Conference akocoa::decpc_portables

    As it comes with 16MB of memory, I'm surprised.  How many applications
    are you running when it runs slow?
    
    Bernard

    For now I am really running nothing more than one or no applications. 
    I have more memory on order.  The slowness appears to be in the screen
    paint times.  Simply opening Explorer or other windows is very slow. 
    You can almost seen the graphics painted on the screen.
    
    Hopefully my memory upgrade will ship soon.

    Does the HiNote VP have a half-speed battery-saving setting? If so,
    you might have activated it accidentally.

My VP535 doesn't have such an option, but the VP500 series does have an
automatic circuit that slows down the system when it gets too hot.  Early
models had a lot of trouble with that, later ones seem to do better.

				Steve

    My 575 does not appear to have such an option. 
    
    One example of the "slow display" is as follows...
    
    I have the Microsoft Office Shortcut bar located at the top of the
    screen and set to "autohide".  When it is hidden and I move the cursor
    to the top of the screen the outline of the bar appears and you can
    watch the icon boxes paint slowly from left to right

Sounds like a lot of paging to me - in the System applet, Performance tab,
what does it say?  What are the virtual memory settings?

			Steve

    Oh, and is FindFast running?

    Performance says "Configured for optimal performance".  System
    resources 71% free.  Virtual memory set to let Windows manage it.  I
    assume that "Find Fast" is running since it is in the StartUp folder.
    
    Basically the system is running the "default" options that are set
    after installing software.  It does appear as if there is a lot of disk
    activity (the LCD disk indicator is on or blinking much of the time)
    when the system is just "idle"

    Try killing off FindFast. I routinely create a folder called
    "Startup Holding Tank" that I can drag stuff from my Startup folder
    into on a temporary-to-permanent basis without losing their
    properties.
    
    FindFast is really just a synonym for WeighDown. I've yet to see it
    actually help me find anything when I did enable it.

    Killing off FastFind and some other things in the StartUp folder made
    no difference.  I will try connecting it to a monitor to see if it is
    just the nature of the LCD display.  
    
    BTW - What I am comparing the "performance" to is my HiNote Ultra CT475

    It's not the nature of the display.  My VP535 is extremely snappy in
    response.
    
    				Steve

    Well, I have played around with the system some more and here is what I
    have learned...
    
    In addition to the VP 575 I also have a Celebris GL 6200 on my desk. 
    Both systems have essentially the same software loaded on them,
    including Norton Utilities.
    
    According to the CPU monitor in Norton Utilities on the GL 6200, when
    the system is "just sitting there", the CPU Used percentage is
    somewhere between 1% and 5%.  There is also not much, if any, disk
    activity indicated by the led on the front of the machine.
    
    According to the CPU monitor in Norton Utilities on the VP 575, when
    the system is "just sitting there", the CPU Used percentage was pegged
    at 100%.  There was also MUCH disk activity according to the LCD disk
    indicator either blinking or on steady.
    
    I then removed many of the programs that are started up when the system
    is booted (keep in mind that these programs are also running on the GL
    6200).
    
    After rebooting, the VP 575 is now showing a CPU Used percentage of
    about a constant 40% when the system is "just sitting there".  Also,
    the disk indicator is no longer on.
    
    While system performance is now better on the VP 575 than it was, it is
    still noticably sluggish.  I also don't understand why some programs
    have a performance impact on the VP 575 and apparently not on the GL
    6200.  Could it be the difference between the 166Mhz MMX processor on
    the VP 575 and the Pentium Pro 200Mhz on the GL 6200?
    
    

    And one more thing...
    
    I just borrowed 16MB of memory to bring the total system memory up to
    32MB.  The system is still idling at approximately 40% CPU Utilization.

Do a CTRL-ALT-DEL and list the programs running, then enter that list here.

			Steve

    re: WHYNOW::NEWMAN
    
    Are you comparing apples to apples with regard to hardware that's in
    the VP575 vs the GL6200?  Also, are you running the same O.S. on both?
    Windows 95?  Windows NT?  I *hope* you're running NT on the 6200
    otherwise, it would be such a waste of a Pentium Pro.
    
    You need to track down what's taking up that 40% of the cpu...  Perhaps
    it is your cpu monitor?
    
    Back to the hardware involved.  If you have IDE on one machine and SCSI
    on the other, and there is any disk activity at all, you will be eating
    cpu cycles on the IDE machine that won't be used on the SCSI machine.
    
    Bill
    

    re .14
    
    Well, I powered up my VP 575 to get the list of programs that are
    running as requested by .14 and it appears as if there is a problem. 
    Perhaps this is related to the apparent slowness of the system.
    
    When I power up the system the boot process completes and the Win95
    splash screen appears.  Then I get the following error message
    
    	While initializing device IOS:
    	Windows protection error.  You need to restart your computer.
    
