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| 4070.1 |  | WELSWS::FINNIS |  | Fri Aug 31 1990 19:50 | 6 | 
|  |     
    
    I can tell where you can find .gif files that you can convert !!
    
    
    			- Pete -
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| 4070.2 | .gif and any other format | DECWET::DAVIS | You always get what you deserve | Sat Sep 01 1990 17:11 | 5 | 
|  |     That would be ok.  Now to read through the Gif conversion notesfiles
    again unless someone wants to recommend the ULTIMATE gif conversion
    software.  I am leaning toward The Art Dept.
    
    mark
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| 4070.3 | TAD is the way! | NSSG::SULLIVAN | Steven E. Sullivan | Sat Sep 01 1990 17:43 | 9 | 
|  | REL.2
>   I am leaning toward The Art Dept.
So do I! TAD does a remarkably superior job for me than any other I
have found plus it is orders of magnitude more flexible. The high res
interlaced 16 color version of the astronaut spacewalking direct from
the GIF is an astounding example of this.
	-SES
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| 4070.4 | do you use the GIF loader | SALEM::LEIMBERGER |  | Tue Sep 04 1990 05:44 | 9 | 
|  |     I also use,and like TAD. Remember though, TAD will not load GIF
    directly without the purchase of the GIF loader. I have been converting
    to RGB using GiftoRGB,then loading the file. re .2 are you converting,
    or do you have the GIF loader ? If you have the loader could you give
    some info on it's features ? Recently I have been looking for pictures
    I can use on distributable material. I don't believe many of the 
    pictures that are available meet this criteria. I plan to make a trip
    to the library,and see what is available.(copyright has expired etc).
    Can anyone offer any info on sources for pics of this nature ?
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| 4070.5 |  | NSSG::SULLIVAN | Steven E. Sullivan | Tue Sep 04 1990 09:46 | 9 | 
|  | I am using the GIF module for TAD. Just like any other TAD module...
just loads up the file in 8 or 24 bit format!
The quality of the result is very much like using GIF2RGB to make a
24bit deep IFF file, then loading it into TAD. Using the GIF loader saves
lots of disk space and is much more convenient than GIF2RGB. Either will
work, but for less than $40 I think the GIF loader is a steal!
	-SES
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| 4070.6 | have to get it | SALEM::LEIMBERGER |  | Tue Sep 04 1990 11:36 | 4 | 
|  |     I guess I'll have to invest in the Gif loader. Money is tight this
    month (birthday + N.H.= broke),but I'll work at it. I did not realize 
    they were shipping the GIF loader yet.
    								bill
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| 4070.7 | If you're serious, you might want to wait on that GIF loader... | TENAYA::MWM |  | Tue Sep 04 1990 13:29 | 18 | 
|  | TAD Professional is out (or should be out soon). The press releases I've
seen indicate that it comes with the GIF loader. The upgrade cost is $75,
meaning that it's only slightly more expensive than two loaders.
On the plus side, it comes with an ARexx interface, so you can program it to
convert a directory full of pictures while you're doing something else. (That's
the main reason I haven't ordered the GIF loader - I want that ARexx interface!)
It also comes with a collection of other loaders, and the ability to save
to those formats as well as load from them. Finally, it's got hooks to
talk to lots of different output devices, writing direct from the 24-bit
image.
Summary: if you're thinking about buying _any_ loaders for TAD, you should
check out the PRO version. It might save you money in the long run. If you're
sure you're only going to buy that one loader, then it's probably not worth
it.
	<mike
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| 4070.8 |  | WELSWS::FINNIS |  | Tue Sep 04 1990 16:34 | 6 | 
|  |     
    I'll sort out some locations for pictures and post them here
    
    
    
