Conference waylay::singles_chat

    Thought I'd piggyback on this topic.  Are we ready for our own web site?
    
    http://pces04.ako.dec.com/schat
    
    Here's one I just created and I'll host it for a little while.  I think
    initially, directions and maps will be the most useful part of this
    site.  It should also make it easier to see what is up ahead.  I'll
    particularly need help with this bit to keep it up-to-date.
    
    Comments, contributions, etc. are welcome, unless you don't like it in
    which case you can... oh nevermind.  >:-)
    
    /Bill

    Very nice, thanks
    
    
    Steve

    
    	Yeah, excellent start.
    
    	Some nude pics and imbedded .wav files of barnyard animals in the
    	throes of ecstasy and we'll be all set.
    
    	8^)
    

    	Thanks Bill - Shawn you are *still* an evil drooly man!
    
    joyce

    
>    	Some nude pics and imbedded .wav files of barnyard animals in the
>    	throes of ecstasy and we'll be all set.

Well, I do have the pictures from Sat night!!  ;-)

Hey Bill!  Cool!!  

I even get my own box on the site (well, 2 actually)!!!  ;-)  (Junior Actor-
singers show info is in 26.9.  I goofed a little...the title is actually "I
Swear I Saw a Dragon".)

Barb

    
    	Waaahhh - I can't get to it - I keep getting error messages!
    
    joyce

    	Well I finally got to the site and Bill did a great job!
    
    joyce

    re: PCBUOA::DEWITT
    
    Joyce, just for you, chat will work as well as schat.
    
    http://pces04.ako.dec.com/chat/default.htm
    
    or just
    
    http://pces04.ako.dec.com/chat
    

    	you are just too sweet! :-)
    
    joyce

        Gee I still can't get in. Will have to try a different browser. Our
    TCP/IP problem seems to be fixed.. Just FTP'd some files from San Diego
    so our network seems ok..
    
    bob

	What browser are you using?

	What do you have for Proxy and non proxy info? 

    re: .12 by AXEL::FOLEY
    
    Bob's all set.  It was a proxy setup problem.

OK folks!!!  The moment you've all been waiting for!!!!  The pictures are now
on line.  Heh heh heh!  Have fun!!

    http://pces04.ako.dec.com/chat/barbpics.htm

Thanks Bill for pulling this together!!!

Barb
    

    Great pictures!   Your cheeks are so Rosy Barb!
    
    

    Just FYI.  I'll be off-line for about a week.  I don't expect
    any updates will be done to the web site during that period.
    
    The site will stay up as long as my PC doesn't crash and burn.
    CJ, don't come near.  ;-)  Very much only kidding!  Hugs.
    
    Will try to catch up with the thousand or so new notes that I expect to
    find when I come back.  :-}
    
    Have fun, folks!
    
    /Bill

    	See ya Bill  - have fun whatever you're doing...
    
    j

    I suspect Bill has fun *whatever* he does!  :-)
    
    See you on your return!
    						cj *->

    New feature, since I'm here twiddling my thumbs waiting for someone
    else to finish their piece...
    
    Post your own notices on the web site.  It is a slight hack, but that's
    me.  ;-)  See the bulletted items at the top of the web site.
    
    NOTES:
    
    - the poster's IP address becomes part of the notice
    
    - be careful with the descriptions, since these descriptions become
    file titles (done so that browsing files by title will be intuitive);
    don't punctuate your titles
    
    - you won't be able to delete notices (email me if necessary)
    
    - because of the second item above, you will not be able to create
    another notice with the same title as one already there
    
    Have fun, but please be on your best behavior.  I'll shut this down if
    the site is abused.
    
    Yours,
    
    /Bill

    I'm back!  I'm disappointed no one tried out the cool app I wrote
    to allow anyone to post their own notes to the web site.
    
    ;-)

    	We were too busy battling mother nature and life in general -
    nothing personal...
    
    joyce

    re: .21 by PCBUOA::DEWITT
    
    >> nothing personal...
    
    No offense taken, actually.  You know how knurds are with their
    toys, creations, etc.   ;-)  They wonder why no one else is
    excited about these things.

    Not only did I go into the website, I added it to my bookmarks!
    
    Gail

    re: .23 by DEMON::INGALLS
    
    Cool.  Now we have TWO users!  ;-)  Thanks, Gail.
    
    /Bill

    I sent mail requesting a password to the page today, but have not had a
    reply. Or was that just a joke?

    
    	No password needed.
    

    re: .25 by MROA::GREGOIRE
    
    >> I sent mail requesting a password to the page today, but have not
    >> had a reply. Or was that just a joke?
    
