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| 738.1 | Fixobj to strip out trailing junk | MPGS::BAEDER | | Thu Sep 24 1987 17:47 | 6 |
| re: cvtarc...Thats if you want to transfer using xmodem...the files
as they are...fixed 128, or variable 510, are the format for kermit.
as for the inability to execute th executable images...try fixobj
(I think) on an earlier fish disk to strip any trailing junk from
the end of the file...(sometimes Amy is finiky that way:-)
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| 738.2 | We need a new binary file. | HOUSE::FRACTAL | | Thu Sep 24 1987 22:17 | 13 |
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Fixhunk is not the answer. The Arc16.bin comes out to 12000 bytes
when transfered with both Kermit and Xmodem w/stripping. The problem
is that the current arc16.bin in Wecker's account has somehow been
converted to a different storage method. I know because a while
ago I used Xmodem to D/l it and it worked fine. Unfortunately, my
arc disk crashed. Ever since then I have had no luck. What we need
is somebody to re U/l arc in binary format. Not as another Arc.
(Yes Ive tried extracting arc.023, it still comes out to be 12xxx
bytes)
-ph
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| 738.3 | Ok...I did it! | MPGS::BAEDER | | Thu Sep 24 1987 23:43 | 22 |
| re: .2
Your right...I leaped before I looked....anyway, to make ammends,
uploaded a new ARC.BIN (99 blocks) in kermit format...(down loaded
it to check, and runs fine...settings on vt200 kermit transfer mode
are:
Image ON
Text OFF
Convert OFF (sometimes I forget this one!)
Should be 99 blocks...(510 byte max records)
Can be found in...
MPGS::USER3:[BAEDER.WECKER]ARC.BIN
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+--IN HONOR OF THE GREAT VT100
MASTER ...THANKS DAVE
if you have problems, let me know...
scott.
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| 738.4 | ARC.BIN == AmigaArc023 | MPGS::BAEDER | | Thu Sep 24 1987 23:45 | 4 |
| re: .3
This is arc023 form the arc file of the same name...scott
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| 738.5 | Maybe my problem wasn't with ARC.BIN | COMET::FULTON | | Fri Sep 25 1987 00:59 | 42 |
| Thanks to all who replied. I believe that I was somewhat in
error in .0. When I stated that I had successfully xferred
binary from VMS to PC-DOS to Amiga, I was only partially right.
It turns out that what I really successfully accomplished was:
VMS --> PC-DOS: SHAR file that included a .UUE
unSHARed SHAR file on PC-DOS & uudecoded .UUE on PC-DOS
Kermited resulting binary (which happened to be unshar)
to Amiga, and it ran fine
After having the above sequence occur, I assumed, "Well, it
seems that I can successfully xfer binary files from PC-DOS to
Amiga, so I will just xfer a bunch of .ARC files from VMS to
PC-DOS to Amiga, xfer the binary unARC utility for the Amiga to
the Amiga, and just unARC the files on the Amiga." As I stated
in .0, that didn't work.
So, today I tried a different tack. I unARCed some files on my
PC-DOS machine (the ARC program on my PC seemed to indicate that
the .ARC file was just fine; I had no problems extracting files
from it) and xferred the resulting binaries to the Amiga. I
used the exact method of xfer that had resulted in the one
successful binary PC-DOS to Amiga xfer described above, but with
all 5 binaries I tried, I received the "Can't execute; not an
object module" error message. So, it seems that my original
statement about having confidence in my ability to xfer binaries
from VMS to PC-DOS to Amiga was wrong.
What's puzzling is that I can successfully unARC the files on my
PC and read the resulting text files (even tho CR/LF's seem to
be missing), but when I xfer binaries to the Amiga, they won't
execute (with the one exception mentioned earlier).
Note: on the Amiga, I am using C-Kermit vintage 1986, which,
according to the documentation, supports xfer of binary files
(and, as I have reiterated many times now, DID successfully do
so once). As soon as I can get Dave Wecker's VT100 package
xferred to the Amiga, I intend to use that instead.
Again, thanks for any help that can be provided.
