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Conference 7.286::digital

Title:The Digital way of working
Moderator:QUARK::LIONELON
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5321
Total number of notes:139771

1727.0. "HELP!!! IBM-->ULTRIX " by HAAG::HAAG (Dreamin' on WY high country) Thu Jan 16 1992 16:13

    This is my last gasp. Can anyone help? we are running out of time.
    
    We need a plan to get 200 programmers (currently writing code on an IBM
    ES9000 mainframe using CICS and COBOL) productive and operational in a
    UNIX/C environment. Preferably this plan will have been actually used
    in some other customer site for their transition from an IBM mainframe
    environment to a distributed UNIX/C environment. This does not have to
    be an extensive implementation plan. Just a general overview would do.
    This is for the Executive VP level type audiance.

    Can someone point me in the direction of ULTRIX and/or IBM competitive
    or marketing people who may have been involved in something like this?
    We have to address questions on this topic at a customer next Wend. and
    a lot rides on our answers.

    Gene Haag, Network Consultant
    Minneapolis, Minnesota
    HAAG::HAAG or @MPO   
    612.851.2255
    DTN 442.2255
    FAX 442.2050
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1727.1One sourceBOOKIE::OBRIENThu Jan 16 1992 16:574
    I forwarded your request to Gail Grant (DECWRL::GRANT), who handles the
    ULTRIX focus for the Customer Advisory Boards. Good luck.
    
    Brian
1727.2not rocket science...HERCUL::MOSERSo what's a few BUPs between friends?Sat Jan 18 1992 10:5018
>    This is my last gasp. Can anyone help? we are running out of time.
    
>    We need a plan to get 200 programmers (currently writing code on an IBM
>    ES9000 mainframe using CICS and COBOL) productive and operational in a
>    UNIX/C environment. 

This seems pretty simple (not in three days, but I assume you didn't start 
on this yesterday)

What stops you from identifying the tools and processes required to function
in a UNIX/C environment, seeing which of those can be reasonably taken on by
IBM/CICS/COBOL people and then working with Ed. Services to put a plan together
to address the difference?

Perhaps thats all you gotta tell the execs...  "Mr. VP, we have the following
methodology and we will work against this schedule to get to point A."

Perhaps I miss some subtle difficulty???
1727.3ThanksHAAG::HAAGDreamin' on WY high countrySat Jan 18 1992 12:0022
    Unfortuneately we have only three days. The VP requested a meeting to
    specifically discuss this issue. We already mentioned the Ed services
    specialized training, plus a variety of other measures. He wants to see
    a plan. Complete with tools and perhaps success stories from elsewhere.
    
    However,
    
    I have recieved over 2 dozen responses to this note. Several of them,
    when bundled together will, I think, get us over the hump. Many thanks
    to all of you who have called and sent mail. For all the gloom and doom
    running around this company these days it is refreshing to know that
    when your butt is in a corner you can scream for help and people will
    respond with a genuine effort to help.
    
    Thanks, one and all.
    
    God willing, and the creeks don't rise, we may get the company and
    ourselves out of this mess yet.
    
    Rgds,
    
    Gene.