| T.R | Title | User | Personal Name
 | Date | Lines | 
|---|
| 2129.1 | Tail wags dog? | MR4DEC::FBUTLER |  | Thu Sep 24 1992 12:17 | 20 | 
|  |     re: .0
    
    One of the reasons maybe that once again we have been too eager in
    wanting to present some "good" news about DEC, and have pushed ALPHA to
    quickly with the press/customerbase, and are now having troubles
    delivering...I keep hearing about slips in OSF f/t dates, porting
    problems, (GKS and ORACLE), and god knows what else.
    
    Incidently, this prospect scares me to death, and has since before
    DECworld...with our current "state-of-affairs" we can ill-afford to
    stumble like this on a product rollout.  Keep in mind that there have
    only been "program announcements", as opposed to a product
    announcement.  It seems to me that this is something we have created to
    make ourselves feel comfortable, but is meaningless to the public. 
    When Ken stood on the stage at the stockholders meeting last november
    and pointed to a prototype pc style box, and talked about Alpha,
    everyone began counting the days.  For the most part, I think they are
    still counting?
    
    Jim
 | 
| 2129.2 | Re: 2129.1 | STAR::PARKE | True Engineers Combat Obfuscation | Thu Sep 24 1992 13:06 | 5 | 
|  | > delivering...I keep hearing about slips in OSF f/t dates, porting
> problems, (GKS and ORACLE), and gog knows what else
Hmm, VMS Seems to be on track
 | 
| 2129.3 | Patience - Our time will come | MAIL::ROGERS |  | Thu Sep 24 1992 13:13 | 18 | 
|  |     H-P and Intel have both done a good job of de-fusing our program
    announcements by making program announcements of their own.  They've
    basically said that by the time Alpha is fully available and supports
    all commercial software, they will be shipping chips with "similar"
    performance.
    
    We could say, "Yes, but our follow-on will be even faster...", but we
    probably need to deliver in quantity before such counter-claims will be
    taken seriously.
    
    And IMHO, although Alpha is critical to our future, it is not
    sufficient to guarantee our success.  We must become truly competitive
    and customer-oriented in attitude, thought and deed.  At this point, 
    I think we're like the alcoholic who has finally hit bottom and finally 
    decided to change.  Now we all have to work hard and learn how to 
    live sober.
    
    
 | 
| 2129.4 | FUD gets overturned by reality! | IW::WARING | Silicon,*Software*,Services | Thu Sep 24 1992 14:01 | 7 | 
|  | Most customers are still wearing that invisible headband that reads:
			"What's in it for me".
A chip that's not selling in CPU's has no MIPS... or useful applications.
								- Ian W.
 | 
| 2129.5 | Press Clipping "pointer" - fyi | GRANMA::EHEROLD | The only constant is change! | Thu Sep 24 1992 14:48 | 296 | 
|  | 
Subject: Alpha Directory of Public Information 
								 4/1/92
								 4:30 pm
	 ---------------------------------------------------------------
	 SPECIAL NOTICE: The hotline for customer information is
	 1-800-DEC-2717 or 1-800-DEC-2515 (TTY), or (508) 568-6868 (local),
	 NOT 1-800-DIGITAL as some copies of the information sheet state.
	 ----------------------------------------------------------------
         SPECIAL NOTICE: The directory MSBCS"ALPHA_CUST":: contains 
	 several files that have been made available online externally (e.g.,
	 Internet). The file ABOUT_CRL.TXT describes one of the
	 distribution methods. 
	 ----------------------------------------------------------------
	 
	 	              Alpha Public Directory
	 	 
	 Copy files into your account by typing:
	        SPOOL COPY MSBCS"ALPHA_INFO"::filename *.*
         Report any problems, comments, or questions to MSBCS::ALPHA_INFO. 
	 	 
	 Additional information can be found on VTX OPAL. Use the "Alpha"
         keyword, or look for Alpha on the Marketing Group menu.
         If you are creating your own Alpha presentation from scratch using
         DECpresent, you need to copy all the files starting with "CUSTOM_"
         into your account.
	 This directory contains the following types of files:
	 
	       .sli	 revisable DECpresent Version 1
	       .doc	 revisable DECwrite Version 2
	       .ps	 PostScript
	       .txt	 ascii
	       .eps	 encapsulated PostScript
	       .epsf	 encapsulated PostScript
	       .pict and .gif 	 industry-standard file formats for a
			 variety of platforms such as DECwrite, DECpresent,
			 MicroSoft Word, WordPerfect, Quark XPress, and
			 Page Maker.
	  ===============================================================
	 The current files in the Alpha public directory are:
Customer Presentations
         CUSTOMER_OVERVIEW.PS          Alpha customer presentation in color
				       PostScript, 34 slides. (Revisable
				       DECpresent file available.) This
				       overview covers: 
					o February announcement overview
					  and key messages
					o Alpha technology (architecture,
					  microprocessor)
					o Planning for Alpha
					o Open Computing platform Strategy
         CUSTOMER_OVERVIEW.SLI          Revisable file for above
					presentation. Needs style
					file CUSTOMER_PRES_WB.SLI_STYLE
					and ALPHA_LOGO_WB.EPS.
         CUSTOMER_PRES_WB.SLI_STYLE     Style file used by
				        CUSTOMER_OVERVIEW.SLI
         CUSTOMER_OVERVIEW_SCRIPT.TXT   Script notes for customer
				        presentation.
         ALPHA_LOGO_WB.EPS		Logo file used by
					CUSTOMER_OVERVIEW.SLI.
Analyst Presentations
	  DIGITAL-TM-UNLOGO-32PT.EPS;1	These two Encapsulated Postscript
	  FORMAT_OPTION_-_B_W.EPSF2;1	files are needed for all three
					DECwrite Analyst Presentations
	  DECSTATION-5000MOD-200.EPS;1	These Encapsultated Postscript 
	  DECSYSTEM-5000MOD-200.EPS;1	files are needed for the 
	  DECSYSTEM-5500.EPS;1		ALPHA_CURRENT_PROD 
	  DECSYSTEM-5900.EPS;1		DECwrite Presentation
	  ARCHITECTURE_CHIP.DOC;1	Dan Dobberpuhl's Technical
 	  ARCHITECTURE_CHIP.PS;1	Analyst Presentation on the
	  CISC_MICROPROCESSORS.CHART    Architecture, Process Technology
					and Chip (22 pages; available in
					both V2.0 DECwrite and PostScript)
	  OPEN_BUSINESS.DOC;1	   	    Bob Supnik's Open
 	  OPEN_BUSINESS.PS;1		    Business Practices
          PRELIM_OPEN_BUSINESS_SCRIPT.TXT   Analyst Briefing
					Presentation covering the business
					goals, strategies and licensing
					arrangements for Alpha (12 pages;
					available in both V2.0 DECwrite and
					PostScript). The preliminary script
					file for this presentation is
					included.
	  ALPHA_CURRENT_PROD.DOC;1	Rick Frazier's Investment
	  ALPHA_CURRENT_PROD.PS;1	Protection Analyst Briefing
					Presentation covering both VAX,
					DECsystem or both coexistence and
					migration of current system products
					with Alpha (11 pages, available in
					both V2 DECwrite and PostScript)
Press Material
         PRESS_RELEASE.TXT	       Overview press release 2/25/92.
         PRESS_FACTSHEET.TXT           Fact sheet distributed to press and
				       analysts needing more information to
				       write about the 21064 microprocessor
				       February 25, 1992.
         PRESS_BACKGROUNDER.TXT        Backgrounder from 2/25 press kit.
         PRESS_RELEASE_MICROSOFT.TXT   MicroSoft and Digital press release
				       2/25/92.
         PRESS_RELEASE_KUBOTA.TXT      Kubota press release 2/25/92.
         PRESS_CLIPPINGS_JAN_FEB.TXT      Summaries of articles that appeared
	 PRESS_CLIPPINGS_FEB17_FEB21.TXT  in the U.S. business and trade
	 PRESS_CLIP_JAN_FEB17.TXT         press.
	 PRESS_CLIP_FEB_MAR.TXT
         CLIP_ANALYSIS_MAR23.TXT        Analysis of how the business and
	 CLIP_ANALYSIS_FEB.TXT		trade press conveyed the key
	 CLIP_ANALYSIS_MAR3-30.TXT	messages Digital wished to convey
	 CLIP_ANALYSIS_GIA.TXT		about Alpha.
         PRESS_RELEASE_CRAY.TXT        Press release for 2/12/92 Cray
				       announcement to use Alpha chips.
	 PRESS_BOSTON_GLOBE_FEB16.TXT  Pre-announcement article in 2/16/92
	                               Boston Globe.
	 
