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Conference napalm::guitar

Title:	GUITARnotes - Where Every Note has Emotion
Notice:	Discussion of the finer stringed instruments
Moderator:	KDX200::COOPER

Created:	Thu Aug 14 1986
Last Modified:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	3280
Total number of notes:	61432

2041.0. "SONG AND MESSAGE" by DNEAST::PUSHARD_MIKE () Mon Nov 26 1990 12:07

          
                                                          By

                 BE HIS CHILDREN                          MICHAEL H. PUSHARD
                                                          RFD #2 BOX 3980
                                                          NEWPORT,ME 04953
                                                          NOVEMBER 20TH,1990
           SEE THE CHILDREN,HOW THEY SAY                 

           WHAT WE WANT,IS TO PRAY                    

           THAT WE CAN,STAY AWAY

           FROM THE KILLING,OF TODAY

             LET ME SAY,IF I MAY

             FROM A CHILD IS OUR WAY

           SEEK THE PEACE OF A MOUNTAIN

           FOLLOW THE PATH OF LOVE
 
           DO WHAT YOU CAN TO SPREAD ITS MESSAGE

           AND REMEMBER,IT CAN BE DONE

           
           TAKE THE TIME,LOOK AROUND YOU

           SEE WHATS HAPPENING,HERE TODAY

           WHAT WE NEED,TO COME TOGETHER

           UNITY IS THE WAY

             ASK THE CHILDREN,IF YOU WILL

             FROM A CHILD WILL BE THE WAY

           TURN TO HIM,THAT LOVES AND GUIDES YOU

           FOR THE MESSAGE OF OUR AGE

           BE HIS CHILDREN,PLANT HIS GARDEN

           SHARE HIS LOVE,FROM TODAY
    
    
       I am going to be leaving Digital in a month,and,would like to thank
    you all for the fellowship in this conference. It has been a very good
    experience for me. The song above is one I wrote by inspiration,to be
    used for the promotion of peace and unity in the World. Use it for that
    purpose. If you would like to have the music for it,write to me,I have
    made a recording of it. I will use it for only the purpose in which it
    was written,no personal gain will be had. You may make copies and
    distribute them for cost or free. Anything in reguards to
    copywrite,please write me,for,I have exclusive writes to this. I hope
    you will continue this note in my absense,and,help the cause. God bless
    you all,we may meet again some day. Any well wishes please send off
    line,thank-you.
    
    Peace
    Michael

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
2041.1	Submit it to Tom !	GSRC::COOPER	MIDI Rack Puke	`Mon Nov 26 1990 12:31`	7
	Mike, why don't you send a copy of your tape to Tom Gallo as a submission to the GUITAR NOTES tape ?? That way you'll be imortalized a a DECcie/Guitar Noter, and we can all hear this song ? jc
2041.2	ditto!	HAMER::KRON		`Mon Nov 26 1990 13:55`	1

2041.3	addresss	DNEAST::PUSHARD_MIKE		`Mon Nov 26 1990 14:30`	5
	A good idea...An address please. Thanks. Mike
2041.4	song structure	XOANAN::HEISER	my son is student of the month	`Mon Apr 08 1991 14:00`	9
	Sorry mods, but I didn't know where else to put this... Can someone recommend some reading material on song construction? I haven't been writing long, but usually just write what I feel. I don't know anything about song structure, but would like to. What are some "standard" techniques that you use? Mike
2041.5	verse, chorus, bridg	LEDS::BURATI	Infidel THIS!	`Mon Apr 08 1991 14:31`	47
	RE .4 I'm not sure if you mean song development or structure. If it's structure that you want, my favorite pop arrangements are usually something like these: intro verse chorus verse chorus bridge verse chorus chorus out or intro verse verse chorus verse chorus bridge verse chorus chorus out The Beatles' EIGHT DAYS A WEEK was different, probably because they didn't have more lyrics. It went something like this: intro verse chorus bridge verse chorus bridge verse chorus out Remember, the bridge is very important.
2041.6	clarification	XOANAN::HEISER	my son is student of the month	`Mon Apr 08 1991 16:00`	3
	I guess I meant development. Mike
2041.7	humm a few bars	LEDS::BURATI	Infidel THIS!	`Mon Apr 08 1991 16:24`	4
	AAAHHHH. Well that's much different. I haven't quite figured that one out yet. Ron
2041.8	Off the track?	BEEZER::FLOWERS	I have a burning ambition...	`Tue Apr 09 1991 03:05`	33
	All I could suggest (I have only just started writing stuff) is that you tape everything you play when you sit down to fiddle, that you make notes somewhere of every line you think up or every line you hear someone say....you know when the old lady on the train sat next to comes out with a comment and you think 'Wow great lyrics'....write it all down. Then wait a while. Then start to write, if you get to a point where you think 'What the hell am I going to do next', make sure you have what you've got down already written/taped and then..... Wait a while. If you do this for a while you will end up with loads of stuff that will hopefully help you finish things up, or spark off new stuff. The only thing I would say to avoid is the old 'I'm gonna sit down and write a song' mainly coz I can't do it that way (I've tried) and it gets you down. Just my HO J. (Who just this weekend wrote what he thinks is a killer hook! but then again he would!!!!) PS. Even better than carrying around a notepad is one of those tiny cassette players, coz you can hum into them, so you have a record of every tune, lyric, whatever.
2041.9	BTW Its my B/Day!!	BEEZER::FLOWERS	I have a burning ambition...	`Tue Apr 09 1991 03:11`	14
	I think maybe my last reply was not what you asked (although it might help). A little thing I use (beware! everybody probably does this) So you have strung some chords together and you have some verses and you are stuck with what to play for the chorus or the bridge. Work out what key you are playing in and for the bridge/chorus start fiddling around with chords in the relative major/minor it might give you a few ideas.....and it will fit. (Mostly) Or take the whole riff up a tone and see how that goes. J
2041.10	what about lyrics-music relationships	XOANAN::HEISER	my son is student of the month	`Tue Apr 09 1991 14:04`	12
	Re: -1 Happy Birthday! That's more in line with what I was wondering as far as the music goes. I've been experimenting with this and I'm getting more confident in it. How about for writing? Do you just use what sounds okay? Or do you apply, for example, beats per measure to each sentence? Does beats per measure dictate if you should rhyme every other line or every third line? Mike
2041.11		WHELIN::OMALLEY	Homey Cheese Whiz Kid	`Tue Apr 09 1991 16:03`	3
	Step #1: Have something to say. Surpising how many people omit this step...
2041.12		PIPPER::KELLYJ	Tone droid	`Tue Apr 09 1991 16:25`	12
	Actually, having something to say is the hard part. I feel like the lyrics I write are incredibly trite and stupid sounding. The only time the lyrics sound better occurs when I write a song completely and quickly. When I have to struggle of the lyrics, they wind up sounding too forced. Any other noters with hints for writing witty, cool, insightful, catchy lyrics ;^) ? Regards, Johnny Jupiter
2041.13	Hahaha!	GOES11::G_HOUSE	Stereotype, monotype, blood type...	`Tue Apr 09 1991 16:30`	8
	Just make 'em as cryptic as possible and even if they don't mean squat to you someone will read something into them and think you're profound... ;^) Greg (who's written a lot of really cryptic poetry in his time, but not a lot of songs)
2041.14	No?	WHELIN::OMALLEY	Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball	`Tue Apr 09 1991 16:47`	1
	re: .13 Sounds like Yes.