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| 2857.1 |  | MILPND::J_TOMAO | Life's a journey not a destination | Tue Jan 18 1994 11:17 | 15 | 
|  |     
                   Calendar Year 1994 Holiday Schedule
    
                   May 30, 1994   Monday   -  Memorial Day
                   July 4, 1994   Monday   -  Independence Day
                   Sept. 5, 1994  Monday   -  Labor Day
                   Nov. 24, 1994  Thursday -  Thanksgiving Day
                   Nov. 25, 1994  Friday   -  Day after Thanksgiving
                   Dec. 23, 1994  Friday   -  Assignable Day
                   Dec. 26, 1994  Monday   -  Christmas Day
    
                   Location Choice Holiday
                   Personal Holiday
                                                                    
    
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| 2857.2 |  | ROWLET::AINSLEY | Less than 150 kts. is TOO slow! | Tue Jan 18 1994 11:43 | 4 | 
|  | I think it's under "employee benefits" or something like that on the US
main menu.
Bob
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| 2857.3 | VTX Livewire | SOLVIT::DESMARAIS |  | Tue Jan 18 1994 12:25 | 6 | 
|  |     VTX Livewire
    Then select #1 Corporate/Maynard Livewire
    Then select #10 U.S. & Greater Maynard area
    Then select #3 Holiday
    
    Now isn't that easy??
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| 2857.4 | Thanks | KMOOSE::CMCCUTCHEON | The Karate Moose | Tue Jan 18 1994 13:54 | 6 | 
|  | Thanks.  The path's different in VTX from last year.
I would've like the old calendar format I used to get with the days marked,
but will take this format!  8-)
Charlie
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| 2857.5 | Aren't we supposed to get 10 holidays? | KYOSS1::BOYLE | Dirty Jobs Done Dirt Cheap | Tue Jan 18 1994 13:58 | 4 | 
|  |     Haven't we been receiving 10 day/year?  This states 9 days.  Are we
    losing out, or am I mistaken?
    
    Jack Boyle  
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| 2857.6 | Don't forget New Year's | MSBCS::WIBECAN | Going on an Alphaquest | Tue Jan 18 1994 14:22 | 4 | 
|  | >>    Haven't we been receiving 10 day/year?  This states 9 days.  Are we
>>    losing out, or am I mistaken?
It's missing 1/3/94.
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| 2857.7 | I didn't get the 3rd...... | ODIXIE::SCRIVEN |  | Tue Jan 18 1994 14:45 | 16 | 
|  |     On page 307 in the new 12/93 telephone directory, all holidays are
    highlighted.  re: -.1, it ain't the 3rd.  There are 8 holiday days,:
    
    	July 5
    	Sept 6
    	Nov 25, 26
    	December 24, 27, 31
    	May 30
    
    For those of you "UP NORTH" you get Patriots day as your location
    choice holiday whereas some of us get it as a personal choice.  And
    then their is you personal holiday that is truly of your choosing. 
    That equals 10....
    
    Toodles.....JP
    
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| 2857.8 |  | LGP30::FLEISCHER | without vision the people perish (DTN 223-8576, MSO2-2/A2, IM&T) | Tue Jan 18 1994 14:47 | 13 | 
|  | re Note 2857.6 by MSBCS::WIBECAN:
>                           -< Don't forget New Year's >-
> 
> >>    Haven't we been receiving 10 day/year?  This states 9 days.  Are we
> >>    losing out, or am I mistaken?
> 
> It's missing 1/3/94.
  
        I don't know about your site, but in Maynard we worked that
        day!
        Bob
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| 2857.9 | we need more holiday | STAR::ABBASI | and the computer said mate in 23! | Tue Jan 18 1994 14:55 | 13 | 
|  |     we need more holiday days.
    
    we work too much days during the year. i suggest to raise the holiday
    to 3 months per year instead of the little 10 working days most
    of us get every year.
    
    at this rate we'll burn out in our youth and by the time we get
    to retire we'll be all used up.
    
    we need more time for our loved ones.
    
    \nasser
    head_of_committee_to_get_more_holdiays
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| 2857.10 |  | NOTIME::SACKS | Gerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085 | Tue Jan 18 1994 15:02 | 9 | 
|  | Re .5:
January 3 wasn't a holiday.
Re .7:
December 31 is a Saturday.
The answer is that we got 11 holidays last year, so we get 9 this year.
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| 2857.11 |  | ICS::SOBECKY | John Sobecky DTN 223-5557 | Tue Jan 18 1994 15:33 | 8 | 
|  |     
    
    	Re .0
    
    	Thank you for being so optimistic as to look forward a whole year.
    	Not too much of that foresight left around here.
    