    Hmmm, as SLAB (.-1) says, no password is necessary.  I can't imagine
    what could be causing you to get a password prompt.  By the way, I
    haven't received your email yet.  Did you use Exchange mail?  It may
    show up, or Linda Williams may have it.  Lots of my mail goes there.
    "William Lin" under mail.dec.com goes to Linda Williams.  My alias is
    "Bill Lin."  Poor Linda.  ;-)
    
    Regretfully yours,
    
    /Bill

    I've been thinking of putting in a who's who section on the web page.
    Some read-only people may then feel more comfortable to participate.
    
    Can I presume that whatever's been posted by people in the introduction
    topic is fair game?  I'd like to do this with everyone's blessing of
    course, so if you would like to contribute a differently composed
    introduction for posting on the web, please email me.
    
    I'll hold off a couple of days to give people a chance to voice their
    opinions.
    
    Bill

    
    Pictures!  Pictures!
    
    8^)
    

    
         Hi all,
    
         I have no problem with that Bill. But, please no pictures, well
            at least of me! :^)
    
                                                         Click,
                                                          Mike.

�    Some read-only people may then feel more comfortable to participate.
    
    They aren't read-onlys because if who we are...  it's because of
    who *they* are (or aren't)...
    
    /bruce

    	Its ok by me if you want to do that, but I think I'd modify my
    intro...
    
    joyce

Yeah s'ok by me too, but if you pull intros from the intro note some of them
(like mine) play off of others so it doesn't make much sense (or sounds pretty
strange) out of context.  How bout if people send Bill what they want to use,
whether it be the intro in note 10 or something else?

B

    Thanks for the quick thoughts thus far.  I would probably put the info
    into a more uniform arrangement.
    
    What type of information might be relevant?
    - Name
    - Work Location?
    - marital status?
    - age?
    - sex?  (and I don't mean yes/no!)
    - what else?
    
    I often lose sight of the fact that this conference came out of the
    SINGLES one.  This feels more like a FRIENDS conference so I don't
    usually think about the "stats" that one would usually find in singles
    ads.
    
    Clearly, many points of information should be optional.
    
    re: a few back
    re: who we are vs. who they (read-only) are
    
    True, but I can see their viewpoint that many in this conference are
    prolific writers with only very brief introductions because guess what,
    "everybody" already knows them.
    

    You sure about the "uniform arrangement".  You don't mean at the
    exclusion of the "free-form" stuff, do you?  It would kinda hide the
    personalities.

>  I often lose sight of the fact that this conference came out of the
> SINGLES one.  This feels more like a FRIENDS conference 

	Wash your mouth out with soap there Bill....  ;-)  


>  ...so I don't
>  usually think about the "stats" that one would usually find in singles
>  ads.

	Well, I'm not sure you want:

	"SWM Tarzan seeks rich, buxom, submissive Jane.  Ability to balance
checkbook and iron loinclothes a plus."


					;-)	--D

�    True, but I can see their viewpoint that many in this conference are
�    prolific writers with only very brief introductions because guess what,
�    "everybody" already knows them.
    
    

    re: .35 by DANGER::ARRIGHI
    
    >> "uniform arrangement" at the exclusion of the "free-form" stuff?
    
    No, I don't suppose so...  Good point.
    
    Also, I probably should post anything without someone's explicit
    okay to do so.
    
    Guess what, I don't know how this site "got out," but intranet web
    search spiders have found it.  I've been getting hits from ATY
    (France?).

>	Well, I'm not sure you want:
>
>	"SWM Tarzan seeks rich, buxom, submissive Jane.  Ability to balance
>checkbook and iron loinclothes a plus."

	Nah...don't need rich or buxom.  :)
    

    re: .37 by JARETH::LARU
    
    >> You are what you write...
    �    True, but I can see their viewpoint that many in this conference are
    �    prolific writers with only very brief introductions because guess what,
    �    "everybody" already knows them.
    
    How should I interpret this?
    
    - One is what one writes (in general)
    or
    - Bill is what Bill writes, implying that Bill's intro was inadequate?
    
    /Bill

          I'm typically not what I write... I monkey around in here a lot
    because I've needed the stress relief. The real me is a shy person
    that's fairly reserved and doesn't like being alone. 
         
    guess I'll hold back for the web site....
    
    bb

�    How should I interpret this?
    
�    - Bill is what Bill writes, implying that Bill's intro was inadequate?
    
