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Title:COPIS VAXination Users Conference
Notice:Please use conference ORCHRD::FMAP_USERS - see note 1.1
Moderator:ORCHRD::KIPNES
Created:Wed Jul 13 1988
Last Modified:Fri May 18 1990
Last Successful Update:Fri May 02 1997
Number of topics:171
Total number of notes:402

57.0. "Difference in Shipment numbers DEC-10/VAX" by HYEND::STAYLOR (Steve Taylor 297-4270 MRO1-1/M13) Thu Oct 13 1988 16:51


	I went into the COPIS VAX system, screen SH1, and pulled the shipment
numbers for the 2-5-2 part number SC008-AC for non-revenue shipments. The
choices I made and the results, were as follows;

                     DIGITAL CONFIDENTIAL                     Date : 11-Oct-198
            INVOICED SHIPMENTS BY 2-5-2 PART NUMBER           Page 1   of 1    
                                                                               
Part ID           :    SC008AC               Gross / Net      :   N
Month/Quarter     :  M                       District Code    :    
Begin Exec Period :  JUL-1988                Planning Group   :    
End Exec Period   :  AUG-1988                Revenue          :   N
Level             :  FA                      Fulfillment Cut  :    
Units/Dollars     :  U                       Geographic Area  :    


  Date        Units            Date         Units              Total Units

JUL-1988            26                                                  40
AUG-1988            14


	Via the DEC-10, the NRS shipments were 21 for July and 8 for August. 
I used the following on the DEC-10;

Datatype: NRS		Explosion level: FV
Part data: OP		ID [  -SC008-AC]   
Source Data: SR
Sink Data: GD
             

	Why is the data different? 
	Which one is correct? 

	Until the DEC-10 is shut down, you should put out a matrix which shows
which system (DEC-10 or VAX)to use for which Datatype for which time periods
and for how long. 

Thanks,
Steve
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57.1Identifying Revenue vs Non-RevenueCINEMX::COPUSER78Tom MalomoMon Oct 17 1988 15:5524
    Steve, although we will be replacing the DEC-10 COPIS System with
    the VAX COPIS System, all users must use the DEC-10 System as the
    "live production" System until we officially shut down the DEC-10.
    In the meantime, you should continue runnig parallel reports from
    the VAX and asking us questions as you have done. Now to answer
    your questions:
    
    Why is the data different?
    
    In terms of revenue vs non-revenue, both systems consider IEG orders
    as non-revenue. However, there are other non-revenue orders that
    are identified differently by the 2 systems. The DEC-10 treats as
    non-revenue, any line item with a Unit Price of zero. This is no
    longer the correct way to identify non-revenue. The VAX COPIS system
    uses the field called Authorization Type to determine non-revenue.
    This field came into being when OPVAX was replaced by the FOCUS
    system.
    
    Which System is correct?
    
    The VAX COPIS System has the correct logic to determine revenue
    vs non-revenue.
    
                                         Tom Malomo 269-2411
57.2Non-revenue shipment numbersHYEND::STAYLORSteve Taylor 297-4270 MRO1-1/M13Tue Oct 18 1988 10:4823
   	Tom, thanks for your help. However I'm still confused and maybe
   you can help me some more. It appears that you are saying that the DEC-10
   calculated non-revenue counts differently from the new system since the
   DEC-10 included any line item with a unit price of zero. In the Users
   Guide for the new VAX system, it states the following concerning the
   Revenue Field for the shipments screen; 

	"Only IEG is considered non-revenue"	Page III.6-1

   	"Currently, only IEG for USA and Europe will be included in the
   NON-Revenue data. Rotation and consignment data are included in the
   revenue data."	Page III.6-6 
                                    
   	If the new VAX system has only IEG data, which is the way I think
   it should be, why would the numbers from the VAX system be 30% higher
   than for the DEC-10? With the explanation in 57.2, I thought it would be
   the other way around. 
        
   Any help appreciated, 

   Steve
57.3Any More Thoughts on this?HYEND::STAYLORSteve Taylor 297-4270 MRO1-1/M13Tue Oct 25 1988 14:287
	As it has been a week, could someone please provide me with an idea
of what to expect when you cut over to the VAX exclusively. Why are the
numbers higher on the VAX for Non_revenue shipments?

Thanks,
Steve
57.4Still waitingHYEND::STAYLORSteve Taylor 297-4270 MRO1-1/M13Mon Dec 12 1988 10:2621
	As the date for the switch-over from the DEC-10 to the VAX comes
closer, I'm feeling less comfortable since no one has explained the differences
I continue to find each month on internal shipments. While internal ships are
not critical by any means, it does impact the total shipment number and more
than that, knowing the reason for the difference is important.

	While I know you are extremely busy with enhancements and solving
day-to-day problems, could you look into it? I would feel a lot more
comfortable if I knew why the systems were different. Is it only this isolated
case due to the part number?

	If the difference continues, you must be prepared to defend either the
DEC-10 number or the VAX number. As has been stated, the DEC-10 is the official
number to use until the transition to the VAX is complete. Once that happens,
we need to know which number is truly correct not just switch from one number
to another because the computer system is different.

Thanks,
Steve