Conference napalm::guitar

     Sounds to me like an outrageous idea......but I wonder
    if any of the "kittyhawk_amp_conference will even see
    it!!!!! I've been thinking of something along those 
    lines for a while....especially after hearing R.Coccoli's
    fine recordings of "FEAR" and "MY SECRET LIFE"!!!!!!!!!!
    I have no doubt in my mind ; he is MR.MIDI-or possibly
    the SIMON BAR SINISTER of electronic guitar!!VERY VERY
    IMPRESSIVE AND ORIGINAL STUFF!!!! I'm not sure if I'd be 
    able to contribute due to the fact I don't really have access 
    to recording gear.....but we'll take that as it comes.
    
    
    
    PSYCHED FOR REAL MUSIC;
    BILL(When someone offers you a kitty;JUST SAY NO!)
    

    
    
    	Sounds like a grewat idea to me too, now that dbii's got an 8
    track!! <grin>.
    
    
    Steve

    I suggested this very same thing when I was back East.  I remember some
    of you guys were interested in it also.
    
    Mike

    
    Would contributions to the tape have to be originals, or could we add
    covers, too.  Could we use songs from our bands, or is it only guitar+tape
    recorder?
    
    Kevin
    

    
    The COMMUSIC Tapes have no restrictions on originals vs. covers and
    individual vs. band stuff.  In fact all of the above have been
    submitted over the years (currently they are preparing to release Commusic
    VII).  The recording quality has varied from straight to a stereo
    cassette to full blown 8-track studio productions. 
    
    It would seem that a similar format would work well here.  BTW, the
    Commusic tapes are not necessarily all MIDI keyboard blowouts, a number
    of the submissions have been guitar based.  I just submitted a piece
    for CM VII that is all acoustic guitar. 
    
    One noter volunteers to compile the tape.  Noters submit tapes (usually
    cassettes, though some compilers of CM have been able to take various
    open reel and hi-fi VCR formats) and the compiler prepares a master
    tape.  The real hassle is making the copies once the master has been
    completed, as anyone who has had to make lots of copies has found out. 
    To date, the noters have resisted going to a tape duplicator to have a
    short run made.  Total distribution of any one tape is going to be well
    under 50 pieces. 
    
    Submissions are usually first come, first serve, until 90 minutes of
    stuff has been submitted.  Commusic has an informal 10-12 minute limit
    on submissions.
    
    BTW, COMMUSIC is a good file to visit for tips on home recording and MIDI
    stuff if you're looking for info.  Hit KP7 to add it to your notebook.
    
    								Brian
    
    

    Great idea Greg ! (GAwd he's smart for a cone head isn't he ?)
    
    I know RnR (Me, Bulldawg, and Hunter) would be interested in putting
    a couple-three originals on it !
    
    Time to break out the 4 track !
    
    jc

    I could help with the duplication too.  I can support cassette and VHS
    Hi-Fi.  I also own and/or have access to:  Nakamichi cassette deck,
    Sony hi-speed dual deck, and 16 channel mixer.
    
    Mike

    I can help dub the stuff too... I've got a JVC high speed audio
    and a stereo VCR patched into the stereo

    
    
    
    	So, ummmm.... my $19 panasonic and drum machine won't cut it???

    
    That sounds like a great idea!!!  Brians comments from commusic
    make sense too.  I know that I've seen some GREAT playing at the
    many SeasonJams and parties.  And from all the different tastes
    and styles out here in Guitarnotes, I'm sure it would be one
    interesting tape!!  
    
    My only suggestion would be to go with a "more the merrier"
    strategy and limit by time.  90 minute tape / 5 minutes = 18
    different guitarists...
    
    Tom
    

    Ok, from the responses here and the ones I've received in Mail, I'm
    convinced that there is enough interest here to make it worthwhile to
    give this project a go.
    
    I'll volunteer to compile the master tape and make some of the copies
    and will probably solicit assistance on the copies from those of you
    that have volunteered to help with this.
    
    You can submit your enties on either cassette or hifi VHS.  The
    cassette decks will accept either Dolby B or C.  I'll try to keep the
    quality as high as possible and the noise levels to minimum, but I'm
    not going to go totally overboard in that dept.  Personally I feel that
    the effort that seems to go into the COMMUSIC compliations has become
    rather anal retentive with regard to recording quality (no offense
    intended to anyone involved).  I have reasonable, but not top of the
    line, equipment which is well maintained to do the compilations and
    copies with.  I have no intention of upgrading my equipment simply to
    support this particular project.  
    
    If you're desperate to send me a 4-track cassette tape instead of a
    stereo cassette, I can use it, but be aware that my 4-track is among
    the lowest quality available (and does not have a compatible noise
    reduction system) so I won't be responsible for any added noise.  While
    I'll try and accomodate your wishes as much as possible in this
    scenerio, the bottom line is that I'm going to have mix it to *my* 
    tastes where the instructions lack and this may differ from yours.  So
    doing your own mixdown is recommended (unless you trust me more then
    I'd expect you to).
     
    I am not terribly concerned with the content or the recording quality
    of the submissions.  Naturally I advise you to use the best means of
    recording you have available to you and send me a first generation tape
    if possible, but all submissions will be accepted and I'll do my best
    with them.  
    
    I'm also not concerned about whether you want to submit original songs
    or covers, solo or band material, it's up to you.  The intent here is
    to get some music that you're proud of distributed to other people that
    want to hear it, so whatever you want people to hear from you is what
    you want to submit.
    
    Send you submissions to:
    
    Greg House
    P.O. Box 5995
    Woodland Park, Co  80866-5995
    
    If you want your submission tape back, please include a self-addressed
    package and postage.  If I don't hear anything from you, I'll keep your
    tape.  When you send your submission, please let me know via VMSmail at
    CSC32::G_HOUSE and include any release/performance notes which you'd
    like included.  On the COMMUSIC tapes, these typically include the name
    of the song(s), who performed on them, and equipment used when they
    were recorded.
    
    Please be courteous to the other people that want to get their music on
    the tape too and don't submit half hour long compostions or a whole
    demo worth of material.  I think that 1-2 songs lasting about 5-10
    minutes at most would seem appropriate.
    
    When I've received enough material to fill a tape then I'll begin with
    the compliation and distribution.  Watch for announcements in this
    note.
    
    I'm personally very excited about this and am looking forward to
    getting some interesting material out!  So get the tapes rolling and 
    GO FOR IT!
    
    Greg
         

    
    Hi Greg,
    
    Just wondering if it's possible to use Interoffice mail instead?
    No problem using US Mail tho, just wondering...
    
    Tom

    Tom,
    
    Since this is not work related, I'd prefer to keep it out of
    interoffice mail if possible.  Seems to me the expense of US mail is
    minimal to keep us all out of trouble.
    
    Greg

    
    
    RE .1  Truly Bill, you make me blush.
    
       But actually, as you know, I am the Midimaster....
    
       Hey Guys...Please.. Let's limit the tape to ORIGINALS ONLY.
    
       Covers are so boring.
                                            
    
    
    RC
    

    
    
    re. -1   
    
    I would much rather that we NOT limit the tape to originals only! 
    
    Kevin
    
    

	Creative adaptation of other people's music is an art in itself.

	Like Hendrix covering Dylan....

	Charlie B

    
    
     Pardonez Moi!.  I concede. *^}
    
       I too can appreciate cover music. I just prefer listening to original
     music and felt a majority of others may have felt the same way. 
      
       I, for one, will be submitting (2) four minute originals including
       the forementioned "Secret Life", which incorporates the dreaded
       Popeil "Flange-o-matic" effect device.
      
       Cranked out on a humble 4 track this weekend....     
    
    
    						Rich
    
    
                                            
                                                         
        

       >the forementioned "Secret Life", which incorporates the dreaded
       >Popeil "Flange-o-matic" effect device.

    Izzat included with the Pocket Fisherman?

    Yeah, I think a mix of cover/originals is fine and dandy.  Personally,
    I'll submit (if Scary doesn't mind) some original stuff from 2EZ
    (a band Jerry and I had going ...But is gone now :( ), and maybe an 
    original from RnR.
    jc

      Sounds good GH- I don't think the members of my band would mind
    my submitting something. Is there a proposed deadline? If it's real
    close maybe I'll go for vol #2.
      						BOOM 

    
    Is there some dead line for this? I would like to paticipate, but
    I will not be able until March. Is that going to be to late?
    
    Miguel...
    

    I'm not setting an explicit deadline because I don't want to put out a
    tape with just a couple of songs and a lot of dead space on it.  When I
    recieve enough material for a whole tape, I'll put it together.  
    
    I don't know how long it'll take, but I'd say probably a couple of
    months or so.  Take your time and send me your submissions when you get
    them ready.  If it doesn't make in on volume 1, then we'll start a
    volume 2.
    
    I'll keep you all informed of how much material I recieve so you'll
    know how much space is left on the tape.
    
    Greg

    
    Gimmie some time to do some decent recording and I'll send you 
    a couple tracks from my band here in the UK.
    
    Cheers,
    -tony 

    
    
      So.. ANYone getting it together yet?.
    
      You don't really want me to send in Another submission under
     an assumed name, do you?.    
    
      I think you could spare yourself the traumatic, mind-numbing
    experience of listening to Wally and the Weasel's latest spewing,
                    " Gotta Gerbil In My Pocket"
                 
                So lay off the groupies and the granola
                       and get them reels spinning.
                                                       
    			
    RC
    
    

    Well spoken, Rich!
    
    Ok people, I have two submissions in my grubby little paws (and no, I'm
    not part of "Wally and the Weasels"...).  Thanks Rich and Steve.   
    
    This is definately good stuff, I'm hyped about the overall tape!  Keep
    those tapes and records coming!
    
    Greg

    I'll probably be sending in two tunes:
    

    To give you all a status, so far I've received only two usable
    submissions.  One other is being rerecorded.  I've heard from at least
    three others that expressed interest, but haven't seen any tapes...
    
    Greg

    so what:)

    
    Two usable submissions?  How many unusable ones ?  8^)  8^)  8^)
    
    Gonna be a short tape  8^)  8^)  8^)
    
    

    I haven't seen your's either, Brian.   8^)

    
    My mixing board died  8;(
    
    Besides mine's sure to be unusable  8^)  8^)
    
    
    						Brian

    
    
    	Mixing board???

      
       Enuf of this idle banter.*^}
    
        I can't believe that with all the talent(ahem), not to mention
    HOT AIR in this conference, that G_house has recieved only **2**
    usable submissions so far.
        If you guys took ONE TENTH the energy you spend on babbling
    about your equipment and used it putting songs on tape, we would
    have Guitarnotes VII out by now.
    
                    *^}  <----obligatory smilie             
       Rich
                          
    

    
    RE;-1
    
    Maybe everyone's waiting for a big shot producer to knock on their 
    doors? 8)  Well, news for all you guys, Greg is really Ted Templemen
    in a disguise!!!  I heard that he's looking for the next Van Halen!!!
    8) 8) 8) 8)
    
    By the way, Greg, are you going to put together an entry yourself?
    I'd be more than happy to back you up!!!!!!!!!!!!!  If you wouldn't 
    mind working with a rank amateur(s), of course...
    
    Humbly yours
    J.

    
    Re: .33
    
    Well, I resuscitated my board last night with $1.32 worth of precision
    electronic components so now I can remix a couple of ancient tapes
    which wil be good for a few snorts....sounds like there's no rush,
    though  8^)  8^)
    
    						Brian

    Yo Greg - if you've still got a 2EZ tape, you can use "Raise The
    Stakes" from it for my entry.  I *may* be able to give you another
    live cut from my present band soon.
    
    
    				Scary

    
    
      I knew you guys could come up with something.
    
    You just needed someone to yell at you.(discipline,eh?)
    
      Now rush off to yer local P.O. and get em in the mail.
    
    
    RC
    

    re: J.                                              
    
    Let's do it...if you got the ideas, I got the equipment!
    
    re: Jerry
    
    I think I recorded Oprah over that tape...     ;^)
    
    re: Brian
    
    Now, that's the spirit!
    
    re: Rich
    
    "Discipline"?  You're showing that King Crimson fixation again.  8^)
    
    Greg (who never claimed to be a good player himself or have good ideas, but
          might have thought he knew a little about the equipment...)

Yo...
.
RnR is in need of a demo tape... We've been thinking about going
to a outside studio (as opposed to the basement) to do soem 4 or 8 
track stuff...

What is the going rate (I know they must vary) for 4, 8 and 16 track
studios ?  Do the hourly fees include an engineer/producer type ?
Does it include the final mix ?

We were thinking two originals and two covers would be a good demo,
but we don't wanna spend all outdoors to do it...

Suggestions ??

jc

    The way studios work around here, at least for responses to what I
    need , is there is an hourly rate that includes an engineer.
    Producers are totally seperate, $$$, and often have thier own engineers
    and/or studio preferences.
     The rate around here runs 20-75/an hour, depending on the place.
    More expensive places I find at least look worth it, it's a total
    bummer to try and dsave a few bucks and end up sounding not much better
    than the cellar, but you gotta find a place that's right for yourself.
     Tape is a big expense, DAT tape for Digital stereo runs like 20$,
    but for analog multitrack it's 50-150, depending on how many tracks you
    want. Mixdown time is the same as the hourly rate.
    
    I've been to cheep studios before and was most unhappy, felt like
    a sing-along-booth. Next time I'll pay the bucks for to have 
    the right mikes for the jobs and a mixing board made for pro-use.
    
    You should really call studios and nose around. 
    I dude I know put a demo of 2 songs together for 2K$, he made some
    money.  A bad demo can sink you into the land of never-forgotton bad.
    
    

    BTW for 24 track. 125$ tape the playing time runs 15 minutes.
    If you're never wanting to remix, you could use the tape once,
    after the mix. 

    
    For a first demo, 8 tracks is plenty to start with, 16 fun if you have
    $$.
    
    Get the studio to give you a cassette with examples of projects they've
    done which are the *same style* of music as what you do.  That'll tell
    you if they can deliver the sound you want.  
    
    Remember the time you pay for includes you setting up, the *engineer*
    setting up, you sitting around shooting the breeze, using the john,
    etc.  Figure about 12 hours for two tunes, doing all the tracks,
    overdubs, mixing, etc.  if you want a real good job.  Split the
    sessions up: backing tracks one night, then the overdubs, then the
    vocals, then the mixdown.  The less time you spend, the funkier it'll
    sound.  An extra couple of hours may make all the difference in how
    good the tape sounds.
    
    							Brian

    Fortunately, I'm in charge of the studio in our church.  I'm just
    trying to get some more players involved, and have them show up on he
    right nights.
    
    Mike

    RE. .39
       
      It's not a King Crimson influence. It's a sexual preference.
                                                               
      
                                                                
                                                           
                                                                
    
    RC

    If anyone needs to contact me regarding the tape, I've changed nodes.
    
    Greg (Now COOKIE::G_HOUSE)

    
    Tell you what, guys.  Save some of the energy wasted in the
    EVH/Clapton/Harley note and send in a tape.  
    
    We're doing plenty of talking and not enough playing!  This should be
    one of the most active notes in here, but nooooo, we'd rather get into
    a pi**ing contest (again) about Clapton and EVH.
    
       
    My tape's in.  How's about yours?
    
    Kevin

Greg has my submission.  

Old, but me...   ;)

jc

    
    Just out of curiosity, how many submissions do you have, Greg?  
    
    Kevin
    

    
    I sent one in. 2 classical guitar pieces.
    
    Bob

    
    
       I sent mine in. Three originals. All synth/midiguitar.   Rich

If I remember correctly, I have 7 or 8 so far, and I've heard from at least 
3 more that promised tapes soon.  I'm still getting them pretty regularly so
I know there's still interest.

Greg

    
    
       Well now. If my aging grey matter custard serves me correctly,
    If you got 7 or 8 ten minute contributions, we must be edging towards
    the good ole finish line, eh Greg?. 
       
    
    Rich
    

    
    
    	I'll send in some stuff gladly.  What are the rules if any.  I did
    sessions for some local bands some time ago which are old but I think
    my work is OK.  I could record some classical stuff no probs.
    
    Cheers
    		Pete.

re: Pete

No heavy rules.  Try to be considerate to other people that would like to get 
some space on the tape and keep it to around 10 minutes or less.  Send the best
quality recordings you can since they'll end up getting copied at least twice
and will lose a little each time.

re: Rich

Yours is the only one even close to 10 minutes.  8^)  

Seriously, my next project is to go back and listen to them all again and time
them so I know exactly how much material we have.  I'll post that here when 
I've had time to do it.

To all that have sent or are sending submissions; Thank you very much.

Greg

>Seriously, my next project is to go back and listen to them all again and time
>them so I know exactly how much material we have.  I'll post that here when 
>I've had time to do it.
    
    I wish the manufacturers would put real time counters on tape decks for
    these types of projects.  My VCR has one and it is a lot more useful
    than the regular counters.
    
    Mike

    
    Mine's in the mail.  I was wondering what kind of music/styles have
    been submitted.  I've heard Kevin McDonough and Bob Conroy, both really
    good players, but I'll bet their choices were quite different.  I'm
    betting we'll get everything from classical, blues, rock and roll,
    jazz, fusion, thru metal.  
    
    If the various DecJams are any indication, this tape should be very
    interesting!!!
    
    Guess we shouldn't spoil the surprise by telling what we've submitted.
    
    Should we?
    
    Tom
    
    

Oh I dunno.  

I submitted a bunch of Clapton covers ...

;)

    Who ?
    
    8^)

Sheeesh, try to be funny and ONE GUY picks up on it !

;)

jc (Who submitted two originals)

    
    
    
    	Hey, Coop, I knew you didn't submit Clapton covers, I knew you were
    kidding....
    
    	My submissions were along the lines of shaky, 12 bar rhythm tapes
    recorded on my kids Mickey Mouse tape player..... Really cooool stuff..
    
    
    Steve
    
    I wish I could play like Clapton :(

Ok, here's a progress report on the compilation.  I currently have submissions
from the following people:

Rich Coccoli
Steve Greve
Bob Conroy
Jerry White & Jeff Cooper
Kevin McDonough
Brian Rost

I've also been promised entries by Bill Buckley and Tom DesRochers, which 
I understand are currently in transit.

I hope I didn't miss any, I think these are all the tapes I have.  If you
sent me something and you're not on the list, please contact me offline.

I haven't timed them yet, so I don't know the exact duration, but my "seat
of the pants" feel is that there is about 35-40 minutes of material on the
ones I have (don't know about the ones in transit yet).

Thank you to all those participating!

Greg

I can't *WAIT* to hear this !!!

Come on gang, getcher stuff in !

jc

    Well if Greve submitted then I guess i should dig out something and do
    the same...
    
