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| 2697.1 | Sorry, it's one of those days... | DREGS::BLICKSTEIN | My name is Victoria Winters | Thu Mar 25 1993 11:01 | 5 | 
|  |     If I'm in the band, the perfect set is:
    
    	o The Minute Waltz
    
    Then I pack up and go home earlier.  ;-)
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| 2697.2 | Exhausted just thinking about it... | KDX200::COOPER | Let The Light Surround You!! | Thu Mar 25 1993 11:36 | 16 | 
|  |     To me ??
    
    The perfect set:
                           
    2112 Overture (Rush)
    Temples of Syrynx (Rush)
    Red Barchetta (Rush)
    Pull Me Under (Dream Theater)
    Surrounded (Dream Theater)
    Operation Mindcrime (Queensryche)
    Jet City Women (Queensryche)
    Hanger 18 (MegaDeth)
    
    Encore:
    
    WarPigs (Black Sabbath)
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| 2697.3 | good grief..... | NAVY5::SDANDREA | Send lawyers, guns, and money! | Thu Mar 25 1993 12:02 | 1 | 
|  |     re: .2
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| 2697.4 |  | NWACES::HICKERNELL | Back to your oar, 41. | Thu Mar 25 1993 12:09 | 3 | 
|  |     I dunno, man, but it would include some Seger.
    
    Dave
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| 2697.5 | How about "none of the above" | GOES11::G_HOUSE | ThatsWhenIreachedForMyRevolver | Thu Mar 25 1993 12:27 | 9 | 
|  |     Lynyrd Skynyrd
    Led Zeppelin
    Seger
    
    ...woah.  Wait a minute.  Whew!
    
    It was JUST A *BAD* DREAM!
    
    gh
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| 2697.6 |  | LEDS::BURATI | never gonna do it without the fez on | Thu Mar 25 1993 12:54 | 1 | 
|  |     Christy Brinkley's got a perfect set.
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| 2697.7 | Deja Vu | DREGS::BLICKSTEIN | My name is Victoria Winters | Thu Mar 25 1993 13:20 | 6 | 
|  |     Boston - Foreplay/Longtime
    Yes - South Side of the Sky
    Elton John - Funeral for a Friend
    Kansas - Point of Know Return
    Kansas - Song for America
    Styx - Come Sail Away
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| 2697.8 | FREEBIRD (NOT!!!!!!!) | CSC32::B_KNOX | Rock'n'Roll Refugee | Thu Mar 25 1993 15:07 | 23 | 
|  |     AJA 	        - Steely Dan
    
    SHE'S A WOMAN       - Jeff Beck (cover of Beatles tune)
    
    STRUGGLE OF TURTLE  - Jean-Luc Ponty
    TO THE SEA 
    (PTS. I,II,III,IV)
    
    TAKE THE TIME       - Dream Theatre
    
    PSYCOBABBLE         - Alan Parson's Project
    
    I APOLOGIZE         - Larry Carlton
    
    BUBBLE SHUFFLE      - Larry Carlton
    
    CAUSE WE"VE ENDED   - Jeff Beck (cover of Stevie Wonder tune)
    AS LOVERS
    
    
    And ... FREEBIRD (NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
    
    /BillY_K
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| 2697.9 |  | KDX200::COOPER | Let The Light Surround You!! | Thu Mar 25 1993 16:10 | 7 | 
|  |     Good call on Come Sail Away, db!!!  And Foreplay/Longtime!!
    
    jc (who'll stick with his though...)
    
    PS - WarPigs, not because of it's techincal difficulty, but because its
    SO DARN FUN to play!!
    jc
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| 2697.10 | And you get a $1000 a night | GIDDAY::KNIGHTP | I'll get you with my disentigrating pistol | Thu Mar 25 1993 20:40 | 14 | 
|  |     fun to play perfect set
    	
    	Little sister (presley/moore version)
    	Pokesalad annie
    	Liberty
    	Crosscut saw
    	Twenty flight rock
    	Shes got the jack
    	Come back again
    	Sultans of swing
    
     Encore
    	Five beers and a really good chilli pizza,with roadie.
    	
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| 2697.11 |  | DABEAN::REAUME | light 2 dark,dark 2 light | Fri Mar 26 1993 07:04 | 6 | 
|  |     
    
      ...twenty flight rock? MONTROSE? 
    
