Ken
    Reeves and Those Wacky_Kids from The Harvard_Lampoon Feted the
    AreoSmith Bad_Boy with ProClamations,Pizza a A_Phoney Harvard_Degree.
    (Theres A_Great Pic of Perry Holdin_It,ANd from what I can Make_Out it
    S"From The_President and Tillers of Harvard_University Hereby Relay the
    Title of MASTER_OF_ROCK to Joe Perry thi19th_Day of April).
    Well at least they didn't make me wear A_Bra',Joked Joe who was led
    his Lampoon Hall_Of_Fame AwardParade into A_Packed Harvard_Sq Aboard A
    Red Graziano Cement_Truck."I Wanted to Ride An Elephant,But It would
    have taken too Long.I Never wanted to go to Harvard.I Liked the BU And
    North_Eastern Girls the Best."
    
    I Believe that They're off to Europe Again Soon.
    Don't Forget that Tix got on Sale fer Great_Woods on May 7th.
    
        Crazy_SHut_Up_And_Dance_Al
    
    
    I 

    Well,I got 2 Pavillion_Tix fer The Great_Woods Show.
    So be Nice to me.   :_)
    
    There was A_Death in Brad Whitfords Family.He Headed home and Dave 
    Minahan(Sp?)of The Neighborhood's is Fillin_In so Aero Can play
    their Current Japan_Dates.
    
    Earlier in The_Year,Joey Kramers Dad Died.
    
       Crazy_I_Hate_To_Relay_This_Shite_Al
    

    Ya Gotta Love that Commercial on MTV fer Their Latest Contest...
    
    
       Crazy_Chinesee_Food_Is_My_Favorite_Al
    

    today in the post I got a bootleg tape of Aerosmith's live set from
    Castle Donnington.Its recorded live from the radio and is a good
    quality recording,so if anyone wants a tape,send mail!
    
    
    						ian

	Aerosmith is releasing a single available only through compuserve.
	I didn't catch a title, or a date, just the fax...

	/CQ

    Read this Outta the"Boston_Herald"...
    The Band was at The Isle of Capri,Stayin at The Grand Hotel_Quisisana
    (Very Posh_Posh,You Under_Stand).Seems That Tyler Wahed_Out his
    G_String Leopard Under_Ware in the Sink and Hung it Out to Dry on The
    Balcony.Doesn't A Mediterranean_Breeze Come by and Blow em off the
    Balconey and Down to The Out_Door Cafe??You Betcha..Right Into 
    Some_Ones Pasta.     Love_It*
    A_Smith is Recordin 2_Songs at Capri_Digital for The"Next"(UgH)
    Greatest_Hits Album.
    Tim Collins(Manager)Will be in The Belt_Way WedNes_Day to Testify
    Before A Congressional_Committee Investigating the Businness Practices
    of Ticket_Master.      
      
                                        Amen
    
       Crazy_The_Draws_Came_Down_Al

    The Song From CompuServe is Available ToDay.There's no Fee to Down_Load
    The Song.You need 4MEG of space and it takes from 60 to 90 Minutes to
    Down_Load.The Song is Call"Head First".
    
    
                  Crazy_Albert                                                                    

    Wow!  The Crazy_Al-meister's using PC lingo!  :')
    
    I think I'll wait until it shows up on a CD.  I cancelled my Compuserve
    after I found they were charging me $8.95 a month and I wasn't even
    using the service.
    
    |KS|
    

What is it??  WAV format??  Must be a short tune.  :-)

j

    WINCIM for PC's
    MACCIM for Macintosh_Owners.
    
    
        Crazy_NOT_A_Techno_Winnie_Al      :_)

    
    they also have the entire video (i forget the song name) where the girl
    jumps off the bridge at the end on the microsoft level 2 tech set of cd
    roms.  except that one is about 47 meg if i recall.
    

    
    	Is 47 meg alot?
    
    	[I'm not up on software terminology.]
    
    							GTI
    

    ..yeah..it's a reasonable amount of memory....../k

It's slightly less than 10,000 VMS blocks.

Since a 340 Meg drive costs about $250-300 you can figure out how much it would
cost to store the file.

Tim

    yeah current market prices are about 80-90�/Mb

    
    	And if there's a drought this year it'll drive the price even
    	higher.
    
