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Name | Date | Lines |
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| 1695.1 | | SDSVAX::SWEENEY | Honey, I iconified the kids | Fri Dec 13 1991 17:38 | 2 |
| I don't know. Why don't you ask the Middlesex County Prosecutor's
Office, or OSHA and let us know what you find out?
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| 1695.3 | | MU::PORTER | bah, humbug | Mon Dec 16 1991 23:01 | 3 |
| Well, ok, let's try asking that a different way. What (in general
details) was the accident? Who (in a general sort of way, maybe
a job title) died?
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| 1695.4 | | VMSZOO::ECKERT | The mother of all clich�s | Tue Dec 17 1991 13:17 | 4 |
| If I recall correctly, an oxygen line was purged with nitrogen as part
of a maintenance process. For some reason one of the ports on this
line was either not tagged as out of service or the tag was dislodged.
Someone connected their breathing apparatus to the port and suffocated.
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| 1695.5 | | PSYLO::STONE | | Tue Dec 17 1991 13:41 | 16 |
| re .4
you are correct in stating what happened to the young gentlemen who
worked in Hudson. Usually when the oxygen lines are purged or cleaned,
the line is generally "locked down" so that an accident can be avoided.
It was unfortunate in this case that this line was not locked and
nitrogen was inhaled by this gentlemen. It should be stated that the
nurses who arrived on the scene tried everything to revive him, but
they were unable to for any amount of time.
After his death, HLO was swampped with representatives from EAP and
other support groups who spoke to peopel 'round the clock about their
feelings over the loss of this individual and the frustrations and
anger people felt toward the company for letting this happen
peg
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| 1695.6 | DIGITAL building? | CSC32::K_BOUCHARD | Ken Bouchard CXO3-2 | Tue Dec 17 1991 17:39 | 3 |
| Did this happen at a DEC facility?
Ken
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| 1695.7 | | VMSZOO::ECKERT | The mother of all clich�s | Tue Dec 17 1991 17:43 | 1 |
| Yes, at HLO.
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| 1695.8 | Help me to understand | 16BITS::DELBALSO | I (spade) my (dog face) | Thu Dec 19 1991 12:31 | 17 |
| re: .5, Peg
> It was unfortunate in this case that this line was not locked and
> frustrations and anger people felt toward the company for letting this happen
I realize that this is a sensitive and painful subject for all involved,
but I fail to understand how "the company let it happen".
Accidents unfortunately happen, but unless they occur due to a lack of
proper procedures or policies having been put in place responsibly by
the company (which lack appears _not_ to be the case here), then they
are the result of either fate or a failure to follow the policy or procedure
on the part of some individual. Isn't frustration and anger at the company
rather out of place?
-Jack
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| 1695.9 | | CIS1::FULTI | | Thu Dec 19 1991 12:48 | 9 |
| re: .8
Jack;
Human nature may say that people would rather not blame an individual(s)
for an accident. Its easier to place "blame" on a company, feelings are
vented and nobody really is 'blamed' just some entity called the company.
- George
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| 1695.10 | | SSDEVO::EGGERS | Anybody can fly with an engine. | Thu Dec 19 1991 13:59 | 1 |
| But it's my company.
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| 1695.11 | | PSYLO::STONE | | Fri Dec 20 1991 13:21 | 36 |
| re 8
Jack
There has always been, or appeared to be, a problem with communication
in any part of the company. I think that this accident, just added to
the fire that communication was not properly handled. Supposedly, an
electronic message had been sent out stating that the lines were being
purged. As the story goes, not everyone logs on the system every 10
minutes to see what is going on. The general feeling among the workers
at HLO was that people were not correctly doing their job (i.e. if the
lockdowns properly occured, this never would have happened and Mario
would have been alive today) and the company is somehow responsible for
letting this happen.
There were many events that were never broadcast through the HLO
population, such as fires in the building, but people weren't told to
evacuate, vapors in the hall and again no one was evacuated while the
source of the vapors was being tracked down, etc etc....I think that
people feel if they go to work and spend a majority of their time there
that somehow the company should look out for our general welfare. Call
it a sense of false security I guess.
Promises were made after the accident occured, that we as a company
would be notified of the findings and the people responsible would be
held accoutable...well as you can guess, nothing ever happened and it
was just another case of the company "screwing over" the employees.
Unless you worked in HLO, it is difficult to describe the feelings by
the general population and especially of those who worked closely with
Mario...maybe it never should have happened, but then again, should
anything bad ever happen? when there is no one directly to blame, it is
easy to look at the "company" and say it is "their" fault
peg
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| 1695.13 | | SSDEVO::EGGERS | Anybody can fly with an engine. | Fri Dec 20 1991 22:42 | 2 |
| May I suggest that we don't discuss fault in here. I specifically
suggest that note .-1 be revised or deleted.
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| 1695.14 | | PSYLO::STONE | | Mon Dec 23 1991 09:13 | 5 |
| This is not meant to point the finger and say it was this one's fault,
or that one's fault, but it is difficult to discuss this tragedy
without fault coming through
peg
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| 1695.15 | | RANGER::MINOW | The best lack all conviction, while the worst | Mon Dec 23 1991 11:13 | 9 |
| re: .8, but not related to the Hudson tragedy:
Accidents are generally not caused by one single "fault", but by an
interacting combination of problems, no one of which -- by itself --
caused the accident. You might wish to read Charles Perrow's
Normal Accidents (Basic Books) for a discussion of accidents from
an organizational perspective.
Martin.
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