    
      
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| 2697.12 | all my faves | GOOROO::DCLARK | I do believe I've had enough | Fri Mar 26 1993 08:29 | 14 | 
|  |     Cisco			Pat Martino
    Bluesology			Joe Pass
    Night Life			BB King
    All Over Now		Bobby Womack
    Eyes of the World		Grateful Dead
    Running Down a Dream	Petty
    Stir It Up			Bob Marley
    Powderfinger		Neil Young
    Georgia on my Mind		?
    Sympathy for the Devil	Stones
    
    Encore:
    
    White Room			EC
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| 2697.13 | If I had my druthers... | NAVY5::SDANDREA | Send lawyers, guns, and money! | Fri Mar 26 1993 09:01 | 20 | 
|  |     Ok, I'll bite
    
    old guy best set:
    
    White Room 			Cream
    Carry On			Kansas
    All Right Now		Free
    Feel Like Makin Love        Bad Co
    Rocky Mnt Way		Joe Walsh
    Can't Ya See		Marshall Tucker (with Coop and Bulldawg
    				tradin' leads!)
    Badge			Cream
    Long Way There		Little River band
    Heartache Tonight		Eagles
    
    encore:
    
    Seven Bridges Road		Eagles
    
    Steve (who loves guitars and tight vocal harmonies)
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| 2697.14 | Too Tired To Rock | TECRUS::ROST | Louis Prima in a previous life | Fri Mar 26 1993 09:13 | 8 | 
|  |     Re: .11
    
    >...twenty flight rock? MONTROSE? 
    
    Are you serious?  You must be even younger than I thought you were,
    Boom  8^)  8^)
    
    						Eddie C.
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| 2697.15 | once in a lifetime | 29633::STPALY::J_KUHN | Janitor of lunacy | Fri Mar 26 1993 10:16 | 10 | 
|  |     	Marcella	   Beach boys
    	The Noonward Race  Mahavishnu Orchestra
        Uncle Remus	   Zappa
        Endless Enigma     ELP
        Low Self Opinion   Rollins Band
        Santa Dog          The Residents
    
    Just to throw people. It would be worth it. It would also be a short
    night.
    
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| 2697.16 |  | KERNEL::FLOWERS | Quality is our No.1 goal... | Tue Mar 30 1993 07:08 | 9 | 
|  |     
    
    	Black Betty - American Ram Jam.
    	Young Lust  - Pink Floyd.
    	
    
    	That's all I can think of for the mo...
    
    	J
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| 2697.17 | R.E.O SPEEDWAGON | CSLALL::ONEILL |  | Mon Apr 12 1993 10:39 | 6 | 
|  |     We recently got to put the band in front of some people
    and the last two of the four we did were sympathy for the devil going
    imediately into riding the storm out. It turned some heads.
    Thanks again side effects.
    
                                                           Jim
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| 2697.18 |  | GJO001::REITER | I don't talk to the military. | Mon Apr 12 1993 11:37 | 3 | 
|  |     What I wouldn't give for the chords to Ridin' The Storm Out.
    Thanks,
    \Gary
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| 2697.19 | In no particular order. | SUBSYS::GODIN |  | Tue Apr 13 1993 16:22 | 15 | 
|  |     Flirtin With Disaster       Molly Hatchett
    Green Grass & High Tides	Outlaws 
    More Than A Feeling		Boston
    Cowboy Song			Thin Lizzy
    Magic Man			Heart
    Cliffs Of Dover 		Eric Johnson
    One				Metallica
    Crazy Train 		Ozzy
    Whiter Shade of Pale	Procol Harum (token slow song)
    Rio				Duran Duran
    Won't Get Fooled Again	The Who
    Reelin' In The Years	Steely Dan
    Hocus Pocus			Focus
    Liar			Queen
    (That's about a set worth.)
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| 2697.20 |  | KDX200::COOPER | Let The Light Surround You!! | Tue Apr 13 1993 17:43 | 6 | 
|  |     >One				Metallica
    
    Yike!  I hope you have a good drummer!!
    
    jc
    
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| 2697.21 | no problem | FRETZ::HEISER | nothing but the blood | Tue Apr 13 1993 19:41 | 1 | 
|  |     Pete can play it with 1 hand!
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| 2697.22 |  | POWDML::BUCKLEY | It's nicer than Betty Monroe had! | Tue Apr 13 1993 20:59 | 1 | 
|  |     ...in his sleep!
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| 2697.23 | play something you know | CSLALL::ONEILL |  | Wed Apr 14 1993 06:30 | 1 | 
|  |     As a rule, how many songs usually make up a set?
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| 2697.24 |  | TECRUS::ROST | Don't fry bacon in the nude | Wed Apr 14 1993 06:53 | 6 | 
|  |     Re: .23
    
    Most clubs we play at expect 45 minutes to an hour per set.  At some
    gigs (like weddings) set length may be stipulated in the contract.
    