    	Or a flood, for that matter.
    
    							GTI

    Tim, I think your calculator is broken....  47 meg is 96,256 blocks!
    
    

    There are 512 bytes in a block.  47Mb / 512b = 91,796.875 blocks

>         -< the official entry >-
    
    BZZZZZT!  
    
>    There are 512 bytes in a block.  47Mb / 512b = 91,796.875 blocks
        
    Yahbut...there are 1024 bytes in a Mb, not 1000.  Ken's number is
    correct.
    
    Greg

    Okay then, 47M + (47 * 24) = 47,128,000 / 1024 <> Ken's number.

>   -< what am I missing? >-
    
    The ability to do basic arithmetic?  47 * 1024 = 48,128
    
    47 * 24 = 1128
    47000 + 1128 = 48128

    Geez, this is the H_M file, but everybody has to whip out their
    calculators to check other people arithmetic!  I only did it because
    10,000 blocks seemed kind of low for 47 Meg.
    
    For the record:   47 * 1024 * 1024 / 512 = 96256
    
    Now watch... Rob'll probably pop in and say that the file was really
    47,598,612 bytes and throw us all off again!  :')
    
    

You mean your calculator doesn't have a program to convert Mbytes to VMS blocks?
What good is it?

    
    well, a megabyte is in reality 1,048,576 bytes as im sure was
    mentioned.  however, speaking in general terms, 47 meg is just that,
    47,000,000 bytes.  people dont sit there and compute exactly how many
    meg a hard drive really is, or how big a program REALLY is in terms of
    meg.  they do a 'dir' and use the size.   1k is really 1024 bytes, a
    program that is 349,234 is really 341k, but would be called a 349 or
    350k program.  so yes, i've messed you all up now.
    
    :')
    
    start over.
    

>       -< then I was right! >-
    
    Not exactly.  You followed popular terminology, which technically isn't
    correct.  A megabyte is still a megabyte, whether people decide to
    round down to even thousands or not.
    
    Greg

    
    even us tech people use popular terminology, so whoever computed the
    number of blocks from 47,000,000 bytes rather than 49,283,072 bytes was
    correct :').  
    

    ...so, what do you think of that new aerosmith single??
    
    ;')

    
      It's outta 'dis World !
    
    :')
    
    

    Say It Ain't So...  $500_Dishes_Fer A Kennedy_Support From A_Smith??
    
    

    
    It is so. I heard it on WBZ radio this morning.
    
    I think they did too much drugs in their past and it's still
    clouding their political judgement.

    
    	Who cares??
    
    	If you don't like it, don't go.
    
    							GTI
    

    Only the liberals in Mass. could keep a clown like Ted in office.

    They're Plannin A_Show Some_Time in October at the Centrum.
    Date Not Released Yet.
    
    
        Crazy_On_His_8th_Life_Al

    
    Boycott Aerosmith!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Vote fer Kennedy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    
    	"Hell, no ... we won't go!!"
    
    							GTI
    

    "BEWARE OF THE BROWN ACID"

    
    the red zone is for loading and unloading only... there is no parking
    in the white zone...
    
    

    don't give me your white zone crap, you're just mad because I had an
    abortion!

    "Watch out where the huskies go and don't you eat that yellow snow"
    
    	db - listening to the Extremist

    re-1
    
    Frank Zappa's influence is everywhere. 8)
    
    
    						ian

    WOW!
    
    And they call me Crazy..

    Kings and Queens and Guillotines,,,,

    
    Now that's an idea. We can cut their heads off. That'll teach 'em
    to stop kissing Ted Kennedy's butt. 

    
    	Its AmaZing....... 8}

    So that's why Ted walks like that!

    This is The Master_Scrutinizer.
    "Get Offa AeroSmith."  
    
    
       Crazy_Barney_Just_Did_Al

    
    
       
      Ted Kennedy has Killed more People with his Car than I have with my
    assault Rifle....!
    
    

    AeroSMith is Gonna be at The Block_Buster Pavilion in LA on 10/15/94.
    Still Haven't heard of A_Date fer The Centrum Show.
    
    Note How I Haven't Said Any_Thing About how they Took A_Lot of
    Rewards at This Years MTV_Award(Again).Tho I'm A Fan..Even I 
    Found that Kindda Embarrassin.
    
