Conference napalm::guitar

    Demeter is a small shop making hand-built amps, in the tradition
    of Dumble, Rivera, early Mesa, etc.  The guy's name is Demeter, as
    you would imagine.  There was a review in Dave Hick's GP column,
    roughly a year ago? (I'm guessing, will try to dig up the exact
    issue for you).  Three "channels' (clean, overdriven, hi-gain)
    and expensive.

    
    
    	Did you notice if the cab was loaded with JBL's ??

    
    
    I was a little too distracted by Darryl Hannah (Jackson Browne brought
    her) who was about 20 feet away, to be real concerned about equipment
    internals...
    
    FWIW, the cones were entirely black.  For some reason I expected Bonnie
    to be playing through some sort of Fender amp.  But she got great tone
    out of that little Demeter.  I liked it even better than what I've
    heard on her CDs.
    
    Bonnie's guitar player (forgot his name) had a rack driving a Hughes &
    Kettner cabinet.  It sounded OK...
    

    Bonnie used a Jim Kelley FACS amp for years, up until the switch to
    Demeter on the latest album and tour.  So what you're hearing on "Nick
    of Time" and earlier is the Kelley.  Admittedly, a very Fender'ish
    sounding amp.  I personally don't detect much if any change in her
    sound on the new album.
    
    There's a Jim Kelley amp note in here somewhere, where I had posted some
    more details about this amp.
    
    /rick

    Hey Rick, waddabout the Vox AC30 of Jackson Browne's that she plugs in
    the liner notes of the new album...
    
    						Brian

    I'd like to hear more elaboration on Daryll Hannah, not that I'm
    disinterested in amps. Bonnie's pretty cool lookin too. 
    
    "sakman"

    
    
    Yeah, I was gonna mention how great Darryl looked, but I couldn't find
    the Darryl Hannah note...  just as well, don't want to screw up my shot
    at the Supreme Court.
    
    

    If you've been responding to this conference, you have no shot at the
    Supreme Court.

    Back a couple of years ago I say Bonnie using what looked like a
    blackface Vibrolux Reverb. Anybody know what that Fender was that she
    foresaked for the Demeter stack?

    --rjb (waiting for a previously entered note to raise some hell. I may
    have to get rough here)

    Ron,
    
    	That was probably a Jim Kelley Facs amp as they are similiar in
    size and looks if you saw it a couple of years ago. I seem to remember
    having someone tell me that she used a Kelley when she did her "Nick of
    Time" tour in New England....
    
    
    							Rick
    

    Rick,

    Uh, I caught a good enough shot of it on TV to clearly see the Fender
    logo. In all respects it looked like a Deluxe or a Vibrolux as I could
    see only 3 controls on the normal channel (oh, to be politically correct
    I should say the "vibrato challenged" channel). I couldn't quite tell if
    there was a middle control on the vibrato channel. (I taped it and ran
    it back a few times). It appeared to be a bit large for a Deluxe. Of
    course, maybe she used her studio stuff in LA (Tonight Show) and she
    tours with newer, more reliable stuff.

    BTW, I've never heard of Jim Kelley amps.

    --ron

    Maybe it was a an NBC "house" amp or something.  I've seen dozens
    of bass players on the Tonight Show, Today, Letterman, etc. using
    the what looks like the same SVT.
    
    Bonnie's main amp for years was definitely a Kelley, up until the
    recent switch to Demeter.

    Ron,

	I thought you were refering to a concert you saw her play,yeah 
a Fender logo wouldn't be found on a Kelley. :^) I remember seeing her on TV
with what seemed to be some sort of smallish Fender Tweed and she got some
great tones. :^)    (SNL?)

>Of course, maybe she used her studio stuff in LA (Tonight Show) and she
>   tours with newer, more reliable stuff.

>   BTW, I've never heard of Jim Kelley amps.

 	I seem to remember reading something in Aspen's book about Kelley
amp's. And there is a note somewhere in the conference. However Jim Kelley
designed and built some real reliable hardware.  His amp design had 4 6v6's
(double Deluxe)active tone circuits,with channel switching/load box's etc.
And unlike alot of "today's" amp's he was interested in getting power 
section distortion instead of preamp style distortion. He had alot of 
impressive ideas,but lost interest after while.....
	My impression of the piece I remember playing through was it was 
a great Strat/blues amp.  I'd suspect you'd like it.....But they are rare
and go for top dollars as Jim Kelley got out of buisness years ago. 

							Rick
                          

     
      ... I always seem to take an interest in these off-brand amplifiers.
    I had seen the Demeters in last years buyers guide and they seem to be 
    tied together as Demeter/Innovative Audio Systems this year. I've never
    seen one in a store. But then again they are not cheap and the amp
    market isn't really booming these days. 
      Regarding the Kelley amp and the 6V6 power tubes - All the more
    reason for me to love my Kitty Hawk M5 that cost me $175. I really
    think this is my favorite sounding all-tube amp. The M1 has a little
    bit more edge to it and acts more British w/EL34's. But the M5
    is really warm and fat. I would think any of the 6V6 amps in decent
    working order would have some of these characteristics. 
      I think the Demeter all-tube amps are EL34's though.
    
    							-B()()M-