    							Brian
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| 2697.25 |  | KDX200::COOPER | Let The Light Surround You!! | Wed Apr 14 1993 10:00 | 6 | 
|  |     Between 12-14 tunes .eq. SET
    
    Most places I've played at here in Colorado want (3)45 minute sets, and
    a (1) 60 minute set.  Your mileage may vary.
    
    jc
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| 2697.26 |  | QRYCHE::STARR | in somebody else's sky.... | Wed Apr 14 1993 10:30 | 16 | 
|  | >    Between 12-14 tunes .eq. SET
 
For See No Evil, it tends to be 10 or 11 songs, maybe 12 sometimes. Most
rock songs seem to average about four minutes nowadays, so 11 songs at 4
minutes each = 45 minutes.
> Most places I've played at here in Colorado want (3)45 minute sets, and
> a (1) 60 minute set.  Your mileage may vary.
Same here:
9:00pm  - 9:45pm
10:00pm - 10:45pm
11:00pm - 11:45pm
12:00am - 1:00am
alan
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| 2697.27 |  | LUNER::KELLYJ | submit to Barney | Wed Apr 14 1993 10:30 | 2 | 
|  |     My country band plays four 45 minute sets, with about a dozen songs in
    each set.
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| 2697.28 | Options | GOES11::G_HOUSE | I came, I saw, I left... | Wed Apr 14 1993 11:43 | 11 | 
|  |     On the other hand, my friend's alternative band found that a lot of the
    crowd would leave between their sets, so they played longer sets to
    keep the crowd there and dancing.  They'd play a normal one for the
    first set and then two longer ones and end the evening, the long ones
    were usually about 90 minutes each for the second and third set.
    
    Worked real well for them, your mileage may vary.  Seems like it takes
    between 4-6 songs before you really get the crowd up for dancing, then
    you play about 3-4 more and take a break and a lot of 'em leave.
    
    Greg
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| 2697.29 |  | KDX200::COOPER | Let The Light Surround You!! | Wed Apr 14 1993 11:53 | 6 | 
|  |     Always save your good stuff for later also...
    And NEVER wait too long between songs.  The best sets are ones where
    you get 'em on the dance floor and don't give 'em a chance to sit down
    between songs...
    
    (IMHO)
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| 2697.30 |  | USPMLO::DESROCHERS |  | Wed Apr 14 1993 11:53 | 25 | 
|  |     
    	My old GB band was the same - 45 min with about 12 tunes.
    	But I think there should be less songs - more like 8.  Dance
    	bands will groove a tune for 10 minutes and slowly turn up 
    	the heat.  I said before that I felt like George Harrison with
    	all the 4 minute max tunes.  Soloist never get to stretch - just
    	state that melody and get back to the vocal.
    
    	Yuck City to me.  The most fun I ever had with that band was a 10
    	minute jam after setup - and that happened just once.  Other than
    	"Cause we ended as Lovers" and "Johnny B. Goode", there was no
    	stretching out.
    
    	Also, as a dancing audience member, why would I want a different
    	song/beat/style every 3 to 4 minutes?  If it were a singles club,
    	why would I want that slow tune to end before I asked her what 
    	her name was?  
    
    	To me, we musicians should extend that solo a bit and groove that
    	outtro more.  Heck, acts that are still in the basement could
    	conceivably come out with 25 or so tunes.  
    
    	My 2 bits - Tom
    
    	
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| 2697.31 |  | DREGS::BLICKSTEIN | My other PC is a Mac | Wed Apr 14 1993 12:55 | 4 | 
|  |     The owners usually tell us 3 or 4 sets and then we just end up doing
    pretty much whatever we feel like doing.
    
    We LOVE to play, so often we skip breaks.  
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| 2697.32 |  | GOES11::G_HOUSE | I came, I saw, I left... | Wed Apr 14 1993 13:13 | 4 | 
|  |     I don't think they care if you take less breaks then they ask for, it's
    only if you take *more*.
    