      Crazy_Musically_InCorrect_Al

    Well I Guess The Centrum show was A_Scam.Never Happened.I WOnder if The
    Show at The Block_Buster Pavillion in LA ever Happened in October.Help?
    Tyler and his Daughter Liv were on the Cover of The Rolling_Stone with
    an Interview with Ol' Jabber_Mouth Himself.Liv is his 17 Year_Old Kid
    from A RelationShip with Beb Buell.This was Before his 2_Marriages.
    And can you believe that Beb Told Liv that her Father was Todd
    Rundgren,Because they were livin together and Tyler was in th F_ed_Up
    Years.IM_Ever_HO THAT SUXS!Every Child Should know who their Parents
    are.12_years ago Tyler started showin up at Buell and Livs'_House
    Finally Realizin The love that he had fer his Daughter...Liv put 2+2
    Together and Confronted her Mom with The_Question.."Is Steven my Dad?"
    Beb Hadda Choke on her Years_Long Lie.
    There's A_Big Push fer Liv in this RS_Issue.You've seen her as A_Model
    and in The"Crazy"Vidio.Shes Gonna Concentrate more on Actin now.Shes
    in The Movie"Silent_Fall"With Richard Dreyfuss and Also in
    "UpState_Story"where she plays Evan Dando's Girl_Friend.
    Good_Luck to Her...
    
    AeroSmiths' new Greatest_Hits(OuCh)will be out
    soon...Callled"Big_Ones".
    Theres A_Few New Songs on it.I heard"Blind_Man"...and...to
    me...it..just....Is Very Repetitive of what they've been Recording..
    
    Crazy_Glad_To_Spit_That_Out_Al
    

    If Tyler was my dad, I'm not sure I'd want to know.

    Well it was Confirmed that AeroSmith and Jackyl WILL play The_Centrum
    on Dec.15th.Tix are $25 and $35 on Sale This SaturDay at 10AM.
    4 Tix per Head Limit. TicketMaster.
    
    Anyone know who will be at The_Gahden this New_Years Eve??
    Should be The Last For The Old_Gahden..
    
           Crazy_Cawfy_Tawk_Al

    
    
    BRILLIANT!!I LOVE JACKYL...!
    
    
    
    
    
                      **********not**************

>    BRILLIANT!!I LOVE JACKYL...!
    
    Poseur!

    I jest lurv 'em chainsaw solos and Jesse getting out his willie on
    stage!Quality entertainmnet 8)
    
    
    						ian

    Personally, you wouldn't catch me getting ANYTHING outta my pants with
    a chainsaw around...

    This ticket has been selling out across the country, so get em early if
    you wanna go!

    
    	Jackyl ROOLZ!!
    
    							GTI
    

    >>    Anyone know who will be at The_Gahden this New_Years Eve??
    >>    Should be The Last For The Old_Gahden..

    AeroSmith is teaming_Up with Club Magnate Patrick Lyons to Create A
    New Lansdowne St. Waterin_Hole.It will be Called"Mamma Kin's",A 3 in 1
    Music Hall/Recordin Studio,250_Seat"Way off Broad_Way"Theater and A
    Resturant/Coffee_House.When Finished,The Entire 3 Floor Club will be 
    Adorned with work from Local Artists,Includin Hangin_Lamps with The
    A_Smith Logo Cut into them and A Bar that has the Title of Every 
    AeroSmith song written on it in 1 Inch tall Gilded letters.
     In A Lansdowne St.first,the doors will be opened to"The Red_Sox
    crowd",Offerin Beer served in Frosted_Mugs and Pretzels.The Club will
    also be the first on that Street that is HandiCapped_Accessible.
     The First Floor of Mama Kin's,A Booth_Lined Music_Hall that Lyons
    promises the best Juke_Box in Town,should be opened Opened by Jan.1,
    if all goes as planned.Rumors are All_Ready out there about the Band
    Showin_Up and Playin A_Few Numbers on New_Years Eve.
     The rest of The Operation,Which will bring the Club's Capacity to 
    about 1,000,should be Runnin by April 1995.Lyons said that he wants the
    Theater to become A_Temporary Home for all the Dance_Companies and
    Theater_Groups in Town.He hopes The Resturant/Coffee_House will have
    A_Relaxed Atmosphere for people who want to Hang_Out and not be
    Worried.There will be no VIP Lounge.They hope The Club will Become A
    Meltin_Pot of sorts...
    
