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| 394.1 |  | MARVIN::WARWICK | Can't you just... ? | Wed Jan 13 1993 23:30 | 7 | 
|  |     
    No specific recommendations, other than to say be careful about going
    too far the other way. If you buy a brighter cartridge and brighter
    speakers, you could end up with something unlistenable-to. Is that
    English ? 
    
    Trevor
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| 394.2 |  | TASTY::JEFFERY | The car behind is an ATOYOT | Thu Jan 14 1993 10:34 | 24 | 
|  | Hi,
I'm not necessarily looking for "brighter". My main impression
on listening to amplifiers for instance was that the Arcam Alpha
& Cyrus II had a "bright" sound, but also had loads of "crap"
in the sound.
Listening to the Onix and the Musical Fidelity A1, the sound
was a lot smoother, with just as much detail.
I've listened to friends' Hi Fi systems that have sounded
almost painfully bright, and it is a trap that I am wary of.
However, I did listen to a friends system with a Moving Coil
cartridge (can't remember the make), and, I think a Logic
Design Turntable with Musical Fidelity A100 amp, and Linn
Index speakers, and the detail on the system was incredible.
That is roughly what I am aiming for.
Mark.
P.S. The "friend" is Larry Wiltshire, ex Digital employee, and UK_AUDIO
noter!
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| 394.3 | How about sensitive speakers ? | UPROAR::WEBSTERM | any old string | Thu Jan 14 1993 13:24 | 9 | 
|  |     
    For what it's worth, I have always prefered a more up front/brightish
    sound which my system provides. Rega III with Lynn K9, Creek amp and
    sensitive (low impedence) Heybrook HB1 speakers. I took some time
    auditioning speakers before going for the HB1s which provided a good
    clear powerful sound. Also they were less than 200 (199.99). That was
    a few years ago, don't know if any shops would have a pair to try now.
    
    Cheers Mike W.
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| 394.4 | Try a K9 | LARVAE::MELTON_D |  | Mon Jan 18 1993 18:06 | 23 | 
|  | Re .0
Hi Mark,
I think it may be the cartridge itself that's causing the 
problem.  I once had a Rega II and the original cartridge was a 
Rega - I can't remember the model but it was nearly 5 years ago.  
I soon realised the the sound was rather dull and uninteresting 
so I went back to Reading HiFi (where I had bought it) who 
recommended upgrading to a Linn K9.
The upgrade went ahead and I was very pleased with the result.  
In fact the K9 survived a subsequent change of turntable and is 
still giving sterling service in the Linn Axis I have now.  The 
sound certainly stands comparison with the Arcam Alpha CD player 
I've added in the meantime.
Also, it's my understanding - admittedly based on hearsay - that 
a decent moving coil would be wasted in a Rega II, so a good 
moving magnet is probably the best answer.
Dave M.
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| 394.5 |  | FORTY2::GROOM |  | Wed Jan 20 1993 10:55 | 8 | 
|  | If you want some sensitive and slightly on the bright side speakers for
under �200 then the Celestion DL4s might be the solution.
But then they always say you should attack from the source end, afterall, if you
are happy with your CD sound - changing your speakers might highlight all
the bright sparkle from your CD box.
Alex.
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| 394.6 |  | TASTY::JEFFERY | The car behind is an ATOYOT | Wed Jan 20 1993 11:37 | 8 | 
|  | Yeah, I think the CD is OK, but the record is OK too.
The record player could be better, I feel, especially
compared to Larry Wiltshires machine.
I might go to Reading HiFi soon.
Mark Jeffery.
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| 394.7 | REGA EL8's coming soon | TASTY::JEFFERY | Children need to learn about X in school | Tue Jun 28 1994 23:18 | 44 | 
|  |     Hi,
    
    As a postscript to previous notes, I have decided to upgrade my loud
    speakers. I went to Radford HiFi in Windsor, where the salesman was
    pretty dreadful, but I did get the chance to listen to the Royd
    Floorstanding speaker �260, The REGA EL8 Floorstanding as well �298 and
    the Linn Index's �400 or so.
    
    This was played through a REGA Planar II and a �500 Naim integrated amp
    (can't remember the naim!).
    
    First of all, the Indexes were already attached, and they sounded
    pretty good. Next we tried the Royds. I'd had a quick listen to these
    at Newbury Audio, and wanted to hear more. I thought the design was
    neat, if a little flimsy looking, (oh, and I liked the sound too!)
    
    Finally I tried the EL8's.
    
    What surprised me was that I initially preferred the sound of the Royds
    over the Indexes. I think that this happens quite a lot, as I think you
    always listen harder the second time. If I had had a better salesman
    (and more time on my hands), I would have brought back the Indexes for
    another listen.
    
    Why did I like the EL8's? Well, they had a good solid sound with a nice
    tuneful bass. There is certainly a lot more warmth than my current 10
    year old (�65!) Diamond II's. I'm looking forward to listening to a lot
    of music on them.
    
    The Royds were also good, but didn't have the same solid sound that the
    REGA's had.
    
    The reason I am interested in Floor standing speakers, is that I have a
    7 month old child, who will very soon start exploring. My Diamonds sit
    on very unsafe looking old Linn Index stands, which are too big for the
    speakers. I don't like the idea of him falling on them, and by the way
    I get a new set of speakers into the bargain!
    
    Cost justification, don't ya love it!
    
    I am awaiting delivery, and will promise full update to the lurking
    note!
    
    Mark.
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| 394.8 |  | IOSG::HORSFIELD | I would confirm for the avoidance of doubt | Wed Jun 29 1994 13:29 | 12 | 
|  | >>    The reason I am interested in Floor standing speakers, is that I have a
>>    7 month old child, who will very soon start exploring. My Diamonds sit
	we constructed a zig-zag fence that goes across the end of
	the lounge. square frames, covered with thick plastic garden
	mesh. then hinged the frames together. we can take it down
	in a minute or so when we want. it's worked very well.
	
	jack 
	
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| 394.9 | Tip for owners of small speakers & grandchildren! | HLDE01::KOOI_J |  | Mon Jul 25 1994 15:28 | 20 | 
|  |     I met someone who uses Sonus Faber Electas (expensive stuff) on their
    dedicated stands and who faced the wonderfull opportunity of his
    grandchildren trippling over his beloved speakers. In order to avoid
    having to buy floorstanding speakers, he modified the cones underneath
    the speakers by taking out a small circle:
    
    \__    __/
      _|  |_
      \    /
       \ /
        V
    
    and then guiding a soldered ring that is attached to the stand through
    this circle in such a way that the ring hardly touches the cones. The
    effect of the cones is preserved, and this mounting is stable enough
    for a midsized elephant.
    
    Jelle Kooi
    
    
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| 394.10 |  | TASTY::JEFFERY | Children need to learn about X in school | Tue Jul 26 1994 11:04 | 7 | 
|  | Upgrading my speakers doesn't seem such a good idea now!
The little bugger keeps pulling the speaker grills off.
Now to teach him the meaning of the word "No!"
Mark.
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| 394.11 |  | IOSG::HORSFIELD | Deep down, you know you need VAX. | Tue Aug 02 1994 09:16 | 10 | 
|  | >>Upgrading my speakers doesn't seem such a good idea now!
>>
>>The little bugger keeps pulling the speaker grills off.
	see .8
	my eldest is now 3� and has yet to touch the isobariks.
	jack 
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