Conference 7.286::digital

    
    	Now, this is what might be called a real good rumor - mandatory
    employee vacation time. This place gets curiousor and curiousor every
    day. Much better than the week by week stuff. Real excitment in our
    lives.
    	I hope somebody with literary aspirations id keeping real good
    notes for the book "DEATH BY DIGITAL". I'd pay $24.95 for it.
    
    		the Greyhawk

    Correction to .0
    
    I've heard that the rumor is true, but the dates are 7/5-8 and
    12/26-30. Word is that the company will be closed those weeks, with
    minimal exceptions. We have the option of taking the time as vacation
    time, or time off without pay.
    
    Usually slow weeks anyway. We've usually shipped everything that wasn't
    bolted down by the end of June to make Q4 numbers.
    
    hth,
    
    Kevin

                         decision will be made on
                         June 15  <maybe> depending on
                         where we are with meeting our
                         $$$ goals
    

Yea ... we close down for one week ... are forced to use vacation time
and then like any good vacation week ... you work twice as hard the next
week to catch up.

or do we just pace ourselves ...

    
    
    
    
    this sounds great to me! With our current layoffs, it might be the only
    chance we get to take any time off till next year...
    
    Of course, this won't apply to customer support since I'm pretty sure
    that customers won't appreciate not getting helped for two weeks
    cause we need to save money!!!
    bummer....

Makes sense to me...lots of companies do this, because it coincides with so many
vacations, that the people left have a difficult time getting any work done,
especially if it requires anything from anybody else.

    
    Anyone in Finance and Operations support would have a hell of a time
    trying to close books week two July.....  The books are always closed
    week 1.
    
    Has it ever happend?  Nobody in Finance is encouraged to take week 1 or
    week 2 off in July.  Year end fiscal closing,  it's Hell week(s) folks
    
    M

    
    I WAS JUST TOLD THAT BY SOMEONE WHO'S SPOUSE IS A MANAGER THAT THE
    RUMOR IS TRUE...FOR ONE WEEK.

    
        Now if this involuntary time off becomes fact instead of 
        rumor, then it would be nice to know ahead of time to be 
        able at least to make personal plans.  But that would require 
        some company planning, which we seem to be constitutionally 
        unable to do.  The way things are going, we'd probably find 
        out on Friday, July 1.
    
        Actually the rumor I heard was that the "leadership" decided 
        between salary freeze and one week closing in July.
    
        Sigh,
        Peter
    

    ..take the sales force off the street for a week??!!??

RE: .10

	Not ok for manufacturing. If you recall, we can't build some
	of our systems fast enough.

	Me personally, I couldn't care less if we take the week off.
	I'm coming back from vacation July 2nd and another week off would
	suit me fine. Anything at this point to not get so depressed.

							mike

    
    "Yes sir, I know your order was supposed to ship July 5th. 
     However.....huh.....duh....all our plants are closed until
     next week". "Huh, who do you want to speak to Corp Customer
     Relations or Bob Palmer?"
    
    

    For those of us on contract, I guess we don't bill our customers for
    revene those weeks either.  "I keep cutting and cutting and its still
    too short!""

    	I heard that this was being considered but was dropped (not that
    they won't turn around and do it later) since the implications weren't
    well enough understood, and it may end up costing us more money in some
    cases rather than saving any.
    	But if they do it, can I slip my development schedule by two weeks?
    Bwahahahaha! Yeah, right...

    i heard that they would close on the 4th of july week but had changed
    there minds...
    
                    stig

>        Actually the rumor I heard was that the "leadership" decided 
>        between salary freeze and one week closing in July.
    
    Neat! So they picked *both*!!    
    
    /Bob

    Can I schedule some long awaited minor surgery and use sick time or is
    this just vacation?

    the co.'d want you to be charged vacation time or unpaid leave of
    absence...imho

    As long it was ligit surgery and I have sick time coming then I expect
    to use for ANY type of ilness.

    I wonder when we'll know 'officially' if this is true or not?  Some of
    us would like to make plans accordingly.
    
    

    The issue is planning.  We can all take our vacations in the same week
    or weeks, given time to plan.  You don't wake up one day and say "I
    think I'll take the family on vacation today."  For those that have
    planned to take the week or weeks off that Digital may be planning, it
    would work out.  For others, July could be a month where no work gets
    done - forced time off, coupled with planned vacation and others'
    planned vacations could mean that the people we need aren't here in
    July.  What a way to kick off the new, new Digital.
    

    Talking about an OXYMORON!
    

    If anything, I would guess that where possible, we will be asked
    to take vacation during the July 4 week. Similar to what was done
    last Christmas.
    
    /Bob

    
    Sounds screwy.  The reason for furloughs is so sales can catch up with
    (over)production.  Car manufacturers shut lines down and furlough
    people when sales are sluggish and finished inventories are growing. 
    If we're not in that position, what would management hope to achieve?  
    
    - Z

    .24
    Reduce the amount of Vacation Accrual on the books so that when the
    next wave hits in FY95, not as high a cash payout on an individual
    basis...

    re .25 If they want to reduce vacation accrual, then they only need to
    change to policy of pay in lieu of vacation. Whether I'm at risk or
    not, I'd think of selling back 5 of my 6 available weeks and taking the
    week and actually going somewhere for a change or even paying some
    bills.
    
    Phil

    re .26
    
    Reducing an accrual by paying it as an expense doesn't save the company
    anything.
    
    The idea is that taking vacation costs the company no more (other than
    lost opportunity) than paying for our work, but the accrual for unused 
    vacation time goes aw by paying for the vacation time takena
    

    .27 should have read...
    
    The idea is that by us taking vacation the company pays no more (other
    than lost opportunity) than paying for our work, but the accrual for un-
    used vacation time is eliminated by payment for the vacation time we take.
    

    from what i understand as of this morning anyway, is that there won't
    be any "mandatory" furlough over the fourth of july holiday. It seems
    as if the SLT felt that a "forced" furlough would create panic in
    the minds of our customers. 

    RE: .29  by ZIPLOK::PASQUALE 
    
    >It seems as if the SLT felt that a "forced" furlough would create panic
    >in the minds of our customers. 
    
    To say nothing of the employees.
    

    Yeah, but if I still get benefits if I take the week without
    pay, I'd rather do that if I can afford it, and use the vacation
    for extra $$$'s if I get tapped.  Is there anything that says
    we HAVE to use the vacation time if we have it?
    
    Mary-Michael

This came from my manager:
    
From:	NAME: Marv Collins @DAS             
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Subject: ERRONEOUS VACATION - RUMORS                                            1
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I have seen a number of erroneous messages being passed around the 
system which indicate there will be a forced vacation the week of 7/5 
- 7/8.  This is absolutely untrue and certainly from a service 
standpoint has no logical merit.

I would like each of you to communicate this to your folks along with 
the following:

     During this particular time, we must be diligent in guarding 
     against rumors, fears, and unrealistic concerns.  If there is 
     ever a question about some communication and its validity, 
     check first and clearly forward absolutely nothing which you 
     do not know for sure.  We need to keep focused on our people 
     and our customers.  These rumors are distracting and a waste 
     of energy needed for the important task of renewing this 
     company.
     
Regards,

JP:rs  

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