    Well, I can't comment on your  adequacy, but if I'm calling you
    names, you won't have to ask...  ;-)
    
    and, fwiw, my remarks were not meant as comments on the relative
    worth of your suggestion;  only to suggest that creating an  intro
    webpage to flush out the voyeurs won't work...  do the page for the
    sake of doing the page, but don't expect any new influx of active
    participants...   if you want  activity, be active!
    
    /bruce

    re: .42 by JARETH::LARU
    re: shouldn't let other people get your kicks for you...
    
    >> but if I'm calling you names, you won't have to ask...  ;-)
    
    Ok, got it.  ;-)
    
    >> do the page for the sake of doing the page, but don't expect any new
    >> influx of active participants...
    
    Actually, this was prompted by at least one real person who felt
    it difficult to identify the players.
    
    My thinking is to create at least a "who's who at a glance" type page
    with the most basic of information.  Additional singles-type details
    may be added if people would like it.
    
    Bill "kick me" Lin

�    My thinking is to create at least a "who's who at a glance" type page
�    with the most basic of information.  Additional singles-type details
    
    I love it!  a cast of characters!!!  :-)
    
    maybe it's time to sell advertising...
    
    /b

    re: .44 by JARETH::LARU
    
    >> a cast of characters!!!
    
    In case you hadn't caught a couple of my earlier notes, I'm not into
    the THEATRE or their lingo.  ;-)
    
    /Bill

    Maybe the web isn't the place for the "cast of characters?"
    We could always keep one topic updated with a summary.

�    We could always keep one topic updated with a summary.
    
    or point at note 10.

    re: .47 by JARETH::LARU
    
    >> what do you mean "we," white eyes?
    
    Well _I_ will be glad to do my part.  :-P
    
    >> or point at note 10.
    
    Nah, too much junk there.
    
    /bill

�    We could always keep one topic updated with a summary.
    
    Now I think I get it...  sort of a registry for info about
    marriages, divorces, makeovers, blood tests...

�          I'm typically not what I write... I monkey around in here a lot
�    because I've needed the stress relief. The real me is a shy person
�    that's fairly reserved and doesn't like being alone. 
    
    IMO, the writing reflects the "real" person...  
    the other is just the person you play on the stage of life...  
    of course, that's *just my opinion*...   your mileage may vary widely,
    depending on driving conditions...
    
    /bruce

    re: .50 by JARETH::LARU
    
    Are you a troublemaker in real life, too, Bruce?
    
    ;-)

�    Are you a troublemaker in real life, too, Bruce?
    
    You'll have to see the show!
    
    :-)

    
    	Ah-- Bruce-- quit picking on my friends... or else!
    
    
    
    	Tesha the Defender...

    I have a picture of me at the Calgary Stampede.. severely hosed and
    dressed up like a buffalo hunter.... I should scan it and send it down
    to you Bill...
    
    Jim

    re: .54 by TBC001::DROVER
    
    >> picture... severely hosed and dressed up like a buffalo hunter...
    >> I should scan it and send it down to you Bill...
    
    Even if the world were ready for it, I'm not sure _I_ am.  ;-)
    
    Seriously though, if you wish to share it and it is not in obvious
    bad taste, I'll post it.
    
    Cheers,
    
    Bill

�    	Ah-- Bruce-- quit picking on my friends... or else!
    
    look out!    Mom's baaaaack....

   >> Even if the world were ready for it, I'm not sure _I_ am.  ;-)
    
    
   <grin> It's ok Bill... I'm already spoken for :-)
    
    Jim
    

    
    	Interesting relationship I have with Bruce-- the first time
    I meet him-- I'll have to send him to his room..... 
    
    
    ah well, his loss.....

�    	Interesting relationship I have with Bruce-- the first time
�    I meet him-- I'll have to send him to his room..... 
    
    alone?

    
    	Oh-- I could be soooo bad here-- oh-- cj help meeeeeee

    	Well you can all figure that out Saturday night ;-)
    
    j

    .60
    
    You want me to help you be bad???  Do you think he 
    can handle us both?
    
    Or you want me to stop you?  (and what kind of friend
    would I be then?)
    
    Besides all that, I'm very sick and coughing like I
    think Barb must have been.  You just may be on your
    own tomorrow night!
    
    However, if you get the scoreboard going, I could always
    phone in my entry.  Except, if you all sound like we did
    when we called Joyce, there may be a lag in communication!
    I believe she needed an expert to decipher her phone message
    from us!	
                       			cj *->

    	Well cj - who shall we pick to stay sober to translate :-)   Hope
    you're feeling better.
    
    joyce

    
    	ohhhhh cj--- feel better, I think we'll need some high quality
    	come-backs for this dude-- and you are the....... 
    
