Conference csc32::consolemanager

Ren�

  I just logged on to PCMSVR:: and did the following so I dont think
  there is a problem here...

$ back/list CONSOLEECO1016.b/save
Listing of save set(s)

Save set:          CONSOLEECO1016.B
Written by:        SYSTEM
UIC:               [000001,000004]
Date:              21-JUL-1995 12:14:05.41
Command:           BACKUP/NOASSIST/NODISMOUNT/COMMENT=VAX/VMS SPKITBLD Procedure
/INTER/LOG/VERIFY DISK$V16_ECO1:[ECO1.SAVESET_B]*.* DISK$V16_ECO1:[ECO1.SSB]CONS
OLEECO1016.B/LABEL=(CONSOLEECO1)/SAVE/BLOCK=9000/GROUP=25/NOINIT/NOREWI
Operating system:  OpenVMS VAX version V6.1
BACKUP version:    V6.1
CPU ID register:   0B000006
Node name:         _OMS1::
Written on:        _$1$DUA23:
Block size:        9216
Group size:        25
Buffer count:      1761

[ECO1.SAVESET_B]CONSOLE$ARCHIVE.EXE;1                     287  21-JUL-1995 10:08
[ECO1.SAVESET_B]CONSOLE$BROADCAST.EXE;1                   245  21-JUL-1995 09:53
[ECO1.SAVESET_B]CONSOLE$C3.EXE;1                          768  21-JUL-1995 11:00
[ECO1.SAVESET_B]CONSOLE$C3.GB_UID;1                       520  21-JUL-1995 11:30
[ECO1.SAVESET_B]CONSOLE$C3.UID;1                          520  21-JUL-1995 11:30
[ECO1.SAVESET_B]CONSOLE$CONMON.EXE;1                      422  21-JUL-1995 10:03
[ECO1.SAVESET_B]CONSOLE$CONTROL.EXE;1                     254  21-JUL-1995 10:04
[ECO1.SAVESET_B]CONSOLE$DAEMON.EXE;1                      427  21-JUL-1995 09:18
[ECO1.SAVESET_B]CONSOLE$DIALOG.EXE;1                      262  21-JUL-1995 10:11
[ECO1.SAVESET_B]CONSOLE$EDITCC.EXE;1                      450  21-JUL-1995 09:51
[ECO1.SAVESET_B]CONSOLE$EDITM.EXE;1                       569  21-JUL-1995 09:50
[ECO1.SAVESET_B]CONSOLE$EDITM.GB_UID;1                    592  21-JUL-1995 11:30
[ECO1.SAVESET_B]CONSOLE$EDITM.UID;1                       592  21-JUL-1995 11:30
[ECO1.SAVESET_B]CONSOLE$ENS_DAEMON.EXE;1                  313  21-JUL-1995 09:19
[ECO1.SAVESET_B]CONSOLE$EVENTLIST.EXE;1                   499  21-JUL-1995 10:01
[ECO1.SAVESET_B]CONSOLE$EVENTLIST.GB_UID;1                168  21-JUL-1995 11:30
[ECO1.SAVESET_B]CONSOLE$EVENTLIST.UID;1                   168  21-JUL-1995 11:30
[ECO1.SAVESET_B]CONSOLE$EVENTSINGLE.EXE;1                  44  21-JUL-1995 09:55
[ECO1.SAVESET_B]CONSOLE$EXTRACT.EXE;1                     270  21-JUL-1995 10:10
[ECO1.SAVESET_B]CONSOLE$HISTORY.GB_UID;1                   32  21-JUL-1995 11:30
[ECO1.SAVESET_B]CONSOLE$HISTORY.UID;1                      32  21-JUL-1995 11:30
[ECO1.SAVESET_B]CONSOLE$LIB.OLB;1                         590  21-JUL-1995 08:53
[ECO1.SAVESET_B]CONSOLE$STATUS.EXE;1                      336  21-JUL-1995 10:05
[ECO1.SAVESET_B]CONSOLE$VERIFY.EXE;1                      278  21-JUL-1995 10:12
[ECO1.SAVESET_B]CONSOLE$WATCH.EXE;1                       265  21-JUL-1995 10:06

