| T.R | Title | User | Personal Name
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| 4802.1 |  | JULIET::MORALES_NA | Sweet Spirit's Gentle Breeze | Mon Aug 26 1996 19:46 | 4 | 
|  |     I think administratively it's an awesome way to deal with the
    elimination of paper trails.
    
    
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| 4802.2 | I don't understand the complaint | DWOMV2::CAMPBELL | MCSE in Delaware | Tue Aug 27 1996 01:28 | 4 | 
|  |     
    Ok, they automate the $30/wk.  They give you an online expense
    app.  They now pay for your gas.  Where's the beef?
    
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| 4802.3 | BTW | DWOMV2::CAMPBELL | MCSE in Delaware | Tue Aug 27 1996 01:30 | 3 | 
|  |     
    Oh, BTW, I'm on Plan B.  My usual weekly exp is from $6 - $30.
    
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| 4802.4 |  | NQOS01::s_coghill.dyo.dec.com::S_Coghill | Luke 14:28 | Tue Aug 27 1996 08:49 | 7 | 
|  | This is long overdue.  I saw this coming when
they gave us the fuel card.  They should
have been smart enough to have figured it
out when they issued them.
This is great.  It saves me the time
and expense of writing a check every week.
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| 4802.5 |  | LEXS01::GINGER | Ron Ginger | Tue Aug 27 1996 08:51 | 10 | 
|  |     Read very carefully the first part of the form. You are agreeing that the
    deduction will continue until the car is sold, returned to the
    lessor, or transfered to another driver. So, if you no longer need the
    car, but its not up for return, and there is no one in your office to
    transfer it to, it looks like you are agreeing to continue the weekly
    deduction. Could be a nastly gotcha.
    
    On the other hand, it does now make the Plan A  very painless for
    paper work. No gas bills, no checks to write, and even with all the TMS
    problems, a fairly simple reporting process.
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| 4802.6 | OK by me ... | DV780::SHAWS |  | Tue Aug 27 1996 09:39 | 4 | 
|  |     Other than the tone of the memo itself, I think it is a great idea. My
    wife could never understand why I needed to write all those $30 checks.
    
    Steve.
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| 4802.7 | I'll take that deal!!!! :-) | HSOSS1::HARDMAN | Project Enterprise | Tue Aug 27 1996 09:55 | 12 | 
|  |     >Read very carefully the first part of the form. You are agreeing that
    >the deduction will continue until the car is sold, returned to the
    >lessor, or transfered to another driver. So, if you no longer need the
    >car, but its not up for return, and there is no one in your office to
    >transfer it to, it looks like you are agreeing to continue the weekly
    >deduction. Could be a nastly gotcha.
    
    So, what's the problem? You get to keep the car, with free insurance,
    maintenance and fuel, for $30 per week! Line forms to the rear.. ;-)
    
    Harry
    
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| 4802.8 |  | DABEAN::REAUME | vintage racker | Tue Aug 27 1996 10:21 | 5 | 
|  |     
      
      I think it is a great idea, less paperwork for me. I'm still waiting
    for my "bill" due digital for past use. Even though though TMS has a lot 
    of pains associated with it's use, I see a lot of benefits. 
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| 4802.10 |  | JULIET::MORALES_NA | Sweet Spirit's Gentle Breeze | Tue Aug 27 1996 12:30 | 4 | 
|  |     .9
    
