| Title: | DEC Rdb against the World | 
| Moderator: | HERON::GODFRIND | 
| Created: | Fri Jun 12 1987 | 
| Last Modified: | Thu Feb 23 1995 | 
| Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 | 
| Number of topics: | 1348 | 
| Total number of notes: | 5438 | 
    I gave Micheal Booths competitive presentation to a sales unit
    yesterday and it was very well received.
                                                                
    They liked the slides comparing the relative dollar cost of
    acquisition and five year COO between RDB and ORACLE but were concerned
    it was only based on a VAX platform.
    
    What they would like to see is a comparison of RDB/VAX versus
    ORACLE/SEQUENT or ORACLE/HP.
    
    Do we have such numbers? Are there plans to develop any?
              
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| 455.1 | Trying\ | NOVA::BOOTH | What am I?...An Oracle? | Fri Oct 13 1989 14:53 | 9 | 
|     I would love to do that, but it require time and research, two things
    in short supply. Sequent should be relatively easy since Oracle
    published Sequent prices in their benchmark last year. HP may be
    harder. The real issue here is for sales to force a five year COO in
    competitive situations. 
    
    But I will try to oblige as soon as I can.
    
    ---- Michael Booth
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| 455.2 | SEQUENT Performance Numbers | TROA01::NAISH | RDB4ME Paul Naish DTN 631-3352 | Mon Oct 16 1989 14:35 | 35 | 
|     Michael, I happen to be reading an internal performance report on
    the weekend which includes benchmark results for SEQUENT.
    
    The book is entitle "VAX Performance Summary: VAX 6000 Model 400,
    Volume 1, July 1989" (EE-CO270). It seems to have been published
    by the MSB Performance Analysis Group. You can try contacting Bhagyam
    Moses, Engineering Manager, Mid Range Systems, Systems Performance
    Analysis Group.
    
    In section "6.6 Sequent Competitive Performance" they list LINPACK
    results for the Sequent Balance 8000 system. The results stated
    are "The Balance 8000 is claimed to be a 5 to 7 MIP system. However,
    the perforamance under Linpack of both Balance 8000 and Balance
    21000 is even lower than the VAX 11/780 performance".
    
    The actual numbers quoted in the appendix are:
        
    					MFLOPS
    
    				Single		Double
    
    	BALANCE 8000		0.075		0.059
    	VAX 11/780		0.245		0.140
    	VAX 6210		0.639		0.433
    	VAX 6310		0.865		0.588
    	VAX 6000-400		1.680		1.180
    
    Before you say it, yea I know a Linpack test is not a good test
    related to a commerical environment but its a start.
    
    Regards
    
    Paul
    
        	
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| 455.3 | Whoa! | CLYPPR::BOOTH | What am I?...An Oracle? | Mon Oct 16 1989 14:58 | 5 | 
|     the first problem is that these results are Sequent Balance and the
    database work is being done on Sequent Symmetry. These are two very
    different systems.
    
    ---- Michael Booth
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