| T.R | Title | User | Personal Name
 | Date | Lines | 
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| 4694.1 | Great Timing | VFOVAX::BRAMBLETT |  | Wed Jul 03 1996 08:25 | 8 | 
|  |     
    Frank,
    
         The timing of your request is very good as we are adding partners
    into out portfolio to include secure email.  Please feel free to
    contact me and you can get further details.
    
    Linda 
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| 4694.2 | pgp has it now... | DECWET::FARLEE | Insufficient Virtual um...er.... | Wed Jul 03 1996 12:28 | 1 | 
|  | Sounds like off-the-shelf pgp functionality to me...
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| 4694.3 | I don't know of any WinMail+PGP software | EVMS::HALLYB | Fish have no concept of fire | Wed Jul 03 1996 12:41 | 12 | 
|  |     PGP is a really good way to go, but the problem is integrating it into
    popular mail packages.
    
    Not to mention the royalties to PKP, and pressure from the spooks to
    use some form of "encryption" they can break.
    
      John
    
    p.s., see the second article of
    http://educom.edu/edupage.old/edupage.96/edupage-07.01.96
    where Phil Zimmerman testifies Janet Reno vastly overstates the
    security of 56-bit DES.
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| 4694.4 | Return receipt & guarenteed? | PTOJJD::DANZAK | Pittsburgher � | Wed Jul 03 1996 13:04 | 5 | 
|  |     re: -.1
    
    Does that also provide X-400 like return receipt and guaranteed
    delivery?
    j
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| 4694.5 | They would like to support ARBITRARY commerce | USPS::FPRUSS | Frank Pruss, 202-232-7347 | Wed Jul 03 1996 13:18 | 12 | 
|  |     Do any of these provide a Federal Government Guarantee of the time the
    message was sent and when it was delivered?  Perhaps when it was read
    and by who?
    
    That the sender is who they say they are?
    
    Do you have (e.g.) MCI's Contract department's public key for today 
    and if you do, do you want to type it in?
    
    Do they have yours?
    
    Frank
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| 4694.6 | Certified or Registered Delivery PLUS AUTHENTICATION | STAR::HUVAL | Bonnie D. Huval | Wed Jul 03 1996 14:01 | 23 | 
|  | If the USPS only offers the electronic equivalent of certified and registered
paper mail delivery, it will not be adequate for legal documents. Electronic
documents are too easily modified. Either party can edit the message and declare
the edited copy as the real one, leaving a court to decide which party is
telling the truth.
Truly important electronic documents need "notary service" available, too. At
least one company already provides authentication. The electronic document's
contents, date, time, etc. are processed to generated a hash value. The hash
algorithm is supposedly complex enough to make it extremely difficult to modify
a document without causing it to generate a different hash value. The
authentication company keeps the hash value log, not the sender or receiver. If
the authenticity of an electronic transmission is challenged, the authentication
company runs the disputed document through the hasher to verify whether it
generates the right result.
I believe the authentication company is based in New York. I don't remember for
certain, nor do I remember the company's name. Maybe another Noter does?
Any entity that can bundle secure, reliable e-mail delivery with authentication
services will be of great interest to attorneys and to businesses. Good luck.
- Bonnie D. Huval
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| 4694.7 |  | USPS::FPRUSS | Frank Pruss, 202-232-7347 | Wed Jul 03 1996 14:21 | 5 | 
|  |     This is exactly what the USPS is looking for/at.
    
    Also impartial third party archive/escrow services.
    
    FJP
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| 4694.8 | Why not X.400? | PTOJJD::DANZAK | Pittsburgher � | Sat Jul 06 1996 09:31 | 10 | 
|  |     Er, I thought that X.400 provided the necessary routing/tracing
    functions so that you could guarantee the route of the document and
    specific delivery times, etc.?  (Again, X.400 has been 'round for
    years and also does foreign body parts etc.)
    
    So, why would somebody NOT use X.400 transport?
    
    (just curious)
    j
    
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| 4694.9 | Bell Labs spun off a company to do this | NYAAPS::CORBISHLEY | David Corbishley 323-4376 | Mon Jul 08 1996 14:26 | 6 | 
|  | Bell Labs came up with a technology to notorize files and spun off a company to
develop and sell it.  I don't know the name tough.  I was contacted about being
a system manager there, but know nothing about UNIX.  They were offering an
equity interest in the company as part of the offer.
David
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| 4694.10 | The Digital Notary | HERON::KAISER |  | Tue Jul 09 1996 02:22 | 9 | 
|  | Re 4694.9 ...
The company is, as I recall, "Digital Notary".  They have a tiny ad every
day in the New York Times giving the secure checksum of the previous day's
documents.
If I notorize files will they be famous? :-)  Just asking.
___Pete
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| 4694.11 | Utimaco ? | GVPROD::max433.geo.dec.com::wenger | Max Wenger @GEO | Thu Jul 18 1996 04:42 | 26 | 
|  | Contact Utimaco (Belgium). Uti-Maco have a Teamlinks, security add-on for 
end-to-end encryption and since Teamlinks is X.400 based, you do inherit all the 
transport related features, such as delivery receipt, read receipt, etc.
Utimaco Safeguard Systems safeguard Personal Computers, Notebooks and Clients in 
networks with the operating systems DOS, Windows 3.11 and OS/2. Products for 
Windows 95 and NT are in development and will be available in 1996. The 
CryptWare series contains products and tools for Authentication, encryption and 
electronic signature. 
Utimaco, resp. their subsidiaries Safe Concept and Utimaco Belgium develop 
security projects jointly with the customer. The main focus is on topics as 
encryption, electronic signature, chipcard technology and network security.
R&D Center Leuven
Utimaco Belgium NV                                                        
De Vunt 9 B-3220 Holsbeek                                                 
Tel: ++32-16-440135                                                       
Fax: ++32-16-440140 
Contact : Frank Jorissen, Marketing manager
PS. A few years ago we did a major project for the European Central Banks with 
them.
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