| Title: | DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT. | 
| Notice: | Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187 | 
| Moderator: | TAEC::BEROUD | 
| Created: | Mon Aug 21 1989 | 
| Last Modified: | Wed Jun 04 1997 | 
| Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 | 
| Number of topics: | 6497 | 
| Total number of notes: | 27359 | 
    Hi,
    
    I have a DNS problem! (says it all really!)
    
    I am running T1.2.3 DNS V1.1
    
    I have appended a log of what happens with my problem, but in essence
    it is this.
    
    1 Start DNS..........no problem
    2 run dns$ivp........no problem
    3 update the namespace using mcc_dns_setup.com.........no problem
               (this bit not shown in the log but the IVP shows the
    		directories)
    4 try accessing the namespace using dns$control........ no problem
    5 create a domain in the namespace under the .domain directory
    	get the cannot communicate with DNS server error
    
    At this point the DNS$ADVER process takes 99% cpu and keeps it!
    
    Any further reference to the namespace whatever results in the system
    crashing!
    
    
    Help!
    
    Stuart
    
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@dns$startup
%RUN-S-PROC_ID, identification of created process is 00000102
@sys$test:dns$ivp
 DNSCP SHOW CHARACTERISTICS CLEARINGHOUSE OLONMS_CH 
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.MCC_Station_BackTranslation
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.DNA_BackTranslation.%X49.%X0015
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.DNA_BackTranslation.%X49.%X001E
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.DNA_BackTranslation.%X49.%X002E
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.DNA_BackTranslation
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.DNA_BackTranslation.%X49.%X0014
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.DNA_BackTranslation.%X49.%X002F
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.DNA_NodeSynonym
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.DNA_BackTranslation.%X49.%X0004
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.DNA_BackTranslation.%X49.%X003A
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.DNA_BackTranslation.%X49.%X003D
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.DNA_BackTranslation.%X49.%X0025
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.DNA_BackTranslation.%X49.%X0035
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.DNA_BackTranslation.%X49.%X0019
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.MCC
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.DNA_BackTranslation.%X49.%X0022
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.DNA_BackTranslation.%X49.%X001F
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.DNA_BackTranslation.%X49.%X0017
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.DNA_BackTranslation.%X49.%X0009
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.DNA_BackTranslation.%X49.%X003F
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.MCC_Sample_BackTranslation
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.DNA_BackTranslation.%X49.%X0003
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.DNA_BackTranslation.%X49.%X001C
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.DNA_BackTranslation.%X49.%X0030
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.DNA_BackTranslation.%X49.%X0028
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.DNA_BackTranslation.%X49.%X002D
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.DNA_BackTranslation.%X49.%X0023
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.DNA_BackTranslation.%X49.%X0020
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.DNA_BackTranslation.%X49.%X0008
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.MCC_Terminal_Server_BackTranslation
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.DNA_BackTranslation.%X49.%X000B
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.DNA_BackTranslation.%X49.%X0037
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.domain
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.DNA_BackTranslation.%X49.%X000C
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.DNA_BackTranslation.%X49.%X0002
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.DNA_BackTranslation.%X49.%X0001
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.MCC_Concentrator_BackTranslation
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.DNA_BackTranslation.%X49.%X002B
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.DNA_BackTranslation.%X49.%X0027
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.DNA_BackTranslation.%X49.%X0006
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.DNA_BackTranslation.%X49.%X000A
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.DNA_BackTranslation.%X49.%X0007
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.DNA_BackTranslation.%X49.%X003E
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.DNA_BackTranslation.%X49.%X0005
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.DNA_BackTranslation.%X49.%X002C
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.DNA_BackTranslation.%X49.%X0021
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.DNA_BackTranslation.%X49.%X0031
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.DNA_BackTranslation.%X49.%X0012
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.DNA_BackTranslation.%X49.%X0026
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.DNA_BackTranslation.%X49.%X0032
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.DNA_BackTranslation.%X49.%X0016
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.DNA_BackTranslation.%X49.%X0011
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.DTSS_GlobalTimeServers
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.DNA_BackTranslation.%X49.%X003C
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.DNA_BackTranslation.%X49.%X0033
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.DNA_BackTranslation.%X49.%X000D
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.DNA_BackTranslation.%X49.%X001B
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.DNA_BackTranslation.%X49.%X0034
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.DNA_BackTranslation.%X49.%X0018
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.DNA_BackTranslation.%X49.%X0024
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.DNA_BackTranslation.%X49.%X002A
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.DNA_BackTranslation.%X49.%X0013
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.DNA_BackTranslation.%X49.%X001D
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.DNA_BackTranslation.%X49.%X0029
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.DNA_BackTranslation.%X49.%X0036
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.DNA_BackTranslation.%X49.%X003B
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.MCC_SNMP_BackTranslation
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.hubs
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.bridge
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.DNA_Node
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.DNA_BackTranslation.%X49.%X0039
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.DNA_BackTranslation.%X49.%X0038
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.DNA_BackTranslation.%X49.%X000F
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.DNA_BackTranslation.%X49.%X000E
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.DNA_BackTranslation.%X49.%X0010
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.DNA_BackTranslation.%X49
  Directory _______________ OLONMS_NS:.DNA_BackTranslation.%X49.%X001A
 DNSCP CREATE GROUP OLONMS_DNS$IVP
UID ________________________________ aa-00-04-00-fe-a4-00-67-d7-91-26-50-95-00
 DNSCP ADD MEMBER OLONMS::SYSTEM GROUP OLONMS_DNS$IVP
 DNSCP SHOW CHARACTERISTICS GROUP OLONMS_DNS$IVP
 Member ____ olonms::system  (OLONMS_NS:.DNS$IV.olonms.system)
 DNSCP DELETE GROUP OLONMS_DNS$IVP
$mc dns$control
DNS> sho dir .
 Attribute (Set) ______ DNS$ACS
 Attribute (Single) ___ DNS$AllUpTo
 Attribute (Single) ___ DNS$Convergence
 Attribute (Single) ___ DNS$Epoch
 Attribute (Single) ___ DNS$InCHName
 Attribute (Single) ___ DNS$LastSkulk
 Attribute (Single) ___ DNS$LastUpdate
 Attribute (Set) ______ DNS$Replicas
 Attribute (Single) ___ DNS$ReplicaState
 Attribute (Single) ___ DNS$ReplicaType
 Attribute (Single) ___ DNS$RingPointer
 Attribute (Single) ___ DNS$UID
 Attribute (Single) ___ DNS$UTS
DNS> exit
$man/ent
 