    Yo Steve, good goin'!
    
    dbii

    Hey Rj, reply .11 in this note has all the info you need to include
    some of your work on this compliation tape (nudge nudge wink wink
    say-no-more).  ;^)
    
    Bb

    
    	Well, since it's been virtually 3 months since this note was
    	started by Greg, how about putting in a deadline for entries?
    	If it's not a complete 90 minutes or it's a 60 minute cassette,
    	so what?  Otherwise, it may be summer before this is out.
    
    	Now, I admit that mine is just in so I'm late too.  But, other
    	than mine and Bucks and the last reply by dbII, the submittals
    	seem to be close to the end.
    
    	So how about a deadline?  The end of next week??
    
    	Tom
    

    -2  Getting itchy Tom?
    
    I think the end of next week is a tad to early for some people to try
    and get it together.  Whadaya have to say Housemeister?

    
    Hey Bill,
    
    Sure I'm getting itchy - this may be the best thing to come out of
    this conference, ya know?  I guess I've assumed that the past 3 months
    have been when people have gotten it together.  I've kept in touch with
    Greg via mail to make sure there was still room because I had plans to
    record mine.  I had a "back-up" to submit if the tape was filling up.
    
    Several notes back, someone posted something about all the talk and no
    action in here.  I'd say we all have something on tape - send it in!!
    
    Maybe the end of next week is too early, but I sure hope the deadline
    isn't far out.  Plus, a deadline will get some butts in gear, right?
    
    Tom
    

    -1
    
    Yeah, maybe you're right (about the deadline)...
    
    B.

Yeah, and while your at it, send some snap shots and stuff like that to 
me for the First Annual Guitar Noters Photo Album.

I've been thinking about Toms idea of a deadline.  My original intention was to
just wait until there was enough material to fill a tape (of some indetermined
length), then "publish" that one and start collecting entries for a second one.

I kind of didn't like the idea of a deadline because then you have blank space
on the tape that someone could have used, but I can see your point about 
motivation.

I'm open to ideas.  I still need to time the current submissions, but with the 
ones from Tom, Buck, and Larry we'll probably be close to 60 minutes.  

Do you want to to put out a 60 minute tape, or wait another month or so and 
try for a 90?  I'm open to ideas, but I will say that I'm still receiving 
peoples tapes on a fairly regular basis.  There seemed like a big time lag 
from the first couple I got (from Rich and Steve, thanks guys) and the next 
batch, but there seems to be a lot coming in right now.

Greg

    Greg,
    
    	Go for 60 minutes, call it volume 1. As more material comes in,
    work on assembling volume 2, repeating ad infinitum. Try to get the
    broadest mix of players for volume 1; from any tape with more than one
    tune, pick one for volume 1, save the rest for subsequent volumes.
    JMHO.
    
    	Yo, Greve! Good show, dude. Looking forward to hearing your
    contribution to this recording. Maybe you can embarass me into getting
    off my butt and getting *serious* about my axe. (Didn't we already have
    a discussion of 'serious' in here, somewhere? 8^> )
    
    --Chuck

    >broadest mix of players for volume 1; 
    
    I submited a Rhamba and a metal tune, howz that for broad?
    ;^)
    

    
    Greg,
    
    First off, it's your baby so you should do what you think is right.
    If it were me, I'd ask if there are any entries that are on the
    verge of being submitted.  If so, wait for 'em.  But it doesn't 
    seem to make sense to wait just in case something might come in.
    The Volume 1 and 2 idea sounds good to me.
    
    Tom (just 1 tune)
    

    >I've been thinking about Toms idea of a deadline.  My original
    >intention was to just wait until there was enough material to fill a
    >tape (of some indetermined length), then "publish" that one and start
    >collecting entries for a second one.
    
    That's what I did with the COMMUSIC tapes (similar idea to this,
    only for COMMUSIC conference), and that would be my strong
    recommendation.
    
    	db
     

    
    
    
    	Yo Ramsey... believe me dude you CAN wait to hear my submission..
    <grin>... I did it with a couple of tape decks and echoed them back and
    forth...   But it does help me get past some of the fear, of letting
    others hear my playing...
    
    
    Regards,
    Steve

Steve,
 in the future if you've got some inspiration let's do it on my 8 track

dbii

    
    
    
    	Yeah, I guess I'm going to start looking around for a 4 track cheap
    and learn how to use one.. this dueling tapedecks stuff is for the
    birds!!!

Ok guys and gals, here's the current status:

Looks like I underestimated the amount of material I'd received a little.
I currently have 7 submissions totalling 56:56 minutes (wierd, huh?).  With 
the two from Larry and Buck that are still "in transit" this will put us well over 
the 60 minute time.  

Just guessing at the time of these two, I think that will leave room for 
either one or two more and we'll have a nice 90 minute tape.  Anyone have
anything they want to get on there?

Greg

    I gonna *try* and get a couple live cuts this weekend at the gig and
    send them out.  This tape is gonna be great !  I hope you guys aren't
    spending *to* much time making these, 'cuz I know my submissions aren't
    studio quality by a long shot ... but of ya are, it's still going to be
    great listening !  Kepp 'em coming.
    
    Scary (who'd love to see a full 90 minute tape !)

Perhaps we can get some live stuff from StudioB this weekend, so the Bulldawg
can get some work on this tape too.  My submission is like three years old.
I hope I've gotten better since.

jc

    -1
    
    I was wonderin/hopin to hear a Bulldawg thing on this tape!  I'd really
    like to hear where he's coming from musically.
    
    B.

    -1
    
    I'll be there, Buck!  Who's gonna tape us Coop?
    
    Steve D.

RE: Bullpup

My stereos tape deck, two SM58's and Bob the soundman.  :)
High Quality...At least better than a boom box.

:)

RE: Buck

I know two outstanding guitarists in Greenville.  One guy, Albert Thompson,
does Hendrix better than Hendrix does... The other, Bulldawg, Does Clapton
better than Clapton (This in my humble opinion of course).  
No flames please.  I don't care for Clapton, but can appreciate what he
does.  Steve's cool.  ;)

jc

    Thanks Jeff, but NOBODY plays Clapton better than Clapton, and nobody
    does Bulldawg's lix as well as the Bulldawg hisself!  To each his
    own...
    
    Stevo
    
    Let's make a great tape!!

    -1
    
    Do you guys play Crossroads?  How bout Livin After Midnight?
    ;^)

    I just thought...
    
    BoOm (Mr. Kitty Hawk USA himself) will probably miss out on GUITAR
    V1.0!
    
    I wanna hear this dude!!

Best to not wait for me...

dbii

    -1
    
    You don't have ANY LA East stuff?  Bah!

well...yeah I coudl cull out something but I had in mind my first home produced
8 track recording...which unfortunatley isn't done and needs several more
days of work...just to get that slide lead "just so"

set mode/Lowell George

I'll work on it...

dbii

    The only stuff I could submit is already available on the Commusic
    tapes (III and VII).
    
    If you need material for this tape, it would be nothing for me to
    dub a copy and send it in.  But I'm not sure of the "coolness" of
    sending in stuff that's already available elsewhere.
    
    	db

    Yo, db!
    
    I don't think *too* many noters in this conf are dups from the COMMUSIC
    conf.  I know *I've* never heard ANY of the COMMUSIC tapes myself. 
    Maybe the idea of re-submitting stuff that's on CM III or IV might not
    be such a bad idea after all.
    
    Just fud 4 thought
    B.

I agree DB.  Submit the stuff dude.

;)

This morning I mailed a tape to Greg, it contains two previously UNRELEASED
LA East studio takes...

Those who made it to the two season_jams might remember the tunes though

dbii

    -1
    
    Cool!
    
    I exect it has all that classic dbii slide work from hell on it?

    I am sending in 2 originals. They total about 7:00 min. They'll be
    on their way lunchtime.
    
    							John.

    still haven't got around to re-recording the Chaconne yet, silly me

No slide work from hell on this tape...

Next time I'll have a slider...

dbii

    OK, I'll send my stuff in tonite

    *sniff* *sniff* .....
    
    
    
    Somethin' smells mighty good in the kitchen guys !  This is gonna be
    great !!!
    
    Scary (who's gonna send in a couple `live' entries tomorrow)

    Ok Buck, talked me into it.
    
    Greg,
    
    I checked with the other band and got an ok to send in a couple of cover
    tunes. Tape should be in the mail tuesday/wednesday...
    
    
    	Rj

    whoops that last one was supposed to say "band members"...Fingers get
    dyslexic this time of night...
    
    
    Rj Who_hopes_his_guitar_playing_is_better_than_his_typing

    Alright Rj!!
    
    Lookin forward to it dude!
    Buck

Ok, here's the scoop...

I have a 90 minute tape way overbooked with the entries I've received 
so far and the ones in the mail right now, so here's what I'm goin' to do:

As I said before, it's first come first serve so the first 90 minutes 
worth of material will go on the first tape and I'll start now collecting
material for the second tape.

Thank you all for your participation.  I think you'll all be pleased with
the tape we have some outstanding talant here and you all deserve a big
round of applause.

Would those that volunteered (or would like to) to help with making copies
and distribution please contact me via Mail to coordinate this?  I should 
have a master tape built in about a week or so.

Thanks,
Greg

    
    Terrific, Greg!!!  Can't wait to hear it!!  Ok, here comes another
    IMHO...
    
    Unless it's impractical, maybe have those who submitted 2 or more
    songs cut their entry to one so we each have a song on the tape?
    First come first serve is great and they actually deserve to be
    on it first.  But it would be nice if they picked their favorite
    tune and bumped the extras to Volume 2.
    
    Hopefully we'll get a Volume 2 but it would be great for everyone
    to have the opportunity to be on Volume 1.  Any gracious guitarists
    out there?
    
    Looking forward to hearing all you noters.  I've already heard a few
    of you - if that's any indication... OUCH!!!
    
    

If it's ok with everyone, I'd like to keep the tapes intact rather then
splitting the ones with multiple songs for Volume 2.  If for no other 
reason, it's a lot easier on me [8^)].  

I know what you're trying to do, get as many different people on there as
possible, but my thinking was that some of the ones with multiple songs 
had them to specifically show different aspects of their playing and 
songwriting and they were intentionally juxtiposed.  I'd hate to change
that.  Also, if we split them up, then we'll just put out a bunch of tapes
with different songs by the same people on them.  I think it might be 
better to have different tapes that have funtimentally different people
on them.

But this is JMO, so if you guys want to do something different, that's ok 
with me.  I don't have a submission on this one (maybe for Volume 2) so 
this is your tape and I'll respect whatever you wish for it.

Greg

    
    Hi Greg,
    
    I didn't realize you already had them together.  In that case, most
    definitely do it your way.  No problem at all with a few selections
    from people.  Hey, at least my "deadline" suggestion went over ;^)
    
    Tom
    

Yeah, nobody had more then three songs anyway.  I didn't consider that 
excessive, so I figured it was no big deal.

Greg

    Yeah, keep 'em together !  BTW, when ya get it done, send me a copy and
    I'll dub a copy for the GSO axe-meisters.
    
    Scary

    Well, Greg, in light of your 'juxtaposition' argument, I withdraw my
    earlier suggestion to get more players, fewer songs per player on
    volume one. Sounds like a plan, dood! I, for one, am anxious to hear
    what our 'local' talent can do.
    
    --Chuck

    I'll dup for the ASO players...
    
    dbii

re: dbII

Steve G. already volunteered to do some...maybe you guys should get together 
on it or something.

    
    
    
    	Yeah, dbii, I'm doin' em' on my 39.95 yorx home studio.. love that
    distorted sound, huh dude..

    
    
      I hereby volunteer to dupe copies for anyone in N.Y.C. Here that,
    Wonder-Mutant?.
      Hey Greg...need anymore pro-animal-cruelty songs for volume II?.
    
    
    
    RC
    

How many you got?  8^)

The animal rights people gonna be allllllll over your stuff!

Greg

    
    
      How many?. An entire album of mammal abuse. The next will be titled
    "Nasty Things To Do With Crustaceans".
                
      I think now we are approaching the appropriate time for someone to
     create both Album Liner and  Guitarnotes I Review Topics ala Commusic. 
    
    
RC
    
    
    
    
    
        

    I also have a cassette label maker doctype for VAX Document.  Turns out
    pretty good results.
    
    Mike

re: Mike

That seems to be getting pretty wide distribution, I have one too.  I'll set 
up a file and distribute to the those making the copies.

re: Rich

I'll set up those topics pretty soon.  Figured we didn't need a "reviews"
topic until someone actually got a copy of the thing and I don't have the
"liner notes" all ready yet.  8^)

Crustrations!  I love it...

Greg (who used to abuse sea snails at night on the beach in Mexico, you know
      take them, hurl them in the air, wait for them to come crashing down...
      "Turn off the light, I can't hear them hit")

That seems to be getting pretty wide distribution, I have one too.  I'll set 
up a file and distribute to the those making the copies.


>Crustrations!  I love it...

    Oooh!  I didn't know liked crabs!  ;^>
    
>Greg (who used to abuse sea snails at night on the beach in Mexico, you know
    >  take them, hurl them in the air, wait for them to come crashing down...
    >  "Turn off the light, I can't hear them hit")
    
    You are one sick puppy!  Is that why we get along so well? ;^>
    
    J-Dot who_likes_pouring_salt_on_earth_worms.  heh, heh, heh!  ;^>
    

    Greg, My tape with the two cover tunes is going in the mail today. 
          even if I don't make it onto the first tape I'd like a copy.
    
    Gotta hear ya'll
    
    rj 

    
    	Like -1 I have yet to put stuff down (I'm Killed for choice I have
    hours of studio masters to audit).  I'd like a copy all the same & I'll
    offer to duplicate for all UK noters (but TTT ain't getin one :-)).
    
    Cheers
    		Pete Evans
    				loc.   RDL 3/B
    					Reading UK.
    

    yepper mr midi-masser sir!!!! I'll get you a blank tape.....

    re: .117 Yo Steve maybe you'll let me borrow the original for a evening
    so I can make a more audiophile copy?
    
    dbii

    
    
    RE: .127
    
    	Yep...

    Re: J. and Greg
    
    Did you know bullfrogs love cherry bombs? ;-)

    
    
      Re: Liner Note Topic:
    
      I thought it might be easier on Greg, and more fun for the rest
    of us contributors to enter our own liner notes. Perhaps we should
    have put it to a vote. It also might be a good idea to write lock it
    once it's complete. Some people have a habit of filling up topics
    with useless (imho) notes, eh?. =8^]
      I got rid of the Review + Survey topics. You are right, it's too
    early. I'm just eager, I guess.
    
    
    
    RC
                                                               

    
    ... knock, knock!!  
    
    Is anyone home??
    
    Is there a new guitartape conference or something??
    
    

    Yeah, this note died off a tad.
    
    ???

    Re: .131, .132
    
    They all heard Kitty Hawk had some preamps left and went back to the KH
    meganote.....8^)  8^)  8^)
    
    							Brian

I think everyone's waiting on me...

Basically the status is about the same as the last time I put a note in here.  
I've started putting together the compilation but have not finished it yet.

I've received a couple more entries (Thanks DBII & RJ) which will almost 
certainly have to go on Volume two, so we're getting started there.  If 
anyone has submissions for Volume two, go ahead and send them.

Things have been unexpectedly busy lately, sorry.

Greg

    I was talking with Ralph Crowley (formerly IAMOK::CROWLEY) yesterday.
    I turned him onto the fact that this tape was in full swing of being
    "put together" (Ralph is no longer with mother Digital!!).  He just
    finished 2 or 3 songs (I forget) in the studio and I gave him your
    address Greg, so you may be seeing yet another entry for Vol_II!!
    
    B.

I think RnR may have a submission for volume two.  We made a tape of 
our last performance at Shooters, and I heard some of the Blues
jammin' on it that really shows off Bulldawgs style, like on Stormy
Monday Blues (love that tune), and BB Kings "The Thrill Is Gone"
which shows that metal heads can play blues too, I think ;)

When I get copies of the tapes I'll see what I can come up with.
Recording quality is a little sketchy, because we used a ghetto
blaster arrangement.  ;)

jc

re: Buck

I wondered why I hadn't seen any notes from Ralph in awhile...

I hope things are going well for him and look forward to getting his tape.

re: Coop

Good deal, send it on out.

Greg

    Yea like how do I get a copy and can when can I submit my Fugue for
    next time?

I have to apologize.  I've not had/taken time to work on it much lately and 
it's still not done.  I'm going on vacation in a week and have a lot of work
to do to prepare for that so I seriously doubt it'll be ready before I get 
back in a couple of weeks.

Please forgive me for taking so long with it.  It would normally not be so
far behind.

re: Andy

I'm accepting tapes for Volume II any time.  I have a couple already.

Greg

    Andy?

Aren't you "Andy"?  (If not, I find myself pretty embarrassed, since I've been
calling you that for some time now).

    well it seemed i was beginning to think, no actually delude
    my name was toenail. or toe, or woody. I'm sorry, i've been to the
    doctor since ..
    it'll be a great vacation ! 
    
    andy 

Hi everyone.  

I made some time this weekend and finished dubbing the submissions to the 
master for GUITARnotes Volume I.  It ended up fitting rather well, with less 
then 1 minute of dead space at the end of side 1 and about 2.25 minutes of
dead space at the end of side 2.  Given that this is a 90 minute tape and I 
didn't make any effort to order the submissions so that they would fit most
optimally, I thought this worked out pretty well.

Now I just have to make two additional copies of the master to send to Mike
Heiser and Steve Greve who will be assisting in the duplication efforts.  I
will hopefully be able to do that this week, however I'm out of town next week 
and have a LOT of work and things at home to do to prepare for that.  I'll keep 
you posted.

I'll post the sequence of the songs in the "release notes" sometime soon.  

I put the submissions on the tape in the sequence that I received them, except
for Tom DesRochers' which I dubbed first (a few weeks back) because he needed
his tape back quickly.

There are two submissions that there was not enough room for on Volume I, so
these will be the start for Volume II, those from Dave Bottom and RJ Pelletier
(sorry if that spelling's wrong RJ).  Please go ahead and start sending your
submissions for Volume II and I'll put it together as soon as there is enough
material.

Greg

    For my next attempt,
    I'll be sending in 2 tunes.      
    
    Etude by Sor in C Major.	edit: Segovia
    	Pro recording by Sound Thinking Associates in Worcester  in 1977, when I
    was 21. I Used a 74 Ramirez Augustine Blues, it's the best tune of the
    session, has the least mistakes. The others have mistakes, they're
    dogs, but this seems OK. 
    
    
    
    Bad Dog (Intro) ( origonal music )
    
    Prelude #1 from well -tempered cavier.
     Drums by /prc ,  no flames please.
    