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| 738.6 | Set file type fixed? FIXOBJ? | COMET::FULTON | | Fri Sep 25 1987 02:33 | 8 |
| After browsing thru 406.*, I now wonder about 2 things:
- should I have SET FILE TYPE FIXED instead of
SET FILE TYPE BINARY on the VAX?
- should I try using FIXOBJ on the binaries once they're
xferred? (If so, I need to know where I can get it; I
can't find it in either Wecker or Acciardi accounts.
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| 738.7 | I GIVE UP | COMET::FULTON | | Sat Sep 26 1987 09:48 | 18 |
| Well, I guess I'm going to give up on the idea of xferring
binary files VMS --> PC-DOS --> Amiga. It appears that it is
just not possible to accomplish that. I xfer binaries to and
from VMS and PC-DOS all the time with no problems; I guess
there's something "funny" about AmigaDos.
I even went as far as to get AmigArc023.ARC directly from the
author's BBS. This was BBS --> PC-DOS --> Amiga. I unARCed the
file fine on PC-DOS, then Kermited AmigArc.023 to Amiga. Guess
what: "Can't execute; file not an object module." I GIVE UP!!!
I guess if I want to get the files I am going to have to figure
out some way to break the PC-DOS --> Amiga step and go directly
to the Amiga. Unfortunately, I don't think I'll be able to do
that.
Is there nobody who has ever gone VMS --> {PC-DOS, MS-DOS on
Rainbow, CPM, or anything similar} --> Amiga with binary files?
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| 738.8 | ??? | LEDS::ACCIARDI | | Sat Sep 26 1987 22:06 | 16 |
| I can't explain why you can't xfer binary from the PC to the Amiga.
It may be that the PC is re-padding the file as it transfers to
the Amiga. In this case, FixOBJ should work.
All I can suggest is that you try to attach the Amiga to the modem
and download directly to AmigaDOS.
I have been using Dave Wecker's VT100_2.6 with Kermit with 100%
success. I have had occasional problems with Xmodem though.
If you are in a Catch-22 in terms of getting ARC and VT100 to your
Amiga, I will be glad to send you a disk; I can also copy to your
directory the version of VAX Kermit that I have been using.
Ed Acciardi
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| 738.9 | | ECCD31::JAERVINEN | Too much not�ng makes you �l�� | Mon Sep 28 1987 04:58 | 2 |
| It works fine for Rainbow MS-DOS for me (see note 322).
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| 738.10 | WORKS FOR ME!? | POLAR::GOSLING | KANATA MFG I.S. | Mon Sep 28 1987 08:53 | 13 |
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re: .7
I can't figure what you are doing wrong, unless I am missing
something.
I have created 1-2-3 files on the Rainbow, kermited them to the
VAX and then kermited to my AMIGA for use with VIP Professional -
no problem! I have also done the reverse operation - no problem!
Art
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| 738.11 | Thanks for suggestions; still working on problem | DONNER::FULTON | | Mon Sep 28 1987 13:14 | 20 |
| Re: .10 -
In your xfers, were you xferring binary or text files? I can
successfully xfer text files VMS--> PC-DOS --> Amiga all day
long; it's binary files that come out AFU ("...; Not a Object
Module.").
What's really interesting is that when I have the Amiga binaries
on my PC-DOS machine, I can use a utility that allows me to
browse thru binary files and see much readable ASCII included in
the binary file (for example, I can see the ARC menu in
AmigArc.023). I've looked at the end of the binary to see if
there's any obvious "junk" at the end of the file; I can't
detect any (but then I'm not at all familiar with Amiga binary
file structure).
Maybe my problem is the Kermit I'm using on the Amiga. I'm
using the old (1986) Amiga C-Kermit from
MKTUP1::KERMIT:CKIKER*.*. As soon as I can get VT100_26 xferred
to the Amiga, I intend to start using that.
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| 738.12 | | POLAR::GOSLING | KANATA MFG I.S. | Mon Sep 28 1987 14:04 | 14 |
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re: .11
I'm talking "put-your-screen-into-graphics-mode-if-you-TYPE-them"
binaries, ie: Lotus 1-2-3 xxxx.wks files.
I have been using DBW's VT100 since day one, using Kermit as the
transfer protocol. Simply "set file type binary" on the VAX side
and use "image" mode on the AMIGA side and away we go.
Art
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