| Title: | DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT. | 
| Notice: | Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187 | 
| Moderator: | TAEC::BEROUD | 
| Created: | Mon Aug 21 1989 | 
| Last Modified: | Wed Jun 04 1997 | 
| Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 | 
| Number of topics: | 6497 | 
| Total number of notes: | 27359 | 
I am trying to register a node4 (rather basic isn't it) and keep getting the
message 'entity unknown'. After having struggled through DNS namespace,
clearinghouse, access control, local decnet database , manuals etc. etc. I
haven't been able to figure out what's wrong.
A logfile follows:
Thanks a lot
Timo
 $ mc dns$control
DNS> 
)0[4l
=
DNS> 
DNS> 
DNS> show dir . known child
 Child ______ 
D
N
A
_
N
o
d
e
 Child ______ 
D
N
A
_
N
o
d
e
S
y
n
o
n
y
m
DNS> 
DNS> sh access dir .dna_node
 Entry ______ 63612::SYSTEM _ (DSP_NS:.DNS$IV.63612.SYSTEM)
  Flags _____
 NOPROPAGATE
  Rights ____
 READ
 WRITE
 DELETE
 TEST
 CONTROL
 Entry ______ NMOS01::DNS$SERVER _ (DSP_NS:.DNS$IV.NMOS01.DNS$SERVER)
  Flags _____
 NOPROPAGATE
  Rights ____
 READ
 WRITE
 DELETE
 TEST
 CONTROL
 Entry ______ DSP_NS:.dsp_ch
  Flags _____
 NOPROPAGATE
  Rights ____
 READ
 WRITE
 DELETE
 TEST
 CONTROL
 Entry ______ *::* _ (DSP_NS:.DNS$IV.*.*)
  Flags _____
 PROPAGATE
  Rights ____
 READ
 WRITE
 DELETE
 TEST
 CONTROL
 Entry ______ *::* _ (DSP_NS:.DNS$IV.*.*)
  Flags _____
 DEFAULT
 PROPAGATE
  Rights ____
 READ
 WRITE
 DELETE
 TEST
 CONTROL
 Entry ______ DSP_NS:.dna_registrar
  Flags _____
 PROPAGATE
 GROUP
  Rights ____
 READ
 WRITE
 DELETE
 TEST
 CONTROL
 Entry ______ DSP_NS:.dna_registrar
  Flags _____
 DEFAULT
 PROPAGATE
 GROUP
  Rights ____
 READ
 WRITE
 DELETE
 TEST
 CONTROL
DNS> 
DNS> exi
>
 $ manag/enter
DECmcc (V1.1.0)
)0[4l
=
>
)0[4l
=
>
MCC> show node chic 
Using default ALL IDENTIFIERS
Node DSP_NS:.chic 
AT  8-JUL-1991 12:28:14 Identifiers
Connection rejected because of Protocol Version Skew, could be a Phase IV Node
MCC> show node4 chic
Using default ALL IDENTIFIERS
Node4 51.117 
AT  8-JUL-1991 12:29:40 Identifiers
Examination of Attributes shows:
                                Address = 
51.117
                                   Name = 
CHIC
MCC> register node4 .dna_node.chic synonym chic
Node4 DSP_NS:.dna_node.chic 
AT  8-JUL-1991 12:30:09 
The requested operation cannot be completed
                      MCC Routine Error = 
%MCC-W-ENTUNKNOWN, unknown entity: !AD
MCC> exi
| T.R | Title | User | Personal Name | Date | Lines | 
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1222.1 | DNS DIrectories are missing | NSSG::R_SPENCE | Nets don't fail me now... | Mon Jul 08 1991 13:54 | 7 | 
|     You do not seem to have all the needed DNS directories.
    
    Have you run the DNS Setup tool? At the very least, the
    DNA_BACKTRANSLATION... directories must be added before a phase IV
    node can be registered.
    
    s/rob
 | |||||
| 1222.2 | some more info | CLARID::HOFSTEE | Take a RISC, buy a VAX | Wed Jul 10 1991 04:35 | 55 | 
| 
Right, we are now three days later, and I am still unable to register one
single node!
I checked, rechecked and double checked everything , and everything seems to
be according to the manual, but I am still getting 'entity unknown'.
I have installed (SBB) MCC V1.1 and DNS 1.1. Than I ran the MCC_DNS_SETUP
file.
All subdirectories 
.dna_backtranslation
.dna_backtranslation.%X49
.dna_backtranslation.%X49.%X001
.
.
.mcc
.
.
etc,
are there, as mentioned in the manual.
Then I (re)enrolled the modules with MCC_ENROLL_DIR and MCC_ENROLL_BMS.
When I asked for the known entities through the FORMS interface, it says
 NODE *
    MCC *
    DOMAIN *
    BRIDGE *
    STATION *
    NODE4 *
    SAMPLE *
     
Now when I execute a register command, I still get
$   MANAGE/ENTERPRISE
DECmcc (V1.1.0)
MCC>  REGISTER NODE4 dsp_ns:.dna_node.CHIC   SYNONYM=CHIC   !IDP=49:: ADDRESS=51
.
Node4 DSP_NS:.dna_node.CHIC
AT 10-JUL-1991 04:59:04
The requested operation cannot be completed
                      MCC Routine Error = %MCC-W-ENTUNKNOWN, unknown entity: !AD
Any help would be highly appreciated
 | |||||
| 1222.3 | DNS entries strangly disappearing | CLARID::HOFSTEE | Take a RISC, buy a VAX | Wed Jul 10 1991 08:37 | 25 | 
| After having traced down some things, I think I might have located the area where the problem arises, but I haven't the slightest idea what's causing it. These are the symptoms: I opened up two windows on my workstation. Then , in one window I did: @MC dns$control show dir .dna_backtranslation.%x49 known child I saw that not all entries from %x001 till %X003f were there, so I (re)executed in the other window, the mcc_dns_setup option 1. Now while this commadfile was executing, I repeated the command above and saw indeed all entries reappear. So on a certain moment, the commandfile is finished, and a 'show dir .dna_backtranslation.%x49 kn child' gives entries %x0001 till %x003f. Then I exit from DNS, and immediately restart it . When I than repeat the same command, part of the entries have disappeared!!!! When I repeat this scenario (reexecute the commandfile which again recreates the missing entries), the same things happens, but every time other entries (it looks rather arbitrary) have disappeared. So I guess that my previous requests can be reduced to: How do I recreate a complete proper DNS namespace that stays stable and does not change as soon as I exit from DNS?? Thanks | |||||
| 1222.4 | NSSG::R_SPENCE | Nets don't fail me now... | Wed Jul 10 1991 09:56 | 10 | |
|     Are all time setting correct?
    
    VMS Time
    MCC_TDF
    DNS$TDF
    
    Are there any more clearinghouses in the namespace?
    Are both the DNS$BACK and DNS$TA processes up?
    
    s/rob
 | |||||