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Title:	DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
Notice:	Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187
Moderator:	TAEC::BEROUD

Created:	Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:	Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	6497
Total number of notes:	27359

4875.0. "ELMS V1.3 ULTRIX not showing all ICONS!" by LICAUS::LICAUSE (Al Licause (264-4780)) Tue Apr 13 1993 15:19

    I recently installted the ULTRIX version of the ELMS AM/FM V1.3
    on an ULTRIX V4.3 system using DECmcc V1.3 SSB and DECnet/OSI V5.1.
    
    When I show installed components the following are displayed:
    
    # setld -i | grep mcc
    MCRBMS130       installed       DECmcc Basic Management System
    MCRBMSDICT130   installed       DECmcc Dictionary
    MCRBMSREL130    installed       DECmcc BMS Release Notes
    MCRDNA5130      installed       DECmcc DECnet/OSI AM
    MCRMAN130       installed       DECmcc Manual Pages
    
    setld -i | grep  ELM
    ELUALR130                       POLYCENTER ELM Alarms V1.3
    ELUAM130        installed       POLYCENTER ELM AM V1.3
    ELUFM130        installed       POLYCENTER ELM FM V1.3
    ELUPA130                        POLYCENTER ELM Bridge PA V1.3
    ELURN130        installed       POLYCENTER ELM V1.3 Release Notes
    
    
    The system has twice refused to install the ELUALR130 and ELUPA130
    indicating that these components were already included in the BMS
    kit......okay....but....
    
    When I open the iconic maps and pull down the toolbox, I see no 
    icons for BRIDGES and/or CONCENTRATORS.   
    
    Have I missed something or have I botched the installation?
    
    I'm relatively new to ULTRIX so the later is quite possible.
    
    Any help appreciated.
    