    			- Pete -
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| 4070.9 | just gets better and better | SALEM::LEIMBERGER |  | Wed Sep 05 1990 05:10 | 12 | 
|  |     
    re .7 
    	Thanks for the Tip. I'll save the cost of the Gif loader toward the
    pro update. That sounds exciting to me. The added ability to convert to
    and from the various graphic formats alone is mindboggling,and this
    with arexx support!!!!! I plan to call ASDG for info on any updates to
    tad ,and see what they say. $75.00 is actually cheap if you look at it
    from the purchasing loaders aspect. Of course if you run a graphics
    based business this program is a godsend,and I am sure the equal in the
    Mac,or IBM world would come quite a bit steeper. Now there is a great
    opportunity for an enterprising soul. 
    								bill
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| 4070.10 | limit of ten pics | SALEM::LEIMBERGER |  | Fri Sep 07 1990 07:19 | 20 | 
|  |     In talking with ASDG I found that TAD now comes with the Sculpt,and
    Impulse loaders included. They make a point of saying these were
    included free on the packaging. Now if I want this upgrade 1.0.2
    it will take my orginal disk,and $25.00. I think that if a person
    purchases the first revision of a product they should have a better
    deal in an instance like this. If the price of the software had
    increased I could see charging the $25.00. But this is not the case.
    I am calling today to express my thoughts. I'll wait and upgrade to the
    professional version.
    	Well I took a trip to the library,and it paid off. I found a book
    on antique brass weathervanes. The pics are in grayscale,and scan
    great. They have a very high degree of detail. I scaned a dragon as
    my test case. In the copyright notice it stated that because these
    pictures were part of an archive, you could use up to ten in any one
    publication without permission. (clipart books offer this also)
    On the shelf next to it was another book with many of the same pics
    that stated you could not use the pictures. Guess which book I took
    home ! You cannot duplicate these for inclusion in another art
    distribution package though.
    								bill
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| 4070.11 |  | AMIGA2::MCGHIE | Thank Heaven for small Murphys ! | Fri Sep 07 1990 20:47 | 6 | 
|  | Hi Bill,
could you upload the iff picture of the Dragon ?
Regards
	Mike
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| 4070.12 | GIF online... | WELSWS::FINNIS |  | Sun Sep 09 1990 20:24 | 13 | 
|  |     
    
    For a Short period of time there will be lots of .GIF pictures at the 
    following location..
    
    		Use GIF2IFF to change them...
    
    
    			- Pete -
    Some may not convert but most do...
    
    
    
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| 4070.13 | Where ? | WELSWS::FINNIS |  | Sun Sep 09 1990 20:25 | 8 | 
|  |     
    Sorry I forgot to say where....
    
    			
    		welsws::dja3:[gif]*.*
    
    
    			-= Pete =-
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| 4070.14 | Check out CSCMAS:: | MSVAX::BARRETT | I did not see Elvis | Sun Sep 09 1990 14:20 | 4 | 
|  |     There are also more GIF pictures online that you could possibly want
    on CSCMAS:: -- see the IBMPC notes file for details.
    
    Keith
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| 4070.15 | Now in IFF | WELSWS::FINNIS |  | Mon Sep 10 1990 15:08 | 12 | 
|  |     
    Thanks but I got a load from there anyway..
    
    
    A lot have now been converted using gif2iff -dp source dest 
    
    IFF now in  welsws::dja3:[iff]
    
    
    
    			-= Pete =-
    
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| 4070.16 |  | MSVAX::BARRETT | Experience Far Fig Newton? | Mon Sep 10 1990 15:23 | 2 | 
|  |     I tried to take a look at them, but got a protection violation.
    Any chance you could make them available?
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| 4070.17 | Ok | WELSWS::FINNIS |  | Mon Sep 10 1990 16:01 | 8 | 
|  |     
    
    Ok ...
    
    		Also try welsws::dja3:[pictures]
    
    			-= Pete =-
    
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| 4070.18 | Where can I order TAD from, and who is ASDG | BSS::CALLAGHAN | last hymn is sung, Devil cries MORE | Tue Sep 18 1990 13:02 | 9 | 
|  |     
    	Can someone give me a reference point of ordering 
    	TAD (The Art Dept.), and also who is ASDG?
    
