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| 2937.1 | It might be cheaper to buy | LASHAM::EAST | | Wed Sep 20 1989 11:06 | 17 |
| Malcolm,
I have the details at home. I will look them up and psot them
tomorrow. The biggest problem is finding a supplier of the plug
(or is it socket? I can't remember) at the A500 end. It is a
23 way D (plug or socket?). Most suppliers have standard RS232
25 way plugs and sockets as used on the serial port on the A500.
Plenty of advertisers in computer magazines have ready made
leads for around 10 pounds. By the time you have bought cable and
connectors you will be close to this anyway.
Still it might be useful to have this information posted in
the notes conference anyway
see you tomorrow
David.
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| 2937.2 | | AMIGA2::MCGHIE | Thank Heaven for small Murphys ! | Thu Sep 21 1989 02:59 | 4 |
| I bought a standard Commodore monitor cable and that came with a SCART
connector (which I chopped off).
Mike
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| 2937.3 | SCART Pin Outs | ODIHAM::EAST | | Thu Sep 21 1989 04:24 | 44 |
| Malcolm,
Here goes!-- Page A6 (in my book) of the Intro to Amiga
500 which comes with your machine has the deatails of the A500
23 way "D" plug.
The SCART pin out is as foloows:
1 3 5 7 9 11 13 15 17 19 21
|--------------------------------|
| I I I I I I I I I I I| Pin guide viewed from
| \ plug Solder terminals.
| I I I I I I I I I I \
|__________________________________\
2 4 6 8 10 12 14 16 18 20
Video Input 20
Video Output 19
Common Video Earth (Ground) 7
Audio Inputs 2 & 6
Audio Outputs 1 & 3
Common Audio Earth (Ground) 4
RGB inputs (Computers)
Red 10
Red Earth (Ground) 13
Green 11
Green Earth (Ground) 9
Blue 7
Blue Earth (Ground) 5
RGB Control 16
RGB Control Earth (Ground) 18
Audio/Video control 8 (for exchanging infra-red commands)
Plug Shield 21
Chassis Earth 14
If you are connecting to a TV I think you will need to connect
the RGB ANALOG outputs (pins 3,4,5 and associated grounds)
and pin 10 Composite Sync from A500. But since you have a "mangled" cable
already these should be identifiable.
I hope this is OK and not information overload.
Regards,
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| 2937.4 | Why 23-pin??? | NEEPS::MCLARK | | Thu Sep 21 1989 05:02 | 11 |
| Hello,
Many thanks for your answer but, can you tell me where the Amiga
composite sync connects to the scart (pin number).
I have a supplier in Aberdeen that supplies the 23-pin
D-types if anybody needs the address I shall send it on.
Thanks,
Malcolm.
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| 2937.5 | Cablegram??????? | ODIHAM::EAST | | Thu Sep 21 1989 05:41 | 12 |
| Malcolm,
re- composite video. I suspect it needs to be connected to
pin 16 RGB control.
Re 23 pin D-type. why not post the details here? It might
prove useful. I wouldn't mind experimenting with A500 and VR290
but as a first step would need to make a cable.
Regards,
David
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| 2937.6 | Whats that burning smell?? | NEEPS::MCLARK | | Thu Sep 21 1989 08:52 | 23 |
| Hello again David,
I will be trying out the config. later on today
and I'll let you know how I got on!!!
The address for the company that sell 23-pin D-types is
Logram Electronics,
430 Clifton Road,
Aberdeen
AB2 2EJ
Tel:- 0224-699696
Price 2.95
Thanks again....
Malcolm
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| 2937.7 | Not only atoms glow in the dark!! | ODIHAM::EAST | | Thu Sep 21 1989 09:53 | 13 |
| Malcolm,
Go for it! You should get some clues by checking out the mangled
cable to find out what was already connected. So long as you DONT
connect up any of the power rails that CBM put on the A500 connector.
You should be OK.
If it works I'll take the credit. If it doesn't I'll post the
usual disclaimers. Let me know how you get on. I'll look northwards
tonight and hope the glow is the araura!!!!!!!
Regards,
David
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| 2937.8 | ok, I'll bite | WJG::GUINEAU | Impossible Concentration | Thu Sep 21 1989 12:12 | 4 |
|
What's SCART?
John
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| 2937.9 | Don't swallow such large bits... ;-) | FRAMBO::BALZER | Christian Balzer DTN:785-1029 | Thu Sep 21 1989 12:26 | 15 |
| Re: .8
Hehe, another Americano meets the European (worldwide) standards... ;-)
While I can't tell what the letters stand for (although probably
S=Standard and C=Connector), it's a connector in the shape that
has been very nicely drawn a few replies back. You'll find this
connector on nearly any Video or TV equipment over here, which makes
connecting different brands a snap.
I wonder if it isn't in the US, since all the Japanese brands
feature it, too.