	 PR_BACKGROUNDER.TXT           Pre-announcement public relations
				       background for the Alpha Program. 
	 PUBLIC_STATEMENTS_DEC_91.TXT  Pre-announcement public statements
				       on the Alpha program released at
				       DECUS December 1991.
	 
Customer Literature
         INFOSHEET.TXT		       Ascii copy of the 21064 Microprocessor
				       information sheet. 
 
         INFOSHEET.PS		       PostScript copy of the 21064
				       Microprocessor information sheet. 
         PRODUCT_BRIEF.PS              PostScript copy of the product
                                       brief, a detailed, technical
				       overview of the 21064 chip.
         VMSPLAN.PS                    Two-page leave-behind for senior
                                       managers questions on planning for
				       VMS on VAX and Alpha. Feedback
				       requested by VMSMKT::CERELLA.
Miscellaneous
         Q_AND_A.TXT		       Questions and answers, for internal
				       use only.
         Q_AND_A_SHORT.TXT             The short version of the questions
				       and answers, internal only.
         ISSCC.TXT                     Paper presented at ISSCC conference
				       2/20 by Dan Dobberpuhl.
	alpha_graphic_bb.epsf		Alpha graphic/black
					background
	alpha_graphic_wb.epsf		Alpha graphic/white
					background
		
	alpha_graphic_bw.epsf		Alpha graphic/black
					and white
	alpha_ready_bb.epsf		Alpha ready
					graphic/black
					background
	alpha_ready_wb.epsf		Alpha ready
					graphic/white
					background
	alpha_ready_bw.epsf		Alpha ready
					graphic/black and
					white
	 CHIP_BLOCK_DIAGRAM.PS	       Block diagram showing caches and
				       boxes. Can be attached to the Fact
				       Sheet.
	 RESOURCES.TXT		       List of resources for the Alpha
				       program. (From 2/18 DVN.)
	 
