Conference napalm::guitar

    The bass player for Little Feat was using a 4 10 setup at Bowdin
    a couple of weeks ago...sounded very nice...
        
    
    dbii

      If the reliability on these are high, it may be worth it for 
    a long term investment. I would most likely get a Hartke set-up
    as a system of all systems, given the technology doesn't change
    much too soon. 
    
    John

    One potential drawback of these cabs is the weight, something on
    the order of 90 lbs per.  This may not be a factor for you, but for
    me it ruled out any serious consideration.  Btw, the guys at Hartke
    say the cabs have to be that heavy; the driver magnets alone are
    about 12 lbs apiece and the transient response of the drivers is so
    fast that it will tear lesser cabs apart.

    /rick

    
    I was being optimistic in my earlier reply....I just saw the latest
    Music Emporium catalog price for a Hartke 410 cab, they want $675.
     
    I doubt you could do any better than $600 for one new, based on
    that.  

    Have you tried the SWR Goliath (four 10s plus a tweet).  This is
    supposed to be hot...and about a grand.

      Should I start lifting weights to get a head start on these things?
    Maybe I should hire a full-time roadie. That's what originally made
    me get rid of my Carvin years ago. I guess you can't have your
    cake and eat it. 
      I haven't looked into the SWR's, seems to be just a tad out of
    my price range, I'll need to save for two more components.
    
    
    John

    re: the Hartke cabs...
    
    I can understand the need/desire for 4-10"s and more for live playing
    but what about playing at reduced volume or non-gigging situations. 
    
    Does anyone know if the Kartke 2-10" configuration would support this
    kind of playing well?  Or are the 2-10"s really only intended to be
    a high-freq box for a biamped system or for guitar (instead of bass)?
    
    - John -

    The Hartke 2-10 box is a 4-10 bass cab cut in half. They recommend it
    as a high pass cab, but with the same drivers in it, the only thing
    that would be a problem is that the cabinet could not be tuned as low
    due to the smaller box volume. 

    BTW, the aforementioned SWR folks make a combo amp called the RedHead
    which uses half of the Goliath cab (2 10" and a tweeter) together
    with a 250 watt tube/transistor head and it is tuned (they say)
    to 27 Hz.  They even have a single height rack space built in for
    mounting your favorite digital processor.  Cool.....oughta be for
    $1500.

    If you can afford the SWR's then get them, but the sound you can
    get from using SWR's you can also get from Hartke's and at about
    half the price.  I am currently running through a Pierce BP-1 Bass
    Pre-Amp into a Rane 3-way crossover.  My highs go out to a Carver
    100-watt power amp into two Hartke 2x10 cabinets (which, by the
    way, are not 4x10 bass cab's cut in half, duh!), my mids go out
    to a Carver 200-watt power amp into two Hartke 4x10 cabinets and
    my lows go out to another Carver 200-watt power amp into two Hartke
    1x15 cabinets.  Also in the rack are a Nady 650 wireless, a BBE
    sonic maximizer, a dbx 160x and in the very near future a ART SGE
    multi effects processor.  I realize that the Hartke's are a little
    bit heavier than most, but the sound *and* the reliability of these
    cabinets is like no other.  I've had two of my cab's since they
    were called Guild/Hartke Transient Attack Cabinets since about three
    years going on four, they've been used, abused, cranked, yanked
    and just about everything in between, and I have not had a problem
    with them yet.  I wouldn't change them for any other cabinet on
    the market, including the SWR's.
    
    Ed
     
    

Does anyone know if Hartke drivers are available seperately, or are they only
sold in Hartke cabs?  I coulda sworn I've seen 'em "loose" in mailorder mags,
but can't find that source now.

Thanks in advance,

-- Sam