Regards,
<CB>
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| 2937.10 | US not as organized | SAUTER::SAUTER | John Sauter | Thu Sep 21 1989 15:20 | 11 |
| It isn't used in the U.S., presumably because different manufacturers
aren't interested in allowing their equipment to be connected together.
My TV set has mostly RCA jacks on the back, but there's also several
binding posts (for external speakers) and an S-VHS connector. Each
signal requires a separate cable, so the TV set has to be kept well
away from the wall, and the space behind it is a rats nest.
I guess that's the virtue of anarchy. It could be worse: RCA jacks are
used for both audio and video; they could have used F-connectors for
video.
John Sauter
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| 2937.11 | | 60898::MCGHIE | Thank Heaven for small Murphys ! | Thu Sep 21 1989 21:27 | 13 |
| Hmm,
down our way we tend to use RCA connectors for audio (though there's
always exceptions.), and the BNC type connector for pure video
connections and another connector type for RF/75 ohm TV/Video
connections.
I have noticed some of the videos and TVs have scart connections, but
not a lot (and the bulk come from Japan).
Regards
Mike
(Australia)
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| 2937.12 | SCART is a mess | LASHAM::EAST | | Fri Sep 22 1989 03:44 | 23 |
| re .8
John,
SCART - also known as Euroconnector. Common (in Europe anyway)
in the world of TV and VCR to produce single lead AV links. Usually
they turn out to be the bain of our lives since the devices being
linked have got SCART one end and the usual variety of BNC, Phono
& DIN connectors at the other. Secondly manufacturers produce single
purpose leads, you will notice it has audio/video in and audio/video out.
The cable manufacturer only implements one of these functions to
avoid the bunch of "bananas" at the other. Monitor leads will only
have A/V in so you need another lead for your VCR which wants both.
Anyone lucky enough to have SCART at both ends has a nice neat
installation with only one cable.
I don't know what the initials SCART stand for,but no doubt someone
will enlighten us before the day is out.
Regards,
David
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| 2937.13 | | WJG::GUINEAU | Impossible Concentration | Fri Sep 22 1989 07:33 | 5 |
| Sounds like a novel idea.
Thanks for the info everyone!
John
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| 2937.14 | I now know how the Northern lights are made | NEEPS::MCLARK | | Fri Sep 22 1989 10:32 | 16 |
| Well,
I tried connecting my Amiga to my TV yesterday and have got
a picture but no sync!!..
I also tried H-sync, V-sync, H and V linked, but no
joy. By the way when I tried the Comp.sync the picture went weird
(lots of diaganol lines across the screen ...any other ideas to
help me ...PLEASE I know there must be a simple solution to this
.somewhere...........
( I need some more help David )
Malcolm
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| 2937.15 | Almost there??? | LASHAM::EAST | | Fri Sep 22 1989 11:56 | 15 |
| Malcolm,
Just for completeness in the conference. Following our telephone
conversation: Try sync on green as Dec does with some of its monitors.
See if you can find out what Panasonic expects to find as inputs
on the SCART connector. Try your local TV handyman to see if he
has any ideas.
DOES ANYONE OUT THERE HAVE AN AMIGA - SCART LEAD? COULD YOU METER
THE PIN OUTS AND POST THE RESULTS TO HELP MALCOLM. THANKS IN
ADVANCE.
David
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| 2937.16 | Metered Lead Connections | BELFST::MCCLINTOCK | Peter | Fri Sep 22 1989 19:08 | 41 |
|
I have metered my SCART lead and can give you the connections.
1st problem is that my scart plugs/sockets only have 20 possible
connections not 21 as in .?
Anyhow here it is:
1 3 5 7 9 11 13 15 17 19
|--------------------------------|
| I I I I I I I I I I | Pin guide viewed from
| \ plug Solder terminals.
| I I I I I I I I I I \
|__________________________________\
2 4 6 8 10 12 14 16 18 20
1 12
o o o o o o o o o o o o
o o o o o o o o o o o Amiga 13way video plug
13 23
SCART AMIGA
2 Left audio
4 Audio ground
6 Right audio
7 5
11 4
15 3
17 18
20 10
Hope this helps.
Peter
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| 2937.17 | pin 21 = shield | AYOV28::ATHOMSON | C'mon, git aff! /The Kelty Clippie | Mon Sep 25 1989 08:01 | 8 |
|
� 1st problem is that my scart plugs/sockets only have 20 possible
� connections not 21 as in .?
In the SCART diagram I got when I bought my new TV, "pin 21" is
the shield itself.
Alan T.
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| 2937.18 | Pin 21 is the shield | ODIHAM::EAST | | Wed Sep 27 1989 06:20 | 10 |
| Peter & Alan,
You are correct. Pin 21 of the SCART specification is the plug
shield.
In my original drawing it was a quirk of trying to draw using
the keyboard that shows it as a separate pin.
Best regards,
David
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