	 CUSTOM_35MM.SLI_STYLE;1       Use this file to create your own
				       presentation using DECpresent. RENAME
				       the file after you open it.
	 CUSTOM_35MM_EX.SLI;1          Examples of the format, text, and
				       colors.
	 CUSTOM_DEC_LOGO_COLOR.EPS;1   Digital logo, must be in your
			 	       directory so links can be made.
         ALPHA_BW_LOGO.GIF	       Alpha logo in B&W GIF format.
         ALPHA_LOGO_COLOR.GIF	       Alpha logo in color GIF format.
         ALPHA_BW_LOGO.PICT	       Alpha logo in B&W PICT format.
         ALPHA_LOGO_COLOR.PICT	       Alpha logo in color PICT format.
Open VMS Presentations (NOT IN THIS PUBLIC DIRECTORY, COPY BY TYPING:
	        SPOOL COPY VMSMKT"OpenVMS_Info"::filename *.*
         OpenVMS_Directions.PS         Alpha Open VMS customer presentation 
    				       in color PostScript, 53 slides. 
    				       (Revisable DECpresent file available.) 
    				       This presentation covers:
					o Today's Open VMS systems
					o Leadership Price/Performance
    					o Leadership Functionality
    					o Leadership Openess
					o Alpha Program
         OpenVMS_Directions.SLI         Revisable DECpresent file for above
					presentation. 
         OpenVMS.SLI_STYLE              Style file used by
				        Open_VMS_Directions.SLI
         OpenVMS_Adds.PS                Additional slides for the Alpha Open
    					VMS customer presentation - to be 
    					used to modify presentation to suit
    					needs of particular audiences 
    					Slides on:
    					o  New VAX systems
    					o  VAXclusters
    					o  Adding in Alpha systems
    					o  Investment Protection
    					o  Price/Performance
         OpenVMS_Adds.SLI               Revisable DECpresent file for above
					presentation. 
	 TPC-A_Slides.PS		The Latest revisions of the TPC-A
					slides which are in:
					 - OpenVMS_Directions.PS or .SLI
					    (slides 20,21,22)
					 - OpenVMS_Adds.PS or .SLI
					    (slides 31,32,33,34,35)
         TPC-A_Slides.SLI               Revisable DECpresent file for above
					presentation.  
         OpenVMS_for_CSO.PS             Alpha Open VMS for CSO's presentation 
    				        in color PostScript, ~100 slides. 
    				        (Revisable DECpresent file available.) 
         OpenVMS_for_CSO.SLI            Revisable DECpresent file for above
					presentation. Please note that it 
					will be also necessary to copy over 
					the Alpha*.eps files to modify or 
					use this file.
         OpenVMS_CSO.SLI_STYLE          Style file used by
				        Open_VMS_Directions.SLI 
    	 Platform_Strategy.PS		The Digital Platform Strategy 
    					presentation with the Open VMS 
    					introduction
         Platform_Strategy.SLI          Revisable DECpresent file for above
					presentation. 
    	 Top_10.PS			Presenter Tips slides and Top 10 
    					Reasons for Buying Open VMS Slides.
         Top_10.SLI                     Revisable DECpresent file for above
					presentation. 
 | 
| 2129.6 | Its not real until the customers can USE it. | GUIDUK::FARLEE | Insufficient Virtual...um...er... | Thu Sep 24 1992 15:04 | 25 | 
|  | Why isn't the Business world as excited about Alpha as we are?
Because there is (currently) NO (released) software applications which run
on this spiffy new platform.  Therefore, Alpha solves no business needs at
present.
As soon as there are full-blown production suites which customers can put into
production to solve their business problems, as soon as we start saving some
customers' butts by providing this wonderful platform, THEN they will get
excited and (hopefully) start beating a path to our door.
Intel, etc. get attention for their new technology because, since it is only a
refinement of existing platforms, and not the quantum leap which we are making, 
there is already a VERY LARGE base of software ready and waiting.
For us, this is a bigger leap than PDP-VAX because you could run PDP code in
compatibility mode on a VAX.  Can you do the same for VAX -> Alpha?
Again, this is not doom-and-gloom.  There is light at the end of the tunnel. 
It is the time when we have enough applications available on Alpha that
customers can make use of the horsepower. 
I just pray that it happens in time.
Kevin
 | 
| 2129.7 | Advertise ??? - What a concept! | GRANMA::EHEROLD | The only constant is change! | Thu Sep 24 1992 15:24 | 36 | 
|  | 
	RE:.0
	Steve,
	I shared your concern with Alpha product management and marketing.
	The clippings "pointer" in .5 should help you locate what has
	been said in "the press" to date regarding Alpha.
	<flame-on>
	IMHO Digital has a major public "identity problem" as a corporation!
	For several YEARS the VMS Partners have been **SCREAMING** and
	**PLEADING** for Digital to **ADVERTISE** in order to gain the
	mindshare of the average person on the street as well as the people
	who influence major purchases of computer gear.  Digital has not
	invested in getting "name recognition" in the marketplace.
	The result is that HP and SUN are capable of waltzing into major
	accounts and convincing customers that THEY have "open systems".
	Why? Because they have full page ads in weekly magazines that 
	say they are "open"... so it must be true!  
	In many cases Digital is struggling just to regain the attention of
	former customers who are now "kicking the tires" on HP and SUN 
	systems. I'm seeing this daily in accounts that I support!
	<flame-off>
	Ok... you've got the data on Alpha... let's get out there and SELL!
	(until sales/sales support is downsized by another 20% next quarter)
	-Ed
 | 
| 2129.8 |  | AOSG::NORDLINGER | To reach the unreachable STAR:: | Thu Sep 24 1992 15:28 | 22 | 
|  | .6>Because there is (currently) NO (released) software applications which run
.6>on this spiffy new platform.  Therefore, Alpha solves no business needs at
.6>present.
    
    There are many applications on Alpha as was demonstrated at DECworld
    and DECUS. Vendors have been receiving enabling technologies for over 
    six-months, like TCP/IP. The major databases will be there when the 
    products ship. TWG and SAS demoed at DECworld and DECUS. 
    
    So, fortunately things are not nearly as bleak as they could be. There
    will be lots of applications even before when customers can order Alpha 
    systems, both for Alpha/VMS and Alpha/OSF. 
    
    Intel's P5 is far from just a refinement, including the need for 
    compiler changes - Witness Intel's apparent need to change the name
    of the 586 to suggest just this point. 
    
    Finally, you can do better than run code in compatibility mode.
    DECmigrate lets you run VAX (or MIPS) images on an AlphaVMS (or
    AlphaOSF) platform as native Alpha images!
    
    
 | 
| 2129.9 |  | ISOISA::HAKKARAINEN | Beatniks out to make it rich. | Thu Sep 24 1992 16:19 | 13 | 
|  | The announcements surrounding Alpha have brought about the first real
public awareness of Digital's products. Family and friends (people not
in the computer industry) keep asking us about Alpha: How is is going?
What's next? There is genuine interest and excitement, far more than
what I've seen inside the company. (In many places within DEC, Alpha
is just another faster chip.)
There is no question that advertising by Digital would do wonders for
the morale of employees and, we suspect, very good things for people
who might want to buy our products. 
(In the ``watches'' dept.: not that long ago, a member of my family 
took a look at a CD player I was installing and said, ``Digital, huh?'')
 | 
| 2129.10 | IDEA to spread the word! | NIOMAX::LAING | Soft-Core Cuddler*Jim Laing*232-2635 | Thu Sep 24 1992 16:20 | 23 | 
|  |     I just called the DECchip Information Line (DTN 225-6868, as described
    in the Sept 8th issue of DTW).  I requested some info.  I asked about
    "promotional" items/momentos.  They do have a "laminated business card"
    for $2 cross-charge to a CC.
    
    I sent the following suggestion to the DECchip info ...
    
    As a way to help employees spread the word about Alpha, could these
    "laminated business cards" be made more readily available?  (I
    mentioned that I'd probably buy a dozen or so to spread around to
    non-DEC friends/associates that ask about Alpha!)  With all the cost-
    containment, it's not as easy (IMHO) to get CC vouchers and to charge
    things to your CC.  So, if these cards were made available at the "Logo
    Stores" that are scattered throughout DEC sites, or some other more
    direct channel, I'd bet that DEC employees would help spread the word
    about Alpha!  Giving a "laminated card" that cost $2 (or even less if
    we buy 'em by the dozen, perhaps?)  would get the Alpha name into alot
    more people's hands and minds!
    
    If anyone here knows who might listen to such an idea, pass it along!
    