    	John
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| 2857.12 | 31st of 93 not 94.... | ODIXIE::SCRIVEN |  | Tue Jan 18 1994 15:56 | 5 | 
|  |     .7 was for the fiscal, not calendar year and the 31st is/was a Friday.
    
    We only get 10 this fiscal and will get 10 next year.
    
    Toodles.....JP
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| 2857.13 | Name the 10 holidays in 1994 | ICS::VERMA |  | Tue Jan 18 1994 16:31 | 10 | 
|  |     
    Re: .7
    
    Page 307 in Dtn telephone directory is for FY94 and NOT calendar 94.
    
    Jul thru Dec is calendar 1993 and Jan thru June is calender 1994.
    Holidays for Jul thru Dec 1994 are not listed.
     
    .12 says we get 10 holidays in 1994. Can someone list them here?
    
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| 2857.14 |  | MSBCS::WIBECAN | Going on an Alphaquest | Tue Jan 18 1994 17:19 | 14 | 
|  | Re: New Year's
Okay, so I missed the exact date.  The point was, New Year's wasn't listed, and
we get it as a holiday.  It falls on one side or the other of the calendar year
dividing point, so it is possible (as it was in 1993) for January 1 and
December 31 of the same year to be holidays, and for the following year not to
have a New Year's holiday if you go by strict calendar days off.  If you
consider New Year's to be the first holiday of the year, even if you actually
get the day off in the preceding year, it seems to be a lot simpler (at least
it does to me).
And no, I didn't get 1/3/94 off, either...
						Brian
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| 2857.15 |  | CSOA1::LENNIG | Dave (N8JCX), MIG, @CYO | Wed Jan 19 1994 08:32 | 6 | 
|  |     IF     Jan-1 == Sat
    THEN   Dec-31 = Holiday
    ELSEIF Jan-1 == Sun
    THEN   Jan-2 = Holiday
    ELSE   Jan-1 = Holiday
    ENDIF
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| 2857.16 | i dont understand this | STAR::ABBASI | iam a picky DECeeee | Wed Jan 19 1994 08:44 | 13 | 
|  |     .15
    
    >IF     Jan-1 == Sat
    >THEN   Dec-31 = Holiday
    >ELSEIF Jan-1 == Sun
    >THEN   Jan-2 = Holiday
    >ELSE   Jan-1 = Holiday
    >ENDIF
    humm... i counted 2 IF's up there but only 1 ENDIF? is this OK?
    \nasser
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| 2857.17 | It compiles just fine... | DYPSS1::DYSERT | Barry - Custom Software Development | Wed Jan 19 1994 11:51 | 21 | 
|  | 	PROGRAM HOLIDAY
	IMPLICIT NONE
	CHARACTER*3 jan1
10	TYPE 400
400	FORMAT(/'$Enter weekday of Jan 1 (^Z to quit): ')
	READ(*,401,END=99) jan1
401	FORMAT(A)
	CALL STR$UPCASE(jan1,jan1)
	IF (jan1 .eq. 'SAT') THEN
	   TYPE *, 'Dec 31 is a holiday'
	ELSEIF (jan1 .eq. 'SUN') THEN
	   TYPE *, 'Jan 2 is a holiday'
	ELSE
	   TYPE *, 'Jan 1 is a holiday'
	ENDIF
	GO TO 10
99	END
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| 2857.18 |  | CSOA1::LENNIG | Dave (N8JCX), MIG, @CYO | Wed Jan 19 1994 12:37 | 17 | 
|  |     Very good Barry 
    Nassar, There is only one IF token; there is also an ELSEIF token.
    
    A combo of Fortran, C, & DCL. Hey, It's _my_ pseudo-language! :-)
    If you prefer straight DCL
    INQUIRE Year
    IF f$cvt("1-JAN-''Year'",,"WEEKDAY") .eqs. "Saturday"
    THEN Holiday = "31-DEC-''f$str(Year-1)'"
    ELSE IF f$cvt("1-JAN-''Year'",,"WEEKDAY") .eqs. "Sunday"
    	 THEN Holiday = "2-JAN-''Year'"
    	 ELSE Holiday = "1-JAN-''Year'"
    	 ENDIF
    ENDIF
    WRITE SYS$OUTPUT "New Year Holiday for ''Year' is ''Holiday'"
    
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| 2857.19 |  | STAR::ABBASI | a chess'a'holick DECeeee | Wed Jan 19 1994 12:44 | 5 | 
|  |     soory about the ratholes but i still think there should be 
    2 ENDIF's to match the 2 IF's.
    