     Also,YesterDay Logged onto their own Compuserve On_Line
    System(Prodigy)Armed with Power_Books Provided by Apple.They Hooked_Up
    with over 200 fans from All over The World Includin Tokyo,London and
    Philadelphia to answer questions.
     One Pennsylvanian_Caller told how Scalpers were Playin people to
    Join AeroSmiths Fan_Club and then Buy_Up the Tickets that the Band
    Reserves for them.Joey Kramer was Pissed and got the E_Mail Address
    from The Caller so they Could discuss it more later.Today the band
    Appears on The Less_Exspensive and more Popula"America On_Line".
    Tommorow They will be on Undetermined InterNet Sites.
    
    
        Crazy_WWW_Al??
         
    

    The Band Will play A Private Invitation only Show at Mama Kin's on
    December 19th.It will be BroadCast live on WAAF.The Radio_station will
    give Away chances to go to the show.
    
    
        Crazy_And_Justice_For_Al
    
    

    The Radio_Station Rock 101 FM Just Raffled_Off A pair of Tickets to
    The AeroSmith Show at the Centrum Tammarra..This Also Includes 
    Back_Stages Passes to meet the Band and Have yer Picture taken with
    them.The Money goes to A Chapter of The Jimmy_Fund for Cancer_Research.
    The Highest_Bidder and Winner Bought the Tixs fer $3,800.00!!
    
      Crazy_Must_Be_Nice_Al

    T.V Station WCVB will Premiere A_New show at 11:30pm this Satur_Nite
    Called"Edge TV".One of The Segments will be an Interview with Tyler
    at The Openin of Mama Kin's.

    Can anybody give a Boston_Novice directions to Mama Kins?  Including
    where to park?  The last time I was in Boston I tried to take the
    "T" to Landsdown St. with no success.  Thanks.
    
    D.

  >  where to park?  The last time I was in Boston I tried to take the
  >  "T" to Landsdown St. with no success.  Thanks.
  
	That's cause you take the T to Kenmore not Landsdowne.  Take the green
	line, I believe it's the B train., get off at Kenmore, come up out of the
	ground, walk to the large intersection, take a right and walk up over
	Rt. 90 .  Landsdowne is your first left.   Don't forget to go into
	the Beer Works for a good brew first.

	/Cap'n Quadake a right and walk up over
	Rt. 90 .  Landsdowne is your first left.      

	Soory, that's a left at the huge intersection...

	/CQ

    Thanks, we'll be going soon.

    This band is shite now

    *gasp*     Bit_Yer_Tongue.
    
    They were Gonna put out An_Album of all Blues_Covers and had done A_Lot
    of Research on it.But then Claptons"From The Cradle"came out and they 
    Shelfed it.I Hope the Finish it and Release it Some_Time.
    Any_Body know if they're Recordin/Writtin Now?
    Any_Body Spot em Around Boss_Town Lately??
    
        Crazy_They_Rule_Al

>    They were Gonna put out An_Album of all Blues_Covers and had done A_Lot
>    of Research on it.But then Claptons"From The Cradle"came out and they 
>    Shelfed it.
    
    Glad SOMEONE learned from Clapton's mistake.
    
    ;-)
    
    	db

    Yeah...I'm sure Clapton's regretting it......
    
    ALL THE WAY TO THE BANK!!!!
    
    I think the fact that Aerosmiith had to research blues tunes to cover
    speaks for itself....nice try--no thanks...
    
    -kev 

>>I think the fact that Aerosmiith had to research blues tunes to cover
 >>   speaks for itself....nice try--no thanks...
   
	????????????????????????

	What does that mean, they should have the full catalogue of any blues
	tune written permanently embedded in their brain???

	Do you know every song of every artist that has ever written a rock
	tune???

	/Cap'n Quad 

    What i mean by that is that i am SURE that Mr. Clapton did not have to 
    "research" to find a a dozen or so blues tunes that he wanted to cover.
    Research...pethetic....live it-love it-play it, don't replicate it.
    Bottom line,imo of course,is the Steve and the boys are just not
    worthy...
    