    	Jim Laing	
    	232-2635	USLS IM&T
 | 
| 2129.11 | Good enuff may not be good enuff | GUCCI::HERB | Al is the *first* name | Thu Sep 24 1992 22:42 | 12 | 
|  |     >There are many applications on Alpha as was demonstrated at DECworld
    >and DECUS. Vendors have been receiving enabling technologies for over
    >six-months, like TCP/IP. The major databases will be there when the
    >products ship. TWG and SAS demoed at DECworld and DECUS.
    
    As someone who works in Sun's #1 corporate account, I'd like to say
    that less than 25 customers out of 40,000 attended either DECworld or
    DECUS presentations. This is US Government.
    
    We should not assume then that the majority of our customers "get the
    word" simply because we hit what DEC views as the most important
    marketing channels.
 | 
| 2129.12 |  | SDSVAX::SWEENEY | Patrick Sweeney in New York | Thu Sep 24 1992 22:58 | 9 | 
|  |     As I wrote in the MARKETING conference, the principal problem that
    Digital faces in recovery beyond having a tangible product in Alpha is
    having a credible message.
    
    No one believes us.
    
    The "slack" that is cut for IBM, Microsoft, Apple, and HP just isn't
    given to Digital, not by the trade press, and not by the investment
    community either.
 | 
| 2129.13 |  | BALMER::MUDGETT | One Lean, Mean Whining Machine | Fri Sep 25 1992 04:34 | 10 | 
|  | What we need is our own urban legend. I've got one:
Rember the lites that we used to have on the 1140's or the
DEC 10 memory boxes? We could point to them and say that that
is the instruction being completed. We need to put a blank
strip of the front door, when everyone asks what the strip is
for we can say that we had a 64 led array. We took it out when
the speed of the Alpha kept wearing/burning/blowing-up the leds.
Fred M.
 | 
| 2129.14 | been there - done that | CVG::THOMPSON | Radical Centralist | Fri Sep 25 1992 07:37 | 10 | 
|  | >For us, this is a bigger leap than PDP-VAX because you could run PDP code in
>compatibility mode on a VAX.  Can you do the same for VAX -> Alpha?
	I've moved applications from PDP-11 to VAX and VAX to Alpha AXP. VAX
	to ALPHA was easier. Compatability mode only worked better then so so
	for RSX images. There was an aweful lot of commercial software on RSTS
	systems that didn't move well. Some of it is *still* on PDP-11s. Believe
	me moving VAX to AXP will be easier for commercial accounts.
			Alfred
 | 
| 2129.15 | :7) | GJO001::REITER |  | Fri Sep 25 1992 08:52 | 8 | 
|  |     Something else that might be helpful on our future hardware offerings
    would be a 2-position selector switch, simply labeled:
    
    	[ OPEN ]	  and 		[ PROPRIETARY ]
    
    This would settle a LOT of arguments and the trade press could go do
    something else.
    \Gary
 | 
| 2129.16 | our experience | EOS::ARMSTRONG |  | Fri Sep 25 1992 08:53 | 13 | 
|  |     We've ported out internal CAD software to Alpha and when
    we demo it for internal customers, it's so fast they think
    we are somehow pulling their leg.  Operations that they typically
    start, wait, and then see complete are done before their finger
    leaves the keyboard.  Operations that they used to do in batch
    overnight can now be done on line, during a short break.
    We've ported this system from the 10 to Vax and support it on all
    the various flavors of computing.  This is the first time the
    performance has really changed.
    It is truly a faster machine.  I hope our customers will try it out.
    bob
 | 
| 2129.17 | We do this EVERY time!!!! | SUFRNG::REESE_K | Three Fries Short of a Happy Meal | Fri Sep 25 1992 10:06 | 17 | 
|  |     The last few notes in the string are promising; but it looks like
    many of you are not aware of a major problem........we DO NOT have
    part #s and pricing for the SW that apparently many of you have seen
    demo'd on an Alpha system.
    
    So I'd like to ask a question 2129.7:
    
    >OK... you've got the data on Alpha...let's get out there and SELL!!
    
    Sales reps cannot quote or give estimates of cost of ownership without
    part #s; like it or not!  So getting the word out to the masses won't
    mean squat if we can't provide the sales force with part #s and pricing
    for the SW (you know, for those opportunities when a potential customer
    might ask for such data)!
    
    Karen
    
 | 
| 2129.19 | Here's publicity... | MAIL::ROGERS |  | Fri Sep 25 1992 11:45 | 16 | 
|  |     Here's another good one for you...
    
    I was talking yesterday to a "civilian", a lawyer who we have done some
    work with in the past.  He told me that last weekend he was at a
    cocktail party when one of the other guests started talking about
    computers.
    
    My friend is interested in computers so he started listening to this
    other guy gushing about how performance is multiplying, and how great
    things are going to be real soon.  Then the guy started talking about
    Alpha, this wonderful new chip technology which was going to blow
    everyone's doors off.
    
    My friend was making a mental note to tell me how the word was starting
    to get out to the public, but then the other guy finished off by
    saying, "Yeah, IBM has really done a great job on this Alpha."
 | 
| 2129.20 |  | STAR::ABBASI | the risk of cooking the x-mass turkey | Fri Sep 25 1992 11:56 | 5 | 
|  |     >saying, "Yeah, IBM has really done a great job on this Alpha."
    
    I thought we did ALPHA ?!!
    
    
 | 
| 2129.21 |  | SDSVAX::SWEENEY | Patrick Sweeney in New York | Fri Sep 25 1992 12:12 | 4 | 
|  |     re: .-1
    
