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| 78.1 | Eh? | KAOA00::KAOP97::SOWREY | Son of Worf | Wed Aug 10 1994 11:37 | 9 | 
|  | RE: -.1
I'm confused... Do you run music under General MIDI or 
under SB? 
Does it work either way? Have you tried V1.6? (They 
fixed sound bugs under 1.6)
Geoff
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| 78.2 | How clear is mud? | BAHTAT::HILTON | Beer...now there's a temporary solution | Wed Aug 10 1994 12:06 | 15 | 
|  |     re .1
    
    I know your confused Geoff, but Steve was pretty clear!!
    
    >>  I'm using it in general midi mode for music, with SB mode for sound
    >>  effects.
    
    ie You choose General Midi for the music and SB for the Sound Affects?
    
    Go have another coffee, matey ;^)
    
    Cheers,
    
    Greg
    
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| 78.3 | As much fun to install/fix as to play! Whatta gam,e! | FILTON::NOBLE | Coke(r) Fiend | Fri Aug 12 1994 03:17 | 12 | 
|  |     Well, 1.6 (installed last night) didn't fix it. I don't know that it's
    necessarily a bug, maybe just my FX32 board, (which I thought was
    common, although I now realise I'm paying Reveal's entire wages this
    year...)
    
    I know the game's putting out the right noises, because they do play
    (dreadfully) through my PC speaker. Ahah! Diagnostic idea - I'll try it
    with no music, just sound, see if that does anything.
    
    Steev
    
    PS - Isn't this riveting?
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| 78.4 | Virtue is its own reward :-) | FILTON::NOBLE | Coke(r) Fiend | Mon Aug 15 1994 03:52 | 7 | 
|  |     SImple fix to my sound problem.
    
    I bought a registered copy at PC World.
    
    Sounds are now perfect, tho I don't know why they should have changed!
    
    Steev
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| 78.5 | Midi Woes | BAHTAT::HILTON | Beer...now there's a temporary solution | Mon Aug 15 1994 05:28 | 11 | 
|  |     Steve,
    
    do you have an occasional sticking instrument? Both my friend and I
    have wave boards, and even with the 1.6 Beta, one instrument will stick
    and play constantly!
    
    Cheers,
    
    Greg
    
    PS Changed the topic to Midi Sound Problems
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| 78.6 |  | KAOA09::KAOP97::SOWREY | Son of Worf | Mon Aug 15 1994 08:38 | 7 | 
|  | Greg,
What board do you have? I've got a GUS, and I don't
get a sticking sound, it crashes periodically. Mind
you I haven't yet tried V1.6...
Geoff
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| 78.7 | Logitech Wave & SB16 Wave | BAHTAT::HILTON | Beer...now there's a temporary solution | Mon Aug 15 1994 09:34 | 6 | 
|  |     Mine's a Logitech Soundman Wave, and my friend with the similiar
    problem has a SB16 with WaveBoard add-on.
    
    Cheers,
    
    Greg
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| 78.8 | Unless you count this: DSSSH! Dsssh! dsshh etc etc... | FILTON::NOBLE | Coke(r) Fiend | Mon Aug 15 1994 11:39 | 5 | 
|  |     No, no sticking instrument as yet. Maybe this Reveal's OK! Course, I've
    never played an all-nighter yet...
    
    
    Steve         
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| 78.9 | Driver conflicts?? | KAOA00::KAOP97::SOWREY | Son of Worf | Mon Aug 15 1994 13:42 | 7 | 
|  | Greg,
Do you have to run any drivers for the board to work?
(i.e. certain boards require software emulation)
Geoff
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| 78.10 | No drivers, plus my mates Wblaster is official | BAHTAT::HILTON | Beer...now there's a temporary solution | Wed Aug 17 1994 12:04 | 3 | 
|  |     re .9
    
    Nope Geoff.
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| 78.11 | Known Features | BAHTAT::HILTON | Beer...now there's a temporary solution | Thu Aug 18 1994 08:46 | 12 | 
|  |     Well I got the following reply from ID. It's hard to notice the bug
    until someone points it out you, who's into Midi/music.
    
    Cheers,
    
    Greg
    
    > Occasionally a note 'sticks' when using Midi, and it just plays
    > constantly until another song starts up.
    
    This is something we are aware of. Thanks for the feedback.
    
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| 78.12 | Logitech's answer | BAHTAT::HILTON | Beer...now there's a temporary solution | Thu Aug 18 1994 09:12 | 11 | 
|  |     Well Logitech say this, which seems wrong to me:
   
    Q1)  Why do I hear a continuously played note when I play  
    Id's DOOM program with music set to General MIDI.  
    
    A1)  Id has come out with an update to DOOM, version 1.3 which 
    will correct this problem.  If you are a registered user of DOOM
    you should be getting a copy,  otherwise you can download the
    update from their BBS.
    