    		This sounds like the tool I need, and I'd 
    		like to get access to it!!
    
    						thanks,
    							Jack
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| 4070.19 |  | NSSG::SULLIVAN | Steven E. Sullivan | Tue Sep 18 1990 13:43 | 3 | 
|  | Most amiga dealers carry TAD. I know the Software Shop had it in stock Saturday.
Last time I was in Memory Location in Wellsley MA they had it. The Software
shop does mail order and has an ad in Amiga World.
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| 4070.20 | Superview, anyone? | WHAMMY::SPODARYK | Scaring the pedestrians... | Tue Sep 18 1990 23:52 | 9 | 
|  |     A while ago (couple of weeks maybe?) I remember seeing a pointer to
    a new version of superview.  Is this true, or have I completely lost 
    it?  I can't seem to find it in any of the "normal" locations.
    
    What are some of your favorite .iff viewers.  Superview has been my 
    choice (due to speed mainly), but I'm really finding a lot of bugs 
    lately.  I'm hoping some of them have been fixed.
    
    Steve
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| 4070.21 | Try Mostra | DECWET::DAVIS | You always get what you deserve | Wed Sep 19 1990 01:21 | 9 | 
|  |     I ditched superview for Mostra.  It will also view Dyna-Ham(if you have
    the viewer in your search path) and sliced-ham pictures.  If the
    picture is larger than your screen size it allows you to "scroll
    around" the picture, plus a whole lot of extras.  It also loads and
    views pictures much faster than superview.  I still use superview
    occasionally for running animations but Mostra is my "main" viewing
    utility.  I believe the version of superview I use is 3.0.
    
    mark
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| 4070.22 | make sure you get latest version | SALEM::LEIMBERGER |  | Wed Sep 19 1990 05:31 | 15 | 
|  |     re .18 
    	I saw the latest version of TAd at System Eyes. It is 2.0
    compatable,and has the loaders for Impulse,and the other popular 3D 
    rendering(sorry mental block) included. Steve has also placed an order
    for the professional version. I booted it on the 3000 with 2.0 and it
    looked real nice. I will upgrade to the professional as soon as I get
    the mailer. ASDG are the people that gave us the original recoverable
    ram disk. I have their JX100 scanner,and the software they developed
    for it.(scanner is made by Sharp). ASDG puts out a level of quality
    that should serve as an example for many developers. Funny how they
    keep the use of menus to a minimum and still offer one of the most user
    friendly packages around. Pixel 3D also uses a non amiga interface that
    belies the power of the software in it's ease of use. Don't buy TAD
    unless you know it is version 2.0 .
    								bill
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| 4070.23 |  | MSVAX::BARRETT | I must not waste bandwidth | Wed Sep 19 1990 09:51 | 2 | 
|  |     I also switched to MOSTRA; although I keep Superview around as a
    "backup".
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| 4070.24 | Problems with MOSTRA? | CSSE32::SMITH | Reality, just a visible imagination? | Wed Sep 19 1990 10:09 | 5 | 
|  | Has anyone else had a problem with MOSTRA displaying DPIII pictures?  I seem
to GURU everytime.  If I load the picture into DigiView and just save it 
again, no problem.
...Ed
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| 4070.25 | No problems here. | DECWET::DAVIS | You always get what you deserve | Wed Sep 19 1990 11:46 | 3 | 
|  |     So far I haven't had any problems with any IFF graphics.
    
    md
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| 4070.26 | They're here at last | WELSWS::FINNIS |  | Thu Aug 01 1991 18:58 | 8 | 
|  |     I've just uploaded some converted GIF pictures to TAPE::
    
    They take the form Pictures_[a,b,c,d,etc...].lzh
    
    They are of mixed quality but may provide some amusement :-)
    
    			-Pete-
    
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