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| 2275.1 | Stigma is right | NEWVAX::SGRIFFIN | DTN 339-5391 | Tue Dec 15 1992 22:20 | 17 |
| > Our EAP people, if they still exist, MUST start holding a series of
> mandatory stress management seminars. If we don't have enough of
> them to handle this then hire more. Never mind the "only if you
> want to see me philosophy." make the meetings mandatory. Remove
> the stigma of going to see the "shrink." We are drowning and we
This struck a chord with me. I've always wondered why everyone is encouraged
to get regular dental and medical checkups, but not psychiatric checkups. I
am a little more sensitive than usual on this topic since my ex-wife informed
me this morning that her boyfriend had committed suicide last night.
Had he had regular checkups, someone may have noticed the fact that he was
manic-depressive, had been on painkillers for 15+ years, etc., and been able
to intervene, saving his life, my ex and his kids and relatives the pain, etc.
I think police officers are required to have regular mental exams because of
the stress of the job. Does anyone have any table that lists stress levels by
profession?
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| 2275.2 | will someone please LEAD!!! | ODIXIE::SMITHJ | | Tue Dec 15 1992 23:44 | 2 |
| I would settle for just a meeting with local management at least
telling us what has happened to who and why.
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| 2275.3 | Be proactive - bug someone about it! | NETWKS::GASKELL | | Wed Dec 16 1992 09:03 | 12 |
| Get on to your health services nurse (or Personnel) and make the
suggestion. Chances are that the nurse is under so much work that she
hasn't had a chance to think of it. We have had a couple of Stress
Management and Handling Change seminars/workshops at LKG. Also the
Secretarial Committee sponsored a fun, upbeat speaker - Norm Bossio.
He is a talented speaker with refreshing humor about stress and the human
condition.
My message is, don't wait for someone to provide a resource, go ask for
it!
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| 2275.4 | my $0.02 | GRANMA::MWANNEMACHER | Lights out, party's over! | Wed Dec 16 1992 10:00 | 4 |
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These courses are offered, I think to make it mandatory is ridiculous.
Mike
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| 2275.5 | Please, don't coerce | TLE::SAVAGE | | Wed Dec 16 1992 11:01 | 3 |
| The concept of _making_ people go for help won't work, IMHO. For it to
be effective, person must _want_ that have that kind of help. If they
don't ask for it, don't force it on them.
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| 2275.6 | You Could Be Right | WMOIS::STYVES_A | | Wed Dec 16 1992 12:16 | 25 |
| RE .4
RE .5
For the most part, I agree that the most effective help
can be obtained when the person needing the help steps
forward and asks for it. The sad truth of the matter, I'm
afraid,is that not all people have the strength to ask for
that help. There are many, many people that for one reason
or another need that gentle push in the right direction.
Fear of the unknown can be a completely debilitating factor
that turns the outwardly strong man or woman into jelly. If
everyone was told that their group was to attend a stress
management seminar, then that person could hopefully get the
help he/she needs by simple "tagging along" with the rest of
the people in the group.
Truth be known, I'm really not a trained anything. Just another
nameless, faceless tiny frustrated cog in an ever shrinking
wheel.
PEACE
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| 2275.7 | Middle ground? | TLE::SAVAGE | | Wed Dec 16 1992 13:05 | 12 |
| Re: .6:
I guess there's some room for maneuver here. I can accept a gentle
pull (not a push), "Come on everyone, I'm going and I think this (EAP)
seminar would be good for all of us." but not, "You WILL attend along
with everyone else, and that's a direct order!" The one person who
needs the help most will, at best, go through the motions of
'participating' while filled with resentment toward the directive and
problem denial (mentally blocking out all potentially useful messages).
I'm not a trained psychiatric counselor either, just an ordinarily
reasonable guy; and these are just my opinions.
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| 2275.8 | Ve haff vays of making you relax ... | NASZKO::ROBERT | | Wed Dec 16 1992 13:06 | 3 |
| "Mandatory stress reduction:" is an oxymorn.
- g
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| 2275.9 | | GRANMA::MWANNEMACHER | Lights out, party's over! | Wed Dec 16 1992 16:30 | 9 |
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RE: .6 I guess the "Investment In Excellence" mandatory training left a
bad taste in my mouth. :')
Peace to you as well,
Mike
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| 2275.10 | Managers need the most help. | CASDOC::MEAGHER | So many books, so little time | Thu Dec 17 1992 09:02 | 20 |
| I think the stress in this company would be greatly reduced if the effort that
goes into the EAP were channeled instead into helping management communicate
better.
The managers are greatly in need of people who can:
o Assess the information that's being given out to the rest of us and let them
know that we won't believe it or accept it if it's badly written
o Write memos that make sense (and can be read and understood by the rest of
us)
o Write memos filled with sentences that either contain actual information or
convey the impression that a human being stands behind the words
o Make the managers understand that they themselves are fostering cynicism,
derision, and contempt in the rest of us because they're so poor at explaining
what's going on
Vicki Meagher
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| 2275.11 | Give me a memo, ANY memo... | MR4DEC::FBUTLER | | Thu Dec 17 1992 09:40 | 9 |
| re: -.1
From where I sit, I think it would be great if we could just get mgmt
to write memos... period!
And who knows? There might actually be some information in them...
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| 2275.12 | I tried | WRKSYS::QUEBEC | | Thu Dec 17 1992 09:59 | 3 |
| I made an appointment....10:00 today. It go cancelled.
go figure
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| 2275.13 | | ECADSR::SHERMAN | Steve ECADSR::Sherman DTN 223-3326 MLO5-2/26a | Thu Dec 17 1992 12:15 | 10 |
| re: .11
>From where I sit, I think it would be great if we could just get mgmt
>to write memos... period!
WELL! That we can handle! Do:
$ VTX MM
Steve ;)
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| 2275.14 | VTX MM is obsolete | SCAACT::RESENDE | Y R U U? | Thu Dec 17 1992 13:15 | 1 |
| VTX MM has not been updated since August. That's a lifetime.
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| 2275.15 | Dept. of Redundancy Dept. | MR4DEC::FBUTLER | | Thu Dec 17 1992 13:44 | 8 |
| re: -.1
My point exactly...Thanks. As has been said many times (like most
other things...) it's not that we have poor communication within the
company, it's that we have NO communication. I don't know when I'll
stop being amazed at what I see around me...
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| 2275.16 | | ECADSR::SHERMAN | Steve ECADSR::Sherman DTN 223-3326 MLO5-2/26a | Thu Dec 17 1992 17:26 | 5 |
| re: .14-.15
Hey, didn't you notice the winking smiley?
Steve
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| 2275.17 | Suicide hurts Everyone | JULIET::MORALES_NA | Revenating Generue | Sat Dec 19 1992 22:11 | 19 |
| .1
I have had two men very close to me commit suicide. Both men told me
they were going to in different ways. One said he was going on trip,
but didn't think he'd be back. He was my best friend's husband, I was
only 19 at the time.
The second was my brother-in-law who told me how he was going to do it,
so that my sister and the kids could collect all the insurance the
military provided. I was 21 at that time.
Nonetheless, those suicides left me feeling guilty, helpless and
depressed. Your ex-wife may need some comforting and support during
this time. Perhaps, if your relationship permits, you could encourage
her to talk wi someone.
For me, I turned my heart towards G_d. That's how I found solace.
Nancy
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