DECmcc (T1.2.3)
Domain OLONMS_NS:.domain.test 
AT 22-JAN-1992 09:39:21 
The requested operation cannot be completed
            MCC Unhandled Service Reply = The requested operation cannot be 
                                          completed
                      MCC Routine Error = %DNS-E-NOCOMMUNICATION, Unable to 
                                          communicate with DNS server
| T.R | Title | User | Personal Name | Date | Lines | 
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2161.1 | Try to create a DNS object using DNS$Control | TRM::KWAK | Wed Jan 22 1992 09:35 | 20 | |
|     
    When you issue the MCC> create domain .domain.test, the MCC
    will create two DNS objects - .domain.test, and
    .domain.test_MCC_EXT000.
    
    Can you check if you can create an object in the namespace by
    issueing DNS$Control command:
        $ mcr dns$control
        DNS> show  object OLONMS_NS:.domain.test_foo
    
        DNS> create object OLONMS_NS:.domain.test_foo
        Object class? DNS$Group
        Class version? 1.0
    
    If the above DNS$Control command is not successful, the MCC command
    cannot succeed either.
    
    Please make sure that the DNS server process is running on the DNS
    server node.
    
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| 2161.2 | update | WOTVAX::HATTOS | I think, Therefore I'm paid less | Wed Jan 22 1992 12:50 | 12 | 
|     Did both of these commands after restarting DNS and both were
    succesful.
    
    Then did
    MAN/ent
    MCC> create domain .domain.test
    
    got the cannot communicate with DNS server message as before,
    DNS$ADVER took 100% cpu, tried using dns$control to do ANYTHING and
    system crashed again!
    
    Stuart
 | |||||
| 2161.3 | TRY some more DNS/MCC commands | TRM::KWAK | Wed Jan 22 1992 13:31 | 15 | |
|     
    RE: .2
    
    Please try the following:
    	$ mcr dns$control
    	DNS> show dir .domain known object
        DNS> delete object .domain.test
    	DNS> delete object .domain.test_MCC_EXT000
        DNS> exit
        $ manage/ent
    	MCC> show mcc 0 all char
        MCC> create domain .domain.test
    
    Please post the log of the above commands in this topic.
    Thanks.
 | |||||
| 2161.4 | Update | WOTVAX::HATTOS | I think, Therefore I'm paid less | Thu Jan 23 1992 08:20 | 22 | 
|     The first time I tried your suggestions, i got
    
    $mc dns$control
    DNS> show dir .domain known object
    
    
    MACHINE CRASHED after i hit return. 8*(
    
    It is rebooting at the moment, I will try the commands again when it is
    up.
    
    The first time I try to use dns$control everything will be fine.
    
    After I come out of MCC after doing the second command, I will get a
    cannot communicate with DNS server, DNS$ADVER will take 100% cpu and
    the machine will crash on the next DNS reference.
    
    This is based on the behaviour I have witnessed over the last 5
    days..8*(
    
    thanks for your help,
    Stuart
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| 2161.5 | sent to dns | TOOK::CALLANDER | MCC = My Constant Companion | Thu Jan 23 1992 16:21 | 5 | 
|     I have also sent mail to some one on the DNS team, to clue them
    in to the problem  you are having. Hopefully they might have some
    ideas as well.
    
    
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| 2161.6 | DNS questions | TOOK::ZEE | Like a fly on a wall | Thu Jan 23 1992 17:03 | 7 | 
| What VMS version? Multiprocessor system? If you could save the crash dump and mail me a pointer, we'll take a look at it and get back to you. --Roger | |||||
| 2161.7 | DNS$CLIENT.EXE corrupted! | WOTVAX::HATTOS | I think, Therefore I'm paid less | Sat Jan 25 1992 09:49 | 11 | 
|     
    
    Hi people,
    
    Sorry to raise such a commotion, I did ana analyze/ima on
    dns$client.exe and it basically said it was corrupted. Copied another
    DNS$CLIENT.EXE from somewhere else, and now my machine is happy again.
    
    Thanks for al your help.
    
    Stuart
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