    From the tape Cooked Toenails, recorded in 1990 May by some kid with a
    four-track. 
    
    just to warn you

    
    
    
      Greg....How's it coming?. The tape that is.8^]
    
    
    
    
    RichC
    
    
    
    
    

    The tape is done, but I've been on vacation and haven't had a chance to
    do copies of the master for the other people helping out with the
    duplication efforts (Mike H. and Steve G.).  I've been on vacation (out
    of town) for the past week and now I'm sick as a dog.  I hope to get
    these done this week.  Sorry about the delays.
    
    Greg

    What happened Greg?  Drink too much of that 'south of the border'
    water? ;-)
    
    Mike_who_lost_6_lbs_once_doing_that ;-)

    Well, that's what I have, but I didn't drink any of the water.
    
    Greg_who's_not_sure_how_much_weight_he's_lost

    
    
    
    	Soooooo.. thaaaaaaaaaaaat's how you dude's lose weight!!! [;^)
    
    
    Steve
    (how do you like my new crew-cut, Mom)

    Greg, I didn't know you had any weight to lose ;-)
    
    Steve, you want me to send you a bottle of the stuff? ;-)
    
    Mike

    
    "Make a run to the border" ;)
    
    Me thinks it's too much beer and sex causing stress to his 
    digestive system. ;) 
    
    What's that Greg?  You won't be playing with SRH this weekend?
    ;)
    
    Serves you right, Greg.  Didn't even ask me if I wanted to go!  ;)
    
    J-Dot

    
    
      Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    One of my tape players isn't working well, so I'm sending the master to
    Mike Heiser to duplicate for Steve and myself (who'll also be doing
    duplications for the rest of you).  Again, sorry about the delays.
    
    Greg (who hopes to have his tape deck into the shop by next week)

    I went home for lunch today and found the tape...
    
    The record highs we've been having in Phoenix seemed to have melted the
    tape to my mailbox...
    
    mega ;-)'s
    
    "I don't want what you want, I want what I want!"

    give the guy a break, what do you want for nothing?  ;-)
    
    I'd like a free lambourgini, no make that one of each colour and a
    truck and a mansion and a harem, well you get the idea....

    Not totally free, but it will certainly be profit-less.  I've sent the
    master to Mike who should have it in the next couple of days.  We'll
    have to check into postage and the cost of bulk blank tapes to let you
    know the final cost (for those of you that didn't already provide
    tapes).
    
    Again, sorry about the delays,
    Greg

    I should receive the tape in the mail today.  I'll let you know after
    lunch (I'll probably listen to it this afternoon while working ;-)).
    
    I've got the studio reserved all week so I can start dubbing tonight as
    long as it arrives.
    
    BTW - I also have a membership to a wholesale outfit in town where I
    buy TDK's and Maxell's in bulk (@ wholesale).  Anyone have any
    particular preference on brands?  I'll post the prices later.
    
    Mike

    
    
    
    	Greg, I went out and got a box of 10 90 minute cassettes a couple
    of weeks ago, you know, the kind in the plastic bags on sale in the
    drug stores... naaaah, just kidding..  and I'm planning on throwing
    them into the project.   I can manage two tapes a night when I get a
    master....   Were we going to use mailstops or outside mail??  If it's
    outside, I'll have a chance to use up a bunch of disk mailers that I
    have laying around to support my other compulsive hobby... [;^)...  If
    we're using mailstops things will be a piece of cake...
    
    
    Regards,
    Steve
    
    dbii will probably whine about the tape quality from my $39 emerson,
    shoot the guy runs his own 16 track studio, right??
    
    

8 track...16 only in dreams!

dbii

    When you make an entry in the liner notes, could you possibly include
    the guitar model, amp, and preamp used?  I noticed some just listed
    who's playing what, I think more guitar detail (effects too) would be
    helpful.
    
    Thanks,
    Mike

    What's the best way of setting up the orders to be filled?  How do they
    do it in COMMUSIC?
    
    I was thinking along the lines of setting up a note for orders and have
    it first come first serve.  I guess as long as it is fair, it don't
    matter.
    
    Mike

    If I remember right, in COMMUSIC they just list the people doing the
    copies home addresses and locations and you either send them a tape to
    put it on and return postage, or money for a tape, or hand them a tape
    to replace the one they hand you.
    
    I'd be opposed to having a note for orders.  I think sending requests
    to us directly would probably be better.  We do need to shop for bulk
    tapes and then based on the price we get put up a price for copies that
    will include that and postage.
    
    Greg

    
    If we sent in a contribution do we still send in a request?  Or do we
    automatically get a copy?
    
    Kevin
    

    Sorry, man.  Unless you asked me to write over the tape you sent me and
    gave me return postage then you still need to make a reqeust.  I think
    only one person did that.
    
    I can't afford to send out about 10 nice new tapes free...
    :-(
    
    Greg

    That's OK with me.  Is the tape ready?  Where are the distribution
    points?
    
    Kevin
    

    Yes, the tape's ready.  The distribution points will be Mike Heiser,
    Steve Greve and myself.
    
    The relative quality of our tape duplication equipment is:
    
    1) Mike
    2) Greg
    3) Steve
    
    However, the relative speed of getting a copy done and sent to you
    probably puts Steve on top.  So bear that in mind as you choose who to
    contact for your copy.
    
    At this point Mike still has the master and Steve and I don't have ours
    yet.  We'll have to get tapes to copy onto before we can determine how
    much the final product will cost and it may vary a little between us. 
    We'll let you know...
    
    Also if you want me to tape your copy over your submission tape, just
    let me know and I'll be happy to do that too.
    
    Greg
    

    I have about a dozen or so TDK SA90s that I'm not using and have only
    been recorded on once (all in good condition).  In trying to kill 2
    birds with 1 stone, you can have a copy on these for free if you allow
    me to get rid of them. ;-)
    
    There's nothing wrong with them.  I used to record my albums on blanks
    before I invested in a decent turntable and cassette deck.  I no longer
    do that and don't need them.
    
    You know where to reach me if you want one.  Otherwise, I'll be buying
    some new blanks.
    
    Mike

    
    
    RE: .170
    
    
    	Yep, well put Greg.. guitar tapes, not unlike life, is a set of
    compromises.
    
    [;^)
    
    Steve

    speaking of equipment, my deck is in for some regularly scheduled PM.
    The orders will have to slip a few days.
    
    Mike

    
     Whar's me tape???   8^Q
    

    Sitting at my house waiting for a copy of the master (hint hint,
    Mike)...
    

    
                                  
      Ok. Just wondering........8^)
    
         
    
    
    
    
    
    RichC 
                                  

    
    Oh, no!  I've wondered too long!  Now I'm lost!!!
    
    ;*)
    
    So-Hong

    I beleive this baby will be worth the wait ... hell, I forgot what I
    sent in now ...
    
    Scary (who forgets a lot these days ...)

    It will be worth it!  I'm sorry about the wait guys, haven't received
    my deck back yet.
    
    Mike

    I don't think the organizers of this should supply ANYTHING but their
    time and use of their equipment.
    
    When I was doing the COMMUSIC tapes I basically offered two simple
    "options" in order to not have to negotiate a specific method with
    each person that wanted the tape:
    
    I went out and bought either TDK SA's or Maxell UDXL-II for about
    $2 each in packs of 10.  I bought cassette mailing envelopes for
    about 75 cents apiece and postage was another 85 cents.
    
    So the two options were:
    
    1) You sent me inter-office mail saying you wanted a tape.  I made it
       and brought it two the office.  You gave me $2 for the tape, I 
       gave you the tape.
    
    2) You sent me a check for like $3.50 and I mailed you the tape via
       outside mail.
    
    I do not recommend using Inter-office mail.  I know for a fact that
    sometimes it is screened.
    
    We never really had a good solution for foeign distribution.  You get
    into problems with currency exchange, varying mailing costs, etc.
    Usually some nice eurpopean soul stepped forward and volunteered to
    be the Euro-distributor and that's as much as I knew.
    
    I would STRONGLY recommend doing it this way.  I don't want to go into
    it, but you want to keep it simple and have everyone do it the same
    way or it gets to be a pain, even if only a minor pain.
    
    $3.50 ain't that much and you can always reuse the tape.
    
    BTW, if you send me the liner notes, I can make a postscript file
    that prints out a standard cassette box insert with nice fonts and
    such.
    
    	db

    Thanks Dave!  I appreciate the information and the offer of making a PS
    label for the tape.  Mike's already come up with the label so you won't
    need to.
    
    Volume I Status:  Apparently Mikes tape deck is still in the shop and
    he hasn't been able to make copies of the master yet for Steve and I. 
    One of my tape decks is still in need of a cleaning/calibration which I
    hope to have done soon (the reason Mike is copying the master).
    
    Volume II Status:  I have three submissions that I'd guess consist of
    about 20 minutes worth of material so far.  Please continue to send
    your tapes to me and maybe we can have a quick followup to Volume I.
    
    Once again, I apologize for the amount of time this first one is
    taking.  I had the tapes to complete this from all of you a couple of
    months ago...
    
    Greg

    
    
    	I'm still ready to roll... cept, my little boy's little league team
    just won the state championship and I've got to go to Connecticut to
    watch him "kick ass" in the eastern regional tournament...  Watch out
    Taiwan!!!!  Mikey Greve is on his way!!!!
    
    
    Williamsport... here we come
    Steve

    
    
    Guys, tell you what.  Send the master to me and I'll make the copies.
    My deck works fine and it would take me 10 minutes here at work to
    borrow another one to make copies with.
    
    Making copies of 1 tape should be simple, right?
    
    Kevin
    

    
    Oh, yeah.  Do you have the master with you, Mike?  My roommates have a 
    Fisher double deck that produces excellent results.
    
    J.

    
    
    OK, I'll ask.  Is there any progress on the tape?  If you guys are too
    busy right now, send me the master. I'll be more than happy to make copies.
    
    
    Kevin
     

    
    
    
    	I continue to be ready to roll... soon as I get a tape to copy,
    I'll start "crankin" em' out....

    
    
   > 	I continue to be ready to roll... soon as I get a tape to copy,
   >    I'll start "crankin" em' out....

    
     Great.  Who is holding up the show?  
    
    Kevin
    
    

    Come on Mike, fess up !!!
    
    ;)

    Like I told you before, my deck went in for some minor adjustments.  I
    found out afterwards that the dealer's tech had to leave town for 2
    weeks.  He's back now but I'm out of town now.  I'll be picking it up
    when I get back and promise to make it first priority.  Hopefully the
    submasters will be out to the appropriate people by next weekend.
    
    You can't rush perfection. ;-)
    
    Mike

    Come on man, tell them how one of your kids dumped porridge into
    your decks tape transport...
    
    ;)

    Sorry Coop, we don't eat porridge (oatmeal maybe) and the NAK stays up
    on the wall unit way beyond their reach.  When you spend that much $$
    on something, you have to take care of it.
    
    Now if I can only get them to leave the M1 knobs and guitar tuning keys
    alone!
    
    Mike_who's_constantly_re-tuning

    
    
    
    	Porridge???   Whazat??   Some kind of southern corn flakes???  

    I thought only bears ate porridge?
    
    Well, bears, Canadians, and Englishmen.
    
    I guess we Americans are the only ones who call it Oatmeal.

    re: .192
    
    >Mike_who's_constantly_re-tuning
    
    Listen man, I played your guitar and *I* was constantly tuning (and
    there were no children in sight..)
    
    Greg

    
    RE: .195
    
    Well, there was jc and I...  ;^)
    
    Hey, Mike.  If ya send me one of those submasters, I could use my 
    roomie's deck to crank out copies here...
    
    J.

    RE: southern corn flakes
    
    Yo, Grevie!
    
    	Porridge ain't southern corn flakes: 
    
    		Grits is!
    
    --Chuck 
      (native West Virginian)

>    Listen man, I played your guitar and *I* was constantly tuning (and
>    there were no children in sight..)
    
    Maybe that's why Steve Greve sold his Mustang!  I'll see if I can make
    Slash an offer he can't refuse.  He won't have to worry about tuning
    it!  ;-)
    
    Mike

>    Listen man, I played your guitar and *I* was constantly tuning (and
>    there were no children in sight..)
    
    Well, it *is* a Fender... I thought they all did that.
    
    ;)

    
    
    
    	Mike.. puleeese don't sell that Mustang....  (At least if you do,
    give me a chance at it....  I'm working an amp problem now..)  I think
    it's going to be a cool thing for you to have when you gain entrance to
    the "gray haired old fart club"...
    
    
    	Fenders... yer supposed to tune em???

    
    Floyds.  Pain in the a$$ to tune first time, forget about it for 
    a while.  If a string breaks, SCREAM!!!
    ;^)
    
    J.  Who_has_love_hate_relationship_with_his_floyds
    

    
    	Well... from my guesstimation, it's been over 4 months since
    	90 minutes of material was submitted.  A few others have
    	offered their duping decks - have the dupers taken them up
    	on it?  The original excitement has certainly worn off.
    
    	??
    

    
    Yeah, by the time the tape is ready, we'll all be transitioned 
    
    8^)  8^)  8^)  8^)
    
    							Brian

    
    I'm betting that someone's dog ate the tape and they don't want to
    admit it.  Or, perhaps it was confiscated by the PMRC for obscene
    lyrics?  The tape was so "hot" it set someone's deck on fire?
    
    Gotta be a reason.
    
    Kevin
    

    Only 4 months?  How many months did it take to get the 90 minutes worth
    of material in?  How long did it take for Boston to record their last
    album?
    
    I knew we shouldn't have used Pony Express!

    
    
    	Guess it took 3 months to record and submit all the material
    	and 4 months to dupe.
    
    	Anxious to hear it, that's all.
    
    	Tom
    
    	

    I can send the tape to whoever wants to take on a third of the duplication 
    chores.  A chip is on order for my Nakamichi deck from their factory.  
    They said it would be ready for this weekend, but who knows.
    
    The problem lies in the quality of the recording.  Everyone is going to
    end up with a 4th generation copy, no matter how you slice it.  On
    lesser equipment, the quality will deteriorate REAL fast with multiple
    generations.
    
    We still need to discuss/setup the cost for each tape and volume 2 
    probably needs more submissions.  This would buy some time while we
    wait.  You folks decide.  I don't like this anymore than you, I've been
    without the deck for a month!
    
    Mike

    
    
    
    	As a contributor, Mike, I feel comfortable waiting..  I know that
    you've made an investment in time and I want to see you get the part of
    the project that interested you in the beginning finished...
    
    	As a "duper" I feel comfortable waiting...  I'm gonna give copies
    of mine out for Christmas presents this year (and by Steve's amp with
    the money I save) to my entire family.. but Chirstmas is a long time
    down tyhe road...
    
    	As a DEC employee, I feel comfortable waiting... heck I'm in
    transition anyway... wish they could transisiotn me into a guitar
    playing job...
    
    	As a fellow human being, I feel comfortable waiting... time is what
    we have together...
    
    
    
    	Silly note, huh....?  Relax. wait for your deck to come back!
    
    
    Regards,
    Steve
    Fellow duper..

    I still think Mikes kid put Gruel in his deck...
    
    ...But maybe Kevin is write and the PMRC played Little Teaser Bitch
    backwards and heard that Whitby's moaning was really satanic messages.
    
    ;)

    
    Mike, if your deck isn't ready by next week some time, I'll be glad to
    take the tape to make copies.  I've got an older Nak (480) in good service
    that should do fine.
    
    I should be able to run off a batch pretty quick and send the master
    along.
    
    Kevin
    
    

    Fair enough Kevin!  My Nak has been great outside of the Dolby EQ
    section.  It never quite worked right.  Hopefully this will be solved
    soon.
    
    Mike

    
    I love it when a plan comes together!  8-)
    
    Kevin
    

    
    They had a plan?   8->
    
    J.

    The master tape was mailed to Kevin today.  I'm still waiting for my 
    Dolby chip.  I'll join the duplication efforts when I get my deck back.
    
    Mike

    Where's that tape?  Why aren't we getting our copies?  It's been months
    and months and we haven't seen *anything*!  I want my tape!
    
    ;^)
    
    I presume this means that I don't have to make you a copy now, Kevin?
    
    Greg

    
    Well?  Where's the Vol 2?
    
    ;^)
    

    I was thinking it would be interesting - maybe - if volume 3 was 
    different interpretations of the same tune, something everybody knows
    or can learn. Just a thought. 

    
    Huh?

    Interesting idea, Andrew.  That could prove quite enlightening!
    
    I wonder how difficult this would be (especially to decide on a piece)
    given the variety of musical styles and tastes among the readers of
    this notesfile.
    
    re: J.
    
    He's saying we decide on one single musical piece and we each submit
    our own interpretation (performance in our own style) of it and the
    tape has a bunch of different peoples versions of the same piece of
    music.
    
    Greg           

    
    OH!!!  ;^)
    
    How about desinating a pieces for classical, rock, jazz, metal...
    Have 4 or 5 styles, and each style would have a song designated?
    
    J.

    Pretty cute idea indeed ... we haven't got through V-1, ,and already
    we're planning V-3 !   8^)
    
    Seriously though ... it would be interesting ...
    
    
    Scary

    
    
    
    	Heck, I haven't seen a submaster yet!  How can you be "getting
    through it?"
    
    	Andy, my man, awesome idea!!!  I vote for Louie, Louie!!!

    I thought about that too, but then this AM I started whistling the
    Darth Vader theme from Star Wars ... 

    Yo Steve!  Ain't seen no sub-masters either, but if you talk nice to
    Coop maybe he'll send you the old Guitarnotes photo album and you can
    see a subhuman (my photo's in there)!
    
    Greg

    
    
    
    	Yeah, coop, how about it.. will I have bad dreams if I look at
    Greg's picture??   Must be quite a contrast to my more traditinal, more
    homey shots, huh??   Just a boy and his hobby (and a chain saw.. hee
    hee)...
    
    
    Hoooney I'm hooooooome....
    
    Steve
    

    Yeah Coop, I be wantin to see that dare fo-toe album!
    
    Where iz it at?