    -kev

    WHOA,-kev....
    Hang Thy Head in Shame...
    Of Course Clapton didn't have to Research fer That Album...
    And it Shows.Have You heard it???  It Blows Major_Chunks!!!
    (Add sound of Luke_Warm Vomit Hittin A_Tile Floor.SpllatttSwheessshhh)
    AeroSmith has Dug_Up Classics like"Walkin The Dog"and"Big Ten_Inch
    Record." How can you say That The Blue_Blooded Boyz from Boston are 
    bnot Worthy of Playin The Blues.
    
    Crazy_You_Don't_Have_Yer_Wings_AL
    

    Yeah,may be yer right Al.God knows Clapton couldn't play the blues to
    save his soul...and we all know he couldn't sing the blues if his life
    depended on it....Yeah,what ever....
    Yes, We NEED Steve Tyler doing back flips in spandex and grabbing his
    crotch while he belts out those blues fav's we all love---no thanks.
    I'll take Clapton anyday...but then again, my definition of blues and 
    yours may very well be two entirely different things.
    
    -kev  

    
    ah...gimme Billie Holliday anyday! 
    
    

    
    	You can have her.
    
    	8^)
    

    -kev....Bud...
     We both know that Clapton was Raised_On_The_Bluez.Thats his Roots.
    Shite,he was Playin Bars when he was Some_Thang like 14 Years_Old.
    No Argument there.(Or Any_Where fer that Matter).
     I Just thought that his last Album Couldda been Better.
    And Yes..I Am Biased Towards A_Smith.They Ain't what they Used to be 
    But Neither is Clapton..........Who is??
     Yes...A_Smith may be MTV's Darlin...Yes...They did the Ted_Kennedy
    Fund_Raizer...But their Roots are in the Bluez Also.
    
    And YES...Tyler Grabs His Crotch A_Lot...But it looks like there Tain't
    much down there Any_Who...So Maybe thats why he Keeps Checkin..   :_)
    
       Crazy_Micheal_Jackson_Has_The_Same_Problem_Al

    Crazy Al...You killed me! Keeps checkin'...good one.
    Actually, I have a copy of Joe doin' Red House from a show here in
    Ottawa from a couple of years back...wonder if they would've recorded that
    for the CD?
    Btw, don't mind me,I was  just stickin' up for the Clapster...I think
    he deserves a little more respect around these parts.Some people need 
    to open thier minds a little more when it comes to music.
                                                            
    -kev

    
    	AeroSmith anyday over Clap-Tin.
    
    Bobby T

    Ahhhhhhhhhhhh...But Who Plays with More Emotion???
    
    
    :_))))))))))))))))))))))

    You need not ask....it *IS* a given!

    Don't be ridiculous, hmm??  We try to stay serious in this
    conference...
    

    
    	Found "Once a Rocker, Always a Rocker" by The Joe Perry Project
    	on CD over the w'end.
    
    	As you may have expected, I haven't listened to it yet.
    

     Aerosmith fires longtime manager

     By Steve Morse and Jim Sullivan, Globe Staff,
     08/01/96

     Tim Collins, who managed Aerosmith for 12 years
     and helped revive the band's career and steer its
     members to sobriety, was fired yesterday by the
     band during a 14-minute meeting at the Four
     Seasons Hotel.

     Collins led the group out of a drug-wracked
     tailspin in the mid-'80s to become one of the most
     highly paid rock bands, signed to a $50 million
     contract with Sony.

     ``They're great entertainers, but I had a definite
     vision and they told me today that they don't
     share that vision,'' Collins said after the
     meeting. He said they no longer wanted to be urged
     to support his social causes, which have included
     lobbying for sobriety (he recently wrote an op-ed
     piece for The New York Times) and for First
     Amendment rights.

     ``I think the band felt pushed on social
     agendas,'' he said. He added that another sore
     point was that band members didn't like his
     telling them to record more songs for an album
     they thought was finished, though Sony agreed with
     him. (The as-yet-untitled album has been postponed
     from a September release to Nov. 24.)

     Meanwhile, Aerosmith will manage itself and has
     installed guitarist Joe Perry as chairman of the
     board.

