Conference 7.286::digital

    I have never seen an official policy.  I suspect each location has
    its own policy, which in some places may be unwritten.  I still
    have my un-pictured badge.
        John Sauter

    I don't believe trade-up was optional with the new picture badges.
    When I got mine, everyone was called in to turn in their old badge,
    get their picture taken and get a new badge.  The main reason is
    for security.  I know of some customers that had complained that
    DEC employees didn't have proper identification (i.e. a picture).
    
    I also saw some longer term employees almost cry when they had to
    give up their tiny, low-digit badge to get their picture taken..8')
    
    Gil
    

Re .0:

From the UCOUNT:: VTX server's copy of the Personnel Policies and
Procedures manual:

"
                               INTERNAL USE ONLY
       8.01 Employee Photo Identification Badge Policy          26-AUG-85

SCOPE:  WORLDWIDE

Digital's employee photo identification badge is driven by 
business needs and an industry standard providing a 
commonsense approach protecting employees and company 
property.  Digital requires employees to display their 
employee photo identification badge at all times while on 
Digital premises.  In addition, badges will not be loaned to 
others or reproduced in any form.  Management will ensure that 
terminating employees return their badges.

PRACTICE

Requirements

Each employee will be issued one standard photo identification 
badge unless otherwise defined by local law, customs or safety 
standards.  The badge may not be defaced in any manner, e.g. 
logos, pictures or drawings.

Only Personnel (designated by the regional security manager) 
and security departments within the United States are 
authorized to order badge stock or issue finished badges.  
Digital Europe and GIA will establish their own procurement 
and control procedures ensuring that they are consistent with 
the provisions of Corporate Security Policy and Standards.

Responsibilities

Local Security Organizations

o  Establish written employee procedures for the procurement, 
   fabrication, control, issuance, and use of employee photo 
   identification badges.

o  Take appropriate action to guarantee the return of employee
   photo identification badges from former employees that have 
   failed to return their badges to their manager/supervisor.

o  If no local Security organization exists, the above 
   functions will be performed by the local personnel 
   department.

Local Personnel Department

o  Be responsible for the issuance, protection and 
   accountability of Corporate employee photo identification 
   badge numbers.

o  Ensure that all employees return their employee photo 
   identification badge upon termination of employment.  
   Notify the site Security Coordinator or Security Department 
   of the termination immediately.


REFERENCES

Corporate Security Policy and Standards Manual 

  Policy 2, Employee Photo Identification Badge
  Standard 3.1, Employee Photo Identification Badge 
  Standard 3.2, Retired Employees
  Standard 3.3, Temporary Employees
  Standard 5.4, Security Form Photography
"

Re .1:

I have heard that picture badges will not be issued to ZK employees
because people don't want them.  This can be done because of the "local
customs" clause in the above policy.  However, I wouldn't bet on that being
true forever.

Re .2:

It seems that surrendering truly old badges is a site-specific policy:

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| D | I | G | I | T | A | L |                     INTEROFFICE MEMORANDUM
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 TO: ALL SHREWSBURY EMPLOYEES			DATE:  6/19/86
						FROM:  RUSSELL BRUNDIGE
						DEPT:  SECURITY
						LOC:   SHR1-3/WLOB
						DTN:   237-2550
						ENET:  NUGGET::BRUNDIGE


 SUBJECT: PICTURE BADGES


  In the near future the old blue and white badges will no longer
allow you to gain access to Digital facilities. If you have not
received your picture badge please stop into security and have it
done. The blue and white badge must be turned in at that time,
but, if you have an old black and white badge, it may be kept as a 
memento. Again neither the blue and white nor the black and white 
will be considered identification in the near future. Thank you.





							Russell Brundige
							Security
"

However, regardless of what Russell's memo says, SHR security had better
accept the validity of old-style badges if they expect most ZK employees
to be able to attend meetings on-site.
				/AHM

    Picture badges will be required in MRO (Marlboro) beginning on
    December 1, 1986.  If you do not have a picture badge you will
    have to sign in at one of the entrances where there is a security
    guard/receptionist.
    
    Guess one should get some bright red lipstick and write IBM or
    whatever on their forehead and go get their picture taken!

     I had faithfully worn my old blue 4 digit DEC badge for almost
     20 years.  Even though I was willing to convert over to the new
     picture badge, there was no way I was going to turn in my old one.
     So for a month or so before the change-over, I planned my defense. 
     I had visions of Butch Cassidy holding off the entire LTN 
     security force as I carried by badge to the grave.

     The big day arrived and I walked to the camera with a chip on my 
     shoulder.  "Are you going to take my old badge?"  I asked 
     defiantly.  "No sir".  No sir!  That's it?  I can take it home
     and mount it in plastic?  Frame it?  "Yes sir".

     What a letdown.  I was almost tempted to turn it in after all.

               =dave=

    Gee, Ed, I thought that Marlboro started REQUIRING the picture badges
    when I got my picture badge when I still worked there, at least
    a year and a half ago (managed to keep my old blue badge, too, with
    the sailboat sticker and all).  I don't mind the picture badges
    (enve though I am hardly photogenic!) because I can see valid reasons
    for them.
    
    /Charlotte

    	I put my sailboat on my picture badge.
    
    	Ed 

    I lost my badge the weekend before having to take my new badge picture.
    Filled out the lost badge form, told the story, and got my new one.
    
    bill
    

    For those who don't have the new badges, another rumor was that
    these larger new badges were designed so they wouldn't fit in our
    wallets.  Hah!  I needed a new wallet anyway.  If I didn't have
    it in my wallet I'd probably loose and certainly forget it.  I had
    also heard that in MRO at least they'd allow old-timers to keep
    their small low digit badges.

    re .9
    
    
    You can keep the older badges, for a keepsake only.
    You still need the new pictured ones to get into the buildings.

    re .9,.10:
    What is considered a low badge?  MRO made me turn in my 3647 badge.

    
    
    my badge is 8437, and I got it back.

    Why would you get a new number with the new format badge? I thought
    the number was your employee ID, and would be used on any badge
    you carry.

    The oldest badges have a different shape, and the shape is considered
    a status symbol.
        John Sauter

    new badges, have same badge number

    
    
    re -.9     My new badge fits in my wallet!! It was a struggle, but
    it fits!
    
    rgds, Ray