    Do you really not know, or is this another attempt at humor by saying
    something that is just stupid and not funny?
 | 
| 2129.22 | while we're on the topic... | CTHQ::LANGLOIS | CT/TS | Fri Sep 25 1992 16:22 | 134 | 
|  | +---------------------------+ TM
|   |   |   |   |   |   |   |
| d | i | g | i | t | a | l |   I n t e r o f f i c e  M e m o r a n d u m
|   |   |   |   |   |   |   |
+---------------------------+
    TO:  Distribution			DATE:  22 September 1992
     					FROM:  Peter Conklin,
					       Peter Graham,
					       Ken Swanton
			  	 	DEPT:  Alpha & VAX Systems
    SUBJECT:   Alpha AXP (TM) Names and Trademarks 
                     *** DIGITAL INTERNAL USE ONLY ***
    The following memo details use of the names Alpha AXP (TM) and 
    AXP (TM). It also addresses use of the graphic image associated with
    the name AXP. It addresses many of the usage questions raised during
    the past several weeks.
    The general objective is the wide use of the new names and graphic
    image in our marketing, given Alpha's strong market recognition.
    Under legal advice, we will not use the word Alpha in any product
    names.  Alpha AXP (TM) will be used only in reference to the computer
    architecture. We will use AXP and the AXP mark in product names. We
    will license AXP and the AXP mark to partners.
    Alpha AXP (TM) Names: 
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 
    The AXP (TM) and Alpha AXP (TM) trademarks are to be used internally
    and publicly immediately.  Note--"AXP" is explicitly NOT an acronym.
    It is a unique trademark being registered around the world to
    identify with and represent the "Alpha" products. Similarly, the
    "AXP" is not to be used as a formative with other names (i.e., used
    as a stem to form other one-word names).
    Both AXP (TM) and Alpha AXP (TM) should be marked with TM wherever
    used. The TM should be subscript (i.e., small TM under the "P" of
    AXP). 
	Architecture Name:
        Alpha AXP (TM) as a name is to be used only in the context 
        "architecture" or "family" where family means architecture family. 
		Alpha AXP (TM) Architecture
	Product Names:
		Internal Name		Formal Alpha AXP (TM) Name
		-------------		--------------------------
		Cobra Server		DEC 4000 AXP (TM) Server
		Sandpiper Workstation	DEC 3000 AXP (TM) Workstation
		  etc.
		N.B.--  The initial product medallions remain as we established
			last summer to expedite achieving FRS goals.
    		AVMS system		OpenVMS AXP (TM) Operating System
    		GEM Fortran compiler  DEC FORTRAN for OpenVMS AXP (TM) Compiler
		  etc.
	Marketing Usage:
		Title of "Alpha Vision" Brochure	Alpha AXP (TM) Family
		Title of "Alpha Systems" Infosheet	Alpha AXP (TM) Systems
    		Alpha-ready program			Alpha-ready program
	          etc.
	Partner Usage:
		Cray Alpha System		 Cray XYZ AXP (TM) System
		Olivetti Alpha System		 Olivetti XYZ AXP (TM) System
                N.B.--  Partners must include a trademarked word (AXP) in
                        their name, so that the final name of their
                        product is: Cray XYZ AXP (TM)...with a footnote
                        that "AXP is a trademark of Digital Equipment
                        Corporation and Cray XYZ is a trademark of Cray
                        Research". This usage is carefully constructed to
    			follow industry norms, e.g., the PC industry. The
    			partner usage and our usage will be the same.
		=============================================
    Alpha AXP mark 
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
    With this memo, we are replacing the old Alpha graphic with the new
    one in all uses connected with Alpha, but not those with the
    Alpha-ready program. (The Alpha-ready program will use no Alpha
    graphic, as the previous Alpha graphic will not be used after the
    Alpha product announcements.)
    The AXP (TM) name and mark will be licensed to our hardware and CSO
    partners once the Corporate Legal Department completes the
    appropriate text for licensing agreements.  Until then, only Digital
    is to use them. The name Alpha AXP (TM) will not be licensed, instead
    it will be retained by Digital because we control the integrity of
    the architecture.
    Many elements of the Alpha AXP (TM) program will incorporate use of a
    colorful, marble textured background field (e.g. This field will show
    up on the bezel of the Alpha AXP (TM) systems and servers).  Commonly
    referred to as the "purple haze," this colorful field is to be
    retained by Digital and never licensed. It is to be used by Digital
    for external purposes starting with the announcement. It is to
    be used now only for announcement related products and deliverables
    that have been sanctioned by the Alpha Program Office.
    Jackie Jones (MSBCS::JONES) and Myles Falvella (MSBCS::FALVELLA) will
    be sending out a complete set of specifications on how to use the
    Alpha AXP names and accompanying trademark/graphic.  Erik Goetze will
    be managing the on-line versions of this mark as part of the
    Corporate clipart library.  These complete name and trademark details
    will be sent electronically to all product management, product
    marketing management and marketing communications professionals
    corporate wide.  Additionally, a separate section of the Corporate
    Identity Manual will contain the complete specifications on use of
    the Alpha AXP (TM) name and trademark.
    The AXP mark (which is the name of the diamondish symbol or graphic)
    is to be used externally immediately.  It must be TM marked in all
    such use for now. Remember that trademarks are always used as an
    adjective, and hence MUST ALWAYS BE FOLLOWED BY A NOUN.
  
    
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| 2129.23 | I dont undertsand this one | STAR::ABBASI | the risk of cooking the x-mass turkey | Fri Sep 25 1992 17:06 | 28 | 
|  |  ref .21 SDSVAX::SWEENEY "Patrick Sweeney in New York"
    >Do you really not know, or is this another attempt at humor by saying
    >something that is just stupid and not funny?
    Offcourse I knew we make alpha, and I know you know that I know that,
    and knowing this then you must knew what all I said was no different 
    from what others are saying when complaining that we in DEC are not 
    marketing alpha well and that is why people dont know much about it, 
    i just expressed my frustration with our lack of marketing of alpha in 
    a different way. 
    the note before me said about someone thinking IBM did alpha, and my
    comment was sort of making believe of that to emphasis our shortage on
    marketing alpha to the outside world.
    what is so earth shattering about that for you?
    at least you could have made your rude comment to me via mail like you
    normally do, that would have been easier on both of us and the rest of
    the world.
    you cant wait for a chance to hit on me, i wish i knew the reason for
    that.
    /Nasser
    
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| 2129.24 | Come on folks | 36345::ANDERSON | Bye George | Fri Sep 25 1992 17:08 | 3 | 
|  | We're all making sure this note doesn't get out of hand, right?
Paul, co-moderator Digital
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| 2129.25 |  | BSS::C_BOUTCHER |  | Fri Sep 25 1992 17:10 | 1 | 
|  |     why should this note be an exception??
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| 2129.26 |  | CSOA1::LENNIG | Dave (N8JCX), MIG, Cincinnati | Fri Sep 25 1992 17:52 | 9 | 
|  |     re: .21  - chill out dude
    re: .19 - So what was the ending to the story; Did the friend correct
    the groups misunderstanding, and if so what was their reaction?
    (I can see it now; "Digital who??")
    
