| T.R | Title | User | Personal Name
 | Date | Lines | 
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| 2750.1 |  | SLINK::CHILDS | Ed Childs | Mon Apr 13 1992 12:06 | 31 | 
|  | | The current one, due to its size and activity has become unreadable.
| Even a DIR/UNSEEN takes forever.
| It may also be a good idea to separate, toolkit and normal
| activities into 2 different conferences.
| Does anyone else agree with this ? ................................
    I don't agree.  Creating 2 new conferences for MCC would mean we would
    have to search through THREE for information -- the two new ones and
    this existing "old" conference.  Unless the moderators sift this
    conference into the two new ones -- something I'll bet the moderators
    are much too busy to do.  I think it makes more sense to leave it all
    in one place.
    I'm fortunate enough to be on the same extended LAN as the MCC
    notefile, so it doesn't take me that long to search for things I need. 
    I can understand that slow access is frustrating.  Is there some other
    way we can improve this?
    Two questions:
    * DIR/UNSEEN takes a long time, but how often do you do that?  I think
    reading the file with Next Unseen uses a more efficient way to search
    through unseen notes than does the Directory command, but I don't know
    for sure.
    * When you say separate toolkit and normal activities, what do you
    mean by the latter?  Everything that's not in the toolkit?  I don't
    think there are that many notes in here dealing specifically with the
    toolkit.
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| 2750.2 | Seperate by version. | VCSESU::WADE | Bill Wade, VAXc Systems & Support Eng | Mon Apr 13 1992 12:14 | 12 | 
|  |     Gil,
    
    In my opinion it would have made more sense to have started a T1.2 
    conference and limited this one to V1.1 info.  Too late now.
    At this point I would suggest creating a new conf for the next FT
    version. 
    
    Some time back the question of creating seperate use and toolkit 
    conferences was asked and the general concensus was to keep it all
    together.  But I think seperating versions makes sense.  
    
    /bill
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| 2750.3 | !broke :: !fix | TOOK::MCPHERSON | Save a tree: kill an ISO working group. | Mon Apr 13 1992 17:18 | 6 | 
|  | Leave it alone!
I have enough @(*#@* conferences I have to keep track of and 
follow up on cross-postings.  
/doug
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| 2750.4 | Put a list somewhere ? | TAEC::LAVILLAT |  | Tue Apr 14 1992 02:56 | 9 | 
|  | 
What about using a reserved note containing an up-to-date directory of
all the notes ?
Some conference moderators use to do this...
Pierre.
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| 2750.5 | user group type notes in ENUF::NETMGT | SKIBUM::GASSMAN |  | Tue Apr 14 1992 07:25 | 9 | 
|  |     There is a network management conference on ENUF::NETMGT that can be
    used to discuss general network management issues.  Innovative uses of
    MCC and success stories could go there, leaving this conference for the
    "how do I" or "this seems broken" type of comments.  This file is very
    engineering oriented, many developers make use of it, and it's very
    valuable.  We do need a "users group" kind of conference though that
    doesn't expose the gizzards.  
    
    bill
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| 2750.6 | This debate has been going on for a long time | TOOK::GUERTIN | Menagerie Control Center | Tue Apr 14 1992 07:59 | 8 | 
|  |     The only problem with a "users group" type of conference it that
    sometimes the "I can't get this to work" notes turn out to be an
    honest-to-goodness bugs.  I assure you that most developers will
    not monitor the "users" notesfile (probably only the PM developers).
    So getting to "bug declaration" can be a while (then people will
    start cross-posting....)
    
    -Matt.
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| 2750.7 | What about keywords | HAZARD::BAKER | Paul Baker, UK Product and Technology Group - 844 3311 | Tue Apr 14 1992 08:01 | 5 | 
|  | I agree that this conferance is getting too big, but if everyone used 
keywords appropriately, then searching for a particular topic would not be
quite so painful.
Paul.
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| 2750.8 | the conference will be closing.... | TOOK::CALLANDER | MCC = My Constant Companion | Wed Jun 10 1992 13:54 | 17 | 
|  |     I am sorry I have been lax the last two months with getting the
    keywords in (and don't groan "she's back..."). It is currently
    my intention to start a new conference with the Vnext release.
    i want to seperate the field test from the released kit questions.
    As soon as the SSB kit is made available on the net it is my
    intention to start the new conference. 
    
    I will be starting only one conference though, and this one will
    be left active for ~1 month to allow people to get the answers to
    existing/outstanding questions, and to give you enough time to
    upgrade to V1.2. Depending upon how long it takes customers to
    get V1.2 there might be a slight time that this remains available
    for v1.1 questions as well.
    
    moderator
    jill
    
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| 2750.9 | retain old conf | CSOADM::ROTH | The Blues Magoos | Wed Jun 10 1992 16:23 | 7 | 
|  | Please find the disk space to keep this conf online but writelocked.
It can probably answer many questions for those of us that are just getting
started with MCC.
Thanks-
Lee Roth
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