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| 995.1 | "It don't come easy"  -George Harrison | MBALDY::LANGSTON | The secret is strong ears. | Tue Sep 24 1991 21:30 | 35 | 
|  | Re:
�        2.  If customer is willing to write task-to-task programs for access,
�            what communication products are required ?
From SPD 26.88.06, for 
DECnet/SNA VMS APPC/LU6.2 Programming Interface V2.2:
      The DECnet/SNA VMS Advanced Program-to-Program Communica-
      tions/LU6.2 Programming Interface (APPC) is a layered software
      product that allows user-written applications running on suit-
      ably configured VMS systems either within a DECnet network or
      running VMS/SNA software to exchange messages with cooperating
      applications in an IBM[R] host. The APPC software exists in the
      VMS system as a shareable image. Access between the cooperating
      Digital and IBM applications is via the DECnet/SNA Gateway or
      VMS/SNA software.
      The APPC product is a set of subroutines which are called by
      VMS programs which act as Logical Unit 6.2 (LU6.2) transaction
      application programs. These subroutines allow a VMS transaction
      application to:
   
      o  Activate and deactivate sessions
      o  Allocate and deallocate LU6.2 basic and mapped conversations
      o  Send and receive data
      o  Request confirmation and confirm transactions
      o  Send and receive error information
      o  Define and delete local LU names and TP names
      o  Supply program initialization parameters
      o  Supply session-level security and inbound conversation level
�        3.  Do we have any tested sites for these databases access ?
We have used APPC/LU6.2 to access AS/400 and S/38.
Bruce
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| 995.2 | Natural/Rdb ? | NOT003::DENTI | Ian Dent @NOT, Nottingham, UK | Wed Sep 25 1991 14:22 | 12 | 
|  |     To allow access to both Rdb/VMS data and IBM Adabas data or to provide
    a transfer method from Adabas on the IBM to Rdb/VMS you could consider
    using Natural.
    
    This will run on the Vax and communicate with the IBM via a product
    called Net-work from Software AG. This uses LU6.2 as a communication
    protocol.
    
    A Natural program on the Vax can read from an IBM Adabas file and
    write the data to a Rdb/VMS table (or vice versa).
    
    Ian
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| 995.3 | What operating system is used on the two IBM systems? | BROKE::THOMAS | Anne Thomas DTN 264-6094 | Mon Oct 07 1991 22:35 | 13 | 
|  | Whenever asking about interoperability to IBM systems it's very important
that you identify the IBM environment that you're working with.  For 
example, Adabas runs on MVS, VM, and DOS/VSE systems.  SQL/DS runs on 
VM and DOS/VSE systems.  The applications can run under CICS, TSO, 
IMS-DC, CMS, or a number of other environments.  I can't tell you what
solutions are available until I know more about the IBM environments.
Also, what level of interoperability is required?  Do they need to be 
able to directly access (read and write) data in place on the IBM systems
or can they look at snapshot data which is downloaded to the VAX?
If the customer uses VM (as opposed to DOS/VSE) then you might be able 
to use DTF to handle all of your data transfer requirements.
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| 995.4 | Further info. on Existing DB | TAIJI::JULIACHEONG |  | Tue Oct 15 1991 11:13 | 19 | 
|  |     Sorry for the late response.  I am working on the proposal for the
    Steel and Iron opportunity in Shanghai during the past two weeks. 
    Access to Easynet is quite difficult from there.  
    
    Thank you for the replies.  As for .-1, the customer's existing
    machines are running:
    
    IBM 4381     + MVS        + ADABAS/Natural
    IBM 4341     + DOS/VSE    + SQL/DS
    Unisys 2200  + OS 1100    + MAPPER
    
    The interoperability features that they are looking for from Rdb/VMS to
    these databases are bi-direction (interactive) read/write access.
    
    I will try to provide any additional information that you think
    appropriate.
    
    Regards.    
    Julia.
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| 995.5 | Yes you can, may be! | SIERAS::NAKAPPAN |  | Tue Oct 15 1991 19:55 | 19 | 
|  |     With regard to interoperability between Rdb/VMS and SQL/DS, I
    would suggest that you contact NOMAD/VISTA, a third-party database/4GL
    environment that according to the marketing literature claims
    transparent access from a desktop (MS/DOS) to both systems.
    
    With regard to Unisys/Mapper, there is no known interoperability
    product.  Mapper has been ported to Unix System V environments, but
    not to Risc/Ultrix.  If the investment in Mapper is not significant,
    I would propose a migration effort.  You may also want to post your
    note in FASDER::UNISYS_CONVERSION.
    
    However, there are terminal emulator products available for UNISCOPE
    protocol emulation on the VTxxx terminals to connect into the Unisys
    2200 environment.  Please see Note 21.4 of the above-referenced
    Notesfile.
    
    Hope this helps
    
    Murli
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