Total of 25 files, 8903 blocks
End of save set

$back/list CONSOLEECO1016.c/save
Listing of save set(s)

Save set:          CONSOLEECO1016.C
Written by:        SYSTEM
UIC:               [000001,000004]
Date:              21-JUL-1995 12:15:31.92
Command:           BACKUP/NOASSIST/NODISMOUNT/COMMENT=VAX/VMS SPKITBLD Procedure
/INTER/LOG/VERIFY DISK$V16_ECO1:[ECO1.SAVESET_C]*.* DISK$V16_ECO1:[ECO1.SSB]CONS
OLEECO1016.C/LABEL=(CONSOLEECO1)/SAVE/BLOCK=9000/GROUP=25/NOINIT/NOREWI
Operating system:  OpenVMS VAX version V6.1
BACKUP version:    V6.1
CPU ID register:   0B000006
Node name:         _OMS1::
Written on:        _$1$DUA23:
Block size:        9216
Group size:        25
Buffer count:      1761

[ECO1.SAVESET_C]CONSOLE$ARCHIVE.EXE;1                     560  21-JUL-1995 09:08
[ECO1.SAVESET_C]CONSOLE$BROADCAST.EXE;1                   484  21-JUL-1995 09:04
[ECO1.SAVESET_C]CONSOLE$C3.EXE;1                         1396  21-JUL-1995 09:20
[ECO1.SAVESET_C]CONSOLE$C3.GB_UID;1                       520  21-JUL-1995 11:43
[ECO1.SAVESET_C]CONSOLE$C3.UID;1                          520  21-JUL-1995 11:43
[ECO1.SAVESET_C]CONSOLE$CONMON.EXE;1                      769  21-JUL-1995 09:06
[ECO1.SAVESET_C]CONSOLE$CONTROL.EXE;1                     505  21-JUL-1995 09:07
[ECO1.SAVESET_C]CONSOLE$DAEMON.EXE;1                      771  21-JUL-1995 08:56
[ECO1.SAVESET_C]CONSOLE$DIALOG.EXE;1                      523  21-JUL-1995 09:09
[ECO1.SAVESET_C]CONSOLE$EDITCC.EXE;1                      833  21-JUL-1995 09:03
[ECO1.SAVESET_C]CONSOLE$EDITM.EXE;1                       954  21-JUL-1995 09:03
[ECO1.SAVESET_C]CONSOLE$EDITM.GB_UID;1                    592  21-JUL-1995 11:43
[ECO1.SAVESET_C]CONSOLE$EDITM.UID;1                       592  21-JUL-1995 11:43
[ECO1.SAVESET_C]CONSOLE$ENS_DAEMON.EXE;1                  586  21-JUL-1995 08:57
[ECO1.SAVESET_C]CONSOLE$EVENTLIST.EXE;1                   881  21-JUL-1995 09:06
[ECO1.SAVESET_C]CONSOLE$EVENTLIST.GB_UID;1                168  21-JUL-1995 11:43
[ECO1.SAVESET_C]CONSOLE$EVENTLIST.UID;1                   168  21-JUL-1995 11:43
[ECO1.SAVESET_C]CONSOLE$EVENTSINGLE.EXE;1                  61  21-JUL-1995 09:04
[ECO1.SAVESET_C]CONSOLE$EXTRACT.EXE;1                     531  21-JUL-1995 09:08
[ECO1.SAVESET_C]CONSOLE$HISTORY.GB_UID;1                   32  21-JUL-1995 11:43
[ECO1.SAVESET_C]CONSOLE$HISTORY.UID;1                      32  21-JUL-1995 11:43
[ECO1.SAVESET_C]CONSOLE$LIB.OLB;1                        1986  21-JUL-1995 08:49
[ECO1.SAVESET_C]CONSOLE$STATUS.EXE;1                      632  21-JUL-1995 09:07
[ECO1.SAVESET_C]CONSOLE$VERIFY.EXE;1                      535  21-JUL-1995 09:09
[ECO1.SAVESET_C]CONSOLE$WATCH.EXE;1                       525  21-JUL-1995 09:07

