Conference 7.286::digital

It doesn't help to tie 'em down... I can't believe what is going on around
here.  I cannot begin to list the things STOLEN in this facility (ALF) in the
last two months.  The latest equipment was in a LOCKED storeroom.  They STOLE
equipment including several Alpha PC's, a Flamingo, a dozen RZ57's and 
several PC's.

It's like the LA riots down here.

brett

    re. 0
    
    >>>with all the TFSO's,  I guess these people need equipment at home
    >>>too...after they leave Digital.
    
    Please pay more respect our TFSO'ed ex-collegues/friends.  Your lost
    equipments might not be stolen by them.  Last year, I've lost two 
    laptops in the office (in one night we had 8 PCs been stolen.)  We
    latter found out who did it but they are not our TFSOed employees.
    Speculate the criminal behaviors on our collegues in the publicly
    accessible notes conference is not proper from my personal opinion. 

    Sorry for the direct hit...It was not intended that way...but since
    you raised the question?....hmmmm.
    
    Grins
    Pc
    

    My group solves that problem by not having any equipment worth
    stealing.
    
    ...tom

    	I must admit I have been tempted to save DEC money by stealing my
    own workstation (PASTIS). It was one of the first VS2000s to reach
    Europe around 8 years ago, so it doesn't have a very high book value.
    Using VWS rather than DECwindows it is as fast (for the sort of things
    that I do) as any later workstation, and the VWS fonts seem to suit my
    eyes better.
    
    	The problem is that I sometimes need to read manuals, and since we
    have given up paper manuals (a pain, since I can't read manuals in bed
    at home) I have to have a DECwindows workstation to read them from
    Bookreader, and I have SNUPPA (a Firefox) at my desk as well so that I
    can read manuals. Not a big problem (apart from desk space) except that
    France has a company tax on the number of PCs/workstations on peoples'
    desks, and we have been told we have to cut down to 1 each to reduce this
    tax liability.
    
    	I tried to buy PASTIS, but there seems to be no way to do this
    unless I am TFSOd. I wouldn't even mind leaving it in the office
    until/unless I leave DEC. If I was just to peel off the DEC asset
    labels and replace them with my own would that permit DEC to report it
    as stolen and save on the tax? I would probably have to keep it on my
    desk even if I stole it since my current manager is not too keen on
    people working at home.

    here in ZKO, laptops and briefcases are targets & vanish
    

    RE: .6  by ASABET::SILVERBERG 
    
    >here in ZKO, laptops and briefcases are targets & vanish
    
    The briefcases are probably being used to smuggle the laptops out of
    the building.
    

    
    building lo-jack into them might help somewhat..

    In COP, we've experienced a lotta thief lately also, ranging from
    laptops, memory and money.

    re: .5
    
    You might want to try VTBOOK.  It's a DECUS tool and works pretty
    well...alot better than our attempt at BOOKREADER/CC.
    
    I have a kit available at:
    
    	EZWIND::SYS$KITS:VTBOOK014.%
    
    You don't get the pictures, but everything else works pretty nicely.
    
    Now all you need is a nice PC and VTstar or WinVT or KEATerm/MSU in
    order to do multisession...
    
    	dave
    

    	Thanks. I will try it.
    
    	Dave
    

An interesting application of wireless network technology: 
"Has anyone seen my laptop talking on the net anywhere?"
Similar to cellular phone security: somebody steals it, you
tell the network to reject calls from it, and track down the
cell it's in.

    In the UK there is a thing called Tracker, intended for Cars.
    Sends out signals that can be traced by Police.
    
    We've had the idea of putting it in a really juicy PC in a (customer)
    office that is being broken into on a regular basis.
    
    shame this sort of thing couldn't be extended.
              

re .13  that's what lo-jack (.8) is.

    	The simplest ones work by an electromagnetic resonance effect.
    Note that the items you mentioned normally contain no metal to
    interfere with the detection. A metal casing would screen it
    completely, and other electrical components might make detection
    unreliable.

Uh, compact disks contain metal.

CDs have non-ferrous metal; aluminum or gold, and not much of that.

		Steve

The little dohickies that protect products consist of a coil of wire and,
if my guess is right, a capacitor. The pair forms a tank circuit that
resonates at a specific frequency. The thing you walk through is a low
power transmitter. If the circuit passes through, it absorbes energy at
the specific frequency and the bells go off. Bulk metal has nothing to
do with it. If it did, everyone who sets off airport detectors would
also set these things off.

    Re: 3205.19 - you are essentially right - the cheapest of the
    protective stickers are just tuned tanks made from two outer
    layers of film with inner foil layer configured to present the
    correct configuration of capacitance/inductance.  They can be 
    turned out for pennies, detected easily, and they won't set off
    a bulk metal detector.
    
     

    Another system uses a Molybdenum/Chrome alloy that has the interesting
    property that when magnetized and excited by a varying magnetic field,
    the odd harmonics are 30-40 db less than the even harmonics.  When
    demagnetized, the harmonics are roughly the same on the exponential
    curve.  This system requires some form of field coil and has a maximum
    effective span of 7-8 feet.  
    
    This is the basis of most system where you watch them demagnetize the
    sticker.
    
    /jim