    \nasser
    ps. real programmers don't write in FORTRAN.
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| 2857.20 | Holidays in Europe | RUTILE::HOEFSMIT | Old Sins Cast Long Shadows | Wed Jan 19 1994 14:10 | 8 | 
|  | Gee,  European holidays are much simpler. Take Germany in CY94 they have 55
days of holiday.
Within Holland I've 38 days + some left of last year.
Ciao,
Michiel
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| 2857.21 |  | RANGER::BACKSTROM | bwk,pjp;SwTools;pg2;lines23-24 | Wed Jan 19 1994 14:48 | 9 | 
|  | Re: .20
You're equating "holidays" to "vacation". 
Can you from memory list which dates all public holidays for 1994 fall 
in Holland? Or are there no government "mandated" public holidays in 
the Netherlands (there are in Germany, for sure ;-)?
...petri
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| 2857.22 |  | DYPSS1::DYSERT | Barry - Custom Software Development | Wed Jan 19 1994 16:22 | 8 | 
|  |     Re: Note 2857.19 by STAR::ABBASI
    
�    ps. real programmers don't write in FORTRAN.
    
    People who don't write in FORTRAN are incapable of recognizing real
    programmers.
    
    	BD�
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| 2857.23 |  | STAR::ABBASI | a chess'a'holick DECeeee | Wed Jan 19 1994 16:29 | 6 | 
|  |     > People who don't write in FORTRAN are incapable of recognizing real
    >  programmers.
    
    OMIGOD !
    
    \nasser
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| 2857.24 | holiday/vacations what is acutally the difference | RUTILE::HOEFSMIT | Old Sins Cast Long Shadows | Wed Jan 19 1994 16:37 | 22 | 
|  | 
You're equating "holidays" to "vacation". 
>>> you're right they are different. There are not that many in Holland,
only when particular things are during the week like xmas/eastern.
But from governement only:
The queens birthday and once every 5 year the 5th of May (when the year 
end at 0 or 5)
because that's the end of the 2nd world war
In Germany there are government mandated holidays. A lot. That's why they
have that big amount of 55 days of. They have a lot of bridge days. Holland
doesn't have them.
But normally I don't know when I'm off, I'm almost never in Holland so I 
sometimes find out when I get in the office that there is a holiday.
Because DEC is an American based company, we get days off if for instance
xmas is in the weekend.
ciao,
Michiel 
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| 2857.25 |  | QUARK::LIONEL | Free advice is worth every cent | Wed Jan 19 1994 20:58 | 16 | 
|  |     Re: .23
    
    >> People who don't write in FORTRAN are incapable of recognizing real
    >>  programmers.
    
    > OMIGOD !
    
    As people who do write in FORTRAN know:
    
    		GOD IS REAL (UNLESS DECLARED INTEGER).
    
    That goes for PROGRAMMERS as well.
    
    					Steve
    
    
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| 2857.26 | I guess I can manage a couple flights of stairs, even at my age | VMSSPT::STOA::CURTIS | Dick "Aristotle" Curtis | Wed Jan 19 1994 22:26 | 6 | 
|  |     .19:
    
    I'd offer to meet you at dawn, but I'm feeling lazy this week. 
    Besides, I've a fair idea of where your office is.
    
