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| 4283.1 | You need more memory. | TOOK::MCPHERSON | pre-retinal integration | Fri Dec 18 1992 08:31 | 11 | 
|  | >I am running  VMS 5.5-1 on a 3100 with 20MB, having installed MOTIF 1.1 
>("DW V1.1-920519" to be more precise).
    Your configuration is about 4 MB memory shy of the *minimum*
    configuration.    The IMPM will consume a lot more memory than the FCL,
    so that's probably why it worked and the IMPM did not.
    Add more memory then see if you still have the problem.
    /doug
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| 4283.2 | Tried a few things ... but still the same .... | HERON::TIMMERMANS |  | Mon Dec 21 1992 04:33 | 28 | 
|  | First the configuration to make sure we start with the same data:
ORESTE VS3100 20mb bootmember NI-cluster
SIRENE VS3100 24mb clustermember
PYTHIA uV3100 32MB clustermember
MERCUR uV3200 16mb clsutermember
The cluster is running VMS 5.5-1 and DECwindows Motif 1.1
                image name: "DECW$MWM"
                image file identification: "DW V1.1-920519"
                link date/time: 20-MAY-1992 04:13:14.37
                linker identification: "05-05"
MCC T1.3
Examination of Attributes Shows:
                      Component Version = T1.3.0
               Component Identification = "DECmcc"
                    Namespace Selection = "Local File System"
If 24Mb is the minimum memory requirement then probably SIRENE will NOT work
because we are running in a cluster and need more memory as apposed to standalone
I tried to fire up the IMPM from PYTHIA (32MB) displaying on ORESTE, SIRENE and
a VXT (The VXT is booted on/from a 6xxx machine running VMS 5.5-1 and the same 
version of DECwindows motif).
All 3 IMPM startups failed with the same error as described in .1
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| 4283.3 | Got ithe IMPM startup hanging on one try.... | HERON::TIMMERMANS |  | Mon Dec 21 1992 06:13 | 29 | 
|  | I had the IMPM startup hanging once after I entered previous note, I took a show
process/cont snapshot.
The process never changed states when I was looking at it.
                             Process SYSTEM                     11:52:23
    State               HIB                 Working set            12053
    Cur/base priority   6/4                 Virtual pages          27241
    Current PC          7FFEDF8A            CPU time     000:00:01:05.80
    Current PSL         03C00000            Direct I/O              1596
    Current user SP     00170834            Buffered I/O             872
    PID                 2200011C            Page faults            10839
    UIC                 [SYSTEM]            Event flags         61000000
                                                                80000000
    $65$DKA0:[SYS12.SYSCOMMON.][SYSEXE]MCC_MAIN.EXE;1
/Luc.
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| 4283.4 | MCC_AUDIT, first? | TOOK::MCPHERSON | pre-retinal integration | Mon Dec 21 1992 08:33 | 7 | 
|  | Have you tried running MCC_AUDIT.COM on any of the systems to check the process
and SYSGEN params?  If not, please do, since it saves us a *lot* of time
playing "20 Questions" about system confogurations....
/doug
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| 4283.5 | Yes MCC_AUDIT was run first... | HERON::TIMMERMANS |  | Mon Dec 21 1992 09:09 | 8 | 
|  | I ran the MCC_audit as I suspected some resource problem, I monitored the FREE 
Gblpages and Sects during the startup.
I have 3096 FREE_GBLPAGES and 288 FREE_GBLSECTS, this drops to 2060 FREE_GBLPAGES
and 287 FREE_GBLSECTS at the time of the toolkit error.
Luc.
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| 4283.6 | check memory. | GOSTE::CALLANDER |  | Thu Dec 31 1992 13:51 | 8 | 
|  |     could you also do a sho mem to see what kind of memory you have
    allotted currently to the page file (again remembering two
    things, two page files is like Russian roulette because your
    application will only run within the bounds of one of them;
    and secondly, unless you reboot after audit might have told you
    to increase the files, they won't be available).
    