    Thanks,
    Al

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
4875.1	check for icon files	QUIVER::HAROKOPUS		`Tue Apr 13 1993 18:37`	13
	Hi Al, It looks like you have the right subsets installed. Do an ls -l /usr/mcc/mcc_system/bridge.dat ls -l /usr/mcc/mcc_system/conc.dat to see if you have the bridge and concentrator icons on the system. Thanks, -Bob
4875.2	There there...	LICAUS::LICAUSE	Al Licause (264-4780)	`Wed Apr 14 1993 17:37`	27
	Bob, Sorry....I didn't include this in .0 as I did look for them: Al -rwxr-xr-x 1 root 1930 Mar 15 14:27 /usr/mcc/mcc_system/mcc_bridge_decbridge_500_icon.dat -rwxr-xr-x 1 root 1930 Mar 15 14:27 /usr/mcc/mcc_system/mcc_bridge_decbridge_600_icon.dat -rwxr-xr-x 1 root 1925 Mar 15 14:27 /usr/mcc/mcc_system/mcc_bridge_decbridge_90_icon.dat -rwxr-xr-x 1 root 1358 Mar 15 14:27 /usr/mcc/mcc_system/mcc_bridge_icon.dat -rwxr-xr-x 1 root 1793 Mar 15 14:27 /usr/mcc/mcc_system/mcc_bridge_lanbridge_100_icon.dat -rwxr-xr-x 1 root 1736 Mar 15 14:27 /usr/mcc/mcc_system/mcc_bridge_lanbridge_150_icon.dat -rwxr-xr-x 1 root 1850 Mar 15 14:27 /usr/mcc/mcc_system/mcc_bridge_lanbridge_200_icon.dat -rwxr-xr-x 1 root 2057 Mar 15 14:27 /usr/mcc/mcc_system/mcc_bridge_rack-db500_icon.dat -rwxr-xr-x 1 root 2057 Mar 15 14:27 /usr/mcc/mcc_system/mcc_bridge_rack-db620_icon.dat -rwxr-xr-x 1 root 1682 Mar 15 14:27 /usr/mcc/mcc_system/mcc_bridge_rack-lb200_icon.dat -rwxr-xr-x 1 root 1900 Mar 15 14:27 /usr/mcc/mcc_system/mcc_bridge_unknown_icon.dat -rw-r--r-- 1 root 1930 Apr 8 10:20 /usr/mcc/mcc_system/mcc_reference_decbridge_500_icon.dat -rw-r--r-- 1 root 1850 Apr 8 10:20 /usr/mcc/mcc_system/mcc_reference_lanbridge_200_icon.da -rwxr-xr-x 1 root 2461 Mar 15 14:27 /usr/mcc/mcc_system/mcc_concentrator_1_icon.dat -rwxr-xr-x 1 root 1376 Mar 15 14:27 /usr/mcc/mcc_system/mcc_concentrator_icon.dat -rwxr-xr-x 1 root 1583 Mar 15 14:27 /usr/mcc/mcc_system/mcc_concentrator_rack-dc500_icon.dat -rwxr-xr-x 1 root 1394 Mar 15 14:28 /usr/mcc/mcc_system/mcc_fddi-station_vconc_icon.dat -rw-r--r-- 1 root 1583 Apr 8 10:20 /usr/mcc/mcc_system/mcc_reference_conc_rack-c0500_icon.dat
4875.3	Run an Icon???	RACER::dave	Ahh, but fortunately, I have the key to escape reality.	`Wed Apr 14 1993 17:59`	1
	Unrelated question, but why are (some of) the icons marked as executable?
4875.4	More info. please	QUIVER::HAROKOPUS		`Wed Apr 14 1993 18:19`	22
	Al, It looks like all of the icons are in the proper place. Do the Bridge and Conc. AMs work from FCL? This looks like it could be a problem with the dictionary. I think this is where the IMPM looks to determine which modules are available. Post the following: #manage mcc>test mcc 0 bridge_am mcc>test mcc 0 conc_am #mcc_dap dap>show class bridge dap>show class concentrator Thanks, Bob
4875.5		TOOK::SWIST	Jim Swist LKG2-2/T2 DTN 226-7102	`Thu Apr 15 1993 08:41`	4
	re: .3 Executable icons are a new concept being investigated for MCC V9.0.
4875.6	Hahahaha!	MCDOUG::doug	Dead or Canadian?	`Thu Apr 15 1993 08:57`	4
	> Executable icons are a new concept being investigated for MCC V9.0. Thanks, I needed that.
4875.7	Some did and some didn't	LICAUS::LICAUSE	Al Licause (264-4780)	`Thu Apr 15 1993 09:55`	36
	Hey you clowns....keep your jocularity out of my very serious note...ha! Bob...looks like some things got done and others didn't. MCC> test mcc 0 bridge_am %MCC-I-NOPARCMD, bridge_am ^ %MCC-I-SYNTAXERR, Syntax error -- unable to interpret remainder of line %MCC-E-ATTRNOTALLOW, no attribute or argument allowed MCC> test mcc 0 conc_am %MCC-I-NOPARCMD, conc_am ^ %MCC-I-SYNTAXERR, Syntax error -- unable to interpret remainder of line %MCC-E-ATTRNOTALLOW, no attribute or argument allowed # # mcc_dap %DAP-S-USE_DICT_RDONLY, Using dictionary file: /usr/mcc/mcc_system/mcc_fdiction ary.dat, with read-only access POLYCENTER Dictionary Administrator Program Version V1.3.0 DAP> sho class bridge -> Class (1) : BRIDGE DAP> sho class concentrator -> Class (1) : CONCENTRATOR
4875.8	Looks like dictionary was not updated	QUIVER::HAROKOPUS		`Thu Apr 15 1993 10:46`	14
	Al, It looks like the dictionary didn't get updated during the installation process. My suspicion is that there were MCC processes still runnning during that install so the dictionary was opened for read-only and thus couldn't be updated. I suggest re-installing the ELU subsets, but make sure you kill all MCC processes running on the system before you start. Also, save the log from the installation in case you run into more problems. Regards, Bob
4875.9	Dictionnary is not loaded...	TOSKI::HAYES		`Thu Apr 15 1993 11:06`	41
	Al, Yes your dictionnary is empty concerning bridge and concentrator. I had the same problem installing TeMIP on to of DECmcc. Your dictionnary is opened in read-only access here because you still have decmcc processes running %ps -aux \| grep mcc What you need to do now is : 1) locate the dictionnary files to load look in the instctrl directory to find where the kitinstall procedure has copied the following files usual name if bridge is the access module mcc_bridge_am_srvc_if.com to load the service part mcc_bridge_am_mgmt_if.com to load the self-management part 2) kill all mcc processes su mcc_kill ALL 3) go to the directory where you located the .com files mcc_dap> verify opened in read-write mcc_dap> load class bridge from mcc_bridge_am_srvc.com mcc_dap> load class mcc subclass bridge_am from mcc_bridge_am_mgmt.com mcc_dap> exit idem for concentrator Good luck Catherine
4875.10	I don't recommend the short cut in .9	QUIVER::HAROKOPUS		`Thu Apr 15 1993 13:52`	7
	.9 will work, but it may be easier for you to just delete the ELU subsets and re-install. If you want to use the short cut suggested in .9 then make sure you load all of the ELM componets in the dictionary (bridge, bridge PA, conc, FDDI AM, FDDI FM, STM FM and LAN PM). Then you will have to enroll the modules. -Bob
4875.11	one more thing	QUIVER::HAROKOPUS		`Thu Apr 15 1993 13:55`	4
	...Also make sure that you kill all MCC processes running on the system before doing the installation.
4875.12	Works great after reinstall!	LICAUS::LICAUSE	Al Licause (264-4780)	`Thu Apr 15 1993 15:49`	9
	Thanks to the serious respondents!!! I removed all MCC processes and reinstalled from scratch and now all icons show up and all works as expected. Case closed. Al