    Dave
    
    PS - The parenthesized expresion above is an attempt at 'wry humor'
    	(like .20) alluding to our lack of marketplace recognition.
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| 2129.27 |  | TLE::FELDMAN | Larix decidua, var. decify | Fri Sep 25 1992 18:19 | 15 | 
|  | re: .8 (a belated nit, or possibly more than a nit)
My understanding is that Intel is changing the name from 586 to P5? to something
else for trademark reasons.  Courts have ruled that they can't trademark
a number or number set such as *86.  Intel believes that this has hurt them,
because competitors are allowed to sell chips that are called 486 chips.  Hence,
they will give their future processors names that can be trademarked.
It may be that the gap between P5 and the 486 is qualitatively larger than
the gap between the 486 and 386, or that it will require substantive compiler
changes.  It may even be the case that Intel will exploit the name change to
emphasize the newer features.  But I don't believe that that's their major
motivation.
  Gary
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| 2129.28 | Alpha is a tool, not a solution | 42702::WELSH | If you don't like change, teach Latin | Mon Sep 28 1992 08:59 | 78 | 
|  | 	Another reason why the world isn't as excited about Alpha AXP
	as some of us would like and expect, might be that it just
	isn't as big a deal as we have been telling ourselves.
	(Disclaimer: I've been with Digital since 1974, I've seen PDP8s,
	PDP11s, VAXes and DECstations, and I too am excited about Alpha.
	But I try to keep it under control and rational).
	What customers buy is application software. A spreadsheet, a CAD
	system, a payroll application, an airline booking system, a game.
	That's what they use to get the results they want.
	Hardware is just a necessary "accessory". Why have PCs taken
	off so fast that they now comprise about half of the global IT
	market by revenue? Because ordinary people can buy them and run
	almost any kind of software on them. Read any PC magazine, and
	you will see advertisements hyping "screamers" - 486s etc. - 
	that will run your favourite software faster. You'll also see
	articles arguing both sides: some proclaiming the merits of the
	new faster machines, others cautioning that there is no point
	buying a top-end 486 for $4,000 when a 286 at $500 will give
	you good enough results. But basically, the hardware is a lot
	like putting gas into a car! (Some cars run well on diesel,
	others need high-octane). The car is the software.
	Now look at Alpha, and what do you see?
	1. A new architecture for the 21st century. This is total bs,
	   and if we're lucky people will ignore it. (If we're unlucky,
	   they'll flip past the entire topic and read about something
	   credible). The world is full of new "architectures", and
	   users could care less. As for the 21st century, this is 1992,
	   and Alpha is running today, so it's 1992 technology. OK?
	2. 64 bits. Again, so what? Apart from a few college kids (old
	   and young), and people with legitimate requirements for vast
	   address spaces, this is kind of like a dog with 2 tails. To
	   the great majority of the market, 64 bits means nothing. At
	   best it's a feature that helps us deliver better performance,
	   which is something that many users DO care about.
	3. Runs all operating systems. Well, so would any other architecture
	   if someone took the trouble to port them. Besides, any given
	   user is only interested in a single OS (there are exceptions).
	4. Er, is there anything else? And people are supposed to get
	   in line for this technology that Digital has been kind enough to
	   give the world?
	What people are actually thinking about are things like:
	1. I could use a faster PC so my application won't keep me waiting.
	   So long as it runs all my existing software, doesn't cost much,
	   and is preferably upgradable from what I have today. Oh, and
	   service, support and so on have to remain at least as good.
	2. We want to "downsize" our IS systems from the mainframe - but
	   of course transparently to the users and without any risks, or
	   loss of service and support. And of course we have to move to
	   an open platform that we can buy from a number of competing
	   vendors. Otherwise we'd just be locked in to the new solution.
	3. We are so dependent on software, we are going to have to find
	   some way to make it faster and better, with fewer bugs. Why
	   not "no bugs"? But there are so many CASE gurus and tool vendors,
	   we don't know which to believe. Probably none.
	4. If we could run the scenario analysis program in 20 minutes
	   instead of overnight, we could go through a whole design cycle
	   several times a day, instead of once. That would give us an
	   edge over the competition.
	Relate Alpha to real user needs like those, and you'll win some
	business. Imagine that people will flock to our door, though,
	because of some Buck Rogers hype about hardware, and you're in
	cloud cuckoo land.
	/Tom
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| 2129.29 |  | PLAYER::BROWNL | Capitalist Piglet | Mon Sep 28 1992 09:21 | 5 | 
|  |     RE: .28
    
    Fine note that.
    
    Laurie.
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| 2129.30 | OSF databases when? | GLDOA::KATZ | Follow your conscience | Mon Sep 28 1992 09:37 | 7 | 
|  |     After attending the UNIX/RISC Symposium in CA last week I can
    tell you that there will eventually be databases available for
    Alpha/OSF but not at delivery time, i.e. March. If someone
    has information to the contrary I'd like to hear it along with
    names and email addresses.
    
    			-Jim-
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| 2129.31 | concur, .28 | BOOKS::HAMILTON | All models are false; some are useful - Dr. G. Box | Mon Sep 28 1992 16:22 | 5 | 
|  |     
    Well said, .28.  We need to put the features and benefits of the
    technology into a customer context.  
    
    Glenn
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| 2129.32 | Alpha microwave ovens! | LURE::CERLING | God doesn't believe in atheists | Fri Oct 09 1992 12:29 | 15 | 
|  |     
    Well, obviously our VP, Semiconductor Operations, knows the potential
    of the Alpha chip.  This comes from LiveWire
    
    "Ed said, `In five years, you'll be able to put the power of today's
    supercomputers in the palm of your hand.  The power of chips like Alpha
    will be used in everything from medical imaging applications to
    household products, like microwave ovens.'"
    
    Do our veeps really think that microwave ovens need the power of a
    64-bit virtual, pipelined processor?  I do not deny that more and more
    appliances will be using microprocessors to control certain functions,
    but an Alpha in a microwave?  I think we need a dose of reality.
    
    tgc  
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| 2129.33 | You mean you DON'T want... | RDVAX::KALIKOW | TFSO GHWB | Fri Oct 09 1992 12:57 | 9 | 
|  |     ... not only to enjoy your Thanksgiving turkey, but also to know just
    where to begin the blunt dissection, on the basis of the CAT-Scan that
    your Alpha Microwave just incidentally did while rotating it under the
    beam, and thoughtfully FAXed to your personal printer at tableside?
    
