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Conference csc32::consolemanager

Title:POLYCENTER Console Manager
Notice:Kits, Scans, Docs on CSC32:: as PCM$KITS:,PCM$DOCS:, PCM$SCANS:
Moderator:CSC32::BUTTERWORTH
Created:Thu Aug 06 1992
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1541
Total number of notes:6564

1401.0. "console managing the console manager node!?" by COMICS::HAWLEYI (668 - the neighbour of the beast!) Mon Oct 07 1996 05:26

Hi,

quick question, can console manager be used to manage the console manager node?
I know it sounds daft, but I actually have a customer who wishes to do this!

Ive tried a lat based setup and a telnet based setup but console connects dont
seem to bring up the login prompt and no events are being logged (cabling gets
complicated). I guess I could theoretically use pseudoterminals to do this?

If it cant be done then I wont carry on trying, alternatively, my setup could be
wrong.

by the way, this is V1.6-308 (shiny and new) on Dunix V3.2c.


Thanks,

Ian.
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1401.1go for two PCM systemsVELI::KORKKOVeli K�rkk� @FNO, 879-5512, GPS FNOMon Oct 07 1996 11:2518
        Technically speaking, there should not be any problems with a
        PCM system monitoring itself. Just connect the console to a
        terminal server and set it up as usual.
        
        However, there are plenty of reasons not to do this. First and
        foremost, the inevitable will take place sooner or later and
        this inevitable is:
        
        Someone is using PCM. Decides e.q. to shutdown a system, in this
        unfortunately the PCM system.
        
        Now, how does (s)he recover? Assume that (s)he might be e.q.
        100km away using the PCM system over a mobile connection.
        
        If there is need for PCM management of a PCM system, I'd really
        go for TWO PCM systems each managing each other.
        
        _veli
1401.2CSC32::BUTTERWORTHGun Control is a steady hand.Tue Oct 08 1996 12:4811
    -1 said it perfectly. I have always advised people not to do this. The
    solution, as -1 stated, is to have another node running PCM. You can
    also have the two PCM engines monitoring each other.
    
    Now, there is nothing wrong with having the PCM engine "monitoring"
    itself using one of the local async ports. The difference is this port
    is just a terminal port and not the actual console port. You could
    direct most software generated "console" messages to this port. 
    
    REgs,
      Dan