    It's probably packed up in their stuff headed cross country right now.
    The old moving van won't arrive until Thursday (or was it Friday?).
    
    gh

    
    
     I hope somebody's still got my fargin self addressed, pre-stamped
    envelope........=*^]
    
    
    
    
    RC
    

<CASSETTE>(<declogo> Guitar Noters Volume 1)
<side_a>(
<list>(simple)
<align_char>(#)
<le> Tom DesRochers - 'Cause We've <line>
     ############Ended As Lovers
<le> Rich Coccoli - My Secret Life <line>
     ###########- Pariah <line>
     ###########- Gerbil In My <line>
     #############Pocket
<le> Steve Greve - Students <line>
     ############Revenge <line>
     ##########- You Tied Me Up <line> 
     ###########and Left Me You <line>
     ###########Dirty Cheezedick
<le> Bob Conroy - Lady and the <line>
     ############Unicorn <line>
     ###########- Sarabande
<le> Jerry White & - Raise The <line>
     Jeff Cooper ####Stakes <line>
     #############- Little Teaser <line>
     #############- Her Love
<endlist>)

<side_b>(
<list>(simple)
<le> Kevin McDonough - Goin' Down
<le> Brian Rost	- Nothing But Time <line>
     #########- Parallel
<le> Larry Vignealt - Theme From <line>
     ##############The Unknown <line>
     ##############Movie <line>
     ############- The Way She <line>
     ##############Makes Me Smile  <line>
     ############- Just A Blues <line>
     ##############Jam
<le> Bill Buckley - Reminicence Of <line>
     #############Rio  <line>
     ###########- Fallen Angel
<le> John Williams - Traveler  <line>
     #############- East Block Stomp
<endalign_char>
<endlist>)
<ENDCASSETTE>

    re: .231
    
    Paul, it would be better for you to just post the postscript.  Not
    everyone knows how to run Document and even less people know the
    secret sysmgr incantations need to get the Casette doctype.
    
    re: the "next" tape
    
    Regarding all these suggestions about what the theme or content of
    the next tape should be like.
    
    Geez!!! You guys are alredy beginning to sound like a record company!
    
    It should have WHATEVER people want to submit.  I don't think there
    should be any constraints or suggestions as to what it should be.
    
    My guess is that if you even suggested that a particular guideline,
    you probably wouldn't get enough submissions.
    
    	db

>    Paul, it would be better for you to just post the postscript.  Not
>    everyone knows how to run Document and even less people know the
>    secret sysmgr incantations need to get the Casette doctype.
    
    There I go having an identity crisis again, right Greg? ;-) (inside joke)
    
    PostScript is in the next reply.  Apologies to DECwindows Notes users.
    
    Mike

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/int-dict-name {int (-dict) concatnam} def
/int-dict {int (-dict) concatnam cvx load} def
%
/DefinePXLFont {
	%  <int-font-name><ext-font-name><pt-sz(pix)><PXL mag><num-chars>...
	%  ...[llx lly urx ury]<newfont-fg>DefinePXLFont
  /newfont exch def  /bb exch def      /num exch def  /psz exch def
  /dsz exch def      /pxlmag exch def  /ext exch def  /int exch def
  /fnam ext (-) concatnam pxlmag cvsstr cvs concatnam def
  newfont not {
    int-dict-name 13 dict def
    int-dict begin
      /FontType 3 def  /FontMatrix [ 1 dsz div 0 0 1 dsz div 0 0 ] def
      /FontBBox bb TransformBBox def  /Encoding CMEncodingArray def
      /CharDict 1 dict def  CharDict begin  /Char-Info num array def  end
      /BuildChar {
        PXLBuildCharDict begin
          /char exch def  /fontdict exch def
          fontdict /CharDict get /Char-Info get char get aload pop
          /rasters exch def  /PackedWord1 exch def
          0 PackedWord1 UnpkHW 16#7FFF ne {
	    /PackedWord2 exch def  /wx 0 PackedWord1 UnpkHW def
            /rows 2 PackedWord1 UnpkByte def  /cols 3 PackedWord1 UnpkByte def
            /llx 0 PackedWord2 UnpkByte def   /lly 1 PackedWord2 UnpkByte def
            /urx 2 PackedWord2 UnpkByte def   /ury 3 PackedWord2 UnpkByte def
	  }{ %else
	    /PackedWord2 exch def  /PackedWord3 exch def  /PackedWord4 exch def
            /wx 1 PackedWord1 UnpkHW def    /rows 0 PackedWord2 UnpkHW def
            /cols 1 PackedWord2 UnpkHW def  /llx 0 PackedWord3 UnpkHW def
            /lly 1 PackedWord3 UnpkHW def   /urx 0 PackedWord4 UnpkHW def
            /ury 1 PackedWord4 UnpkHW def
          } ifelse
          rows 0 lt {
	    /rows rows neg def /runlength 1 def
	  }{ %else
	    /runlength 0 def
	  } ifelse
          wx 0
          llx RasterConvert lly RasterConvert 
          urx RasterConvert ury RasterConvert setcachedevice
          rows 0 ne {
	    gsave
	      cols rows true  RasterScaleFactor 
              0 0 RasterScaleFactor neg llx .5 add neg ury .5 add 
              tempmatrix astore  GenerateRasters imagemask
            grestore
          } if
        end
      } def
    end
    fnam int-dict definefont pop 
  } if 
  int-dict-name fnam findfont psz scalefont def
  currentdict int [ int-dict /setfont cvx ] cvx put
} def 
/PXLF { true  DefinePXLFont} def	% SIGNAL THAT FONT IS ALREADY LOADED
/PXLNF {false  DefinePXLFont} def	% SIGNAL THAT FONT IS NOT ALREADY LOADED
%
/PXLC {	% <int-font-name><code><wx><llx><lly><urx><ury>...
	% ...<rows><cols><runlength><rasters>PXLC
  /rasters exch def  /runlength exch def  /cols exch def  /rows exch def
  /ury exch def      /urx exch def        /lly exch def   /llx exch def
  /wx exch def       /code exch def       /int exch def
  % SEE IF LONG OR SHORT FORMAT IS REQUIRED
  true cols CKSZ rows CKSZ ury CKSZ urx CKSZ lly CKSZ llx CKSZ 
  TackRunLengthToRows {
    int-dict /CharDict get /Char-Info get code 
    [ 0 0 llx PackByte 1 lly PackByte 2 urx PackByte 3 ury PackByte
      0 0 wx PackHW 2 rows PackByte 3 cols PackByte rasters ] put
  }{ %else
    int-dict /CharDict get /Char-Info get code 
    [ 0 0 urx PackHW 1 ury PackHW   0 0 llx PackHW 1 lly PackHW
      0 0 rows PackHW 1 cols PackHW 0 0 16#7FFF PackHW 1 wx PackHW rasters ] put
  } ifelse
} def
%
/CKSZ {abs 127 le and} def
/TackRunLengthToRows {runlength 0 ne {/rows rows neg def} if} def
%
/PLOTC {
  % <wx><dsz><psz><llx><lly><urx><ury><rows><cols><runlength><rasters>PLOTC
  /rasters exch def  /runlength exch def  /cols exch def  /rows exch def
  /ury exch def      /urx exch def        /lly exch def   /llx exch def
  /psz exch def      /dsz exch def        /wx exch def
  % "PLOT" A CHARACTER'S RASTER PATTERN
  rows 0 ne {
    gsave
      currentpoint translate  psz dsz div dup scale
      cols rows true  RasterScaleFactor 0 0 RasterScaleFactor 
      neg llx .5 add neg ury .5 add  tempmatrix astore
      GenerateRasters imagemask
    grestore
  } if
  wx x
} def
%
/AlignMark
%
% This procedure draws an alignment mark centered on the coordinate system
% origin. If the variable DEC$EDMS_SEPARATE_COLORS = 0 then a "positive"
% alignment mark is drawn. If DEC$EDMS_SEPARATE_COLORS <> 0 then a "negative"
% alignment mark is drawn. 
%
% Formal Arguments: NONE
%
% Referenced Variables: DEC$EDMS_SEPARATE_COLORS
%
% Referenced Procedures: NONE
%
% Side Effects: NONE
%
{ DEC$EDMS_SEPARATE_COLORS 0 eq
  { 0 0 300 0 360 arc
    0 -450 moveto 0 450 lineto -450 0 moveto 450 0 lineto stroke }
  { 0 0 450 0 360 arc fill 1 setgray 0 0 300 0 360 arc 
    0 -450 moveto 0 450 lineto -450 0 moveto 450 0 lineto stroke 0 setgray }
  ifelse
} bind def
/SC
% If not making film, the following procedure sets the current color using the
% RGB color model. If making film, the procedure notes the "color pass" and,
% if the specified color index matches the color pass, subsequent marks are
% written in black. If the specified color index does not match the color pass,
% marks are written in white. Use of colors on individual pages is also tracked
% to allow pages that don't use a particular color to be suppressed on that
% color pass (by the code in the /PP routine).
%
% Formal Arguments: color index (on stack)
%
% Referenced Variables: Colorsused
%			DEC$EDMS_SEPARATE_COLORS
%			DEC$EDMS_SUPPRESS_COLOR
%
% Referenced Procedures: NONE
%
% Side Effects: Modifies the variable Colorsused to record use of the color.
%
{ /DEC$EDMS_SUPPRESS_COLOR where		% if suppressing color
  { pop 0 setgray pop }				% .then set "color" to Black 
  { /DEC$EDMS_SEPARATE_COLORS where		% .else if separating colors
    { pop dup DEC$EDMS_SEPARATE_COLORS eq	% ..and if on this color pass
      { 0 setgray /Colorsused Colorsused	% ...then write black (do write)
        2 3 index exp cvi or def }		% ...and note use of the "color"
      { 1 setgray } ifelse pop }		% ...else write white (don't write)
    { DEC$EDMS_Colorarray exch get aload			% ..else get the PMS color value
      pop setrgbcolor } ifelse			% ..approximations and set them
  } ifelse
} def
end  %DEC_DVC$dict
%%EndProlog
%%BeginSetup
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% DefineFont:F171 Category:15 PointSize:14
% DownloadPSFont
%!PS-Adobe-2.0
%%Title: PostScript Digital Logo Font, v1.1
%%Creator: Ned Batchelder
%%CreationDate: 9-Nov-87
%%DocumentFonts: Symbol
%%DocumentSuppliedFonts: DigitalLogo
%%EndComments
%
%		    DIGITAL INTERNAL USE ONLY
% 
% INTRODUCTION:
% This rendition of the Digital logo was prepared by Ned Batchelder using 
% Adobe Illustrator and hand manipulation of the resulting PostScript code.
% Photographic masters of the logo were obtained from David Comberg in the
% Graphic Design Group. Additional consultation was provided by Elliot
% Hendrickson, one of the original designers of the logo.
% 
% USE:
% This file defines a new PostScript font, called /DigitalLogo. It consists
% of three characters. (d) is the entire Digital logo, (t) is a small
% trademark symbol, and (T) is a large trademark symbol. The font is designed
% so that the argument to scalefont is the height of the logo. There is no
% extra white space around the logo at all. The trademarks are designed to be
% shown right after the logo, and they align themselves. The only correct
% strings to show with this font are (d), (dt), and (dT). There is an entry
% (named GapWidth) in the font dictionary which gives the unscaled width of
% the gap between the blocks. This distance is given because it is used as a
% unit to determine how much space to leave around the logo.
% 
% HISTORY:
% The logo was designed in 1957 by Elliot Hendrickson, who was then working
% as an independent designer. He was contracted by DEC to do a brochure, and
% DEC wanted a logo to accompany it. The logo up to then had been the letters
% DEC in blocks the shape of the plug-in cards that DEC had been producing.
% Elliot re-worked the logo, incorporating letters which were hand-drawn for 
% the purpose by Arthur Hover(?). The logo has been maintained since then in 
% conventional technology, ie, film masters. There was at least one reworking 
% of the logo at some point.
% 
% The masters I received had a number of interesting features. The boxes were
% not all the same width, and there seemed to be no logic to which boxes were
% wider. The 'g' was the narrowest, and the 'i' and 'l' were second widest.
% Also, the two 'i's were not exactly the same shape. On ten-inch masters,
% (one box to an 8�x11 sheet), the boxes were not rectangles, but were very
% slightly tapered in wierd ways. I assume that the tapering is the result of
% too many reproductions, but the difference in widths may have been
% deliberate at some time. Elliot reports that when he drew it, all boxes
% were the same width. I have retained the different widths in my version,
% since the experts I had at hand did not seem to think I should make them
% uniform.
% 
% Please feel free to use this logo, but keep in mind the following:
% 
% 1. This code is for INTERNAL USE ONLY.
% 2. I am not entirely happy with the final shapes of the letters, and am
% hoping to improve them. Please allow for future updates to this code.
% 3. Only use this logo within the guidelines of the Corporate Identity
% program. If you use this font precisely as is, you can't get in much
% trouble. Don't take the shapes and do strange things with them. 
% In particular, the Identity states that the logo is a one-color logo: The
% letters are actually holes in the blocks, through which the background can
% be seen. Do not modify this code so that the letters are always white.
% 
% Edit history:
% 
% 21-Sep-87 nmb	    Created as a standalone file with demo.
%  6-Nov-87 nmb	    Converted to font form.
%  9-Nov-87 nmb	    Removed // uses for compatibility with LW Classics
%
%%BeginFont: DigitalLogo
10 dict begin
/FontInfo 3 dict def
FontInfo begin
    /Notice
(The Digital logo is a registered trademark of Digital Equipment Corporation.)
    def
    /FullName (Digital logo) def
    /version (1.1) def
    end
/FontType 3 def				% This is a user-defined font
/FontMatrix matrix def			% Use an identity transform
/FontBBox [ 0 0 3.383 1 ] def		% Logo itself is biggest
/GapWidth .070 def			% The width of the gap between boxes
/Encoding 256 array def
0 1 255 { Encoding exch /.notdef put } bind for
Encoding
dup (d) 0 get /DEC-logo put		% (d) gives logo
dup (t) 0 get /smalltrademark put	% (t) gives small trademark
    (T) 0 get /largetrademark put	% (T) gives large trademark
/Work 15 dict def			% for doing work in font.
/BuildChar {
    exch begin				% Use the font dictionary
	Work begin
	    Encoding exch get		% Look up the character name
	    load			% Pull out the procedure
	    exec			% Run it.
	    end				% Work
	end				% fontdict
    } bind def
Work begin
/.notdef {} def
%
% - `DEC-logo' -
%
% Images a DEC logo with the lower left corner at the current origin, with a
% height of one unit, in the current color.
% 
/m /moveto load def
/l /lineto load def
/c /curveto load def
/DEC-logo {
    3.383 0 0 0 3.383 1 setcachedevice
    {	% D
	% d counter
	.2930 .3513 m
	.2932 .3217 .2587 .2758 .2167 .2757 c
	.1719 .2759 .1280 .3165 .1280 .3977 c
	.1280 .4801 .1718 .5225 .2153 .5227 c
	.2587 .5225 .2932 .4760 .2930 .4407 c
	closepath
	% d outside
	.2953 .5787 m
	.2953 .7600 l
	.3843 .7600 l
	.3843 .1960 l
	.2923 .1960 l
	.2923 .2220 l
	.2848 .2144 .2531 .1813 .1990 .1813 c
	.1426 .1812 .0417 .2282 .0417 .3977 c
	.0417 .5414 .1171 .6157 .2067 .6157 c
	.2399 .6157 .2725 .6039 .2953 .5787 c
	closepath
	% d box
	.432 0.0 m
	.432 1.0 l
	.000 1.0 l
	.000 0.0 l
	closepath
	} exec
    {	% I
	% i box
	.927 0.0 m
	.927 1.0 l
	.502 1.0 l
	.502 0.0 l
	closepath
	% i body
	.6695 .196 m
	.6695 .600 l
	.7595 .600 l
	.7595 .196 l
	closepath
	% i dot
	.6695 .655 m
	.6695 .755 l
	.7595 .755 l
	.7595 .655 l
	closepath
	} exec
    {	% G
	% g counter
	1.2813 .4478 m
	1.2813 .4837 1.2409 .5208 1.2035 .5208 c
	1.1713 .5208 1.1215 .5003 1.1215 .4084 c
	1.1215 .3105 1.1827 .2962 1.2030 .2962 c
	1.2433 .2962 1.2813 .3239 1.2813 .3667 c
	closepath
	% g box
	0.997 1.0 m
	1.415 1.0 l
	1.415 0.0 l
	0.997 0.0 l
	closepath
	% g outside
	1.2822 .5609 m
	1.2729 .5742 1.2424 .6044 1.1988 .6044 c
	1.1311 .6043 1.0367 .5652 1.0367 .3955 c
	1.0368 .2617 1.1437 .2168 1.1876 .2168 c
	1.2350 .2167 1.2702 .2443 1.2798 .2547 c
	1.2798 .2126 l
	1.2798 .1815 1.2479 .1511 1.1945 .1511 c
	1.1485 .1512 1.1437 .1807 1.1437 .1953 c
	1.0497 .1953 l
	1.0497 .1486 1.0798 .0804 1.1888 .0803 c
	1.2864 .0803 1.3186 .1176 1.3325 .1316 c
	1.3442 .1434 1.3617 .1758 1.3617 .2017 c
	1.3617 .6 l
	1.2823 .6 l
	closepath
	} exec
    {	% I
	% i box
	1.910 0.0 m
	1.910 1.0 l
	1.485 1.0 l
	1.485 0.0 l
	closepath
	% i body
	1.6525 .196 m
	1.6525 .6 l
	1.7425 .6 l
	1.7425 .196 l
	closepath
	% i dot
	1.6525 .655 m
	1.6525 .755 l
	1.7425 .755 l
	1.7425 .655 l
	closepath
	} exec
    {	% T
	% t
	2.2128 .7525 m
	2.1305 .7525 l
	2.1305 .6071 l
	2.0874 .6071 l
	2.0874 .5396 l
	2.1305 .5396 l
	2.1305 .2852 l
	2.1305 .2367 2.1554 .1986 2.2248 .1987 c
	2.2573 .1987 2.2560 .1985 2.2842 .2034 c
	2.2842 .2874 l
	2.2658 .2842 2.2601 .2829 2.2511 .2832 c
	2.2338 .2837 2.2128 .2898 2.2128 .3206 c
	2.2128 .5395 l
	2.2780 .5395 l
	2.2780 .6071 l
	2.2128 .6071 l
	closepath
	% t box
	2.404 0.0 m
	1.980 0.0 l
	1.980 1.0 l
	2.404 1.0 l
	closepath
	} exec
    {	% A
	% a box
	2.474 0.0 m
	2.474 1.0 l
	2.888 1.0 l
	2.888 0.0 l
	closepath
	% a outside
	2.5439 .4728 m
	2.6210 .4728 l
	2.6210 .5138 2.6422 .5353 2.6826 .5353 c
	2.7470 .5354 2.7449 .5067 2.7448 .4708 c
	2.7050 .4553 2.7087 .4557 2.6480 .4419 c
	2.5709 .4241 2.5237 .3911 2.5236 .3112 c
	2.5237 .2331 2.5793 .1914 2.6420 .1915 c
	2.7048 .1914 2.7178 .2117 2.7438 .2290 c
	2.7438 .1978 l
	2.8422 .1978 l
	2.8190 .2352 2.8251 .2425 2.8249 .2706 c
	2.8250 .2926 2.8249 .5080 2.8249 .5080 c
	2.8250 .5507 2.8028 .5768 2.7883 .5855 c
	2.7521 .6071 2.7074 .6097 2.6826 .6098 c
	2.5945 .6096 2.5438 .5653 2.5439 .4728 c
	closepath
	% a counter
	2.7448 .3946 m
	2.7448 .3401 l
	2.7448 .3152 2.7145 .2670 2.6550 .2669 c
	2.6260 .2668 2.6098 .2883 2.6097 .3162 c
	2.6098 .3442 2.6335 .3657 2.6536 .3697 c
	2.6745 .3739 2.7226 .3862 2.7448 .3946 c
	closepath
	} exec
    {	% L
	% l box
	3.383 0.0 m
	3.383 1.0 l
	2.958 1.0 l
	2.958 0.0 l
	closepath
	% l
	3.1255 .196 m
	3.1255 .765 l
	3.2155 .765 l
	3.2155 .196 l
	closepath
	} exec
    fill
    } bind def
%
% % pct `trademark' --
%
% Borrow the sans-serif trademark symbol from /Symbol. AFM file says:
%	C 228 ; WX 786 ; N trademarksans ; B 5 293 725 673 ;
% We scale it down to pct percent of the height of the logo and superscript 
% it some, and voila!
%
/trademark {
    /s exch .380 div def
    /w s .725 mul .070 add def
    /u 1 .673 s mul sub def
    w 0 0 u w 1 setcachedevice
    /Symbol findfont s scalefont setfont
    .070 u m					% Superscript it
    (\344) show
    } bind def
% 
% These are two different trademarks (just different sizes).
%
/smalltrademark { .15 trademark } def
/largetrademark { .25 trademark } def
end						% Work dictionary
currentdict					% Get the font dict
end						% Close it up
/DigitalLogo exch definefont pop		% Define the font.
%%EndFont
% EndDownloadPSFont
/F171 700.0 /DigitalLogo DPSF
% DefineFont:F159 Category:10 PointSize:8
/NewCenturySchlbk-Roman /NewCenturySchlbk-Roman@DOCPSE DOCPSE ReENCODE
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% DefineFont:F152 Category:10 PointSize:10
/NewCenturySchlbk-Italic /NewCenturySchlbk-Italic@DOCPSE DOCPSE ReENCODE
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% DefineFont:F40 Category:10 PointSize:9
/Helvetica-Bold /Helvetica-Bold@DOCPSE DOCPSE ReENCODE
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/DEC$EDMS_SUPPRESS_COLOR true def
/DEC$EDMS_ColorCount 4 def
/DEC$EDMS_Colornames {
  (Color-1) (Color-2) (Color-3) (Color-4)
  DEC$EDMS_ColorCount array astore } def
/DEC$EDMS_Colorarray {
  0 0 0 1 4 array astore  %color 0 CMYK array
  0 0 0 1 4 array astore  %color 1 CMYK array
  0 0 0 1 4 array astore  %color 2 CMYK array
  0 0 0 1 4 array astore  %color 3 CMYK array
  DEC$EDMS_ColorCount array astore } def
/DVC$PSFonts save def
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    How about a copy for ME.  I'm in australia does this make it difficult?