    	"Princess of the Slashing Retort....." never saw one better--
    	quicker and more deadly than any other...
    
    
    	my hero actually....
    
    	hugs and a cough drop to you....
    	

    I would think it would be appropriate to get an explicit OK from people
    before you enter any personal information from this conference on
    another public site.  Just my 2-cents worth....

    
    	Anybody that has access to this conference also has access to
    	an internal web site.  So it's rather silly to start squawking
    	about privacy issues, don't you think?
    
    	Forcing someone to get premission to mimic a topic in this conf-
    	erence into a parallel web site would be like forcing everyone
    	to give explicit permission to read these entries in the first
    	place, even in here.
    
    	That said, I give you permission to mimic anything I've said in
    	this conference to a parallel internal web site.
    

    re: .65 by GAVEL::SATURNELLI
    
    >> explicit OK from people
    
    I agree.  Just common courtesy.  On the other hand, this is a public
    notesfile so nothing here is really private.   ;-)
    
    Not to worry.  I won't post more than just name, rank and serial number
    initially.  I might run a proto version by some people in here first.
    
    Cheers,
    
    /Bill

    re: .66 by BUSY::SLAB
    
    >> I give you permission to mimic anything I've said in this conference
    >> to a parallel internal web site.
    
    Ooh, carte blanche!  I can go nuts!
    
    ;-)

    
    	"Parallel" is the key word in that declaration.
    
    	If you decide to create a sub-page having anything to do with
    	barnyard animals, that doesn't exactly qualify.  Especially if
    	you decide to pull my picture into Adobe Photoshop and do some
    	"creative appending".
    
    	8^)
    

    re: .69 by BUSY::SLAB
    
    >> "creative appending".
    
    Don't give me ideas!
    
    ;-)

    While looking through the intro note, I noticed how there are many writers
    who haven't "registered" yet.  Should we apply pressure to these
    people?

�    While looking through the intro note, I noticed how there are many writers
�    who haven't "registered" yet.  Should we apply pressure to these
�    people?
    
    don't be tedious, bill...

    I don't remember an intro for you Mr. Laru?
    
    (-;
    
    

    re: .72 by JARETH::LARU
    
    >> don't be tedious, bill...
    
    Boy, Bruce, you really know how to take the fun out of everything!
    I'm going to have to join Jan in spanking you tomorrow, only _I_
    won't enjoy it.

    Well, I have to side with Bruce.  I didn't "intro" for a while
    myself.  Kind of didn't bother.  I'd see something and just respond.
    Eventually I went back and intro'd, but I guess I don't see it as
    a "must do" thing.
    
    But then, I'm kind of relaxed about most things
    
    						cj *->

    Yes Bill... I just read what I wrote in .10. Go crazy and have a party
    :-)

�    I'm going to have to join Jan in spanking you tomorrow, only _I_
�    won't enjoy it.
    
    You just keep your hands off my butt, boy!!
    
    /b
    

    I just checked the temp site;  very innocuous.

    Gee, it actually puts everybody in a box!
    I tend to knee-jerk against anything that regimented,
    but it's your site;  do what you want to do...

    Just what problem is this thing solving?
    
    Sorry to be so negative;  but as I said above, that's my personal bias.
    I think I'll drop out of this discussion...
    
    /bruce
    

    re: .78 by JARETH::LARU
    
    We'll chat tomorrow.

>    I agree.  Just common courtesy.  On the other hand, this is a public
>   notesfile so nothing here is really private.   ;-)
 
    Actually, this is a company-confidential notesfile like all the rest of
    them on this side of the firewall.
    
    Now where's my pillow?   

    There have been some valid, though paranoid, views voiced both on and
    off line.  Balancing the value added against the negatives is the key.
    Right now, I can't make a strong enough case for the value added by
    having a "cast of characters."  People just have to READ this
    conference to get a feel for who's who.  This can change but I won't be
    championing the cause.
    
    Bill

    
    	RE: .80
    
    	That's not exactly right.  It's only true in the case of some-
    	thing that's actually company confidential, like product infor-
    	mation.
    
    	They aren't going to fire you for printing out a joke and showing
    	it to your friends.
    

    	Bill - thanks for the effort - I appreciate your creativity!
    
    hugs
    
    joyce

    re .82
    
    Not really what I meant, but not a big deal either.

