Conference hydra::amiga_v1

    Maybe we could use this notes file to describe good programs that
    were taken from the FF disks.  I am always interested in hearing
    about good utilities (such as backup programs) and games or eye
    pleasing stuff.  If I come across something real usefull, I will
    post something here...
    
    		--Mike
    

    
    	I was hoping to use this note to announce changes to the
    down line load system and announce when groups a disks were
    available.
    
    	I think the FF disk are ALL full of very useful software.
    Because each of us has our own idea about what is "real useful"
    software I'm not sure posting it is useful.
    
    
    
    		Steve Peters
    

    
    Well I for one will be very grateful to have all of these available
    online.  I don't have very many fish disks at home( 2-3), but I
    would be willing to upload them if you provide the process to do
    so.  Maybe if we pull together on this it wouldn't be so much of
    a workload on Steve Peters.
    
    regards,
    steve mcafee

    I have FISH disks at home to, and I would also be willing to upload
    them.  (MY FISH: 12,44,47,50,86,87,88,89,90- incomplete list)
    		-Paul Wisner

    Another one here! I have a few of the early ones and just about
    everything from 80 through 101. I'll get a complete list and post.
    Let me know which you'd like me to do. (anyone ever do a network
    impact study on the load we put on the Easynet? :^)  
    
    					Jim
    

    Glad to see ther is a lot of interest in helping on this...Once
    we try it out for a while, we can divy-up the work if necessary...
    Although a smart command file, and an overnight run can D/L quite
    a few bytes at 2400 baud...(What's that you say, you don't have
    a 2400 baud modem!  ;-)
    
    By the way, I'm glad to provide this as a testing machine...we here
    at SHR may look into other possibilities if it "bogs down", but
    I don't see it happening soon....
    
    as for other than the fish items, let me know, and I'll "stash"
    them away there too....
    
    scott.
    

I have FF 20,35,75,79,80 and am willing to load if there is interest.

	Paul

    I have ff 38,55 too. You can have mine also..
    
    I would also like to thank everyone that inputs data into notes.
    I have only had my machine for awhile and am slowly learning, and
    feeling comfortable with it.  I would like to thank all the guru's
    out there with the free information and the "learning,playing
    programs"that people have in their areas.. Ps I am also very new
    to notes..
    
    In response to MacDonalds beef of loading down his machine, I can
    understand his concern, but did I read between the lines, that he
    is upset for getting into his public area..
    
    Just what is the purpose of Notes, and why do people have the public
    areas??  I think that we tend to forget that all of us do not hear
    the "same beat of the drum." What is the proper proceedure for
    accessing these areas??

    Steve, what about posting you're program / procedure to upload
    Fish disks ?
    If it works unattended ( that's what I was trying to do using the
    Tracker/Compress approach) I'll be glad to upload FF1->35 at 9600bps
    and then copy them into your directory ( don't have disk space here :-(
    
    marco

    Hi there over the ocean
    As I get the famous no privileges for attempted operation message
    when trying to access to ff101 or ff102 directories,I wonder if
    I have to subcribe somewhere to gain acces to these,or if the mistake
    is of your side.Please tell me so as FF disks are almost impossible
    to be obtainabled here in Europe....
    Thanx	Phil

    I tried to build up FF102 using A500, 512K, 1 floppy.
    Sorry, no way ( to do it all).
    I DLL'd all the files on a disk  X:
    I prepared an empty  FF102:
    In RAM: there is not enough space for ARC DBUG.ARC ( with ARC running,
    	you always get error 103 - Not enough memory).
    I did ARC E DBUG BUILD on the X: disk and then moved in ram:
    BUILD DBUG.ARC FF102: and tried again. No way ( 103 strikes again!)
    WARNING:  Do not use
    	BUILD xxx.ARC DF0:   Amigados may be confused of which DF0:
    you're talking about ( couldn't be the WB ???)
    I tried then to do it with SILICON.ARC ( the smaller file ).
    It works, but it painfull .... UNLESS you move to ram: the following
    commands:
     execute - arc - echo - copy - delete - if - endif - makedir
    Would be nice to use a SHELL ( 207m ?? ) but if you :
      Source build ff102:
    but it do not understand .KEY .
    With all the commands in RAM: ( they fit ) it works like a charm.
    I don't care to much, I got also a A2000 with .. you name it , I
    got it... but I was thinking of others . 
    The way you did it is the best to DLL a SINGLE piece, but for the
    whole disk makes some problem for miniA500. I think I'll go back
    to work on Tracker/Compress.
    But , PLEASEEeeee, let's do both way ( if someone can supply disk
    space .. :-)
    marco.

    
    
    	Thanks for all wanting to help. My system to upload the FF disks
    needs a little work. I plan to improve the system to night and I
    will post the tools and instructions for all who want to help. 
    
    	For ALL who would like to help.............
    PLEASE send mail to MVCAD3::AMIGA and list the disks who have. I
    will try and avoid dupicate disks.
    
    
    	Thank you Marco Zabot. This is the kind of feedback I need to
    make the system better. I will work on the problems.
    
    
    		Steve Peters
    

    If someone want to try it, I've Uploaded Fish#35.
    It's located in directory:

       	cesare::$1$dua8:[user0_1.zabot.amiga.fish35]
    
    You'll find there files F0.Z - F5.Z -..- F75.Z
    Each file represent 5 tracks ( f0.z= 0-4 ; f5.z = 5-9 ...f75.z=75-79).
    Once you got them on amiga put a file at a time in RAM: ( or all
    toghether on DF1: if you have df1: !) and then:
    
    	COMPRESS Fxx.Z		---> will create F0 on you cd
    
    	TRACKER WRITE Fxx	---> will write tracks xx-xx+4 onto DF0:
    
    repeat 20 times ( once for each file).
    If you need TRACKER it is on fish disk 35 ( egg and chicker story... :-)
	
    No, just joking. Both tracker and COmpress can be found on the same
    directory.
    
    marco

    re .10: Fish disks are readily available in Germany at least. Several
    'PD software services' offer them, prices range from 5-8 DM each
    depending on the agency and quantity (some only sell packages so
    you buy e.f. FF1-30 in one package). (The price includes the blank
    floppy of course).
    
    I don't know if they'd deliver to Switzerland but you might want
    to as. Pick up a copy of 6800er if you can find one over there.
    

    I am very happy with the way you have organized the FF directory.
    I like not having to copy an entire Fish Disk just to get one  or
    two programs from it.

    
    
    	Fred Fish disks 94-102 are now on MVCAD3:: . I have been
    uploading them from newest to oldest. If anyone has a disk they
    are looking for send mail to me at UNLOAD::Peters and I will
    upload it first.
    
    	See NOTE 783.0 for instructions.....
    
    
    		Steve Peters
    		Lucky it's a local call....
    
    

    I found that WBLander is missing from FF100. Could you please upload
    it ?
    
    Thanks, and keep the good work !
    
    Miguel A. Alvarez