    
    
    
      RE .235
    
      The Guitarnotes Volume I Liner Notes Topic is #1809.
    
    I trashed the accompaning Review note, as it seemed a little premature.
    ( I have a gift for understatement, eh laddies?)
    
    
    
    RichC
    

    
    	re: Mr Down under, I should think that if you find out how much
    	UPS charges are and provide the full mailing address, that anything
    	is possible.  At least that's what the UPS commercials indicate.
    
    	-pat

    What is ups?
    Can it be sent cod?
    Mr down under?????

    
    U nited 
    P arcel 
    S ervice.
    

    
    
    	UPS= United Parcel Service
    	COD= Food Fish here in the States
    
    
    Heh, heh.. sorry..  [;^)

    
    
    As an update...
    
    Within a day or two, I will have completed 15 copies of the tape, which
    is all I really have time to do. I'll be forwarding the master to Steve
    Greve and a submaster to Greg so that they can do some copies, too.
    
    If you've already sent me mail, I'll be sending out the remaining
    copies this week. If I haven't already heard from you, best check with
    Greg or Steve.
    
    Kevin
    
    

    Thanks to Kevin for getting this done!
    
    Greg

    Greg,
    
    I have something I want to submit to the next tape, but you've got to
    promise me that you won't tweak it in any way.  I don't know how other
    people feel, but I don't want someone adjusting the EQ or adding
    reverb.
    
    I don't know how others feel, but I think you shouldn't be doing that
    without asking first. 
    
    	db

    Yo DB,
    
    Can't speak for Greg, but I think the only thing he "colorized"
    was a left-side-only submission, which he made into left/right
    with some stereo reverb from his SGE.  Correct me if I'm wrong
    here, but I don't thing he changed any EQ, he just made a 
    recording more "useable".
    
    jc 

    It's the adding reverb that I would have a problem with.

    Regarding adding reverb to Bobs piece, I believe he and I had discussed
    that a long time ago when he told me he was sending me a 1 track
    recording done on a 4-track machine.  I suggested making it stereo by
    adding a little reverb with a good quality effects unit and (I thought)
    he agreed to that.  
    
    If my memory has failed me or I remembered something incorrectly, then
    my deepest apologys to you Bob and I'll resubmit your piece for the
    next tape without any modifications.  If it's really a big issue, I
    would even be willing to redo the master and send it around again.
    
    As far as EQ went, I did not use an equilizer to make any adjustments
    to the sound.  As I said before, NOBODY TOLD ME WHAT BIAS OR TAPE EQ
    SETTINGS THEY USED ON THE TAPES THEY SENT ME (except Brian, and maybe
    Rich).  If people had marked their tapes or told me how it was
    recorded, I would have respected that as I did with Brians submission. 
    Since I wasn't told how it was done, I experimented with them until I
    decide how *I* thought it sounded best.  Quite honestly, this
    guesstimation took quite a lot of time on my part and I would have
    preferred not to have had to do it.  
    
    Dave, I would never think of doing anything to alter your work.
    
    I'm starting to get kind of tired of all the flack people seem to be
    giving me about how long it took me and what I did to "screw up"
    peoples work.  Maybe someone else should do Volume 2...
    
    Greg

    Greg,
    
    Welcome to the club. I recorded "Falljam" and "Springjam" a couple
    of years ago. That in itself was a major chore. Making tape copies
    for everyone was an even bigger chore. Most of the people I made
    tapes for were very cooperative and appreciative, but there were a
    few that acted like a owed it to them. I had some people criticizing
    the way I did the recording/mixdown, and other people that wanted
    multiple copies (like 10 copies of their sets). Some people bitched 
    because I wouldn't give them the masters. 
    
    I stated quite clearly up front that I was making all copies on Maxell 
    UDXLII C90 and expected people to provide me with a brand new blank 
    tape to replace the one I gave them. I had people sending me used tape,
    tape with no jewel box, cheap Recitron cassettes, etc. I made copies 
    for some people that never even bothered to pick them up.
    
    Never again !! 
    Mark

    
    
    	Without pointing any fingers, it's *mondo* unfair of to be 
    giving Greg any flack about *anything* to do with this. He volunteered
    his time to do it without (of course) any compensation for his time
    and efforts. 
    
    -Tom
    (Also tired of hearing about it)
    

    
    Since it was my submission that was "colorized" I have a few
    comments. I recorded the pieces mono into one track as Greg
    said, one guitar, one mike, one track, nothing in between.
    
    I don't remember exactly what we discussed about it, but
    what Greg did is commonly done with classical guitar
    recordings and I have no objection to it, as long as
    the reverb was subtle. I'm certainly not going to
    complain without hearing the tape, and if I did I'd
    probably comment to Greg off-line.
    
    Probably most of us think this is a good idea, but also
    probably few of us would be willing to volunteer the time
    to make it happen; so let's give Greg some thank-you's
    rather than flack.
    
    Bob

    
    This one's for Greg.
    
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    J.

    Greg,
    
    How can I convince you that it was NOT my intention to give you "flack"
    about this? 
    
    > Regarding adding reverb to Bobs piece, I believe he and I had discussed
    > that a long time ago 
    
    From your original note, I think I was quite justified in presuming
    that you had decided on your own to add reverb without asking.
    
    Consider what you wrote:
    
>    That's Bob Conroy (slightly enhanced with stereo reverb from a one
>    track master courtesy of myself and ART, I hope Bob doesn't mind my
>    addition)
    
    If you accept that I had been given a reasonable impression that you
    had decided to "colorize" on your own, how might I voice my concern
    over this not being done to my submissions without having you feel
    I'm giving you "flack".
    
    Is it reasonable for me to express that, or should I have just clammed
    up and not submitted my pieces?
    
    Look, I generated the masters for three COMMUSIC tapes and did
    distribution for all seven.  My records show I've made over 250 copies
    of COMMUSIC tapes!
    
    I know that it's easy to take comments on the process personally but
    you have to presume that people have the best motives for offering
    those comments because, in my experience, they usually do.
    
    I don't think there's anyone in here who isn't greatful for what you've
    done, and I think I can safely state that NO ONE knows how much it
    involved more than me.
    
    OK?  Peace?
    
    	db

    Ok, Dave, I accept that.  I suppose it did sound like I spontaneously
    added reverb to Bob's submission from what I said before.  What I ment
    was he hadn't heard exactly what I did yet, so I hoped he liked the
    outcome.  At this point I've gotten rather confused and I can't really
    remember if Bob and I discussed this before I did that or not.  At the
    time I did it, I honestly believed we had.  We've discussed it now
    though.
    
    I did admit to spontaneously having to guess what people used for tape
    EQ (biasing) and noise reduction though.  It was never my intent to
    alter the sound of any of the submissions, just to try and find the
    settings they used.
    
    I guess I'm just a little sensative about this from some of the
    previous comments (on and off line).  I will be happy when the tape
    gets out and things quiet down and we can get on with the next one
    (whether I put it together or someone else does).
    
    Sorry.
    Greg

    On the otehr hand...if I send someone who was mastering a tape, and my
    submission sounded inherently boomy on their system, I would not mind
    them eqing the mixdown a tad to clean it up a bit.  i mean, if it would
    make it better, wtf?

    >Greg,
    
   >I have something I want to submit to the next tape, but you've got to
    >promise me that you won't tweak it in any way.  I don't know how other
    >people feel, but I don't want someone adjusting the EQ or adding
    >reverb.
    
    
    	Shoot, I was hoping I could get him to add drums, bass, and a solo
    or two to the stuff I submitted...   [;^)

    
    
    
    Dave,
    
    	How I think I would have said it...  Hope this helps....
    
    
    >Greg,
     House Unit,
    
    >I have something I want to submit to the next tape, but you've got to
    >promise me that you won't tweak it in any way.  
    
     I have something that I'd like to submit for the next tape and I've
    worked hard at getting the tone just right.  Would you be willing to let
    me know if you feel it needs any "coloring"??..... before you actually
    DO the "coloring"??
    
    
    >I don't know how other
    >people feel, but I don't want someone adjusting the EQ or adding
    >reverb.
    
    The EQ on this piece is especially important to me, and adjustments in
    reverb would be something I wouldn't want, unless we talked.
    
    
    >I don't know how others feel, but I think you shouldn't be doing that
    >without asking first. 
    
    	I realize that I'm asking you to take special care with my music,
    and want you to know how much I appreciate that!
    
    
    	>db
    
    	Your pal, Grevemeister
    
    
    	
    	Dave, I really do hope this is helpful.  I think the answer to your
    question lies in your excellent writing abilities.. no, no, wait for a
    minute and listen...
    
    	I've read you in other notes and your writing is so expressive that
    I sometimes add tones, and modes to your notes (In my head) and later
    find out (by reading further) that the tone I felt didn't apply at all.
    
    	The tone I felt when I read your note to Greg, was one of
    abruptness.. and my hunch is (based on the long helpful notes you've
    been willing to prepare for me, when I asked music questions in the
    past) that you didn't intend that at all, and that you value highly
    Greg's willingness to do this work for our group.
    
    
    Regards,
    Steve

    
    Good use of diplomacy Mr Greve.  Would you be willing to solve some
    problems in Middle East?
    ;^)
    
    J.

    As far as I'm concerned, *whoever* mixes the master can tweek any of my
    entries as needed.  We're all big boys - it's not like we're letting a
    7 year old loose on the controls.  I figure, if the "lucky" person
    doing the mixdown does what is best to acheive a good mix and doesn't
    add or remove anything without permission, what else can ya ask for ?
    I'm sure everyone in this conference would have mixed it just a
    *little* different - personal prefference/bad hearing ...  8^)
    
    Let's get this thing DONE !!!  Whoever has a master, plese send me mail
    'cuz I wanna do whatever is necessary to get a copy !  Oh yeah, notify
    me by mail at RAVEN1::JERRYWHITE ... wouldn't wanna junk up the
    conference, would I ?    8^)   <---- everybody see this ?
    
    Scary

    I think it would be a good idea to ask submittor what kind of noise
    reduction before doing anything.  If the piece still sounds like it
    has problems, I would contact the person and suggest things you can
    do to correct it.
    
    In fact, I did exactly this with one Commusic submission.  Someone was
    in a hurry to get the tape to me, and ended up having to do the final
    mix late at night.  In order not to keep his family up he ended up
    mixing on headphones.
    
    Anyway, my main concern was what APPEARED to the "unsolicited reverb"
    thing. 
    
    Peace.
    
    	db

    
    
    	Ok, folks. I hereby volunteer to compile volume II. Let me
    know if you have any submissions. I'd like to get this tape out by
    say, the middle to the end of november, sooner if the submissions
    come in. 
    
    -Tom
    

    I'll be forwarding Tom the submissions for volume II that I've received
    so far within the next week or so.  
    
    Thanks very much to you Tom for volunteering to do this one!  8^)
    
    Greg

    Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...I haven'treceived my tape yet!!!
    
    ;^(

    
    Have really been enjoying the tape.
    
    Should we start a separate "Review" note for our comments?
    What did they usually do in the commusic file.
    
    Bob

    I just created a new note for reviews of the tape, it's 2001.
    
    The liner notes by the submittors can be found in note 1809.  For those
    of you that submitted songs, if you haven't put your liner notes yet,
    please go ahead and do it.
    
    Thanks,
    Greg

Tape what tape???

dbii

    
    
    	Yeeeeehawwww.... Boys, I got em and their free.  I made 6 copies of
    the Noters tape last night in my laboratory...  Send me your mailstop
    and I'll send you a tape.  Like I told youse before, I'm fast but I
    don't have no nakumeeshi tape units, or any quasimodo cd players, I've
    just got my $39 Emerson with the 2 tape decks.
    
    	Some dude sent me mail a long while ago asking for a tape and I
    must have deleted it, if yer out there, send again, Bro.
    
    	Hey, I'm really impressed with some of the playing on that tape,
    shit, there's real musicians here.  I loved everybodies submissions!!! 
    Brian Rost!!!   I can't get "Nothing but Time" out of my head!!!!!  
    Why, indeed, am I buying this shit....  amazing, absolutely amazing!
    
    
    Regards, get yer free tape today!!!
    
    Gree Vee King
    
    BTW, looks like the Greve Masters might be playing a halloween gig!!  I
    think dbii gave em' a little taste and they want some more... heh, heh

                             Southern California?

    
    Thanx to all who offered to lend me their tape...I FINALLY got mine in
    the mail today!!!
    
    B., who can't wait to listen to it tonight!

    
    
    
    	Hoooooo boy, I've been in business one day and I'm down to only 2
    tapes left... hmmm lemme see that was 6 plus 3 for 9.. that means I
    shipped 9 out today, and I know I've got another couple ASO dudes that
    will problee drop by...  Keep them cards and letters comin!!!!
    
    
    	Greee Veee

    
    
    
      re .263
    
      Hey Tom Gallo...
    
    
      What's the address to send submissions to?.
    
    
      
    
    
    
    RichC
    

    And whoever has masters, would ya please send me mail ?  I wanna get a
    copy so I can dub some for the GSO pukes ... and yeah, who's taking
    orders for round #2 ?
    
    Scary

    
    
    	Here's my address:
    
    	Tom Gallo
    	124 Felton St.
    	Lowell, Mass, 01852
    
    -T
    

    
    
    Just back from vacation, so time to check in.
    
    Let's see...sounds like you got the submaster, Steve.  How about you,
    Greg?  I sent the master your way before I left.   
    
    It took the Nashua, NH PO 3 weeks to get Buck's tape to Mass.  I should
    have sent it by pigeon.  Tom D, did your second tape arrive?  If so,
    could you pass it along to some other noter?  'tanks. 
    

    Tom G, I'll put your tape in the mail this week.  I found your $$ mail
    waiting for me.
    
    
    Kevin
    

    Yes, I did get my sub-master.  I'm going to start making copies this
    week.  The first ones I do will be those for those people that sent in
    submissions and wanted their tape copied over.
    
    Greg

    RE: Dave Clark
    
    Submission are Vol II are happening as we speak.  Send em to GH I
    believe.
    
    I didn't wanna clutter up thereview note, so I posted it here!
    B.

    
    
    re: .-1
    
    	Vol II submissions are due to me by the 20th of November. Hopefully
    I'll be able to get it out by early December.
    
    	BTW, I have *no* facilities for any kind of remix. The tapes
    you send will simply be duped onto the master tape for duplication.
    
    	My address is in an earlier reply.
    
    -Tom
    

        Um.  .  .er.  .  .I know I didn't contribute anything to this
        tape, however, what would be the possibility that I could get
        a copy ?   PLEASE  ?!?!?  (I'll even beg and grovel and whine
        and. . . :^))
        
        Matt

    If you are in the Marlboro area, I can make a tape for you.
    You need a 90 minute cassette and work some time with me.
    
    Miguel...
    

    
    
    I'm wondering if it's possible for me to get hold of the guitar
    notes tape1 in the U.K. If anyone in the U.S. is coming over here
    soon and has got a copy of it please can you send me a mail message
    so i can send you my address, etc...
    
    
    
     CR -who-is-dying-to-hear-it-

    DId my contribution which didn't make the first tape, make the second?
    
    I sent some postage as I wanted the original back< is it gonna make it?
    
    dbii

        Miguel, unfortunately,  I'm  in the Burlington area.  Vermont
        that is.  Guess I'll find another route.
       
        Yo G_man !  Can we talk ? :^)
        
        Matt

    re: dbII
    
    Yeah, I sent your tape (along with the other two I had) to Tom last
    week.  I sent him your whole envelope, so the return postage should be
    there.  If it's not for some reason, I'll cover it.
        
    Greg

    Great guys ...I was just checking...
    
    dbii

    
    
    	So far I have recieved submissions from the following people:
    
    	Dave Bottom (2 Tunes)
    	Andrew Leclaire (2 Tunes)
    	Roger Pelletier (2 Tunes)
    	Alan Starr and *me* (3 tunes)
    
    	All in all it's about ~35 or 40 minutes, so we have *plenty* of
    	tape left. 
    