Total of 25 files, 15156 blocks
End of save set

$

    Now I also have the same problem with the *.ps and DCROSF161.tar
    
    COPY PCMSVR::DISK$PCM:[PCM]DCROSF161.TAR *.*
    %FTSV-E-READERR, error reading PCMSVR::DISK$PCM:[PCM]DCROSF161.TAR;1
    -RMS-F-RER, file read error
    -SYSTEM-F-CTRLERR, fatal controller error
    
    COPY PCMSVR::DISK$PCM1:[PCM]CONSOLE_V16.PS,PCM_V16_COVER_LETTER.PS,PCM_V
    16_INSTALL.PS,PCM_V16_RELEASE.PS USER:[KUOCH]
    %FTSV-E-READERR, error reading PCMSVR::DISK$PCM1:[PCM]CONSOLE_V16.PS;1
    -RMS-F-RER, file read error
    -SYSTEM-F-CTRLERR, fatal controller error
    
Regards.
Cheu.
    

    Phil,
      I have received the same problems when trying to copy. It may be the
    datalink itself that is causing the fatal controller error.
    
    Regs,
      Dan

Hello,

I still cannot copy the files. What wonders me is that 
the error always occurs after the same amount of blocks	
for every different file. Console*.ps after 10880 blocks
every time I tried (5 times from different systems.)
but saveset B always breaks up 
after 2624 blocks. I don't think it is some quota problem
at this side, since I assume that the problem would then 
occur after 'about' the same number of blocks for any file.
I received the B and C saveset via another contact on the
net, but he did not have the PS file, and could not copy it!!!

Can somebody maybe copy this file to our cluster.
UTRTSC:: (def decnet). That would be of great help.


Thanks in advance. 
Ren�.

P.S. Who solves the problem?

    Hello,
    
    I have exactly the same problems, I always get fatal controller error
    on the same file as .4
    Please check your DISK$PCM. An ANAL/DISK/READ of DISK$PCM will
    certainly show you the error.
    
    Joerg

    
    Same here.  Below is the error I get using FTSV on the .B and .C
    savesets
    
    %FTSV-E-READERR, error reading 13050::DISK$PCM:[PCM]CONSOLEECO1016.B;2
    -RMS-F-RER, file read error
    -SYSTEM-F-CTRLERR, fatal controller error
    
    Time to restore from backup I think!
    
    Tony Parsons,
    Sydney CSC

    Does anyone know who I can mail or phone to try and get this problem
    sorted?
    
    I'm still getting:-
                                             
    %FTSV-E-READERR, error reading PCMSVR::DISK$PCM:[PCM]CONSOLE016.C;1
    -RMS-F-RER, file read error
    -SYSTEM-F-CTRLERR, fatal controller error
    
    -Paul

    Is there anybody there?
    
    Show Mod
    
     Moderator        Access              Mail Address          Privileges
     Phil Baxter      MRJINX::PHILIP,                             [MKW]
                      MUTLEY::PHILIP,
                      OPG::PHILIP,
                      PBUNIX::PGB,
                      PGBPC::PGB,
                      YOSSAM::PHILIP
     Simon Jackson    OPG::SIMON,                                 [MKW]
                      ZEDAR::SIMON
     End of requested listing
    
    -Paul

    Folks,
       Until someone can fix the problem on PCMSVR, I have made the kits
    available via the following path:
    
    CSC32::DUMPS:[BUTTERWORTH.V16_ECO1]
    
    
    Regards,
       Dan

    Thanks, Dan, its good to know that you haven't given up on PCM!
    
    -Paul

From:   GENRAL::SPRAYCAR     "ESS at CXO1, 548.2025"
To:     ZENDIA::POIRIER
CC:     SPRAYCAR
Subj:   file copy problems on PCMSVR

There are currently problems copying the PCM kit & doc. files
from PCMSVR.  From experimentation & notesfile entries 897.*, it
seems to be a network-related problem.  There was no answer from
anyone on your end in the notesfile, so I thought I'd try you.  I
found your name in the Easynet node registration database.

Feel free to reply to me or in the notesfile.