    Greg
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| 2697.33 |  | DREGS::BLICKSTEIN | My other PC is a Mac | Wed Apr 14 1993 13:40 | 9 | 
|  |     > I don't think they care if you take less breaks then they ask for,
    > it's only if you take *more*.
    
    Actually, it depends on what you're talking about.
    
    Clubs, according to what I'm told, WANT you to take breaks because
    that's when people order the most drinks.
    
    At weddings, they're happy to have you play all night.  
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| 2697.34 |  | GOES11::G_HOUSE | I came, I saw, I left... | Wed Apr 14 1993 13:48 | 9 | 
|  | >    Clubs, according to what I'm told, WANT you to take breaks because
>    that's when people order the most drinks.
    
    Hmm...my observation would say that's also when most people leave. 
    They won't be buying drinks on their way out, and certainly won't be
    buying drinks after they're gone. I'd be interested in seeing which
    approach produced the best result.
    
    Greg
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| 2697.35 |  | KDX200::COOPER | Let The Light Surround You!! | Wed Apr 14 1993 13:58 | 7 | 
|  |     My cut is:
    
    Make 'em dance till they puke, then they'll buy drinks to wash it back
    down and dance some more.  Make 'em buy the BAND drinks!!
    :-)
    
    jc
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| 2697.36 |  | TECRUS::ROST | Don't fry bacon in the nude | Wed Apr 14 1993 14:01 | 7 | 
|  |     I still think the ultimate is in "Animal Crackers" when Groucho Marx
    asks pianist Chico how much money it would cost to have him not play
    the piano at all. 
    
    Chico says, "Ahhh, you don' have that much money".
    
    							Barfo
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| 2697.37 | W.C. Fields? | ZYMRGY::sam | Idiots Rule | Wed Apr 14 1993 14:07 | 7 | 
|  |    Or:
   "Excuse me sir, can you tell me how to get to Carnege Hall?"
   "Practice, my boy, practice."
   -- Sam
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| 2697.38 |  | GOES11::G_HOUSE | I came, I saw, I left... | Wed Apr 14 1993 14:27 | 7 | 
|  | > Make 'em buy the BAND drinks!!
    
    There ya go, help the house sell drinks by beggin the audience to buy
    ya some...
    :-)
    
gh
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| 2697.39 | Do Oh what a night-gets em everytime | GIDDAY::KNIGHTP | get me a gin and pentatonic | Wed Apr 14 1993 17:03 | 27 | 
|  |     This is an interesting rathole
    
    	It seems that about 40-45mins is the universal set length,same
    here. One thing I dont particularly agree with is leaving your
    good songs till last.  This is not really a good idea.  Think about it
    possibly the reason you leave your best material is so that
    (unconciously) you finish the gig on a high note.  I used to do
    this and on a 4 set night,the first set would start slow,second warmup
    third kick and fourth take off, problem is at most of my gigs during
    the last hour (4th set ) people seem to have that one drink that sets
    them over the edge and it really doesn't matter what you play (within
    reason).
    	One thing I need to have is within the first 2 - 3 songs I have to 
    do something that kicks or I just find it hard to get going.(its this
    reason I don't like playing weddings or function gigs).  The best gigs
    for me are where I get to do a full sound check, have a shower (o'night 
    gigs are the best) then have a couple of drinks and go on and start
    with "All fired UP" then "Early Warning" then "Summer 69" or whatever.
    	 If I have to play "Moondance" "Romeo and Juliet" "Step In Step
    Out" etc Its hard to get going.
    	One thing which always seems to happen I call the third set blues
    I start to go off the boil a bit, things start to sound funny,
    motivation drops a bit and I don't feel comfortable, It passes within
    a couple of songs but always seems to happen.
    	
    
    	P.K.
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| 2697.40 |  | KDX200::COOPER | Let The Light Surround You!! | Wed Apr 14 1993 21:42 | 7 | 
|  |     Ahhhh...  See, there you have it !!!  You cannot have ANY weak tunes 
    in your set !!!  period!!!
    
    It's true though....  With four people in your band, if one guy 
    thinks it's lame, then it's probably lame.   Can It !!!
    
    jc
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| 2697.41 | Put the pedal to the metal | LUNER::KELLYJ | submit to Barney | Thu Apr 15 1993 06:39 | 3 | 
|  |     Yeah, Goldrush used to use the first set to warm up the crowd, but no
    longer.  We just come out and crank to the best of our ability from the
    moment the first set starts.
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