    	I'm also now in the process of deciding how to distribute Vol II. 
    The most uncomplicated way is to do all of the dups myself, but that
    could get very time consuming, but at least if it gets messed up we
    know who is to blame! ;-)
    
    	If anyone has any good ideas on distribution method, please let 
    me know, else I'll plan on doing it all myself.
    
    	Lastly, I need a volunteer to make the label. Mike H., are you 
    listening? :-) 
    
    

>    	Lastly, I need a volunteer to make the label. Mike H., are you 
>    listening? :-) 
    
    No problem!  Just send me the Artist-Song list when it is all set.
    That's the least I can do since I STILL DON'T HAVE MY DECK BACK! #@!$#@
    FOREIGN GEAR!!!
    
    Mike

    
    
    	I've gotten a couple of volunteers to help with the dubbing, 
    so thanks Brian and Coop. 
    
    	Mike, I'll send you the list as soon as it's complete. 
    
    	Now, a question. 
    
    	As you all know I'm asking for Vol 2 submissions to be in my 
    hand my the 20th of this month. Could every one who's planning 
    on sending submissions for this tape please contact me so I
    get an idea of what's coming? 
    	
    	Secondly, should I send out a short tape, if we don't get 90 min
    worth or should I hold out for more tunes.
    
    -T
    

    My opinion is that you should hold out until you can pretty much fill
    either a 60 or 90 minute tape.  You *will* eventually get enough
    material for it.
    
    Greg

    If no one else has anything to submit I can submit another...
    
    dbii

    We'll call it "Dave Bottom and friends"...
    
    8^)

    
    
     I've got a couple more. They'll be mastered to Dat on Nov 3rd.
    They're a little more normal.
    
    
    RichC
    

    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    ~~~~~Doooooods~~~~~~   I still have 5 volume ones here for
    distribution..   
    
    
    

    re: Rich
    
    Don't send in the NORMAL ones!!!  8^)  I LIKED the ones you sent!
    
    (BTW your copy gets mailed tomorrow)
    
    Greg

    
    
    
     RE .-1
    
      What's normal for me isn't necessarily normal for you... 
    But one of the songs has actual electric guitar on it.
    
    
    
    RichC
    

    No !!  Don't send normal stuff Rich !  I like the gerbil stuff...
       

    re: .294.....a little more normal than WHAT???!!!!!
    
     Oh by the way...are you submitting your CURE TRIBUTE
    MEDLEY??????
    -BiLdO

>    	As you all know I'm asking for Vol 2 submissions to be in my 
>    hand my the 20th of this month. 
    
>    	Secondly, should I send out a short tape, if we don't get 90 min
>    worth or should I hold out for more tunes.
    
    Deadlines are for work - not for GUITAR-NOTES tapes.  What's the point?
    
    I think it would be crazy to go through all the duping and maliing
    and such for anything less than a full tape.  
    
    What can I say?  My experience with the COMMUSIC tapes leads me to
    make a strong pitch to keep this thing simple and informal.  No
    suggested "themes" for a particular tape, no deadlines, etc.
    
    YOu just keep piling things up and when you have enough do a release.
    
    BTW, I'm planning on sending you two songs - should be about 8-10 minutes
    worth of stuff.
    
    	db    

    To whom it may concern, I made 2 copies of Volume 1 before I had
    problems with my deck.  One I'm keeping for myself.  I can ship the
    other to whoever wants one.
    
    Mike

    
    
    re: .300
    
    	Dave, the point is that with the Holidays coming up, I
    won't have time to deal with it. I also thought it would be
    nice to have something around Christmas time. Who knows maybe
    someone'll come up with a Holiday song or two..
    
    	The deadline is also to motivate folks to submit.  Vol I
    was delayed, in part, by sluggish initial submissions. After 
    Greg set the deadline, things picked up. I chose to avoid this 
    problem upfront. 
    
    	Since there seems to be somewhat of a consensus (both here
    and via mail), I'll hold off until I get *at least* 60 minutes
    of toons. I'd like 90. I'd *still* like to get them by the
    20th however, since It's a volunteer effort and I'll have the
    time then, but not later. 
    

    Re: "Little Teaser"
    
    hey jc, what are you saying in the vocal break before the guitar solo? 
    I can't quite make it out.
    
    Mike

    Wagagagagagagagaaaa...  This is too funny:  First off, that was drummer
    Steve Whitby, and I beleive he was saying something to the effect of:
    
    (Next unseen here if you thing you'll be offended...thats not it)
    
    "Ohhhh, come on baby, I know you wanna suck it, oh....Ohhhhh,  OHHHHH
    LITTLE TEASER BITCH ! <insert slightly rippin', but three year old
    guit solo>"
    
    BTW - It's hard to hear because as I was singing the track, Whitby was 
    yelling this over my shoulder and I was trying to push him away.  
    Drummers...
    
    My next submission won't have a human drummer, hense the lack of
    profanity.   ;)  Take A Chance !
    
    BTW - I could introduce you  to the girl I wrote this song about if you
    want...

    
    
    
    	Heym, that's the same dude who does my titles!!!!

                        -< C# Lydian...gotta love it! >-
    
    I hope to have something ready for Vol II that fuses the raw power
    of my "Fallen Angel" tune with the compositional qualities found on
    "Rem. of Rio".  I donno with the submission date and all, however.
    Possibly Vol III?
    
    Buck, who says it'll be a bitchin tune (in C# Lydian to boot!)

    Hey Tom?  How are we doing on submissions for Vol II?  Are you going to
    have enough material by next weeks deadline?
    
    Greg

    
    
    	I'm expecting a couple from Coop and db has said he's got
    a few. All in all I suspect it's probably less than one side,
    maybe a little more. 
    
    	Re: Larry V.
    
    	Send 'em along anyway. They'll probably make it onto this
    tape..
    
    

    YO !!!  I can't remember who it was that was gonna send me a copy of
    Vol I, but I ain't got it yet !   8^(    If ya need some $$$ for it,
    lemme know - I'm dying to check it out.
    
    Scary (who's gonna send a couple "live" cuts in for V.2)

    Is there a deadline for volume 2? I had some stuff I wanted to record
    but I'm not sure when I can do it.
    
    Bob

    -1
    
    Technically, November 20th is the "deadline" for Vol II.  I have
    some stuff I'm going to record as well, but I think I'll just submit
    some old JV/PK stuff for now, and do the heavy stuff later.
    
    Buck, physed (tm) to hear more Conroy_rippin!

    
    Well, maybe I can do it this weekend. What I had in mind
    was an arrangement of "Somewhere over the rainbow", a duet
    arrangement of "When Johhny comes marching home", and a piece
    by Leo Brouwer. I'm just learning the Brouwer piece though.
    
    May have to wait for vol 3.
    
    Bob (who BTW really appreciates the compliments here!)

    
    
    	The deadline is dead!! :-)
    
    	I'll wait until I get enough to fill a C-90 and then distribute
    the tape.
    
    -Tom
    

    
    
    .311
    
    
    	Yo, Scary, I'll send you a free one, if you send me your mailstop!

    
    	Greeveee, me and Scary_mon live at GSO/E5.
    
    	-bluesbros

    
    
    
    	Well, yeah, but I sent Scary the MASTER a few weeks back.  He got
    it, right??   If not let me know and I'll send you copies.. tude sweet!
    
    
    
    Greee Veeee

    Nope - never got it !    ?
    
    It may be lost in the shuffle - it'll probably come the day after I get
    the package ... wagagagaga .... hey, that ain't funny !
    
    Scary 

    
    
    
    	OK, so I'll send youse guys a brandy new tape each... It's on the
    way.

    
    
    	Ok, folks, with the addition of Coop's submissions and the
    3 tunes by Alan and myself, we have completed one whole side
    of GN Vol II (45 minutes). 
    
    	Keep those cards 'n letters coming..
    
    

    
    
    
    	Yo, I'm all out of Volume One copies, dudes.  I'd be happy to make
    more, but I sent the master to GSO...  I thought I sent it to coop, but
    he hasn't got it...  any you GSO dudes receive the master yet??
    
    
    Steve

    Master master, who's got the master...
    
    Greg ?  You got the Master ?
    

    Yes, I have a copy of the master.  I sent the real master to Mike long
    ago, who sent it to Kevin, who sent it to Steve (and sent a copy back
    to me).  I think Mike has a copy of the master too.
    
    Greg

    
    
      Geez..What did I get?. A ninth generation tape?.
    
         It sounds like one...no high end and a wall o' mud.  8^)
                                                           
    
    
    RichC

    Well, if ya sent it to Coop at GSO .... Lord only knows where it is,
    since Coop ain't at GSO anymore ...  8^(
    
    Scary (lookin' ...)

    
    There's a good chance that if you sent the master via inter-office
    mail, someone in the mail room confiscated it.  It's probably got
    top-40 dance music on it now. 
    
    Tell me it ain't so......
    
    Kevin
    

    
    
    
    
    
    	Kevin, there you are, who did you tell em to send it to in your
    note??

    
    
    Steve, like I said in mail, I sent *THE MASTER* to you!  I don't have a
    clue who should get it after you, but I'm sure someone will be looking
    for it.
    
    
    Kevin
    

    Just a reiteration here folks...
    
    Tapes should NOT be sent through Interoffice Mail!!!
    
    
    SET MODE/MODERATOR
    
    - This is a violation of DEC P&P, and as Modertator I feel I should
      warn you of this.
    
    SET MODE/NOTER
    
    - People in the company who have had tapes of mine have *tried* to
      return then to me viz Interoffice Mail (their choice, not mine) to
      which I NEVER received them!!!  This is from someone whos lost several
      tapes due to the laziness of others!

    FWIW US Mail is also *consistantly* faster then internal mail and the
    tapes seem to arrive in better condition.  
    
    Greg (who'll never send tapes using internal mail, but has received a
    couple this way)

    
    
    
    	Yo, quelle nana, if yer referring to my laziness, we better talk,
    boy!  If yer referring to the laziness of our mailroom folks, I don't
    understand.  I've found inter to be pretty reliable so far... up until
    this "lost master" case and my gut (significant) tells me that it has
    to do with coop moving at the same time I was sending him mail.
    
    Steve

>    	Yo, quelle nana, if yer referring to my laziness, we better talk,
>    boy!  If yer referring to the laziness of our mailroom folks, I don't
>    understand. 
    
    He's not talking about you...
    
    My experience is that it takes about a week to get a letter/package
    from someone in the New England area to me here in Colorado.  I've
    never gotten *anything* in DEC internal mail that took less then three
    weeks.  Both of the two tapes I've gotten internal mail have had the
    cases cracked on them and I know of at least three people that have
    sent tapes via internal mail that never arrived. 
    
    I realize that this is limited experience, but it's enough to make me
    question the reliability of this transport.  
    
    Besides that, it's against the corporate guidelines to send personal
    material through internal mail.
    
    Greg

    
    
    
    	Whaoooo... thanks for the education, Greg, heck, I had no idea
    things were that bad.  I'll wrap em' in plastic or use US in the
    future... luckily so far, all the tapes I've mailed have been
    incidental to other serious business that I had to transact with the
    person, and have arrived OK, except of course, for the mysterious
    "master" incident...  (it was a dark and stormy night....);^)

    Yo, Gree Vee King...
    
    I wasn't explicitly referring to you re: my "lazyness" statement.
    It was a general statement, which sticks.  Sure, it's easy enuff
    to grab one of those creme interoffice folders off your shelf,
    stick stuff in there, sign it and away it goes, but like I posted,
    it's against the rules, and I as mod won't condone that behavior here
    in notes!  Besides, the "lazyness" statement still sticks...so it
    takes a bit more effort to send something US mail...so what, too bad.

    I'd like to suggest that we don't send masters through mail at all and
    that we try to limit how much travelling it does.
    
    Some of the COMMUSIC masters have been lost this way as well (not mine
    because the tapes never left my house once they were finished).

    
    
    
    	Heh, heh, yer tickin' me off Buck, but I hear your point!  If I
    were really lazy, I wouldn't have bothered in the first place.  NO!!  I
    wouldn't have even bothered to distribute FREEEE TAPES to ALL MY PALS
    IN GUITAR....  I WOULD HAVE JUST SAAAAAAAAAAAT AROUND DOING NOTHING..
    (pant, pant)...
    
    	Lemme see what would I have called it instead... ummmmm.. no, not
    laaaaaazy, Steve, ummmm, picking an unacceptable distribution
    alternative, would sound good... yeah, that's it!
    
    	I get the "business only" message Buck, and I respect it, but the
    lazy shit still don't work for me.  OOPs.. time for my nap, gotta go!
    <yawn>

    I think your reaching Gree Vee, but I don't wanna rathole the issue.
    lazy :== using interoffice mail over US, and that's all.  Anything
    above and beyond that definition that you wanna append to it is your
    biz!
    
    nuff said

I haven't been following this conference closely lately.  Is it still possible 
to get a copy of the tape?  How?

Bob

    
    
    
    	I would but I'm too lazy...  [;^)

    
    
    I've recieved a submission from Dave Clark, which brings us
    up to about 55 minutes. I'd like to wrap this up no later
    than then end of the month, since I start a new job in 
    the middle of january and won't have much time to deal
    with GN Vol II. 
    
    

    Sounds like you could release a 60 minute version without much trouble
    if you needed to.  I'd like to hear 90, but 60 would do in a pinch.
    
    Greg (not likely to get anything on this one)

    
    
    	re: .-1 60 minute tape
    
    	Problem is, I have two brand new unopened boxes of C-90 
    tapes...
    
    -T
    

    Guess we better get our butts in gear then, huh?
    
    Greg

    
    
    	I'm going to shoot for a C90. Dave Blickstein has comitted to
    a submission of a coupla tunes, so that will bring us over the
    60 minute mark. 
    
    	FWIW, does it *have* to be DEC folks only? The reason I ask
    is that the *other* guitar player in my band (*not* Alan) has 
    some originals he might like to submit. FWIW, I haven't mentioned
    it to him..
    
    -T
    

    FWIW, I also have two submissions coming.
    
    RE: Who submits.  I think it should be DEC people...I mean, the novelty
    of this tape (for me) is hearing the voice behind the  notes I read.  I
    mean, this dude (non-deccie) may be a fabulous player with great tunes,
    but I don't know him from a hole in the wall, so I probably would be
    less interested in the submission.
    
    FWIW...
    B

    I agree with Buck. I'm interested in hearing what some of YOU
    sound like. 
    
    - Dave

    
    
    re: .-1 & .-2
    
    	I agree, actually. It was only suggested since we're running 
    light on submissions. 
    
    -T
    

    
    
    	Ok, folks. In order to wrap this up, I'd like to have all
    submissions to me no later than January 11. This will give me
    time to finish up the master and start duplicating. 
    
    	If possible, could folks who want a copy of Vol II,
    please send me mail, so I can get a rough count of how
    many tapes/padded bags will be needed. This will help 
    me figure out what the cost per tape will be. Right now
    it'll be around $3 including postage. It could be less, 
    could be a little more. 
    
    	Those who want their original submissions returned, let
    me know. If you want me to tape over your submission tape
    with a copy of the finished master, also let me know. 
    
    Brian R.-> I'll let you know if I need help making tapes. It'll
    depend on the demand. 
    
    I *have* to get this done and distributed by the end of January. 
    Let's get those submissions in..
    
    -T 
                                          

    Tom, FWIW, I would also vote to limit the submissions on the tape to
    only Deccies.  As Buck stated, my interest in the tape is to hear what
    the people I talk to sound like.  

    This is especially interesting to me, since most of you don't live in
    close proximity to me and the chances I'd ever get to go see you play,
    even if you gig a lot, are very slim.

    Greg

    
    
       Deccies only. Oy!.
    
    
    
    RichC
    

    Yeah, I mean the purpose of this tape isn't to give exposure to bands
    we don't know about.  It's to be able to associate music with
    noters.
    
    Proof by induction:  imagine that the tape had NO Deccies on it.  Do
    you really think any of us would be interested in buying a tape with
    just random music on it (i.e. no one we know, nor have heard before).

    
    
    re: non DECcies on the tape
    
    	Alright already! Forget I asked!!!! :-)
    
    -T
    

    
    >Do
    >ou really think any of us would be interested in buying a tape with
    >ust random music on it (i.e. no one we know, nor have heard before)?
    
    
    	I've done that many times ... heck, I've spent $13 on a CD that
    	I knew nothing about.
    
    							GTI
    

    >        I've done that many times ... heck, I've spent $13 on a CD that
    >        I knew nothing about.
    
    As there are probably thousands of CD's you know nothing about,
    what motivated you to buy this particular one?

    
    	I'll give you an example:
    
    	I bought "Shrapnel's Fretboard Frenzy", a collection of the
    	best of Shrapnel Records' guitar players all contributing a
    	song or 2.
    
    	I bought it because I like guitar work.
    
    							GTI
    

>    	I bought it because I like guitar work.
    
    There are at least a dozen other guitar collections (IRS, GFTPM, Guitar
    Rock, etc.).  Why did you choose this one instead of the others?

    
    	Because that was the only f****** one there at the time.
    
    	[Yeah, I know what you're getting at ... but I'll fight you
    	all the way all the way and still not sway from the truth.
    	8^)]
    
    							GTI
    

    
    
    	I'm baaaaccccck! :-)
    
    
    	Here's the latest. I've recieved a three tune submission from
    Paul Cummings, which brings us up to about 70 minutes or so. I'd
    say that one or two more multi-song submissions would just about
    do it. 
    
    	Remember the deadline is the 11th. 
    
    -T
    

    
    
    I recieved a submission from Dave Russo on friday, which brings
    us up to ~80 minutes. Alan Starr has one song (~5minutes) which
    will still leave 5 minutes left to go. Anyone have one tune they
    could submit? 
    
    It's probably safe to start placing orders. I'll look into
    shipping/tape costs this week and post the final amount. 
    
    -T
    

    
    
    This is in the way of a general annoucement, so noone is surprised
    when they recieve their copy of GN Vol II.
    
    I took the liberty of arranging the order of the songs so that there
    is some small degree of flow to the songs. What this means is that
    instead of just being little groups of songs by each artist, I've 
    tried to mix up the submissions so that you don't have a bunch of
    slow stuff or fast stuff (or jazz or acoustic...) all stuck together.
    
    IMHO, it makes for a much more interesting tape. 
    
    As always the actual songs have not been EQ'd/remixed or altered
    in any way. 
    
    
    Item the second:
    
    The tape is just about finished, I'm waiting on a submission from 
    Alan Starr (Let's go dude!) to finish it up.
    
    

    
    
    Here's the final track listing for Vol II. Could someone (Mike H.?)
    make up a postscript cassette label, like the one for Volume I?
    
    
    Side A.
    