Regards,

Rick

Talked to the system manager for PCMSVR, there are disk errors.

Rick

>   Folks,
>       Until someone can fix the problem on PCMSVR, I have made the kits
>    available via the following path:
>    
>    CSC32::DUMPS:[BUTTERWORTH.V16_ECO1]
>    
>    
>    Regards,
>       Dan


Dan!

Hi!

Are there OSF/ Digital Unix kits there too?

Any chance of a nice ftp address/location?


Cheers

Jo 
(UK CSC PCM unix bod)

    Jo, 
      I don't have a backdoor to those kits. I wish I could help you out
    
    RE: All
    
    I have also placed the OpenVMS V1.6 kit in the same place as the ECO.
    
    Again, the path is
    
    DUMPS:[BUTTERWORTH.V16_ECO1]
    
    Regards,
      Dan

    
    Dan,
    
    Any chance of the V1.6 docs being placed in your directory as well?
    
    Thanks,
    
    Tony Parsons,
    Sydney CSC

Hy,

        Could someone put the CM 1.6 documentation (.PS) on the Net. or on
        EMOV02:: (DECnet:47.641/IP:16.189.32.74).

Thanks a lot,
Thierry Willay
FMS     France

    Folks,
       I don't have the .PS files locally. Sorry! PCMSVR is located in
    the Taylor St. facility and I sent mail to Rae Collier asking her to
    have someone work on the file access problems.
    
    Regards,
       Danm

Have we any progress on the lack of docs or unix kits yet?

I could seriously do with getting some 1.6 docs for unix!

We have a local copy of the OSF/1 kit V1.6 if anyone else needs it:

rlogin decuk
login: spc
passwd: spcspc (if it asks for one - which I don't think it will) 

Option 4 to extract a kit 

SPC id for the kit is 21814 and it'll even mail or disk copy it to you 
nice and neatly with a README etc... 




 

    Folks,
       I have got a copy of at least the user guide in
    
    CSC32::DUMPS:[BUTTERWORTH.PCM]
    
    I renamed the V16_ECO1.DIR to PCM.DIR to make it more generic. The
    OpenVMS kits and ECO are there as well. Thanks to Rae Collier for
    getting the User Guide to me. Note the User Guide is generic to *all*
    hardware/OS platforms.
    
    I accessed PCMSVR and have determined that the SCSI controller on the
    system is faulty. Rae is letting the system manager know.
    
    Regards,
       Dan

    I now have the Digital Unix kits. Kits for all platforms and docs may be 
    found in
    
    CSC32::DUMPS:[BUTTERWORTH.PCM] 
    
    NOTE NOTE NOTE - There are no Ultrix kits for 1.6 and all documentation
    is generic to all platforms.
    
    
    Regs,
      Dan

    Dan,
    
       Does it make sense to have the kits in 2 locations? PCMSRV has the 
    kits and doc set as outlined in the notes banner.
    
    Cheers,
    
       Dave

>    Does it make sense to have the kits in 2 locations? PCMSRV has the 
>    kits and doc set as outlined in the notes banner.

Unless you want to support a product without kits every time a 
disk goes dodgy or someone reboots a machine or ftp access or decnet 
have a problem then it makes an immense amount of sense to me!

Thanks for the help Dan, I'll drop copies into tyguer as well 
for UK access (not that I don't trust our networks or anything :-) 
might as well save cross pond traffic where we can eh... 

Incidentally is csc32 accessible by both decnet and ftp? 

It's just I've tried dls-ing a few times this morning and 
although it could be our blasted network filtering here in 
Viables, I keep getting 

dls: directory list failed, Connect failed, no response from object

    Dave,
      You may have missed the notes string about the problems copying from
    PCMSVR. That system is having SCSI controller problems and several
    of a the savesets are/were inaccessible. I know that parts were ordered
    so as soon as it's straightened out we can use PCMSVR again.
    
    Regs,
      Dan

    Dan, 
    
       The system manager has moved the kit sources onto another disk.
    However, I think the doc set is on the flakey disk. He did state that
    he was going to move them as well.
    
    Dave

    Thanks for the update Dave! I did not know this had been done.
    
    Regards,
      Da