    Several attempts to restart the computer have not resulted in the
    system booting correctly.  It will, however, start up in SAFE MODE.
    
    Any ideas?  Or should I just rebuild the system from scratch?  I am
    almost tempted to rebuild the system from the media supplied with the
    unit to see if I messed up something along the way that is creating the
    performance problems I have been having.

    re: .16 by WHYNOW::NEWMAN
    
    Check out the NOTED::WINDOWS95 conference.  A lot of problems seem to
    be fixed by reinstalling Windows 95.  Do be sure you have all the
    necessary machine-specific drivers before you begin.
    
    Cheers,
    
    /Bill

    Due to the fact that the system would not boot I have rebuilt the
    system from the software installation CD's supplied with the system. 
    So far I have loaded Windows95, the supplied Device Drivers, and Norton
    Utilities.  The only thing running in Norton Utilities is the CPU
    Monitor.
    
    Just as before, Norton Utilities is showing a steady 41% CPU
    Utilization with the system "idle".  As requested in .14, CTRL-ALT-DEL
    shows the following programs running:
    
    		Norton System Doctor
    		Explorer
    		Sysresrc
    		Cardagnt
    		Systray
    		Nprotect
    
    Just for the heck of it, I deleted all programs (via the CTRL-ALT-DEL
    window) other than Norton System Doctor and Explorer and it still
    shows a constant 45% CPU Utilization.
    
    I am puzzled...  On other systems, Norton System Doctor takes only
    1%-2% of an idle system to monitor the CPU activity.

    re my last entry...
    
    I don't know why I did not think of this earlier but I ran the "System
    Monitor" that is part of Windows95.  I don't know if it is monitoring
    the same thing but it is monitoring  Kernel: Processor Usage.  It is
    showing a constant value of approximately 50%.

    re: .19 by WHYNOW::NEWMAN
    
    Is there anything moving on the screen at all?  e.g. animated cursor
    
    /Bill

    Just for chuckles, have you run a VIRUS scan.,... 
    
    I have several of the VP575 systems and no such problem exists here.
    
    How many systems do you have ?
    If this is a ONE-OF-A-KIND situation, it is possible that you have a
    true hardware failure if it is not a virus.. 
    THe system is running Windows 95 SR 2.1 as opposed to the Windows 95
    SR0 that came out last year. Be sure that you used the Windows 95 CD
    that came with your system and then the System Cd to install the
    drivers. If you did not do that, you will have many different issues
    that have never been explored or documented..
    
    Vin

    Well, I have finally completed rebuilding my system from the CD's that
    came with it.  Other than the fact that the CPU monitor still says that
    the system is between 35%-40% busy when it is doing "nothing" the
    performance is MUCH BETTER.  It is running the same software as before
    but it is now fast and the screen paints fast too.
    
    The only remaining problem I have (and I had it before) is that I am
    unable to get the docking station with NIC card working.  This is low
    priority, however, since I primarily use RoamAbout Wireless networking.
    
    Thanks everyone for all the suggestions.

    re: .16
    
    > Windows protection error.  You need to restart your computer.
    
    I have seen this before.  It looks like you might have installed a PC
    Card that has not installed properly.  I had this problem when I
    installed a Xircom CE2 and ComboCard.
    
    Try reinstalling Win95 from CD.
    
    Bernard

    re: Norton Utilities and slow system
    
    Congratulations! You hit the Norton "Suck up the computer" bug!
    
    I had to reinstall NU 2.0 for Win95 three times, and turn off a number
    of features to get rid of the problems you describe. They are not that
    unusual; there are a number of configuration and disk conditions that
    seem to trigger this behaviour in NU System Monitor and Recycle Bin.
    
    I called Symantec about, and got a very telling response. The first
    tech I talked to said, "Yep, I know what's happening." He was about to
    tell me how to fix it (by uninstalling NU2.0) when I got shuffled to
    another tech, who told me essentially that it was a "feature". I pretty
    much told him it wasn't acceptable behaviour, but he was not helpful in
    finding a way to fix it.
    
    Now, I keep very minimal System Monitoring enabled, Recycle Bin stuff
    is completely disabled, and I use NU 2.0 for what I really wanted in
    the first place - a decent disk repair tool. 
    
    Geoff

Be careful that you don't enable the FAT32 with your VP575 OSR2.
(FAT32 supports 2 Terabytes hard disks.)

Norton Antivirus 2.x is FAT32-certified, I was told.
I'm not sure about NU 2.0 .
Solomon's Antivirus is not FAT32-compatible (?trashing HD, I heard?).

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NU2 and NAV for Windows 95 (either V2 or with the latest 95.0B patch) support
OSR2.  I run both of these on my VP535 with FAT32.

				Steve