    Public Service Message - Jeff Cooper
    Don't Forget To Shut the Door - Dave Bottom
    Sarah Lovely - Alan Starr and Tom Gallo
    Hippie's Tune - Dave Russo
    Bad Dog - Andy Leclaire and Pete Cook
    Just For Kicks - Paul Cummings
    Roumanian Boogie - Dave Clark and Dave Russo
    Born To Run - RJ Pelletier
    Somewhere Over The Rainbow - Bob Conroy
    The Lost Episode - Dave Russo
    
    
    Side B
    
    Take A Chance - Jeff Cooper
    Mr. Gone - Paul Cummings
    Wait For You - Alan Starr and Tom Gallo
    Sor Etude in C Major - Andrew Leclaire
    It's OK - 3 Many Daves (Dave Clark & Dave Russo)
    Is This Love - RJ Pelletier
    Midi Rack Puke Rap - CJ & Jeff Cooper 
    When Johnny Comes Marching Home - Bob Conroy
    Unknown Idiots - Paul Cummings
    Tori, Sweet Tori - Tom Gallo & Alan Starr
    While My Guitar Gently Weeps - Alan Starr
    Breakdown and Cry - Dave Bottom
    
              

    
    	correction - 
    
    	The song "The Lost Episode" should be "The Lost Porpoise"
    
    	Thanks,
    
    	Dave Russo

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	 /DEC$EDMS_POSITION_REGMARKS where
	  { pop DEC$EDMS_POSITION_REGMARKS -50 mul add } if
	  PaperHeight 2 div translate AlignMark
      grestore
      gsave							% Bottom Center
        PaperWidth 2 div 0
	 /DEC$EDMS_POSITION_REGMARKS where
	  { pop DEC$EDMS_POSITION_REGMARKS 50 mul add } if
	 translate AlignMark
      grestore
      gsave							% Left Center
        0
	 /DEC$EDMS_POSITION_REGMARKS where
	  { pop DEC$EDMS_POSITION_REGMARKS 50 mul add } if
	 PaperHeight 2 div translate AlignMark
      grestore
      } ifelse
   } if
 } if
 showpage
} def
/CLRP {erasepage} def
%
/DMF {		%  /font-name <point-size(pix)> DMF
  /psz exch def  /nam exch def  nam findfont psz scalefont setfont
} def
%
/concatnam {	%  /abcd (xxx) concatnam  ==> /abcdxxx
  /xxx exch def  /nam exch def
  /namstr nam cvsstr cvs def
  /newnam namstr length xxx length add string def
  newnam 0 namstr putinterval
  newnam namstr length xxx putinterval
  newnam cvn 
} def
%
/strip {	%  /abcdef 2 strip ==> /cdef
  /num exch def  /nam exch def
  /namstr nam cvsstr cvs def
  /newlen namstr length num sub def
  namstr num newlen getinterval  cvn
} def
%		ROUTINES TO HANDLE PACKING/UNPACKING NUMBERS
/PackHW {	% <target> <pos> <num> PackHW --> <new target>
  /num exch def  /pos exch def  /target exch def
  num 16#0000FFFF and 1 pos sub 16 mul bitshift  target or
} def
/PackByte {	% <target> <pos> <num> PackByte --> <new target>
  /num exch def  /pos exch def  /target exch def
  num 16#000000FF and 3 pos sub 8 mul bitshift   target or
} def
/UnpkHW {	%  <pos> <num> UnpkHW --> <unpacked value>
  /num exch def  /pos exch def
  num 1 pos sub -16 mul bitshift 16#0000FFFF and
  dup 16#00007FFF gt {16#00010000 sub} if
} def
/UnpkByte {	%  <pos> <num> UnpkByte --> <unpacked value>
  /num exch def  /pos exch def
  num 3 pos sub -8 mul bitshift 16#000000FF and
  dup 16#0000007F gt {16#00000100 sub} if
} def
%
/DPSF {		% /procname size /fontname DPSF
    findfont exch scalefont
    [ exch /setfont cvx ] cvx def
} bind def
%
/PXLBuildCharDict 17 dict def
/CMEncodingArray 256 array def
0 1 255 {CMEncodingArray exch dup cvsstr cvs cvn put} for
/RasterConvert {RasterScaleFactor div} def
/TransformBBox {
  aload pop
  /BB-ury exch def  /BB-urx exch def  /BB-lly exch def  /BB-llx exch def
  [ BB-llx RasterConvert BB-lly RasterConvert 
    BB-urx RasterConvert BB-ury RasterConvert ]
} def
/RunLengthToRasters {
  % none yet
} def
/GenerateRasters {			% GENERATE RASTERS FOR "IMAGEMASK"
  rasters  runlength 1 eq {RunLengthToRasters} if
} def
%
/int-dict-name {int (-dict) concatnam} def
/int-dict {int (-dict) concatnam cvx load} def
%
/DefinePXLFont {
	%  <int-font-name><ext-font-name><pt-sz(pix)><PXL mag><num-chars>...
	%  ...[llx lly urx ury]<newfont-fg>DefinePXLFont
  /newfont exch def  /bb exch def      /num exch def  /psz exch def
  /dsz exch def      /pxlmag exch def  /ext exch def  /int exch def
  /fnam ext (-) concatnam pxlmag cvsstr cvs concatnam def
  newfont not {
    int-dict-name 13 dict def
    int-dict begin
      /FontType 3 def  /FontMatrix [ 1 dsz div 0 0 1 dsz div 0 0 ] def
      /FontBBox bb TransformBBox def  /Encoding CMEncodingArray def
      /CharDict 1 dict def  CharDict begin  /Char-Info num array def  end
      /BuildChar {
        PXLBuildCharDict begin
          /char exch def  /fontdict exch def
          fontdict /CharDict get /Char-Info get char get aload pop
          /rasters exch def  /PackedWord1 exch def
          0 PackedWord1 UnpkHW 16#7FFF ne {
	    /PackedWord2 exch def  /wx 0 PackedWord1 UnpkHW def
            /rows 2 PackedWord1 UnpkByte def  /cols 3 PackedWord1 UnpkByte def
            /llx 0 PackedWord2 UnpkByte def   /lly 1 PackedWord2 UnpkByte def
            /urx 2 PackedWord2 UnpkByte def   /ury 3 PackedWord2 UnpkByte def
	  }{ %else
	    /PackedWord2 exch def  /PackedWord3 exch def  /PackedWord4 exch def
            /wx 1 PackedWord1 UnpkHW def    /rows 0 PackedWord2 UnpkHW def
            /cols 1 PackedWord2 UnpkHW def  /llx 0 PackedWord3 UnpkHW def
            /lly 1 PackedWord3 UnpkHW def   /urx 0 PackedWord4 UnpkHW def
            /ury 1 PackedWord4 UnpkHW def
          } ifelse
          rows 0 lt {
	    /rows rows neg def /runlength 1 def
	  }{ %else
	    /runlength 0 def
	  } ifelse
          wx 0
          llx RasterConvert lly RasterConvert 
          urx RasterConvert ury RasterConvert setcachedevice
          rows 0 ne {
	    gsave
	      cols rows true  RasterScaleFactor 
              0 0 RasterScaleFactor neg llx .5 add neg ury .5 add 
              tempmatrix astore  GenerateRasters imagemask
            grestore
          } if
        end
      } def
    end
    fnam int-dict definefont pop 
  } if 
  int-dict-name fnam findfont psz scalefont def
  currentdict int [ int-dict /setfont cvx ] cvx put
} def 
/PXLF { true  DefinePXLFont} def	% SIGNAL THAT FONT IS ALREADY LOADED
/PXLNF {false  DefinePXLFont} def	% SIGNAL THAT FONT IS NOT ALREADY LOADED
%
/PXLC {	% <int-font-name><code><wx><llx><lly><urx><ury>...
	% ...<rows><cols><runlength><rasters>PXLC
  /rasters exch def  /runlength exch def  /cols exch def  /rows exch def
  /ury exch def      /urx exch def        /lly exch def   /llx exch def
  /wx exch def       /code exch def       /int exch def
  % SEE IF LONG OR SHORT FORMAT IS REQUIRED
  true cols CKSZ rows CKSZ ury CKSZ urx CKSZ lly CKSZ llx CKSZ 
  TackRunLengthToRows {
    int-dict /CharDict get /Char-Info get code 
    [ 0 0 llx PackByte 1 lly PackByte 2 urx PackByte 3 ury PackByte
      0 0 wx PackHW 2 rows PackByte 3 cols PackByte rasters ] put
  }{ %else
    int-dict /CharDict get /Char-Info get code 
    [ 0 0 urx PackHW 1 ury PackHW   0 0 llx PackHW 1 lly PackHW
      0 0 rows PackHW 1 cols PackHW 0 0 16#7FFF PackHW 1 wx PackHW rasters ] put
  } ifelse
} def
%
/CKSZ {abs 127 le and} def
/TackRunLengthToRows {runlength 0 ne {/rows rows neg def} if} def
%
/PLOTC {
  % <wx><dsz><psz><llx><lly><urx><ury><rows><cols><runlength><rasters>PLOTC
  /rasters exch def  /runlength exch def  /cols exch def  /rows exch def
  /ury exch def      /urx exch def        /lly exch def   /llx exch def
  /psz exch def      /dsz exch def        /wx exch def
  % "PLOT" A CHARACTER'S RASTER PATTERN
  rows 0 ne {
    gsave
      currentpoint translate  psz dsz div dup scale
      cols rows true  RasterScaleFactor 0 0 RasterScaleFactor 
      neg llx .5 add neg ury .5 add  tempmatrix astore
      GenerateRasters imagemask
    grestore
  } if
  wx x
} def
%
/AlignMark
%
% This procedure draws an alignment mark centered on the coordinate system
% origin. If the variable DEC$EDMS_SEPARATE_COLORS = 0 then a "positive"
% alignment mark is drawn. If DEC$EDMS_SEPARATE_COLORS <> 0 then a "negative"
% alignment mark is drawn. 
%
% Formal Arguments: NONE
%
% Referenced Variables: DEC$EDMS_SEPARATE_COLORS
%
% Referenced Procedures: NONE
%
% Side Effects: NONE
%
{ DEC$EDMS_SEPARATE_COLORS 0 eq
  { 0 0 300 0 360 arc
    0 -450 moveto 0 450 lineto -450 0 moveto 450 0 lineto stroke }
  { 0 0 450 0 360 arc fill 1 setgray 0 0 300 0 360 arc 
    0 -450 moveto 0 450 lineto -450 0 moveto 450 0 lineto stroke 0 setgray }
  ifelse
} bind def
/SC
% If not making film, the following procedure sets the current color using the
% RGB color model. If making film, the procedure notes the "color pass" and,
% if the specified color index matches the color pass, subsequent marks are
% written in black. If the specified color index does not match the color pass,
% marks are written in white. Use of colors on individual pages is also tracked
% to allow pages that don't use a particular color to be suppressed on that
% color pass (by the code in the /PP routine).
%
% Formal Arguments: color index (on stack)
%
% Referenced Variables: Colorsused
%			DEC$EDMS_SEPARATE_COLORS
%			DEC$EDMS_SUPPRESS_COLOR
%
% Referenced Procedures: NONE
%
% Side Effects: Modifies the variable Colorsused to record use of the color.
%
{ /DEC$EDMS_SUPPRESS_COLOR where		% if suppressing color
  { pop 0 setgray pop }				% .then set "color" to Black 
  { /DEC$EDMS_SEPARATE_COLORS where		% .else if separating colors
    { pop dup DEC$EDMS_SEPARATE_COLORS eq	% ..and if on this color pass
      { 0 setgray /Colorsused Colorsused	% ...then write black (do write)
        2 3 index exp cvi or def }		% ...and note use of the "color"
      { 1 setgray } ifelse pop }		% ...else write white (don't write)
    { DEC$EDMS_Colorarray exch get aload			% ..else get the PMS color value
      pop setrgbcolor } ifelse			% ..approximations and set them
  } ifelse
} def
end  %DEC_DVC$dict
%%EndProlog
%%BeginSetup
BeginDVC$PSDoc
CLRP 300 3600 RES
% DefineFont:F171 Category:15 PointSize:14
% DownloadPSFont
%!PS-Adobe-2.0
%%Title: PostScript Digital Logo Font, v1.1
%%Creator: Ned Batchelder
%%CreationDate: 9-Nov-87
%%DocumentFonts: Symbol
%%DocumentSuppliedFonts: DigitalLogo
%%EndComments
%
%		    DIGITAL INTERNAL USE ONLY
% 
% INTRODUCTION:
% This rendition of the Digital logo was prepared by Ned Batchelder using 
% Adobe Illustrator and hand manipulation of the resulting PostScript code.
% Photographic masters of the logo were obtained from David Comberg in the
% Graphic Design Group. Additional consultation was provided by Elliot
% Hendrickson, one of the original designers of the logo.
% 
% USE:
% This file defines a new PostScript font, called /DigitalLogo. It consists
% of three characters. (d) is the entire Digital logo, (t) is a small
% trademark symbol, and (T) is a large trademark symbol. The font is designed
% so that the argument to scalefont is the height of the logo. There is no
% extra white space around the logo at all. The trademarks are designed to be
% shown right after the logo, and they align themselves. The only correct
% strings to show with this font are (d), (dt), and (dT). There is an entry
% (named GapWidth) in the font dictionary which gives the unscaled width of
% the gap between the blocks. This distance is given because it is used as a
% unit to determine how much space to leave around the logo.
% 
% HISTORY:
% The logo was designed in 1957 by Elliot Hendrickson, who was then working
% as an independent designer. He was contracted by DEC to do a brochure, and
% DEC wanted a logo to accompany it. The logo up to then had been the letters
% DEC in blocks the shape of the plug-in cards that DEC had been producing.
% Elliot re-worked the logo, incorporating letters which were hand-drawn for 
% the purpose by Arthur Hover(?). The logo has been maintained since then in 
% conventional technology, ie, film masters. There was at least one reworking 
% of the logo at some point.
% 
% The masters I received had a number of interesting features. The boxes were
% not all the same width, and there seemed to be no logic to which boxes were
% wider. The 'g' was the narrowest, and the 'i' and 'l' were second widest.
% Also, the two 'i's were not exactly the same shape. On ten-inch masters,
% (one box to an 8�x11 sheet), the boxes were not rectangles, but were very
% slightly tapered in wierd ways. I assume that the tapering is the result of
% too many reproductions, but the difference in widths may have been
% deliberate at some time. Elliot reports that when he drew it, all boxes
% were the same width. I have retained the different widths in my version,
% since the experts I had at hand did not seem to think I should make them
% uniform.
% 
% Please feel free to use this logo, but keep in mind the following:
% 
% 1. This code is for INTERNAL USE ONLY.
% 2. I am not entirely happy with the final shapes of the letters, and am
% hoping to improve them. Please allow for future updates to this code.
% 3. Only use this logo within the guidelines of the Corporate Identity
% program. If you use this font precisely as is, you can't get in much
% trouble. Don't take the shapes and do strange things with them. 
% In particular, the Identity states that the logo is a one-color logo: The
% letters are actually holes in the blocks, through which the background can
% be seen. Do not modify this code so that the letters are always white.
% 
% Edit history:
% 
% 21-Sep-87 nmb	    Created as a standalone file with demo.
%  6-Nov-87 nmb	    Converted to font form.
%  9-Nov-87 nmb	    Removed // uses for compatibility with LW Classics
%
%%BeginFont: DigitalLogo
10 dict begin
/FontInfo 3 dict def
FontInfo begin
    /Notice
(The Digital logo is a registered trademark of Digital Equipment Corporation.)
    def
    /FullName (Digital logo) def
    /version (1.1) def
    end
/FontType 3 def				% This is a user-defined font
/FontMatrix matrix def			% Use an identity transform
/FontBBox [ 0 0 3.383 1 ] def		% Logo itself is biggest
/GapWidth .070 def			% The width of the gap between boxes
/Encoding 256 array def
0 1 255 { Encoding exch /.notdef put } bind for
Encoding
dup (d) 0 get /DEC-logo put		% (d) gives logo
dup (t) 0 get /smalltrademark put	% (t) gives small trademark
    (T) 0 get /largetrademark put	% (T) gives large trademark
/Work 15 dict def			% for doing work in font.
/BuildChar {
    exch begin				% Use the font dictionary
	Work begin
	    Encoding exch get		% Look up the character name
	    load			% Pull out the procedure
	    exec			% Run it.
	    end				% Work
	end				% fontdict
    } bind def
Work begin
/.notdef {} def
%
% - `DEC-logo' -
%
% Images a DEC logo with the lower left corner at the current origin, with a
% height of one unit, in the current color.
% 
/m /moveto load def
/l /lineto load def
/c /curveto load def
/DEC-logo {
    3.383 0 0 0 3.383 1 setcachedevice
    {	% D
	% d counter
	.2930 .3513 m
	.2932 .3217 .2587 .2758 .2167 .2757 c
	.1719 .2759 .1280 .3165 .1280 .3977 c
	.1280 .4801 .1718 .5225 .2153 .5227 c
	.2587 .5225 .2932 .4760 .2930 .4407 c
	closepath
	% d outside
	.2953 .5787 m
	.2953 .7600 l
	.3843 .7600 l
	.3843 .1960 l
	.2923 .1960 l
	.2923 .2220 l
	.2848 .2144 .2531 .1813 .1990 .1813 c
	.1426 .1812 .0417 .2282 .0417 .3977 c
	.0417 .5414 .1171 .6157 .2067 .6157 c
	.2399 .6157 .2725 .6039 .2953 .5787 c
	closepath
	% d box
	.432 0.0 m
	.432 1.0 l
	.000 1.0 l
	.000 0.0 l
	closepath
	} exec
    {	% I
	% i box
	.927 0.0 m
	.927 1.0 l
	.502 1.0 l
	.502 0.0 l
	closepath
	% i body
	.6695 .196 m
	.6695 .600 l
	.7595 .600 l
	.7595 .196 l
	closepath
	% i dot
	.6695 .655 m
	.6695 .755 l
	.7595 .755 l
	.7595 .655 l
	closepath
	} exec
    {	% G
	% g counter
	1.2813 .4478 m
	1.2813 .4837 1.2409 .5208 1.2035 .5208 c
	1.1713 .5208 1.1215 .5003 1.1215 .4084 c
	1.1215 .3105 1.1827 .2962 1.2030 .2962 c
	1.2433 .2962 1.2813 .3239 1.2813 .3667 c
	closepath
	% g box
	0.997 1.0 m
	1.415 1.0 l
	1.415 0.0 l
	0.997 0.0 l
	closepath
	% g outside
	1.2822 .5609 m
	1.2729 .5742 1.2424 .6044 1.1988 .6044 c
	1.1311 .6043 1.0367 .5652 1.0367 .3955 c
	1.0368 .2617 1.1437 .2168 1.1876 .2168 c
	1.2350 .2167 1.2702 .2443 1.2798 .2547 c
	1.2798 .2126 l
	1.2798 .1815 1.2479 .1511 1.1945 .1511 c
	1.1485 .1512 1.1437 .1807 1.1437 .1953 c
	1.0497 .1953 l
	1.0497 .1486 1.0798 .0804 1.1888 .0803 c
	1.2864 .0803 1.3186 .1176 1.3325 .1316 c
	1.3442 .1434 1.3617 .1758 1.3617 .2017 c
	1.3617 .6 l
	1.2823 .6 l
	closepath
	} exec
    {	% I
	% i box
	1.910 0.0 m
	1.910 1.0 l
	1.485 1.0 l
	1.485 0.0 l
	closepath
	% i body
	1.6525 .196 m
	1.6525 .6 l
	1.7425 .6 l
	1.7425 .196 l
	closepath
	% i dot
	1.6525 .655 m
	1.6525 .755 l
	1.7425 .755 l
	1.7425 .655 l
	closepath
	} exec
    {	% T
	% t
	2.2128 .7525 m
	2.1305 .7525 l
	2.1305 .6071 l
	2.0874 .6071 l
	2.0874 .5396 l
	2.1305 .5396 l
	2.1305 .2852 l
	2.1305 .2367 2.1554 .1986 2.2248 .1987 c
	2.2573 .1987 2.2560 .1985 2.2842 .2034 c
	2.2842 .2874 l
	2.2658 .2842 2.2601 .2829 2.2511 .2832 c
	2.2338 .2837 2.2128 .2898 2.2128 .3206 c
	2.2128 .5395 l
	2.2780 .5395 l
	2.2780 .6071 l
	2.2128 .6071 l
	closepath
	% t box
	2.404 0.0 m
	1.980 0.0 l
	1.980 1.0 l
	2.404 1.0 l
	closepath
	} exec
    {	% A
	% a box
	2.474 0.0 m
	2.474 1.0 l
	2.888 1.0 l
	2.888 0.0 l
	closepath
	% a outside
	2.5439 .4728 m
	2.6210 .4728 l
	2.6210 .5138 2.6422 .5353 2.6826 .5353 c
	2.7470 .5354 2.7449 .5067 2.7448 .4708 c
	2.7050 .4553 2.7087 .4557 2.6480 .4419 c
	2.5709 .4241 2.5237 .3911 2.5236 .3112 c
	2.5237 .2331 2.5793 .1914 2.6420 .1915 c
	2.7048 .1914 2.7178 .2117 2.7438 .2290 c
	2.7438 .1978 l
	2.8422 .1978 l
	2.8190 .2352 2.8251 .2425 2.8249 .2706 c
	2.8250 .2926 2.8249 .5080 2.8249 .5080 c
	2.8250 .5507 2.8028 .5768 2.7883 .5855 c
	2.7521 .6071 2.7074 .6097 2.6826 .6098 c
	2.5945 .6096 2.5438 .5653 2.5439 .4728 c
	closepath
	% a counter
	2.7448 .3946 m
	2.7448 .3401 l
	2.7448 .3152 2.7145 .2670 2.6550 .2669 c
	2.6260 .2668 2.6098 .2883 2.6097 .3162 c
	2.6098 .3442 2.6335 .3657 2.6536 .3697 c
	2.6745 .3739 2.7226 .3862 2.7448 .3946 c
	closepath
	} exec
    {	% L
	% l box
	3.383 0.0 m
	3.383 1.0 l
	2.958 1.0 l
	2.958 0.0 l
	closepath
	% l
	3.1255 .196 m
	3.1255 .765 l
	3.2155 .765 l
	3.2155 .196 l
	closepath
	} exec
    fill
    } bind def
%
% % pct `trademark' --
%
% Borrow the sans-serif trademark symbol from /Symbol. AFM file says:
%	C 228 ; WX 786 ; N trademarksans ; B 5 293 725 673 ;
% We scale it down to pct percent of the height of the logo and superscript 
% it some, and voila!
%
/trademark {
    /s exch .380 div def
    /w s .725 mul .070 add def
    /u 1 .673 s mul sub def
    w 0 0 u w 1 setcachedevice
    /Symbol findfont s scalefont setfont
    .070 u m					% Superscript it
    (\344) show
    } bind def
% 
% These are two different trademarks (just different sizes).
%
/smalltrademark { .15 trademark } def
/largetrademark { .25 trademark } def
end						% Work dictionary
currentdict					% Get the font dict
end						% Close it up
/DigitalLogo exch definefont pop		% Define the font.
%%EndFont
% EndDownloadPSFont
/F171 700.0 /DigitalLogo DPSF
% DefineFont:F159 Category:10 PointSize:8
/NewCenturySchlbk-Roman /NewCenturySchlbk-Roman@DOCPSE DOCPSE ReENCODE
/F159 400.0 /NewCenturySchlbk-Roman@DOCPSE DPSF
% DefineFont:F152 Category:10 PointSize:10
/NewCenturySchlbk-Italic /NewCenturySchlbk-Italic@DOCPSE DOCPSE ReENCODE
/F152 500.0 /NewCenturySchlbk-Italic@DOCPSE DPSF
/F121 /amsy8 1500 399 400.0 128 [0 -33 31 25] PXLNF
% DefineFont:F40 Category:10 PointSize:9
/Helvetica-Bold /Helvetica-Bold@DOCPSE DOCPSE ReENCODE
/F40 450.0 /Helvetica-Bold@DOCPSE DPSF
% DefineFont:F32 Category:10 PointSize:11
/F32 550.0 /Helvetica-Bold@DOCPSE DPSF
/DEC$EDMS_SUPPRESS_COLOR true def
/DEC$EDMS_ColorCount 4 def
/DEC$EDMS_Colornames {
  (Color-1) (Color-2) (Color-3) (Color-4)
  DEC$EDMS_ColorCount array astore } def
/DEC$EDMS_Colorarray {
  0 0 0 1 4 array astore  %color 0 CMYK array
  0 0 0 1 4 array astore  %color 1 CMYK array
  0 0 0 1 4 array astore  %color 2 CMYK array
  0 0 0 1 4 array astore  %color 3 CMYK array
  DEC$EDMS_ColorCount array astore } def
/DVC$PSFonts save def
%%EndSetup
%
%%Page: 1 1
%%BeginPageSetup
%%EndPageSetup
%%PageCustomColors: (atend)
%%BeginCustomColor: 0
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3620 Y 5593 X 14748 24 R 19636 Y 5593 X 24 16020 R 4946 Y 562 x F159
(Noise)S 133 x(Reduction:)S 177 x(Dolby)S
XP /F121 13 423 2 -6 31 22 29 32 0
<001FE000 00FFFC00 03F03F00 07800780 0E0001C0 1C0000E0 38000070
 30000030 70000038 60000018 E000001C C000000C C000000C C000000C
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PXLC RP
10696 4946 XY F121(\015)S 133 x F159(B)S 133 x F121(\015)S 133 x F159
(C)S 133 x F121(\015)S 133 x F159(dBx)S 132 x F121(\015)S 133 x F159
(HX-Pro)S 133 x F121(\015)S 133 x F159(none)S 5909 Y 6179 X(Label)S
132 x(produced)S 133 x(with)S 133 x(V)S -45 x(AX)S 132 x(DOCUMENT)S
615 y 6179 X 13044 24 R 7839 Y 6179 X F171(dt)S 184 x F32(Guitar)S
183 x(Noters)S 182 x(V)S -40 x(olume)S 182 x(2)S 650 y 6179 X 
13044 24 R 498 y 6312 X F40(A)S 498 y 573 x F159(Jeff)S 132 x
(Cooper)S 133 x(-)S 132 x(Public)S 132 x(Service)S 498 y 8317 X
(Message)S 498 y 7209 X(Dave)S 115 x(Bottom)S 115 x(-)S 115 x(Don')S
-7 x(t)S 115 x(Forget)S 115 x(T)S -36 x(o)S 498 y 8317 X(Shut)S 134 x
(the)S 133 x(Door)S 498 y 7209 X(Alan)S 132 x(Starr)S -30 x(,)S 133 x
(T)S -37 x(om)S 133 x(Gallo)S 132 x(-)S 132 x(Sarah)S 499 y 8450 X
(Lovely)S 498 y 7209 X(Dave)S 133 x(Russo)S 132 x(-)S 132 x(Hippie')S
-15 x(s)S 132 x(T)S -28 x(une)S 498 y 7209 X(Andy)S 133 x(Leclai)S
-2 x(re,)S 133 x(Pete)S 133 x(Cook)S 134 x(-)S 498 y 8317 X(Bad)S 
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133 x(CJ)S 132 x(-)S 132 x(MIDI)S 134 x(Rack)S 498 y 14969 X(Puke)S
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    	Here's the final cost breakdown for copies of Vol 2.
    
