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Conference hydra::amiga_v1

Title:AMIGA NOTES
Notice:Join us in the *NEW* conference - HYDRA::AMIGA_V2
Moderator:HYDRA::MOORE
Created:Sat Apr 26 1986
Last Modified:Wed Feb 05 1992
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5378
Total number of notes:38326

2924.0. "Yet another cry for download help!" by MERIDN::BARRETT (Wait'll they get a load of me) Sun Sep 17 1989 17:01

    
    	I have 2 problems:
    
    1-
    	I have a situation where I cannot turn off the flow control
    settings on my dial-in LAT port to the VAX. This prevents me
    from using XMODEM to download the FRED-FISH ZOO files on TAPE::.
    
    	These ZOO files are in STREAM format, so cannot be used for
    KERMIT as is. I ran CVTARC on one, but the resulting ZOO file would
    not decode using VMSZOO. This presented me with a problem, as there
    seemed to be no way to download the desired files. Can someone that
    uses KERMIT tell me what they use and how they fix this?
    
    
    2-
    	Well, I thought - I'll just copy over the TAPE::FF*.KER files
    and transfer those until I solve my problem. There aren't many of
    these however, but I thought I'd gain something. Tried to copy them
    to my node and got an "insufficient resource at remote node" error
    for every single one. Can someone look into this?
    
    
    			Thanks
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2924.1AMIGA2::MCGHIEThank Heaven for small Murphys !Sun Sep 17 1989 18:368
    Once you've run CVTARC across the files to convert them to fixed length
    records suitable for KERMIT, you will not be able to read them with
    VMSZOO. I used to you kermit all of the time, converting them to fixed,
    downline loading them and unpacking them was normally pretty reliable.
    The only snag is kermit is soo sllooowwww !!!!
    
    Regards
    	Mike
2924.2my kermit lets me do thisBAGELS::BRANNONDave BrannonMon Sep 18 1989 11:287
    how about telling kermit to SET FILE TYPE BLOCK
    before transferring the files.
    
    SET FILE TYPE FIXED will switch you back to using fixed length 512
    (kermit's default)
    
    -dave
2924.3A friend still in need...MCDONL::BARRETTWait'll they get a load of meMon Sep 18 1989 15:1915
    Re .1
    
    	Well; the transfered file to amiga also did not "unzoo" either,
    so I deduced that since it couldn't work even before the transfer,
    that it could not be made to work. I find it hard to understand
    why VMS would fail and Ami would work? Are you sure?
    
    
    Re .2
    
    	I'm not sure I follow. I'm aware of changing KERMIT settings
    (I assume by the postings in this conference that there is NO setting
    that makes a straight STREAM_LF file transfer correctly?), but are
    you saying I should try the FIXED setting on my CVTARC'd ZOO file?
    A DIR/FULL says is VARIABLE, not fixed.
2924.4BAGELS::BRANNONDave BrannonMon Sep 18 1989 17:4715
    re:.3
    
    to transfer a file that a DIR/FULL says is in Stream_lf format
    
    $ KERMIT
    KERMIT>SET FILE TYPE BLOCK
    KERMIT>SEND filename
    
    Using that method, you don't need to convert the file from Stream_lf
    with CVTARC to keep KERMIT happy.
    
    The other thing to check is to make sure you are not using ASCII
    mode on the Amiga side.
    
    -Dave