    
    	OK, you meant "Digital employees only" ... I see now.  But I'd
    	call a potential audience of 60K people "public".
    
    	8^)
    

    New pictures are now live.
    
    Some are from the Great Brook Farm outing, some are from last weekend's
    party at Terry's.

    AKO power will be shut off for maintenance during Saturday, 10 May.
    Noncritical systems will probably be shut down for the whole weekend
    beginning Friday evening.

    Power shutdown for this weekend has been cancelled.

    Some pictures from last weekend's dinner and show are now available.
    
    http://pces04.ako.dec.com/chat

    Bill,
    
    Don't know why anyone would say I would have something to
    say about the pics.... I think they came out fine.  The
    glowing read eyes seem somehow appropriate (being the mother
    of Devline ;-> )
    					cj *->

    re: .89 by CSLALL::JACQUES_CA
    
    >> being the mother of Devline ;->
    
    Hah!  I think I'll put that in!  Thanks, cj.
    
    Bill

          Oh no not the tongue shot...ohh my anything but the tongue shot..
    Red faced with embarrassment :-)
    
          Great pictures!!
    
    bob

>    Some pictures from last weekend's dinner and show are now available.


	Geeze - you'd think I hadn't show up...

    re: .91 by WRKSYS::BROWER
    
    >> Red faced with embarrassment :-)
    
    Yeah right, Bob.  Somehow, I think nothing would embarrass you!
    You're such a ham.  Hmmm, maybe you should join Barb's acting
    group.
    
    ;-)

    re: .92 by WAYLAY::GORDON
    
    >> Geeze - you'd think I hadn't show up...
    
    Only the output of a single camera with 5 shots left.  Let's see if
    you're in anyone else's camera.
    
    Bill

    	Doug - you're on my film - which hasn't been developed...  But it
    will be!
    
    joyce

    Daryll and Deb are noticeably missing....  Camera shy?
    
    						cj *->

    	Film yet to be developed...
    
    joyce

    
    I've been known to fog film and break lenses.
    
    Really!
    

    Ah, someone else with self-depreciating humor!
    
    					cj *->

Deb, it's probably from the heavy breathing of the guys taking the 
pictures.

Yes, Mz Debra, who has an *awesome* picture at the Soapbox site!!!  ;-)

    
    Professional photographers can make silk purses out of sows' ears 8^).
    

    	I'd say that statment applies to neither of you, both being
    naturally beautiful people...
    
    joyce

    Come and get it!
    
    Newly developed pictures from Joyce's camera, taken at the Coyote Cafe
    and Barb's show.
    
    http://pces04.ako.dec.com/chat/yankpics2.htm

    	No yelling at the photographer, I haven't used my camera in over a
    year! :-)
    
    joyce

    Hey Bill, why aren't there any pictures of YOU?  
    
    Always the picture taker never the subject.....!

    	Actually Linda there is one - a good one of just Bill alone - think
    its on the first set of pictures.  
    
    	Not to mention when you bring the camera, you avoid being in the
    pictures :-)
    
    joyce

	<making note to bring camera next time>

    no no no no....  just because you bring the camera doesn't mean you get
    to hide behind it......  :)

    Hmmm, there's no picture of me alone.  (not any more!)
    
    ;-)

    	Bill - tsk, tsk...  That was a nice picture of you.
    
    joyce

    re: .111 by PCBUOA::DEWITT
    
    > Bill - tsk, tsk...  That was a nice picture of you.
    
    Just checking to see if anyone would notice.
    
    :-)

    	The smiley face is kinda cute though :-)
    
    joyce

    This is a revision of 30.2 which I will delete.
    
    I'm putting together a new machine for myself and I'm migrating the
    singles chat web site there.  For a while, I will maintain both
    locations but will eventually turn off the original one.
    
    Here's the new address:
    
    http://ws1001.ako.dec.com/chat
    
    That's One Thousand and One in the address.
    
    [remainder from original note]
    
    I think initially, directions and maps will be the most useful part of
    this site.  It should also make it easier to see what is up ahead. 
    I'll particularly need help with this bit to keep it up-to-date.
    
    Comments, contributions, etc. are welcome, unless you don't like it in
    which case you can... oh nevermind.  >:-)
    
    /Bill

    	As always Bill, thanks for doing a great job!
    
    j

         ditto on what Joyce said.. 
    
    bb

    re: Joyce and Bob
    
    Thanks for the appreciation, but it's really no trouble at all.
    My machines will always have a web server running and the coding
    part is kept simple so anybody like me can easily do it.  ;-)
    
    Blush...