    Dick
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| 2857.27 | There are no 55 free days in Germany! Why such barumors? | KBOMFG::KUISLE |  | Thu Jan 20 1994 05:28 | 30 | 
|  | I'm trying to sum up all free days in whole Germany:
1. Neujahr			may be working day
2. Karfreitag			Friday, always working day
3. Ostermontag			Monday, always working day
4. Maifeiertag			may be working day
5. Christi Himmelfahrt		may be working day
6. Pfingstmontag		Monday, always working day
7. Tag der Deutschen Einheit	may be working day
8. Bu�- und Bettag		Wednesday, always working day
9/10. Weihnachten		may be working day
11. Heilig Abend / Silvester	may be working day
In some states within Germany there are additional free days, up to 3.
The minimum legal vacation is 3 weeks, (exactly 18 working days, and Saturday
included as a working day). The individuell amount of vacation varies from 
15 to 32 days, depending on the company you work for and on your contract.
So let's try to maximize:
Assume, all goverment related days are working days (I think it's impossible),
then you get 11 days. Let you live in a state with 3 additional free days, give
14 days. And now you are working for a company which gives you 32 vacation
days give 45 days!!   ... in opposite to rumors with 55 days !!!
And let's minimize:
Minimum from the above 11 mentioned is about 6. Plus 15 days minimum vacation
gives 26 days.
Bernhard
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| 2857.28 | I think there are 55 | RUTILE::HOEFSMIT | Old Sins Cast Long Shadows | Thu Jan 20 1994 05:59 | 6 | 
|  | What about the actual 38 hrs per week you work in Germany, which means
that all these hours are added up and taken at the end of the year.
Did you also count that Digital Germany was closed till the 10th of January
Michiel
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| 2857.29 | reply -.1 ... working time Germany | KBOMFG::KUISLE |  | Thu Jan 20 1994 07:26 | 16 | 
|  | > What about the actual 38 hrs per week you work in Germany, which means
> that all these hours are added up and taken at the end of the year.
The people are working different hrs/per week ranging from 35 to 40. It depends
on the company, the department, the position and sometimes on the individual.
But is's obviously, that the salery you get is also depending on your working
time.
> Did you also count that Digital Germany was closed till the 10th of January
KBO had closed during the timeframe from Christmas to New Year and each 
employee had to spent her/his vacation time. And I think, the same is valid 
for the rest of Digital Germany.
Bernhard
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| 2857.30 | german holidays are nice, but | ICS::VERMA |  | Thu Jan 20 1994 15:39 | 4 | 
|  |     
    back to the basenote.
    
    can someone list the 10 or as many US holidays for calander 1994?
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| 2857.31 |  | MILPND::J_TOMAO | Life's a journey not a destination | Thu Jan 20 1994 16:00 | 1 | 
|  |     2857.1 lists the 9 for 1994
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| 2857.32 |  | COVERT::COVERT | John R. Covert | Thu Jan 20 1994 23:05 | 24 | 
|  | >I'm trying to sum up all free days in whole Germany:
>
>1. Neujahr			may be working day
>2. Karfreitag			Friday, always working day
>3. Ostermontag			Monday, always working day
>4. Maifeiertag			may be working day
>5. Christi Himmelfahrt		may be working day
>6. Pfingstmontag		Monday, always working day
>7. Tag der Deutschen Einheit	may be working day
>8. Bu�- und Bettag		Wednesday, always working day
>9/10. Weihnachten		may be working day
>11. Heilig Abend / Silvester	may be working day
Christi Himmelfahrt is always Thursday, so it's a day you get off every year.
I thought DEC observed the max of all the holidays for both predominantly
Protestant and Catholic regions, which would add to that list:
Hl. Drei K�nige, can fall on any day.
Fronleichnam, always a Thursday.
Mari� Himmelfahrt, can fall on any day.
Allerheiligen, can fall on any day.
/john
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| 2857.33 | We were closed... | NDLVAX::MTANNER | D'ye ken John plunk | Fri Jan 21 1994 02:37 | 15 | 
|  |     re 29.
    
    Here in Frankfurt we were also closed the week beginning Jan 3rd and
    this was given as Bruchentage (bridege days) not my personal holiday
    allowance.
    
    I (and a few others) found this decision a little strange, considering
    that every other country was working. I don't know how much it saved in
    heating/lighting etc.
    
    Cheers,
    
    Mark.
    
    (An English man in Frank - Furt) 
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| 2857.34 | U.S. Holiday Schedule through 1995 | LUNER::DREYER | Love me, love my cats! | Thu Oct 20 1994 09:10 | 25 | 
|  |                Calendar Year 1994-95 Holiday Schedule
 
               Nov. 24, 1994  Thursday -  Thanksgiving Day
               Nov. 25, 1994  Friday   -  Day after Thanksgiving
               Dec. 23, 1994  Friday   -  Assignable Day
               Dec. 26, 1994  Monday   -  Christmas Day
               
               Jan. 2, 1995   Monday   -  New Year's Day
               May 29, 1995   Monday   -  Memorial Day
               July 3, 1995   Monday   -  Assignable Day
               July 4, 1995   Tuesday  -  Independence Day
               Sept. 4, 1995  Monday   -  Labor Day              
               Nov. 23, 1995  Thursday -  Thanksgiving Day
               Nov. 24, 1995  Friday   -  Day after Thanksgiving
               Dec. 25, 1995  Monday   -  Christmas Day
         
               Location Choice Holiday
               Personal Holiday
 
         Just to note a small change, in VTX select:
	 	#2 Livewire
		#10 U.S. and Greater Maynard Area
		#3 Holiday
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