| Title: | Online Bookbuilding |
| Notice: | This conference is write-locked: see note 1.3. |
| Moderator: | VAXUUM::UTT |
| Created: | Fri Aug 12 1988 |
| Last Modified: | Mon Jul 15 1991 |
| Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
| Number of topics: | 440 |
| Total number of notes: | 2134 |
Hi,
One of our writers tested his book with the ONLINE doctype recently.
He had several comments that might seemed appropriate for this forum.
(Note: we are using VMS V5.1-T2 and DECwindows FT2.1.)
o First, a stylistic issue: footnote numbers are unusually large.
When they appear in the middle of a paragraph they tend to crowd
the lines above them.
o The ONLINE doctype inserted extra blank lines into one of the
formal figures. (The figure is coded with <FIGURE> and
<CODE_EXAMPLE>.) I can't tell for sure, but the blank lines
may be the result of some interaction between ONLINE and
the <FIGURE_ATTRIBUTES>(MULTIPAGE) and <VALID_BREAK> tags.
I will add the source code for the offending figure in a reply
to this note.
o The same figure illustrates another problem which is more of
an annoyance than a bug. When the user asks to see a formal
figure, the bookreader creates a window based on the size of
the figure. Unlike the text window, the figure window does not
have a horizontal scroll bar. (This is probably because the
bookreader knows it has created the window to match the figure
size.) However, if the figure has a long title (as in the
previous example), the title does *not* fit in the window and
the only way to see the full title is to expand the window.
The annoyance is that there is no indicator (such as a scroll bar)
to tell the user that he or she is not seeing the full title.
As a wishlist item for a future version, the bookreader may
want to consider the size of both the figure and its title when
selecting a window size, or use a horizontal scroll bar.
Thanks,
--Andrew
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| 37.1 | Here is the figure: blank lines follow "STEP4F" | CRAYON::GENT | There is no poetry without madness -- Democritus | Wed Dec 07 1988 09:27 | 90 |
<figure>(Installation Tape Format for VIDA/CICS for DB2\installation_tape_format)
<figure_attributes>(multipage)
<code_example>
File 1 SMPMCS
<valid_break>
File 2 JCLIN
<valid_break>
File 3 OBJECT MODULES
maincics
$s
core
comm
db2
msgmgnt
csrmgnt
metr
metq
@msgs
vidailog
acsr
<valid_break>
File 4 DBRMs
dbrmdb2
dbrmmetq
dbrmacsr
<valid_break>
File 5 SOURCE MODULES
metqjob
<valid_break>
File 6 SAMPLE INSTALLATION JOB STEPS
STEP2C
STEP2D
STEP2E
STEP2F
STEP2G
STEP2H
STEP2I
STEP3A
STEP3B
STEP3C
STEP3D
STEP3E
STEP3F
STEP3G
STEP4A
STEP4B
STEP4C
STEP4D
STEP4E
STEP4F
STEP4G
PRTJRNL
<valid_break>
File 7 vida.colleges
<valid_break>
File 8 vida.degrees
<valid_break>
File 9 vida.depts
<valid_break>
File 10 vida.employee
<valid_break>
File 11 vida.jobs
<valid_break>
File 12 vida.jobhist
<valid_break>
File 13 vida.salhist
<valid_break>
File 14 vida.workstat
<valid_break>
File 15 program directory
<endcode_example>
<endfigure>
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| 37.2 | CLOSET::UTT | Thu Dec 15 1988 13:54 | 18 | ||
Andrew-
1. Stylistic issue: I made these large and bold because they are
'hot' and because we currently have no way of flagging, for the
user, what is hot on the screen and what is not. So, big and bold
seemed most useful for flagging the hotspot and giving the user
a better target to aim at. This could be modified and I will look
into this in the future.
2. This is a new one. I have the source code you supplied and will
take a look at it.
3. Titles: for V1.0 of the Bookreader we cannot pass formatted text for
the title bars -- the converter extracts the title as an ASCII string
(unformatted) and passes that on to the Bookreader. This is a known
problem that we will address in a future version of the Bookreader.
Mary
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| 37.3 | titles do not scroll | STAR::KRAETSCH | NeXt Window Please | Thu Dec 15 1988 17:20 | 9 |
Mary is correct--perhaps the best way to fix the long titles is to format them. We are looking at ways to handle this better. Note that even if we gave you the scrollbars, the title is a fixed field in the window and does not scroll, so the only way to see the rest of the title is to resize the window. Another problem with long titles is that the icons created in the icon box use the topic title as a label, so long titles create LONG icons. joe | |||||
| 37.4 | VAXUUM::UTT | Tue Dec 20 1988 16:35 | 13 | ||
RE: example in note 37.1.
I extracted this file and processed it for the Bookreader but was
unable to reproduce the problem. The output was fine, no extraneous
blank lines. <valid_break> should not be (and has not been) generating
blanks lines, so I am at a loss. If you continue to note the problem,
please let me know.
The bookbuilding tools on VAXUUM are updated from the Nov-11 baselevel.
I can't think of any bug fix or change that would affect this
file, although that's a possibility (i.e., we've fixed it).
Mary
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