    That is a good question, my guess is that policy will change that your
    car cannot be placed on vacation status... just a guess.
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| 4802.11 | It's clearly stated on the form | DECIDE::MOFFITT |  | Tue Aug 27 1996 12:41 | 13 | 
|  | >    That is a good question, my guess is that policy will change that your
>    car cannot be placed on vacation status... just a guess.
I believe the guess is wrong. The form I have has an area to check off stating
you'll be on vacation with room for a start date and a stop date. The form
clearly states that you should FAX/send it in 2 weeks before you take vacation
The decuction will stop and restart based on the dates on your form.
Did the original person who asked the question about vacation read the form 
first?
regards,
tim m.
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| 4802.12 |  | JULIET::MORALES_NA | Sweet Spirit's Gentle Breeze | Tue Aug 27 1996 13:28 | 1 | 
|  |     Will this form be online?  
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| 4802.13 | Yes | NQOS01::s_coghill.dyo.dec.com::S_Coghill | Luke 14:28 | Tue Aug 27 1996 13:39 | 1 | 
|  | It was e-mailed to us.  Therefore, it is online.
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| 4802.14 |  | QUARK::LIONEL | Free advice is worth every cent | Tue Aug 27 1996 14:06 | 3 | 
|  | .9 deleted at author's request.
			Steve
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| 4802.15 | Complain Complain Complain! | ODIXIE::RREEVES |  | Thu Aug 29 1996 07:26 | 4 | 
|  |     It never fails to amaze me what people will complain about. I think
    this is a great idea. So what that it might be 2 days early. Anything
    which requires less paperwork on my part is great!
    
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| 4802.16 |  | CSC32::M_EVANS | watch this space | Thu Aug 29 1996 16:05 | 3 | 
|  |     When people have been skewered by new pronouncements a certain number
    of times, even changes that might be beneficial are looked at with
    trepidation.  
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| 4802.17 | vacation time | WHOS01::ELKIND | Steve Elkind, Digital SI @WHO | Thu Aug 29 1996 23:20 | 3 | 
|  |     The only gotcha on vacation time is that you have to turn the keys into
    your manager.  If you're like me, on the home alone program and
    60-someodd miles from your manager, it gets to be a small problem...
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| 4802.18 | What's your Problem? | MPOS02::SULLIVAN | Take this job and LOVE it | Fri Aug 30 1996 00:03 | 13 | 
|  | >     <<< Note 4802.17 by WHOS01::ELKIND "Steve Elkind, Digital SI @WHO" >>>
>                               -< vacation time >-
>
>    The only gotcha on vacation time is that you have to turn the keys into
>    your manager.  If you're like me, on the home alone program and
>    60-someodd miles from your manager, it gets to be a small problem...
What's your problem? Just make an extra key for your vehicle and send it to 
your manager. When your go on vacation fill out the form and send it in on 
time and tell your manager that he has keys to your vehicle and give hime
the address where it is parked. If some one needs to use it they can get it
.
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| 4802.19 | Nothing new here... | DECIDE::MOFFITT |  | Fri Aug 30 1996 10:20 | 27 | 
|  | re .-2
>    The only gotcha on vacation time is that you have to turn the keys into
>    your manager.  If you're like me, on the home alone program and
>    60-someodd miles from your manager, it gets to be a small problem...
There's no new gotcha here. Here's the policy that's been in effect since 1995:
 Fleet Policy                                            
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 Vehicle Expense Reporting/Reimbursing                 Effective: 15-Jun-1995
 Policy No. 13.0                                      
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                                                              Screen  7 of 7
  GENERAL INFORMATION Cont'd 
     H.  Examples when personal use charges may be waived:
 
         The personal use charge may be waived if the qualified user is
         absent from their normal work place for a period of time (minimum of
         at least one week) provided the vehicle is returned to the control of
         the Cost Center Manager during that period of time.
 
         The personal use charge may be waived if the assigned company car is
         in the shop for repairs for three consecutive days or longer and the
         driver is not using an "unassigned vehicle" or has been provided with
         a rental car.
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| 4802.20 | ok ok Gut reaction wrong!!! | MAASUP::TURRO | Make it so number 1 | Fri Aug 30 1996 15:38 | 9 | 
|  |     Well my first "reaction" was negative, hell I (we) have had enough
    experiences to justify that I would think. You could say it was my
    initial gut reaction.
    
    Yes the payroll deduction was a very good idea.
    
    MikeTurro
    Baltimore MCS
    
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| 4802.21 | vacation away | MAASUP::LAVELLE |  | Wed Sep 04 1996 13:48 | 6 | 
|  |     -.17
    
    As I read it, it said that if you chose to take your car on vacation
    with you, you simply do not stop the deduction.  Drive it away.  Pay
    for your own gas.  No change.
    
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