    	Tape (Maxell UDXL II C90) 	$2.25
    	Padded Bag			$0.75
    	Postage				$0.75
    					-----
    	Total				$3.75 per tape
    
    	If you want a copy of the tape, send, yes, send me a check or
    money order for $3.75 to me at my home address. Be sure to include
    the address you want the tape sent to.
    
    	My address is:
    
    	Tom Gallo
    	124 Felton St.
    	Lowell, Mass 01852
                                          

    
    
    	Volume 2 submittors, Attention!
    
    	Some of you have expressed interest in having me copy over
    your submission tape. If you are one of these folks, please let
    me know and I'll dub onto your tape. I'll need to get $1.50 to
    cover the return postage/packaging.
    
    	Submittors who want their original cassettes back, I'll need
    $1.50 for return postage/packaging. Unless of course, you've already
    included return postage ( dbii, Dave Clark and RJ pelletier), in
    which case, I'll get your tape returned as soon as I can. 
    
    A check or money order for postage/packaging can be sent to be 
    at:
    
    	Tom Gallo
    	124 Felton St.
    	Lowell, Ma 01852
    
    

    
    	RE: .364 [Mike]
    
    	HowTF do you print that thing?  I'm missing a qualifier some-
    	where, I believe.
    
    							GTI
    

    I would like a copy of the tape but I am in Australia.  Is there any
    chance of sending one out here.  Also how about a copy of the first
    tape?.
    P.K

>    	HowTF do you print that thing?  I'm missing a qualifier some-
>    	where, I believe.
    
    extract it and send it to your favorite local PostScript printer.
    
    Mike

    re: printing postscript files
    
    Extract the note and trim off all the header information.  The
    postscript commands must be the first lines in the file.  Then print
    the file to a postscript capable printer (LPSxx,LN03R,etc.) using the
    command:
    
    $ PRINT/QUE=your-ps-printer-queue/PARAM=(DATA=POSTSCRIPT) filename
    
    Hope this helps,
    Greg
        

    Works great for me dude.....
    
    All I gotta do now is get my hands on a tape......
    
    Bonzo (It's cold and lonely here in the frozen north)

    this is all I use, but I installed the LPS software so that the
    PostScript queue has a PS_ prefix.  The (DATA=POSTSCRIPT) isn't
    necessary that way.
    
    $ PRINT/QUE=PS_queuename filename

    
    
    
    	For my own sanity, could those who are ordering tapes, 
    please send me mail indicating that? I need to know how
    many tapes I'll need, etc. 
    
    	Submittors, please remember that if *you* want a copy
    of the tape, you have to let me know as well. If you want
    me to copy over your submission tape, let me know that as 
    well..
    
    -T
    

    re - .372
    
      DATA=POST is nessessary sometimes: Sometimes (due to something
    in system software - in certain systems) the lps40's forget to
    use PostScript so it has to be defined.
    
    
    John

    
    
    	I sent out a bunch of tapes this weekend, here's a (hopefully)
    complete list:
    
    	Jeff Cooper
    	John D'errico
    	Dave Clark
    	Bob Conroy
    	Mike Ryan (Piced up in my office)
    	Dave Russo
    	Rick Calcagni
    	
    
    There's probably more folks, I just can't remember 'em all. If you sent 
    a check, rest assured that your tape will be sent. 
    

    
    	In order to "stimulate" business and get this GN vol2 monkey off my
    back, I'm going to set a deadline of Feb. 15th for orders. 
    
    	I've gotten a lot of folks telling me they'll order a tape, but
    really not that many orders. I'm getting real busy in the new job
    and want to wrap it up. 
    
    	For you ZK folks, I'm keeping a small supply of tapes in my
    cube. If you want to pick one up here, send me mail.
    
    -T
    
    
    

    I sent my order in this morning.
    
    Mike

       So... Like my anticipation of the spring season- Has, or will 
    anyone offer(ed) to reproduce the next "V3" tape? I'd like to offer
    but I do not have adequate equipment for this.
    
    /J
    

    I just received vol. 2 today and am currently listening to it.  I can't
    seem to find the vol. 2 liner notes topic.  Where is it?
    
    Mike

DIR/TITLE=LINER yields:
    
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  1809   GLOWS::COCCOLI       2-MAY-1990    11  Guitarnotes Volume I Liner Notes
  2028    GSRC::COOPER       12-NOV-1990    11  Guitarnotes Volume 2 - Liner notes

    {blush!}

    Hi Folks, I'm alive, Huh bet you thought I died or something, nope
    you wouldn't be so lucky... I moved back to Maine my home town and
    am working on the floor so I don't have much time for the notes file
    anymore. Still playing though full time...
    
    
    I will try to get in here once in a while to keep myself posted..
    
    
    later 
    
    
    Rj

    
    
    
    	Yo, Pelletier Unit.. welcome back to leweytown!!!  Nice to see
    maine boys returning!

    I'm posting the Document source code for the Noter's tapes.  Whoever
    wants to pick up the ball is welcome to.
    
    Mike
    
<CASSETTE>(<declogo> Guitar Noters Volume 1)
<side_a>(
<list>(simple)
<align_char>(#)
<le> Tom DesRochers - 'Cause We've <line>
     ############Ended As Lovers
<le> Rich Coccoli - My Secret Life <line>
     ###########- Pariah <line>
     ###########- Gerbil In My <line>
     #############Pocket
<le> Steve Greve - Students <line>
     ############Revenge <line>
     ##########- You Tied Me Up <line> 
     ###########and Left Me You <line>
     ###########Dirty Cheezedick
<le> Bob Conroy - Lady and the <line>
     ############Unicorn <line>
     ###########- Sarabande
<le> Jerry White & - Raise The <line>
     Jeff Cooper ####Stakes <line>
     #############- Little Teaser <line>
     #############- Her Love
<endlist>)

<side_b>(
<list>(simple)
<le> Kevin McDonough - Goin' Down
<le> Brian Rost	- Nothing But Time <line>
     #########- Parallel
<le> Larry Vignealt - Theme From <line>
     ##############The Unknown <line>
     ##############Movie <line>
     ############- The Way She <line>
     ##############Makes Me Smile  <line>
     ############- Just A Blues <line>
     ##############Jam
<le> Bill Buckley - Reminicence Of <line>
     #############Rio  <line>
     ###########- Fallen Angel
<le> John Williams - Traveler  <line>
     #############- East Block Stomp
<endalign_char>
<endlist>)
<ENDCASSETTE>
    
<CASSETTE>(<declogo> Guitar Noters Volume 2)
<side_a>(
<list>(simple)
<align_char>(#)
<le> Jeff Cooper - Public Service <line>#####Message 
<le> Dave Bottom - Don't Forget To<line>#####Shut the Door 
<le> Alan Starr, Tom Gallo - Sarah<line>##### Lovely
<le> Dave Russo - Hippie's Tune
<le> Andy Leclaire, Pete Cook - <line>#####Bad Dog
<le> Paul Cummings - Just For <line>#####Kicks
<le> Dave Clark, Dave Russo - <line>#####Roumanian Boogie
<le> RJ Pelletier - Born To Run
<le> Bob Conroy - Somewhere Over <line>#####The Rainbow
<le> Dave Russo - The Lost <line>#####Porpoise
<endlist>)

<side_b>(
<list>(simple)    
<le> Jeff Cooper - Take A Chance
<le> Paul Cummings - Mr. Gone
<le> Alan Starr, Tom Gallo - Wait <line>#####For You
<le> Andrew Leclaire - Sor Etude in <line>#####C Major
<le> 3 Many Daves (Dave Clark, <line>#####Dave Russo) - It's OK
<le> RJ Pelletier - Is This Love
<le> Jeff Cooper, CJ - MIDI Rack <line>#####Puke Rap
<le> Bob Conroy - When Johnny <line>#####Comes Marching Home
<le> Paul Cummings - Unknown <line>#####Idiots
<le> Tom Gallo, Alan Starr - Tori, <line>#####Sweet Tori
<le> Alan Starr - While My Guitar <line>#####Gently Weeps
<le> Dave Bottom - Breakdown and <line>#####Cry
<endalign_char>
<endlist>)
<ENDCASSETTE>
    

    Anybody up for a VOL.III ?
    
    I'd be willing to put one together, on a few conditions:
    
    	> You send me the tape *exactly* as you want it to be heard -
    	  I ain't eq'ing anything !  8^)
    	> Send it in it's final form - I don't have a 4 track to do any
    	  sort of a mixdown.
    
    Aside from that, I'd be willing to do it.  Lemme know what ya think !
    
    Scary

I've got some things to contribute.


-Tom

    I've also got some things in the wing.
    
    Alright Scary...applause, applause...I was just thinking the other day
    "hmmm, what about a Vol III"??
    
    Glad to see it might actually happen

I think a new HardBall demo is in the works, so count me in !!

jc (On the move)

    Like I said in mail - make a LIVE demo ...  8^)
    
    Scary

     
    
    I've got some stuff to put on.......
    
                                                    Marko

    I'm gonna try to make this one.
    
    Joe

    
    I'll try to get something on this one, too. 
    
    Kevin
    

    Talk's cheap kids .... show me !   8^)
    
    Scary (who wants to see Greg and Pat on this one ...)

    
    
    	I don't wanna sound like a dork here but like everyone realizes
    that what ever is on the tape is copyrighted don't they?
    
    J  (Who is now in a really cool band and might like to submit a
        couple of songs but who is totally paranoid about people
        'borrowing' bits.)

    I sent 
    1. Scarlatti , sonata in A major 
    2. J. S. Bach , Prelude in D maj ( from Eb )
    3. Castelnuovo-Tedesco, Spring from Platero y Yo
    
    Recorded July, 1991 in my domicile on the  classical guitar. 

    Doggone it, I may just un-ass some $$$ and get a recorder to do
    this. I'm not playin in a band anymore, so I just sit around the house
    dubbin away. What I'd really like to do tho is team up with someone who
    can write lyrics. I can compose tunes well enough, but I'm a player and
    not much of a songwriter. Yeah, this may be pretty good.
    
    Sakman