| T.R | Title | User | Personal Name
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| 2030.1 |  | INFACT::BEVIS | Beware the treacherous Eye of Terror | Fri Jul 31 1992 16:15 | 3 | 
|  |     say... isn't that where we are assembling the DECpc 400STs?
    
    Don
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| 2030.2 | Where will we make Alpha systems?? | BTOVT::SOJDA_L |  | Fri Jul 31 1992 17:00 | 4 | 
|  |     Isn't that where we are assembling Alpha Machines?
    
    Larry
    
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| 2030.3 |  | ANARKY::BREWER | John Brewer Component Engr. @ABO | Fri Jul 31 1992 17:32 | 6 | 
|  |     re: .1 and .2
    
    Yes, and Yes.
    
    Have heard nothing of the rumor in .0, but these days, who knows??!
    	/john
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| 2030.4 | The other side... | SA1794::BEANW | Who wants to grow up? | Mon Aug 03 1992 15:26 | 4 | 
|  |     I have a mfg. engr. friend under contract to ABO, and one of his curent
    projects is to relocate module operations (bottom line) to Mexico. 
    This would leave ABO a Stage II site.  My assumption is that DEC would
    not spend this kind of money just to close shop.  /wlb
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| 2030.5 | don't assume common sense in DEC management | SGOUTL::BELDIN_R | D-Day: 240 days and counting | Mon Aug 03 1992 15:34 | 6 | 
|  |     Well, lots of us would have gone broke if we'd bet that DEC would do
    something in the most sensible (to us) way.  DEC spent a lot of money
    starting up some products in Puerto Rico that are now going to be made
    in Albuquerque.  
    
    Dick
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| 2030.6 | more "rumors behind the news" | DENVER::DAVISGB | Gil Davis in Albuquerque | Mon Aug 03 1992 20:23 | 5 | 
|  |     Latest rumor I heard about plant closings was that there would be three
    sites leftin the U.S.... Colorado Springs, Albuquerque, and one back
    east (Hudson?).   Other than that, everything is up for grabs (meaning
    potential for closing).  Note recent flurry over Roxbury, MA.
    
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| 2030.7 | Any rumors about us? | JUPITR::KWILSON | Just plane crazy | Mon Aug 03 1992 20:46 | 10 | 
|  |     Of course these are just "rumors" but what did you mean by your comment
    about 3 sites "leftin" the US...did your rumor state those plants would
    be closed or remain open? Being in a fairly large manufacturing plant
    (Shrewsbury) where we are so busy that we have a 7 day work week due
    to much OEM/internal work, none of us "feel" we have anything to worry
    about in the near (6+ months anyway) future. We have lost people in the
    building but not in the manufacturing end...yet?
    
    Keith
    
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| 2030.8 |  | STOKES::BURT |  | Tue Aug 04 1992 07:44 | 19 | 
|  |     Does anyone realize how much money the US gov't gives a US company to
    move x# of US jobs "off-shore" (Mexico included)?  And also how much
    money a company can save in taxes to work outside of the US?  As well
    as how much a comany can save in overhead outside of the US?  It
    wouldn't surprise me in the least for us to follow trend and move off
    shore.  As for PR closing: We don't have a need for that type of
    internal business unit anymore; it's much cheaper for us to by PCB made
    externally (Why GSO is closing, also?).
    
    Saying that we can't close ABO (?) is living in that dream of it can't
    happen here.  Especially if ABO is an assembly plant, we can get that
    anywheres.  Now, closing HLO would be a different story; granted we
    wouldn't have to worry about EPA regs in Mexico, but to shut down HLO
    and rebuild it in Mexico even with all the tax/money credits could
    possibly be devastating to us.
    
    I won't bet on anything until after this economic world war is over.
    
    Reg.
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| 2030.9 |  | RAVEN1::PINION | Hard Drinking Calypso Poet | Tue Aug 04 1992 08:05 | 4 | 
|  |     That last line is one to live by here (GSO).  Actually, we're being
    sold (probably).  We just have no idea of win.
    
    Sdp
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| 2030.10 | Important book on the subject | BOOKS::HAMILTON | All models are false; some are useful - Dr. G. Box | Tue Aug 04 1992 09:57 | 15 | 
|  |     re: .8   
    
    For an utterly chilling account of the incentives given
    by the US government to companies moving plants to low wage
    nations, read "America: What Went Wrong?"  
    
    I forget the authors' names but they are Pulitzer Prize
    winning reporters from the Philadelphia Inquirer.
    
    Warning: this book will really frost you off.  If you read
    it, prepare to be extremely angry.  It is exceedingly
    well documented (mostly from IRS and other government
    sources).
    
    Glenn
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| 2030.11 |  | CUPMK::DEVLIN | Je voudrais boire quelque chose. | Tue Aug 04 1992 10:47 | 4 | 
|  | Glenn -
I read a series of articles based on that book.  Very chilling indeed.
JD
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| 2030.12 | What is the title?? | GIAMEM::T_WILSON |  | Wed Aug 05 1992 14:48 | 7 | 
|  |     
    
    What is the name of that book?
    
    Terry
    
    
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| 2030.13 |  | FDCV06::HSCOTT | Lynn Hanley-Scott | Mon Aug 10 1992 14:53 | 3 | 
|  |     re .12
    The title is listed in .10
    
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| 2030.14 | ABO and the COBRA... | DENVER::DAVISGB | Gil Davis in Albuquerque | Tue Aug 11 1992 11:48 | 20 | 
|  |     
    Interesting on an Albuquerque position....read the job description.
    (There was one for Laser also...)
    
 12AJ PROJECT MANAGER 1                           WC: 4 (Exempt)
      Title: PROJECT MANAGER 1                  Shift: 1  Travel: 25%  Hours: 40
Recruiter:  Joe Mercadante                      Requisition Number:  H510694
   E-mail:  ELMAGO::JMERCADANTE                               Date:  11-JUN-92
  LOC/DTN:  ABO/D4      552-2172                  Relocation Funds:  Yes
       Job Site:  ABO ALBUQUERQUE, NM
Job Description:
To manage the COBRA transfer from AYO to ABO structure, staff and manage the
COBRA transfer team.  Develop and achieve the COBRA transfer Plan.  Responsible
for cost, benefits and performance of the transfer effort.  Demonstrated project
management skills/track record required.  Must have prior experience setting
and achieving commitments in a mfg enviornment.  Strong interpersonal skills
required. SRI 38
                
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| 2030.15 | One down, X to go | MR4DEC::HARRIS | Cent milliards d'�toiles | Tue Aug 11 1992 12:26 | 7 | 
|  |     Sale of the Greenville, SC, plant was announced this morning, to be
    accomplished "within 30 days."  So in September the 475 Digital
    employees at the Greenville facility will become employees of a
    consortium operated by AMP and another company (whose name I don't
    recall exactly at the moment).
    
    Mac.
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| 2030.16 |  | FEATHR::BLUEJAY | N45210: 194.5 SMOH, 24.3 SMWJ | Tue Aug 11 1992 14:40 | 6 | 
|  | >    consortium operated by AMP and another company (whose name I don't
>    recall exactly at the moment).
It's AMP+Akzo. See the latter replies to 1857.
					- Bluejay Adametz
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