    For shame.
    
    :-)
    
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| 2129.34 |  | IMTDEV::BRUNO | Father Gregory | Fri Oct 09 1992 13:04 | 17 | 
|  | RE:   <<< Note 2129.32 by LURE::CERLING "God doesn't believe in atheists" >>>
 >                         -< Alpha microwave ovens! >-
    
 >    Do our veeps really think that microwave ovens need the power of a
 >    64-bit virtual, pipelined processor?
     Hmm...
     Voice-recognition software might process a wide variety of languages,
     dialects and accents with such power.  Such a microwave might be controlled
     by a phone call.  It might be able to recognize the food it is cooking,
     without human intervention.  It might be able to plot all of the vectors
     inside a hurricane at a distance of 3000 miles.
     ...but can it be made for less than $300?
                                          Greg
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| 2129.35 | i can see an alpha in a microwave oven | STAR::ABBASI | life without the DECspell ? | Fri Oct 09 1992 13:50 | 7 | 
|  |     i  agree with .34, a very smart microwave home oven can use all the
    power within the alpha chips, if we let our imaginations flow to
    its outer limits, there are no bounds to what we can do a seemingly
    what seems like a simple applications.
    /nasser
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| 2129.36 |  | ECADSR::SHERMAN | Steve ECADSR::Sherman DTN 223-3326 MLO5-2/26a | Fri Oct 09 1992 14:01 | 8 | 
|  |     I like the idea of voice-recognition and phone answering.  I can just
    see it now.
    
    "Honey, I phoned from work and told the microwave to find and cook up 
    dinner tonight.  Here, I'll get the door ...  Mmmm.  Doesn't that smell
    good!   ....  Hey   ... Where's the cat?"
    
    Steve
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| 2129.37 | if you have a problem, add more alpha chips ! | STAR::ABBASI | life without the DECspell ? | Fri Oct 09 1992 14:07 | 17 | 
|  |     ref .-1
    > I like the idea of voice-recognition and phone answering.  I can just
    > see it now.
    >"Honey, I phoned from work and told the microwave to find and cook
    >up dinner tonight.  Here, I'll get the door ...  Mmmm.  Doesn't that
    >smell    good!   ....  Hey   ... Where's the cat?"
          
    that is no problem, we will make sure that the family robot has an
    alpha chip in it too, and give it directions to go and hide the cat
    away every time it detects that the alpha chip in the microwave oven
    starting the cooking.
    /nasser
    whos_hands_were_shaking_writing_the_last_word.
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| 2129.38 | Re .32 - Microwave ovens | STAR::PARKE | True Engineers Combat Obfuscation | Fri Oct 09 1992 15:19 | 11 | 
|  |     
>    Do our veeps really think that microwave ovens need the power of a
>    64-bit virtual, pipelined processor?  I do not deny that more and more
>    appliances will be using microprocessors to control certain functions,
>    
Just think of the microwaves a 500MHZ Alpha will throw off }8-)}
You could probably cook a lot more than a turkey with them.
Bill
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| 2129.39 | AlphaWaves! I like it! | GUIDUK::FARLEE | Insufficient Virtual...um...er... | Fri Oct 09 1992 16:49 | 5 | 
|  | Hey!
We could call them ALPHAWaves ! 
Everybody knows about the calming, soothing effects of AlphaWaves,
why not capitalize on them!
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| 2129.40 |  | TLE::FELDMAN | Opportunities are our Future | Fri Oct 09 1992 17:57 | 16 | 
|  | An automatic breadmaker today is likely to have a microprocessor and a number
of temperature sensors.  This allows it to measure temperature gradiants and
adjust both the heating element and the cycle timing to achieve satisfactory
results.  It's not perfect yet; it would probably benefit from a humidity
sensor, scale, sonic or infrared distance measuring (to judge rising), and
so on.  Oh, throw in a color analyzer to bake the bread to the desired
doneness.
Imagine a combination microwave and convection oven that used image 
understanding, in addition to the above sensor, to direct the airflow to
different foods in the oven, determine that something was about to boil over
and lower the heat, rotate or stir food intelligently and so on.  
Science fiction?  Sure it is.  So was the pocket computer.  
   Gary
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| 2129.41 | Technology?  Pah! | MU::PORTER | meetings - the alternative to work | Fri Oct 09 1992 23:36 | 10 | 
|  |     re .-1
    
    Of course, in a truly advanced society, you wouldn't need
    to have gadgets to bake perfect bread.  You'd just walk
    to your neighborhood baker, where you'd be able to buy
    perfectly fresh bread, made just the way you'd like it,
    and bring it back home in far less than the time it'd
    take you to prepare it yourself.
    
    
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| 2129.42 |  | PEEVAX::QUODLING | OLIVER is the Solution! | Mon Oct 12 1992 01:41 | 5 | 
|  |     No, you'd use a replicator to create food, just like they do on Star
    Trek - TNG...
    