     ``It's really a bitch,'' bassist Tom Hamilton said
     yesterday. ``I really can't say anything at this
     point. It's too fresh and we're just formulating
     exactly what we want to say.''

     The inevitable question is whether some Aerosmith
     members have backslid into drugs. ``It's a big
     question, isn't it?'' Collins said. ``There's a
     certain element in the group that hasn't totally
     chosen sobriety.''

     Hamilton laughed when asked whether members are
     using drugs again. ```Oh no! They're shooting up
     again!' No. You can say everybody in the band is
     healthy and psyched about the new record.''

     ``Since this is an issue between Aerosmith and
     management, we don't comment on such,'' said a
     Sony Records representative.

     Rumors leaked in recent days that Collins and
     Aerosmith were on the outs - and Collins has since
     been flooded with offers. He said he has turned
     down managerial offers from Guns N' Roses, Pearl
     Jam, Bruce Hornsby and from Kiss to handle its
     comeback tour.

     ``I've had five offers this week,'' said Collins.
     He wouldn't divulge them, but sources said that
     two are from international bands and one is from a
     multi national record company.

     ``Tim Collins will prosper and succeed, because
     he's driven by honesty,'' said Larry Moulter,
     former president of the FleetCenter who is now
     president of Bob Woolf Associates. ``There will
     always be someone who will want to manage
     Aerosmith, but there's only one Tim Collins.''

     Collins, 42, started with Aerosmith 12 years ago,
     having managed Perry for two years before that.
     ``Joe was living on my couch as a heroin addict,''
     said Collins, who has admitted that he had a
     hard-drug problem at that time as well.

     As for Aerosmith, he said, ``When I came in, they
     were dying, emaciated, millions of dollars in debt
     and had 32 lawsuits.'' Aerosmith's record sales
     have since jumped from 400,000 copies of ``Done
     with Mirrors'' to 14.5 million of ``Get a Grip.''

     ``I don't want to hurt Aerosmith. I think they're
     the greatest rock 'n' roll band in the world,''
     Collins said. ``I hope they connect with the right
     energy and the right people.''

     This story ran on page e1 of the Boston Globe on
     08/01/96.

    Joe Perry as chairman of the board??!??
    
    That's pretty scary ....
    
    I hope they keep it together. They are a real band.

>    pretty sad what's become of this guy.  I guess he should be thankful he
>    still has a day job since he can't hold down a decent gig.
    
    Well... who better to evaluate other guitar players than the master
    himself.
    
    I mean, Joe Satriani writing a review of Steve Morse's guitar playing
    would be like Pia Zadora writing a critique of Meryl Streep's acting.

>|    Well... who better to evaluate other guitar players than the master
>|    himself.
    
>    yeah, from music to sports, the doers really respect the opinions of 
>    the wannabe watching journalists.  db, I never thought you'd call your
>    boy a master wannabe.
    
    You're losing your touch.  This was really feeble Mike.
    
    ;-)
    
    	db

    AeroSmith has Named Wendy Laister as Their New_Manager.Shes Worked with
    The Band fer The Last 3_Years as A Consultant and Vice_President of
    Creative_Services fer Collins Management.
    
    
       Crazy_People_Say_Aero_Are_Anti_Woman...BAHHHH_Al
    
       Now Some of The Lyrics are A Different Story. :_)

    Bad_Rumor Goin on That Tyler is Back On The Smack and Band_Members are
    Threating to Disolve the Band if he doen't Knock_It_Off.
    
    
        Crazy_Oh_No_Al
    

    Well, after hearing the new tune "Falling in Love (is hard on my
    knees)"  for the first time...I'm not overly impressed.  
    
    It might grow on me eventually...but I miss the old tunes that would
    instantly get my attention and keep me rockin'.
    
    They are definitly more "POPROCK" than "Rock" now...too bad.
    
    	J

    
    IMO they've been that way for awhile now....too bad too! I like their
    older stuff much better than this POPROCK stuff they (and others) are
    playing over the past few years or so. Granted I did see them a couple
    yrs ago at the Centrum and it was a good show, a TAD too loud but a
    fairly decent mix of tunes old/new. More new though....
    
