| T.R | Title | User | Personal
Name | Date | Lines |
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| 268.1 | A very painful laugh | COOKIE::BERENSON | VAX Rdb/VMS Veteran | Mon Dec 12 1988 17:53 | 7 |
| Sigh, that's what you get when the engineering groups that produce those
pieces have a Sr. VP (Jack Smith) as their first common manager, and the
marketing folks would rather push FOCUS, POWERHOUSE, etc. than Digital's
own products.
I think you'll see that level of integration about the same time that
IBM pulls out of the mainframe market.
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| 268.2 | No document, but some demos | CREDIT::FOLDEVI | | Mon Dec 12 1988 22:27 | 17 |
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The Integrated Information Architecture demo that was initiated
for the announcement activities this summer had the intention to
show this integration. The demo idea was to provide a live demo
platform that offers a "real world" computing environment where the
users use MAIL, All-in-1, Teamdata, Datatrieve, RALLY, Data Distributor,
VIDA, and SQL/RDO, but also ACMS/Rdb, VAXlink and DECintact. The
link between all these products/demo modules are VAX Rdb/VMS. For
instance, there is one database called the IDW, for Integrated Data
Warehouse.
The demo is not fully implemented and integrated yet but in the
ACTs you should be able to run at least parts of the whole thing.
Maybe that would be helpful.
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| 268.3 | Early days in the big marketplace? | SNOC01::ANDERSONK | My DEBIT/CREDIT performance is lousy | Wed Dec 14 1988 04:12 | 18 |
| re: .2 If I was in or near an ACT then that would be great. What
I was looking for was the kind of thing where I say to customer,
read section 3.1 "VAX Information Architecture Integration with
Other Layered Products". Something printed.
I fear our long term viability, if we dont have a grand game plan
(an applications architecture, a real one that leaves SAA behind)
which shows product groups where they should be fitting in and what
the futures are. The "Digital way" is probably far less regimented
and relies on individuals championing for their favourite causes
[like I'm doing here?].
RE: POWRHOUSE - I see QUIZ as a direct competitor to DTR
FOCUS - havent used it (yet) but I'm told it is an end-user
4GL for simple applications (we dont have one of those in that
style)
I'll mention this to Michael Booth.
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| 268.4 | A Mission statement of our view of the world? | SNOC01::ANDERSONK | My DEBIT/CREDIT performance is lousy | Wed Dec 14 1988 04:31 | 35 |
| I may appear to be overly cynical. I have no doubt that DBS has
a sophisticated long range plan - I'm just thinking that maybe there
should be another set of plans that layers onto DBS, VMS, DECnet,
etc., and that part of this should be visible to customers as a
formalised 'architecture'. We have some bits of it now, and some
of it is very well integrated, but not all:
presentation: DECwindows, VAXforms,
application, office, etc:
(3GL,4GL,5GL?) CASE:
Enduser:
Languages:
Documents
database:
compound document storage
integrated telephony
object orientated technology
dbms's:
DSRI:
OP. SYS:
VMS
Ultrix/OSF
RISC?
networking:
DSA:
and possibley across of this you have the IEEE and others of the world
trying to push OSI architectures all the way up, OSF archiecture
up and down (and sideways, and..), SAA in
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| 268.5 | Already being thrashed out | SNOC01::ANDERSONK | My DEBIT/CREDIT performance is lousy | Wed Dec 21 1988 23:27 | 5 |
| Saw a pointer in another Notes file (Marketing?) to
PIPE::AIA$INFO:AIA_BOOKLET.PS, .LN03 which is an introduction to
Application Integration Architecture (a preliminary document, and
very company confidential). This addresses some of the concerns
I expresses in .4
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