    
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| 4283.7 | Only one pagefile used - increased existing one... | HERON::TIMMERMANS |  | Mon Jan 04 1993 06:01 | 135 | 
|  | Here I am again, best wishes to all!
Here is the initial page/swap file information
              System Memory Resources on  4-JAN-1993 11:07:55.03
Paging File Usage (pages):                      Free  Reservable       Total
  DISK$DEMO2:[SYSEXE]SWAPFILE.SYS;1             9992        9992        9992
  DISK$DEMO2:[SYSEXE]PAGEFILE.SYS;1            43143        3451       44992
To make sure the page/swap file do not cause a problem I increased both to
              System Memory Resources on  4-JAN-1993 11:50:25.82
Physical Memory Usage (pages):     Total        Free      In Use    Modified
  Main Memory (32.00Mb)            65536       50046       15363         127
Slot Usage (slots):                Total        Free    Resident     Swapped
  Process Entry Slots                240         221          19           0
  Balance Set Slots                  214         197          17           0
Fixed-Size Pool Areas (packets):   Total        Free      In Use        Size
  Small Packet (SRP) List           2133         212        1921         128
  I/O Request Packet (IRP) List     1563         258        1305         176
  Large Packet (LRP) List             40          10          30        1856
Dynamic Memory Usage (bytes):      Total        Free      In Use     Largest
  Nonpaged Dynamic Memory         903680       12496      891184        5792
  Paged Dynamic Memory           1050112      348800      701312      348352
Paging File Usage (pages):                      Free  Reservable       Total
  DISK$DEMO2:[SYSEXE]SWAPFILE.SYS;1            19992       19992       19992
  DISK$DEMO2:[SYSEXE]PAGEFILE.SYS;1           117347       91266      119992
Of the physical pages in use, 8838 pages are permanently allocated to VMS.
But we have still the same problem; to get some more info we spawned a subprocess
($SPAWN/NOWAIT @START_13) and retrieved its accounting data which follows here.
$ ty start_13.com
$set display/create/node=oreste
$manage/ente/int=decw
------------acc data -----------
LOGINOUT Image Termination
--------------------------
Username:          SYSTEM            UIC:               [SYSTEM]
Account:           SYSTEM            Finish time:        4-JAN-1993 11:31:01.45
Process ID:        2300011F          Start time:         4-JAN-1993 11:31:01.21
Owner ID:          2300011C          Elapsed time:                0 00:00:00.24
Terminal name:                       Processor time:              0 00:00:00.19
Remote node addr:                    Priority:          4
Remote node name:                    Privilege <31-00>: FFFFFFFF
Remote ID:                           Privilege <63-32>: FFFFFFFF
Queue entry:                         Final status code: 00000000
Queue name:
Job name:
Final status text: <no text>
Page faults:              105        Direct IO:                  0
Page fault reads:           1        Buffered IO:                0
Peak working set:         209        Volumes mounted:            0
Peak page file:          1604        Images executed:            0
Image name: $65$DKA0:[SYS12.SYSCOMMON.][SYSEXE]LOGINOUT.EXE
DECW$SETSHODIS Image Termination
--------------------------------
Username:          SYSTEM            UIC:               [SYSTEM]
Account:           SYSTEM            Finish time:        4-JAN-1993 11:31:02.06
Process ID:        2300011F          Start time:         4-JAN-1993 11:31:01.83
Owner ID:          2300011C          Elapsed time:                0 00:00:00.23
Terminal name:                       Processor time:              0 00:00:00.05
Remote node addr:                    Priority:          4
Remote node name:                    Privilege <31-00>: FFFFFFFF
Remote ID:                           Privilege <63-32>: FFFFFFFF
Queue entry:                         Final status code: 00000631
Queue name:
Job name:
Final status text: %SYSTEM-S-SUPERSEDE, logical name superseded
Page faults:              106        Direct IO:                  4
Page fault reads:           5        Buffered IO:                0
Peak working set:         337        Volumes mounted:            0
Peak page file:          1806        Images executed:            1
Image name: $65$DKA0:[SYS12.SYSCOMMON.][SYSEXE]DECW$SETSHODIS.EXE
�
MCC_MAIN Image Termination
--------------------------
Username:          SYSTEM            UIC:               [SYSTEM]
Account:           SYSTEM            Finish time:        4-JAN-1993 11:32:45.94
Process ID:        2300011F          Start time:         4-JAN-1993 11:31:03.19
Owner ID:          2300011C          Elapsed time:                0 00:01:42.75
Terminal name:                       Processor time:              0 00:01:02.83
Remote node addr:                    Priority:          4
Remote node name:                    Privilege <31-00>: FFFFFFFF
Remote ID:                           Privilege <63-32>: FFFFFFFF
Queue entry:                         Final status code: 1040840C
Queue name:
Job name:
Final status text: <no text>
Page faults:            11250        Direct IO:               1397
Page fault reads:         249        Buffered IO:              789
Peak working set:       12049        Volumes mounted:            0
Peak page file:         16319        Images executed:            2
Image name: $65$DKA0:[SYS12.SYSCOMMON.][SYSEXE]MCC_MAIN.EXE;1
�
SUBPROCESS Process Termination
------------------------------