    

    Yester_Day The Radio_Station WAAF Played The Whole New Album Just to
     Prove to Rival Station WBCN That They Had it.This is Illegal Because
    The Album Hasn't Been Released Yet.Steve Tylers Wife Heard Them Playin
    it And She Paged Him at WBCN where He Was Doin An InterView with
     Howard Stern.He Flipped_Out and Call The Bands Managment Who Called
    Columbia Records who Took WAAF to"Cease and Desist"and Destroy Their
    Copy of The CD..
    
         Crazy_Whooppppie_Al

    Holy Snikeys!!!!  
    I heard the 1st single... I like it...
    
    SueJ

    "Falling in Love(is Hard on the Knees)"is one of Three Songs on "Nine
    Lives"That Tyler and Perry Co_Wrote with Glen Ballard,whos Stock Soared
    after his collaboration with Alanis Morisette on her Grammy Winning
    "Jagged Little Pill".Ballard was Hired to Work on"Nine Lives"when
    AerSmith's Usual Producer,Bruce Fairbairn,was busy with the
    Cranberries.For Dimly Explained Reasons,Ballard was Cut_Loose after
    the Album was Nearly Finished.He was RePlaced by a Relative UnKnown,
    Kevin Shirley,Whose Credits Include Work with SilverChair and Journey.
    
      Crazy_I_Find_That_A_Bit_STrange_Al

    
    FYI:
    
    Aerosmith is scheduled to appear as the musical guest on the March 22nd
    Saturday Night Live.

    All right, so now two '80's Icon's can go out in one big SuperNova!
    
    Just kidding...
    
    It won't be as big as a SuperNova...[^;=
    
    	J

    Hey J.   
    If yer Gonna Call AeroSmith an 80's Icon..Yer Wrong.
     They;re an 70's,80's and 90's Icon!
      Stick_That_In_Yer_Tidy_Bowl_And_Flush_It!   :_)
    
    .For Those of us in New_England...FM Radio_Station,ROCK 101 will be
    Playin an InterView with The Band on 3/13/97 at 10PM.
    
       Crazy_They'll_Also_Be_Playin_Alot_Of_The_New_Album_Al         

    
    	No, they're a 70's icon and an 80's and 90's hangon.
    

    No,They're A Dessert_Toppin!No,THey're Floor_Wax!!!

no. they're has-beens. Like the Adam Sandler bit, I think their more
popular recent singles all sound the same, and I liked them more when
they were drunk. One tune like "Love in an Elevator" is more than enough.

    Now I know why they call ya "Crazy_Al"!  [^;=
    
    	Yes, I did neglect to add that they were a'70's Icon...but compared
    to their old stuff...Back in the Saddle, Sweet Emotion, Hangman Jury,
    Dude, they've slid a little.  (IMO)  I mean they still make the odd
    great tunes and tunes worthy of radio play...but nothing like the past.
    
    	J

    Seasons of Wither
    Lord of the Thighs

    
    Their new stuff all sounds pop radio (which it is of course) and have
    seriously sunk in my opinion (which of course may not count for much at
    times...) and will not listen to ANY of their new(er) stuff since
    the Kings and Queens timeframe (forget name of album) and personally
    have not purchased ANYTHING of theirs in YEARS! ;-)
    
    

                             AEROSMITH
                        "Seasons of Wither"
                       from _Get Your Wings_

Intro Fig. (fade in, 7x)
   N.C.
 e+-----------------|-----------------|  Replace   |-----------------|
 B+-----------------|-----------------|  the last  |-----------------|
 G+-----0-----0-----|-----0-----0-----|  measure   |-----0-----0-----|
 D+---0-----0-----0-|---2-----3-----3-|  of the    |---2-----3-----5-|
 A+-------1---------|-0-----1-----1---|  last rep  |-0-----1-----3---|
 E+-3-----------3---|-----------------|  with:     |-----------------|

Bridge Fig. (4x)
    D                           C                    D     C   Bb  F
  |-----------------|-----------------|  Replace   |-----------------|
  |-7-----7---------|-7-----7---5-----|  the last  |-7-7---5---3-----|
  |-7-----7---------|-7-----7---5-----|  measure   |-7-7---5---3-----|
  |-7-----7---------|-7-----7---5-----|  of the    |-7-7---5---3---3-|
  |-5-----5---------|-5-----5---3-----|  last rep  |-5-5---3---1---3-|
  |-----------------|-----------------|  with:     |---------------1-|

