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| 2855.1 | MR4SRV::MARKETING, topic 128 | RANGER::BACKSTROM | bwk,pjp;SwTools;pg2;lines23-24 | Sun Jan 16 1994 14:18 | 0 | 
| 2855.2 |  | SAHQ::LUBER | I have a Bobby Cox dart board | Tue Jan 18 1994 14:11 | 13 | 
|  |     Clearly, we are not price competitive in this commodity market.  Dell,
    Gateway, and a few others are now offering the following for $3999:
    
    Pentium P-60 processor
    16 mb ram
    528 mb hard drive
    double spin CD Rom
    Graphics accelerator card
    PCI local bus
    1 mb video ram
    
    We offer less of a machine for half again the price.  When will we
    learn?
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| 2855.3 | Discovery Channel advertising | NOVA::R_ANDERSON | My timing is Digital. | Tue Apr 19 1994 11:16 | 7 | 
|  | There were several (four?) ads on the Discovery Channel last night for
Digital PC's.  I thought the ads were quite well done - especially the
one about who invented networking before identifying Digital - good job!
Now if only we can do the same thing for databases :-)
Rick
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| 2855.4 |  | LGP30::FLEISCHER | without vision the people perish (DTN 223-8576, MSO2-2/A2, IM&T) | Tue Apr 19 1994 12:12 | 3 | 
|  | re Note 2855.3 by NOVA::R_ANDERSON:
        Ok, who did invent networking before identifying Digital?
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| 2855.5 | We did! | NOVA::R_ANDERSON | My timing is Digital. | Thu Apr 21 1994 07:03 | 5 | 
|  | >        Ok, who did invent networking before identifying Digital?
The ad ends with something like "Oh, we did!  Digital".
Rick
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| 2855.6 |  | NACAD::SHERMAN | Steve NETCAD::Sherman DTN 226-6992, LKG2-A/R05 pole AA2 | Thu Apr 21 1994 09:21 | 5 | 
|  |     You know, maybe we could continue this ad thread.  We could point out
    what a great OS Unix is, then ask whose machine was the first to run
    Unix? 
    
    Steve
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| 2855.7 | Hind Sight | GUCCI::HERB | New Personal Name coming soon! | Thu Apr 21 1994 10:06 | 6 | 
|  |     >then ask whose machine was the first to run Unix?
    
    Can we really "take credit" for this? I dare to add that Digital was
    given the opportunity to buy UNIX lock, stock, and barrel in the 70s
    for about $50K but turned it down. My former employer was the
    instigator of this.
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| 2855.8 |  | REGENT::BLOCHER |  | Thu Apr 21 1994 10:15 | 2 | 
|  |     UNIX was developed on PDP 8 machines.
    
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| 2855.9 | more down the history rathole | CVG::THOMPSON | An AlphaGeneration Noter | Thu Apr 21 1994 10:25 | 10 | 
|  |     According to Kernighan & Ritchie in "The C Programming Language"
    the first UNIX was on a PDP-7. I believe that most of the real
    work was later done on PDP-11s and Interdata 8/32s. Interdata
    also took a long time to embrace UNIX. It was happening when I
    left there in 1982. Though by that time they were a division of
    Perkin Elmer. Since then they have undergone a number of other
    corporate changes but embracing UNIX has not been enough to make
    them a big player in the industry.
    			Alfred
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| 2855.10 |  | KAOFS::B_VANVALKENB |  | Thu Apr 21 1994 10:54 | 12 | 
|  |     Seen a PC ad on The Learning Channel last night during Connections 2
    
    The ad didn't show a product, didn't talk about a product and said
    nothing about the company.
    
    XL "beyond the box"
    
    What a joke
    
    
    Brian V
    
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| 2855.11 | adds also on CNN and SCI-FI channel | SPECXN::B_BRADACH |  | Thu Apr 21 1994 11:21 | 5 | 
|  |     I have seen the PC adds for the last several weeks on CNN as
    well as the SCI-FI channel.  Same adds everyone is referring to
    about networking and PC's.
    
    bernie
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| 2855.12 | we need better ads | UNYEM::JAMESS |  | Thu Apr 21 1994 11:35 | 6 | 
|  |     does anyone else think it is a waste to buy TV time then make them
    read the ad. I usually don't pay much attention to the commercials
    anyway. Words across the creen are much easier to ignore than most
    TV ads. 
    
                              Steve J.
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| 2855.13 | And We Probably Spend more on ads than NEC | LJSRV2::FEHSKENS | len - reformed architect | Thu Apr 21 1994 11:40 | 12 | 
|  |     
    What I find interesting is the series of ads that NEC has been running;
    the ones with the full page faces with a teasing remark.  The versions
    they run in the PC mags are multipage, but they also run a one page
    version in the general consumption media like Time and Newsweek.  I
    wonder which company (NEC or DEC) has higher name recognition,
    especially among purchase decision makers for computer systems.
    
    How many Fortune 100 companies are known only to industry insiders?
    
    len.
    
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| 2855.14 |  | REGENT::BLOCHER |  | Thu Apr 21 1994 16:38 | 6 | 
|  |     Re: .8 .9 
    I stand corrected. It was the PDP7. The person who told me PDP 8 
    mis-informed me. I knew that it was one of the earlier DEC machines
    that we had sold AT&T, but then we used to sell them some of every
    new cpu we developed at least thru the KL10.
    						Marie
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| 2855.15 | some unix history | MRKTNG::BROCK | Son of a Beech | Fri Apr 22 1994 12:48 | 4 | 
|  |     Most of the REAL work was done on a PDP 11/05, then a PDP 11/40 (maybe
    a 11/45?). Next major upgrade was to a PDP 11/70 (I sold it), and then,
    as indicated earlier, the Interdata 8/32 was purchased (sending panic
    throughout Digital). Then a VAX 11/780 (I sold it).
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