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Name | Date | Lines |
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| 2305.1 | overtime illness | STOSPT::OBLACK | Marty OBlack | Sat Jan 02 1993 11:41 | 8 |
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Fwiw, the customer services district in STO has based O.T. on a
40 hour work week for many years. If you took a sick day during
a week that you worked eight hours of O.T. (such as a Saturday or
Sunday), you lost the eight hours of O.T. I am not eligible for
overtime, but I have seen many people that were sick (flu, etc.)
at work when they should have stayed home!
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| 2305.2 | re-.1 | KAOS::TURRO | Bumper snicker here! | Sat Jan 02 1993 20:05 | 7 |
| This was never enforced in any cost center Ive worked in
before.However,the impression is they will be looking for it
in the future and that possibly the payroll dept will also have
a software fix to catch it if the CC's don't..
Mike Turro
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| 2305.3 | nothing much changes | DPDMAI::BROYLESB | | Mon Jan 04 1993 10:19 | 5 |
| Tho overtime versus sick time has always been in the policy book
sick time should never have been counted as time worked only vacation
and holiday count towards your forty hours worked. this has always
been the DEC policy. Looks as though nothing much has changed eh
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| 2305.4 | There IS a change here ! | 35261::WOOLLUMS | | Thu Jan 07 1993 22:17 | 27 |
| RE .3
Yes, Things have changed in a subtle, but very tangible way. First, as
Marty says in .1, If you work a Saturday or Sunday in the same week as
you take a sick day, you lose the overtime premium for the extra day
worked. However, if you take a sick day then work 9 hours the next day,
you would be paid overtime for anything over 8 hours in any day.
Under the new policy, you lose the overtime premium on your first 8
hours of overtime. This will happen regardless of when the overtime is
worked.
The weekend/sick scenario has been fairly rare for most people in the
past. I have had this situation arise only once in the past. I dealt
with it by reporting the day as vacation (thus preserving the overtime
pay at the cost of 8 hours vacation).
As a Customer Service Engineer, I have many more weeks with overtime,
than without. Anyone in this situation is going to pay a significant
penalty for taking a sick day. I guess maybe this will help some people
get their vacation accrual in line before next January :-)
IMHO it would be better to deal with those individuals who abuse their
sick time rather than punish everyone who takes a sick day.
Russ
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| 2305.5 | | SALEM::TIMMONS | Where's Waldo? | Fri Jan 08 1993 07:00 | 11 |
| Paying overtime for hours in excess of 40 per week is the policy that
was in effect in the last two companies that I worked in. DEC isn't
alone in this, by any means.
As regards vacation accrual, this, too, is the policy in many companies
where employees have reached the 4-or-more weeks/per/year status. I
have family members working at a MAJOR electronics firm in this state
who now MUST take vacation time during the holidays. I can't recall if
it's one or two weeks, but the plant is, effectively, shutdown.
Lee
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| 2305.6 | Wanna make me a loan? | MENTOR::JOHNSON | If we build it, they will come. | Sun Jan 10 1993 06:06 | 7 |
| re: Note 2305.4, specifically "I dealt with it by reporting the day as vacation
(thus preserving the overtime pay at the cost of 8 hours vacation)."
It sounds like you gave up eight hours of pay to realize four, which I don't
understand. Not criticizing, just wondering.
Pete
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| 2305.7 | | JOET::JOET | Question authority. | Sun Jan 10 1993 09:10 | 23 |
| re: .6
> It sounds like you gave up eight hours of pay to realize four, which I
> don't understand. Not criticizing, just wondering.
How about the expediency of having hard cash in hand vs. a more
valuable but somewhat intangible asset that's realized some time in the
future.
It's not at all unlike taking out a loan or paying for something with a
credit card that you don't intend to pay off at the end of the month.
Sure the interest rate in this case is usurious, but people do this
sort of thing all the time.
With no hope of being able to use all of their soon-to-be-excess
accrued vacation for various reasons, it would make a whole lot of
sense for some people to take "advantage" of this.
I wonder if DEC knows that some of the new policies are helping it get
into the loan sharking business?
-joe tomkowitz
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| 2305.8 | | MU::PORTER | savage pencil | Sun Jan 10 1993 13:11 | 6 |
| >Sure the interest rate in this case is usurious, but people do this
>sort of thing all the time.
Aren't all rates of interest "usurious" ?
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| 2305.9 | It can work both ways | VICKI::DODIER | Food for thought makes me hungry | Mon Jan 11 1993 13:56 | 11 |
| About 1+ years ago, the state of NH changed the wage/labor laws.
This was a very quiet change that very few people noticed. It dropped
the requirement to pay time and a half for more than 8 hours in a day.
It still lists the requirement to pay OT for more than 40 hours a week.
This can actually help at times. If you know you need to leave
early the following day, you can work a little extra time the day
before without DEC having to pay OT. This allows DEC to be a little
more flexible with WC2 hours.
Ray
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