Verse Fig. (5x)
   Em                F                 D/F#              G
 |-----------------|-----------------|-----------------|-----------------|
 |-----------------|-----------------|-----------------|-----------------|
 |-----2-----0-----|-----2-----0-----|-----2-----2-----|-----0-----0-----|
 |---0-----0-----0-|---0-----0-----0-|---0-----0-----0-|---0-----0-----0-|
 |-----------------|-----------------|-----------------|-----------------|
 |-0-----0-----0---|-1-----1-----1---|-2-----2-----2---|-3-----3-----3---|

-loose hearted lady, sleepy was she
-love for the devil brought her to me
-tears of a thousand drawn to her sin
-Seasons of Wither holdin' me in

CHORUS:
~~~~~~
   G                 C                 G/B
 |-----------------|-----------------|-----------------|
 |-----------------|-----------------|-----------------|
 |-----0-----0-----|-----0-----0-----|-----2-----0-----|
 |---0-----0-----0-|---2-----2-----2-|---0-----0-----0-|
 |-----------------|-3-----3-----3---|-2-----2-----2---|
 |-3-----3-----3---|-----------------|-----------------|
-                    ooh     always me       I feel so
-                    ooh     always me       I feel so

   Em                F                 G
 |-----------------|-----------------|-----------------|
 |-----------------|-----------------|-----------------|
 |-----2-----0-----|-----2-----0-----|-----0-----0-----|
 |---0-----0-----0-|---0-----0-----0-|---0-----0-----0-|
 |-----------------|-----------------|-----------------|
 |-0-----0-----0---|-1-----1-----1---|-3-----3-----3---|
-  ba -             - adly       for   you
-  sa -             - adly       for   you   at times

   A7                Bb                C
 |-----------------|-----------------|-----------------|
 |-----------------|-----------------|-----------------|
 |-----0-----0-----|-----0-----0-----|-----0-----0-----|
 |---2-----2-----2-|---3-----3-----3-|---2-----2-----2-|
 |-0-----0-----0---|-1-----1-----1---|-3-----3-----3---|
 |-----------------|-----------------|-----------------|

-bound to lose your mind
-live on borrowed time
-take the wind right out of your sails
[end CHORUS]

w/Bridge Fig. (6x)
-fireflies dance in the heat of
-hound dogs that bay at the moon
-my ship leaves in the midnight
-can't say I'll be back too soon

w/Verse Fig. (4x)
-they awaken far far away
-heat of my candle show me the way
-seas of a thousand drawn to her sin
-Seasons of Wither holdin' me in

[CHORUS]

Bridge Fig. (4x)

Verse Fig. (first 3 measures only)

Intro Fig. (4x)

end on D chord (x5777x).

--------------------

There is a fill near the end that goes something like..

--------------12------------------------------------------------------
-15-------15----------------------------15----------------------------
------------------14b16r14-12----14-----14b16r14--12-------[fdbk]-----
----------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------------------------------------------
    

	I changed the station 25 seconds into the song...it sucked

	/Cap'n Quad_who_stopped_listenin'_at_Draw_The_Line

    I hate that song! I hate it. It's so irritating and unoriginal.

    Well,I Heard The Premiere of The New Album Last_Nite...Along With An
    Interview with The Band from Mama Kin's.
    
      For All of Those of You Who Hate The"New"AeroSmith...You'll Probably
    REALLY Dispise this You!!
    
    
       Crazy_Pink_Al

    Aerosmith on SNL next week.....

    
    	Great!!
    
    	Now instead of "The cast sucks, so I won't watch it", I have two
    	reasons to skip the show!!
    

    Bite me DOUGHBOY! 8}

    
    	OK, indicate a spot and I promise I'll bite you within 3 feet or
    	so.  Maybe I'll even be nice and just nibble a bit.
    

    filthaaaa.

    
    	Yes, but only if it's done right.
    

    Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!

    I think (IMHO) I'm gonna have to eat my words about this album.  SO far
    they're batting about .600 with me.  I still dislike the Knees tune but
    I 've heard two others that I like, "a taste for India" and something
    about raising a drinkin' glass.  Just when ya think ya should put the
    ol'dog to sleep...ya cath'em humpin'your neighbors leg!   Hhmph!
    
    	J