Username:          SYSTEM            UIC:               [SYSTEM]
Account:           SYSTEM            Finish time:        4-JAN-1993 11:32:50.57
Process ID:        2300011F          Start time:         4-JAN-1993 11:31:01.11
Owner ID:          2300011C          Elapsed time:                0 00:01:49.46
Terminal name:                       Processor time:              0 00:01:07.66
Remote node addr:                    Priority:          4
Remote node name:                    Privilege <31-00>: FFFFFFFF
Remote ID:                           Privilege <63-32>: FFFFFFFF
Queue entry:                         Final status code: 1040840C
Queue name:
Job name:
Final status text: <no text>
Page faults:            11678        Direct IO:               1409
Page fault reads:         273        Buffered IO:              884
Peak working set:       12049        Volumes mounted:            0
Peak page file:         27280        Images executed:            4
----------end acc data ---------------
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| 4283.8 | Here is the output given by MCC_IM_LOG=60000000 | HERON::TIMMERMANS |  | Mon Jan 04 1993 06:17 | 31 | 
|  | The whole thing seems as we get a motif error that the code can't handle
I am going to post the Toolkit error in a Windows notesfile to see what this
means. Anyone knows the real meaning of it.
$ mana/e/i=d
%MCC-I-LOG, MCC_IM_LOG = 60000000
MCC_CALL Function HANDLE = 5DBC94, state = FIRST
          verb = 3, in_entity = 8A7E60, partition = 10
          time_spec = 0, in_p = 0, in_q = 0, out_entity = 8A7D20
MCC_CALL dispatch HANDLE = 5DBC94, module is MCC_NOTIFICATION_FM
RETURNED dispatch HANDLE = 5DBC94, state = FIRST, module is MCC_NOTIFICATION_FM,
 mm CVR: RESPONSE
RETURNED Function HANDLE = 5DBC94, state = FIRST
          time_stamp = 5DBD54, out_entity = 8A7D20
          out_p = 5DBCD4, out_q = 5DBE54,  returned CVR: RESPONSE
%MCC-I-LOG, MCC_IM_LOG = 60000000
X Toolkit Error: Unable to create tracking pixmap
%CMA-F-EXCCOPLOS, exception raised; some information lost
%TRACE-F-TRACEBACK, symbolic stack dump follows
module name     routine name                     line       rel PC    abs PC
                                                           0004B8C4  0004B8C4
                                                           0007C782  0007C782
                                                           000775DC  000775DC
                                                           0007AC78  0007AC78
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| 4283.9 | Reinstalled the whole thing on standalone 3100 ... and works | HERON::TIMMERMANS |  | Wed Jan 06 1993 04:15 | 33 | 
|  | Meanwhile I reinstalled VMS etc.. on the 3100 using 32MB and the MCC T1.3 IMPM 
fires up without any problem.
I am running VMS 5.5 instead of VMS 5.5-1, same version of Motif and not in a
cluster
Memory usage:
              System Memory Resources on  6-JAN-1993 10:10:04.55
Physical Memory Usage (pages):     Total        Free      In Use    Modified
  Main Memory (32.00Mb)            65536       32835       30308        2393
Slot Usage (slots):                Total        Free    Resident     Swapped
  Process Entry Slots                 60          40          20           0
  Balance Set Slots                   54          36          18           0
Fixed-Size Pool Areas (packets):   Total        Free      In Use        Size
  Small Packet (SRP) List           1799        1282         517         128
  I/O Request Packet (IRP) List      522         346         176         176
  Large Packet (LRP) List             46          29          17        1856
Dynamic Memory Usage (bytes):      Total        Free      In Use     Largest
  Nonpaged Dynamic Memory         900096      428848      471248      391008
  Paged Dynamic Memory           1000448      676464      323984      674640
Paging File Usage (pages):                      Free  Reservable       Total
  DEMO1:[SYSEXE]SWAPFILE.SYS;1                  3992        3992        3992
  DEMO1:[SYSEXE]PAGEFILE.SYS;1                145497      122511      149992
Of the physical pages in use, 8033 pages are permanently allocated to VMS.
(MCC T1.3 is running here)
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| 4283.10 | Toolkit Error: Unable to create tracking pixmap | DPD10::WAYLAND |  | Mon Apr 19 1993 16:31 | 27 | 
|  |     HELP,
    
    We are also getting the following error when trying to run MCC
    
    $ manage/ent/int=dX Toolkit Error: Unable to create tracking pixmap
    %CMA-F-EXCCOPLOS, exception raised; some information lost
    %TRACE-F-TRACEBACK, symbolic stack dump follows
    
    Our configuration is as follows:
    
    DPD10 VAX 4000-500  128MB memory (We are only running MCC on this node)
    DLO09 VAX 4000-500
    
    MCC_AUDIT uncovered the following parameters which will be fixed upon
    reboot.  
    
    Will a reboot fix our problem, if not any clues?
    
    Thanks
    Renee
    
!
!Sysgen changes for system DPD10
!  by MCC_AUDIT for DECmcc , on 19-APR-1993 14:50:01.11
!
MIN_PROCSECTCNT = 200               !Low current value is 96            
MIN_PQL_MASTLM = 600                !Low current value is 100           
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| 4283.11 | re .10 | BARREL::LEMMON |  | Mon Apr 26 1993 12:08 | 6 | 
|  |     see note 4727.5 for a possible workaround.
    
    Also, I suggest you install v1.3 since t1.3 is no
    longer supported.
    
    /Jim
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