    q
    
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| 2129.43 | Alpha AXP strategy and the future of Digital (from VTX) | HUMAN::AVERY | Al | 293-5508 | Mon Nov 09 1992 14:35 | 114 | 
|  | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+TM                                                   ----------- 
|d|i|g|i|t|a|l|                   Worldwide News                      LIVE WIRE
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+                                                     ----------- 
                 Alpha AXP strategy and the future of Digital -- 
            'Imagine the expectations as well as the opportunities' 
  Digital's Alpha AXP announcement on Nov. 10 will be international, with 
  complementary events planned for Boston, San Jose, Tokyo, Sydney, Hong Kong,
  London, Sao Paulo, and Toronto.  The following article is designed to 
  provide the larger business context for the Nov. 10 announcement.
      -----------------------------------------------------------------
  Digital's Alpha AXP announcement is the first in a series of thunderclaps 
  that will resound for months to come, heralding a new era for Digital and 
  its customers.  Software, services, applications, partnerships, and 
  additional systems -- from desktop to data center -- will be introduced in 
  phases, as Digital brings together all the elements that customers need to 
  take advantage today of the computing capabilities of the next century.
  "Over time, we are planning to put the Alpha AXP chip in all our hardware 
  products," notes Bob Palmer, president.  "It's an outstanding architecture, 
  with a lifetime of 25 years or more ahead of it.  But technology alone is 
  not enough.  To complete the job for customers means having the 
  applications, software, systems and service, and making it all easy to buy.
  We will deliver these, as well as all our other products and services, 
  according to the highest standards of excellence in the industry."
  Digital is at the technological forefront at a moment when the nature of 
  computing is changing and demands for high performance are accelerating. 
  Increasingly, computing will be distributed and embedded in other products, 
  rather than just in its own discrete boxes.  The communications, consumer 
  electronics, and computer industries have immense opportunities to work 
  together as partners to create new business for everyone.  The Alpha AXP 
  architecture will eventually be used to advance technology in telephone 
  switches, medical imaging systems, high-definition television, and in other 
  specialized systems of many kinds.   Digital is delivering today the power 
  and features required for such growth applications as multimedia, virtual 
  reality, imaging, artificial intelligence, global information, language 
  translation, advanced simulation, and voice recognition.
  The plan is to build the large volumes necessary to keep down costs, to 
  finance further investment, build industry-wide support and momentum, and 
  establish this technology as a standard, not just in computer markets, but 
  also in far larger and rapidly growing electronics markets.
  "We have several important marketing messages we are presenting at our Alpha 
  AXP announcement on Nov. 10.  The entire program has been formed by 
  listening to customers and responding to their needs," says Win Hindle, 
  senior vice president.  "For example, we know from listening to users that 
  there is a lot of anticipation and pent-up demand for Alpha AXP systems.  
  But we also know that not everyone is ready to jump to Alpha AXP computing 
  today.  They want to evolve, blending what they use today with what Alpha AXP 
  products can do for them tomorrow.  For these users, we've created the 
  Alpha-ready Program, which enables people to use today's systems from Digital
  and move in a cost-effective way to Alpha AXP systems when they are ready.
  "The new architecture, with its long-term potential, also catches the 
  attention of prospective customers, so we are able to explain the full range
  of our products and services and how they all work together today and 
  tomorrow," Win continues.  "It also helps us to deliver on long-standing 
  commitments we have made -- including investment protection, support for 
  open systems, software, services, and business practices.  We intend to make
  this a 'universal computing platform' operating effectively with multiple 
  operating systems -- such as UNIX, Windows NT, and OpenVMS and attracting 
  the development efforts of the best software companies in the world.
  "This is the way Digital intends to help users in the 1990s and beyond. 
  We're focusing and listening with a new openness to our customers and to 
  people who aren't yet our customers."
  Working with partners, Digital is assembling a full range of Alpha AXP 
  applications.  The company is looking at customer needs industry by industry
  and investing to make sure all of today's key solutions are available on the
  new platform and encouraging development of new applications to meet needs 
  that haven't been addressed before.  More than 1000 vendors and 2000 
  applications are already committed to the Alpha AXP platform.
  While the opportunities are immense, so are the challenges.  Digital is 
  selling Alpha AXP technology at all levels of integration:  from chips and 
  boards to complete systems.
  "We will use partners to cover areas we can't hope to cover ourselves, 
  extending the community that is developing, marketing and selling for us," 
  explains Win.  "We are choosing partners who will bring unique capabilities 
  to the market.  Our goal is to cover all customer needs.  But this strategy 
  means that other companies, including customers of ours, will sometimes make
  and sell Alpha AXP chips and systems in competition with us.  This is what 
  it means to be really open.  To succeed in this environment, every cost the 
  company incurs at every stage -- from the chip all the way to global systems
  -- must be associated with value.
  "In other words, we have set ourselves the challenge of excellence at 
  everything we choose to do.  With this strategy, we have the opportunity to 
  delight customers and achieve profitable growth for many years to come.
  "Today, Alpha AXP technology is one piece of the total business of Digital,"
  notes Win.  "In the future, a more profitable Digital will be one piece in 
  the expanding world of Alpha AXP technology."
  As the applications of Alpha AXP products spread to new kinds of customers, 
  the potential markets for Digital components and services should also grow.
  The company will need to establish its reputation in realms where it has 
  never competed before.
  "When we tell customers 'imagine the opportunities,' we need to imagine 
  their expectations of us and get ready now so we can meet them," adds Win. 
  "We all need to find creative and innovative ways of getting our work done.
  "Digital will compete in new ways and in new markets," he concludes.  "This 
  could mean opportunities for personal and professional growth throughout the
  company.  But we all need to make plans now, set personal and departmental 
  goals, set new standards of excellence."
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| 2129.44 | HOW many trucks? | SPECXN::BLEY |  | Fri Mar 26 1993 11:36 | 4 | 
|  |     
    Has anybody figured out how many "vacuum tubes" the Alpha chip 
    would replace?
    
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| 2129.45 | :-) | MU::PORTER | o� sont les neiges d'antan? | Fri Mar 26 1993 15:22 | 11 | 
|  |  >Has anybody figured out how many "vacuum tubes" the Alpha chip 
 >would replace?
	Exactly none.
	There is no report of a single customer moving from a
	vacuum tube machine to Alpha.
   
  	(Btw: some audiophiles prefer the sound of valve [U.S: "tube"]
	 amplifiers to solid-state stuff.  Does anyone claim that
	 valve CPUs give a more natural computation?)
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| 2129.46 | Real Cool MIDI Tones | AIMHI::KERR |  | Fri Mar 26 1993 15:38 | 8 | 
|  |     .-1
    
    Yeah, I just got a new tube (valve) amp (with tube pre-amp no less). 
    So, I hooked it up to my Mac and now Quicken has a really "cool" tone.
    
    Al_who_just_couldn't_resist                                     
    
    :^)
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| 2129.47 |  | AIMHI::COOLE |  | Fri Mar 26 1993 16:16 | 3 | 
|  |     this might not be the appropiate place but can someone point me to
    where I can get sometype of document about the alpha systems
    
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| 2129.48 |  | SOLVIT::REDZIN::DCOX |  | Fri Mar 26 1993 16:19 | 15 | 
|  | >There is no report of a single customer moving from a
>vacuum tube machine to Alpha.
 
Now that would be worth bragging about.  If we could get some company  to 
testify that they moved 
	from a Pentode to an Alpha, 
we might convince others to move
	from a Pentium to an Alpha.
No?
hmmmmmm
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| 2129.49 | ALPHANOTES | TEXAS1::SIMPSON |  | Fri Mar 26 1993 16:23 | 7 | 
|  |     
    	Re: .47
    
    	Check out VAXWRK::ALPHANOTES.  There is a ton of info, and
    	pointers, in there.
    
    	Ed
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