Conference hydra::amiga_v1

    re .0
    Guess you shouldn't have said anything huh? (re .1), but since you did
    here goes.  System Eyes in GREYSTONE PLAZA (Nashua NH) is a well
    stocked store and the sales people are VERY knowlegable and helpful.
    The prices are about average, but when you're a member you'll get 15%
    off the cost of software and with the titles you mentioned that'll add
    up.  Hope it helps.
    
    							Skull_of_Death

    re .0, .1
    
    Dec isn't in the desktop publishing or animation business, so the
    employees agreement doesn't apply, in my opinion.  At any rate, that's
    between the employee and his manager and no one else.
    
    However, using a notes file to obtain info on buying equipment for a	
    private business is definately prohibited and I don't think there is
    any question that this note should be hidden.
    
    My 2 cents worth.
    
    ken
    

    Re: .3
    
        .1 has been removed - no need to burn anyones buns...I was just
    curious since my personnel people claimed that any/all computer 
    business is in direct competition with DEC when I consulted them
    over a similar issue...I am staring to wonder if this is just their 
    interpretation and may now pursue the matter further...
    
    I was genuinely curious...but agree that this is the wrong forum
    to ask such questions - apologies enclosed
    
    Phil
    

    
    Rather than go through the usual list of opinions and "I heards", 
    I think it is always best to go right to the Orange Book, now
    available online via VTX.  I believe its says a "consulting" business
    is ok, selling hardware products or software products, no.
    
    Dennis (who was curious, too).
    

    I think it really depends on what you are doing (ie. are you working on
    an AmigaVMS-type shell, a VTxxx terminal emulator, etal.)  The 
    consulting option looks like it works to develop but every case has to
    get an ok.
    
    Incidentlally, I am/was writing an Adventure type game to attempt to
    market and when I started getting justification down called legal (name
    was given to me by my PSA) and he said "recreational software? 
    adventure game?...no probelm its yours."  Your milegae may vary
    depending on if they can link the work to DEC otr your job but it 
    is possible it would seem.
    
    George
    

    If one wishes to do DTP work on the Amiga I suggest that Professional
    Draw be added to the list of must have software. As far as video
    goes the Amiga is the only piece I could afford. Looked at a VCR
    yesterday,and the cheapest I could find that I felt could do the
    job was 1600.00 on sale. Of course you may need 2 so.....
    						bill

    Youll probably also need a scanner at some point...if you dont already
    own one...
    
        I believe Gold Disk also market a cannon scanner which they claim
    is best suited for ProPage ProDraw - but its only B/w - you 
    could probably find cheaper and better alternatives - I have a wee
    Datel handiscan but it wouldnt be suitable for business purposes...
    
    FWIW

Re: .3

I've never seen any statement anywhere that using a notesfile to buy
equipment for a private business (or any other legal or moral purpose)
is prohibited.

    re: .9
    
    See OrangeBook, section 6.54 (Proper Use of Digital Computers,
    Systems and Networks).  The sub-head "definitions" defines improper
    use as including "compete with the Company's business activities".
    Thus, if offering hardware or software products is considered
    "competing" (as was claimed by a previous reply) then use of Digital's
    network for this purpose is improper.
        John Sauter

Re: .10

It sounds like you and I are in agreement: there is no policy against
using the network to buy hardware or software for a private business
(or any other legal or moral purpose).  (I classify breaking your
employee agreement and competing with DEC as being at least one of
illegal or immoral.)  Note .3, which brought up the question, stated
the opinion that the author wasn't competing, but there was a general
policy against buying equipment that would be used in a business
though a notesfile.  There is no such policy that I know of.

As to whether the author of the base note is competing with DEC,
that is between him and his management.  Some management chains
define competition as anything computer related (having a typing
business that uses intelligent typewriters is competition).
Other define it as directly competing against DEC by offering
hardware, software, or a service that is offered by DEC.  Thus,
selling a C compiler for VAXs is competing;  selling a game for pcs
isn't.