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Title:DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
Notice:Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187
Moderator:TAEC::BEROUD
Created:Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6497
Total number of notes:27359

315.0. "What Privs are needed?" by NSSG::R_SPENCE (Nets don't fail me now...) Mon Sep 10 1990 11:35

    I was looking for info on exact privs required for use of DECmcc
    Director and didn't see a subjet in the table of contents of any
    of the several manuals that I looked through. I admit that I may have
    missed the info and if so, just point me at it.
    
    However, it seems to me that each of several modules are likely to
    have their own specific requirements so I would like to propose that
    there should be a topic in the "DECmcc USE" manual as well as one in
    each of the AM Use manuals. The example I discovered was that the
    Bridge AM required a different priv than the Node4 AM. If the
    requirements for each new module (even if the topic says
     "No requirements" ) were made clear it would help reduce the number
    of problems people have as a result of incorrect privs and also reduce
    the tendency to run will ALL privs cause you don't know which ones are
    needed.
    
    Thanks for listening.
    
    s/rob
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315.1in DECmcc Use under Maintaining SecurityGOSTE::CALLANDERMon Sep 10 1990 12:1122
    
    Hope this helps.
    
    In the DECmcc Use manual there is a section called "Maintaining
    Security". In this section it explains, and lists the files used
    by DECmcc and their default/installation privileges. It also explains
    the fact that different entity classes (devices) require other
    additional privileges to run. It does NOT list what these are but
    points to the other documentation. 
    
    The DECmcc use manual also explains the sue of the BY qualifier
    and how proxies can be used to provide additional privileges to
    a session or a specific  command. (Though note, it does list those
    privs required for phaseIV and bridge management).
    
    In regards to finding it in the other use manuals...I didn't have
    too much luck either. I have brought this to the attention of the
    AM developers, I will also send a note off to the writers regarding
    this.
    
    Thanks
315.2YupWORDY::JONGSteve Jong/T and N PubsMon Sep 10 1990 12:5911
    _DECmcc Use_ covers security in Chapter 2 in both the V1.0 and V1.1
    versions.  In the V1.1 version, it's "Maintaining Security" 
    (pp. 2-12 to 2-13).
    
    _DECmcc DECnet Phase IV Access Module Use_ covers security
    in a topic called "Privilege Requirements, Access Control,
    Restrictions" in Chapter 1.
    
    The Bridge and Ethernet AM _Use_ documents don't seem to have an
    explicit treatment.  You're right there.  I would say that is an
    oversight which should be corrected.
315.3NSSG::R_SPENCENets don't fail me now...Mon Sep 10 1990 14:3414
    Thanks folks.
    
    I think it would a great help to the users and managers of MCC systems
    in the field if some text like "Privilege Requirements" could always be
    found in the TOC even if the actual coverage is in a major heading as
    in the USE guide.
    
    When you are tying to figure out (as I did for many hours last week)
    why something isn't working, it may not be intuitive to look under
    "Security" as a heading. BTW, I did try the "Troubleshooting" section
    but it didn't help.
    
    s/rob
315.4Oops...WLYWLD::BRIENENChris Brienen - DECmcc (non-DECnet) AMsMon Sep 10 1990 16:268
    Agreed.
    
    Bridge AM Use and Ethernet AM Use (as well as the OnLine Help for
    Bridge and Station) do not mention required privileges.
    
    Mention is made of required privileges in the BMS Release Notes.
    
    We'll have to fix this for V1.1.