| T.R | Title | User | Personal Name
 | Date | Lines | 
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| 3389.1 | How do you trust your computer??? | PASTIS::MONAHAN | humanity is a trojan horse | Fri Sep 16 1994 05:06 | 4 | 
|  |     	This may not be the direction you want the discussion to take, but
    when I log into a computer system I don't want a rogue computer
    programme to be able to take my home address and credit card numbers
    out of my watch without my permission.
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| 3389.2 |  | KLAP::porter | this never happened to Pablo Picasso | Fri Sep 16 1994 08:58 | 15 | 
|  | Right.  I'm not running my personal info through any
computer program I didn't write myself.
(You might say "but this just speeds up a process which 
 already occurs".  Not quite.  Now, they either have to ask me
 for every piece of data, or else they at least have to go looking
 for it ...)
dave
P.S.    Note the first two replies were from Englishmen, who
        still don't have a national ID card (for a while...)
P.P.S.  Both Englishmen live abroad, so this might dilute the
  	force of the 'P.S.' :-)
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| 3389.3 | I want my PRIVACY!! | STOWOA::HICKCOX |  | Fri Sep 16 1994 14:58 | 16 | 
|  |     I agree!!  Frankly, systems know too much about me as it is and the
    closest thing we have to a national ID card in the US is our Master 
    Card!!  I am not happy with the desire for everyone to have my driver's
    license number or my social security number (which propbably won't be
    worth anything when they retire me from the salt mines), but I am sick
    of businesses and scam artists deluging me, at their whim, with 
    catalogs, junk mail and phone solicitations to buy their products 
    and services.  I want to choose when and how I get and give
    information.
    
    Just an aside, when someone calls to sell you something during dinner,
    family time or some other indelicate moment, take a breath, be pleasant
    and ask the for their HOME PHONE NUMBER.  If they ask why or protest,
    just tell them that you are busy but that you will be happy to call
    them at home later, when you are free, If they don't like that then
    indicate that NEITHER DO YOU!!! :^)
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| 3389.4 | Smartcards don't give out information, not even passwords | PASTIS::MONAHAN | humanity is a trojan horse | Sat Sep 17 1994 02:57 | 21 | 
|  |     	To directly answer the base note, the only personal information 
    I regularly enter into a computer is my username and password(s).
    
    	If we had shipped the DECdas product we had a couple of years ago
    then I would only have one password for the net, whatever my point of
    entry, and I think I can remember one. We will probably get this
    eventually, but not with DECdas. Novell is reported in the press to be
    developing a product with the same sort of technology as DECdas.
    
    	As for PC setup, surely your personal computer will remember your
    personal setup preferences? In any case, these may change, or you may
    want to add to them as you move to a system with more setup features.
    ROM is not suitable for this, but maybe you meant EPROM?
    
    	Now smartcard technology is something quite different. Here the
    card has its own microprocessor, and can authenticate you using public
    key cryptography without revealing a password to the computer to which
    you are logging in. This is much more secure than passwords since the
    host computer gets *no* information about you except your username.
    This was one of the advantages of buying that part of Philips in
    Europe, since it included all their smartcard experts and salesmen.
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| 3389.5 |  | DPDMAI::ROSE |  | Sat Sep 17 1994 17:10 | 4 | 
|  |     Are you sure about what we got in the Phillips deal?  The only
    technology that I thought came out of there was LinkWorks and Vivace.
    
    ..Larry
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| 3389.6 |  | LGP30::FLEISCHER | without vision the people perish (DTN 297-5780, MRO3-3/L16) | Sat Sep 17 1994 23:42 | 10 | 
|  | re Note 3389.5 by DPDMAI::ROSE:
>    Are you sure about what we got in the Phillips deal?  The only
>     technology that I thought came out of there was LinkWorks and Vivace.
  
        LinkWorks is European in origin but came from a small software
        house in Austria.  (The "former Philips" people in Apeldoorn
        have had considerable involvement in LinkWorks subsequently.)
        Bob
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| 3389.7 | What Digital Bought... | HLDE01::VUURBOOM_R | Roelof Vuurboom @ APD, DTN 829 4066 | Mon Sep 19 1994 06:32 | 13 | 
|  |     Digital bought at least the following products:
    	- imaging (Megadoc)
    	- workflow (ECHO & WFM)
    	- office (Vivace)
    	- A 4GL (TFM)
    	- various Philips hardware products (some of which e.g.
          networking cards are still being manufactured)
    
    But perhaps more importantly a lot of banking and insurance
    expertise (including smart card expertise) and SMA (Small
    and Medium Account) Channels Expertise as well as market 
    share (customers).
    
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