    
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| 78.13 | Just for the halibut... | KAOA00::KAOP97::SOWREY | Son of Worf | Thu Aug 18 1994 12:11 | 8 | 
|  | RE: -.1
Sounds fishy to me too -- id has repeated emphasized 
that there is *NO* V1.3...
Maybe someone should tell Logitech...
Geoff
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| 78.14 | Fixed now | BAHTAT::HILTON | Beer...now there's a temporary solution | Mon Sep 19 1994 04:35 | 6 | 
|  |     The 1.666 patch fixed my sticking note!!!
    
    
    Excellent!
    
    Greg
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| 78.15 | My FX Wave doesn't like Doom ][... | 34017::REED | John Reed @CBO = DC/NIS Columbia, S.C | Mon Oct 31 1994 01:43 | 25 | 
|  |     I also have the REVEAL SoundFX 32 card.  It works the same way that .0
    mentioned.  I had gotten it to work very nicely with the older DOOM 
    shareware using the General MIDI for music, and the SoundBlaster emulation
    for the effects.  The IRQ's and addresses and DMA settings all work nicely
    for windows, and other games.  I got hooked on this DOOM game, and had
    to run out and purchase DOOM ][ ($49.00 at Best Buy) to see the further
    adventures.
    
    But when I load DOOM ][, I get the theme music, which is powerful and
    well orchestrated, but I don't hear any effects.  If I go to the DOOM
    MENU, and select the sound option, I can turn down the music enough to
    hear some clicking and an echo.  I don't hear any gunshots, or
    breathing, or door openings, or gnashing of teeth that I so enjoy with
    the original DOOM code.  
      
    I notice that my DOOM ][ engine is version 1.666.   I see in the
    patches that there is a PATCH called DM1666RP.ZIP.  I assume that this
    is a patch to bring OLDER registered versions up to version 1.666.  Is
    there some patch that I can load to make this version work as well as
    my older version does  with my sound card?   Or have I forgotten
    something in my installation?  I followed all of the instructions...
    
    Thanks for any insight.
    
    JR
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| 78.16 | Patch disk required.... | ROMEOS::HARRIS_MA | Sales Consultant | Mon Oct 31 1994 14:12 | 8 | 
|  |     RE: -.1
    
    See my note a few back. THEY ARE WORKING ON A MAJOR PATCH to Doom2
    should be within a couple of weeks. Call the Tech support number given
    to you on the RED screen when exiting Doom2. They will put you on the
    list to get the SOUND-UPDATE patch disk mailed to you.
    
    Mark
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| 78.17 |  | FILTON::NOBLE | Please insert money | Wed Nov 09 1994 09:01 | 4 | 
|  |     Anyone got this yet? I'd love the sound patch - I'm finding Doom ][
    unplayable without me noises....
    
    Steev
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| 78.18 | Strange error: w/Soundman Wave card.. | NOVA::BOIKO | Mike Boiko, RdB Performance, 381-2362 | Tue Nov 22 1994 02:23 | 10 | 
|  |     I picked up a logitech Soundman Wave last night but when I attempt to run 
    DOOM II I get an error stating something to the effect "Cyberman is not
    installed" Now I know what a cyberman mouse looks like...but, why am I
    getting this message. 
    
    Could some kind soul who has a Logitech Soundman Wave card please list
    their config.sys and autoexec.bat commands as they pertain to this
    sound card..
    								Thanks
    								-mike- 
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| 78.19 |  | BAHTAT::HILTON | Beer...now there's a temporary solution | Tue Nov 22 1994 07:15 | 12 | 
|  |     Hi Mike,
    
    I have nothing in my config.sys, and just the soundset command in
    autoexec.bat.
    
    One thought is does Doom think you have a logitech mouse?
    
    Running the Logitech Install should update your autoexec for you.
    
    Greg
    
    PS The General MIDI sounds great in DOOM
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| 78.20 | Took it all out except 1 command line... | NOVA::BOIKO | Mike Boiko, RdB Performance, 381-2362 | Tue Nov 22 1994 11:25 | 12 | 
|  |     re .1
    
    I use a Microsoft mouse without any problems...
    
    I did as you suggested, and commented out all "set blaster"... all
    commands that the install process placed in my config.sys and
    autoexec.bat files on my system disk. I copied over thoses commands
    thinking I would need them on my DOOM/DOOM II boot disk. But I guess
    from what you say all I really need is "D:\SOUNDMAN\SMWSET.SYS" in my 
    config.sys file.... I'll give it a shot and see what happens.
    
    ~								-mike-
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| 78.21 | No sound -  why the hell not ????????? | KERNEL::WITHALLG | The Hero | Thu Nov 24 1994 07:54 | 16 | 
|  |     
    Haven't been able to read the replies here, Maybe I'll have too .. but
    
    
    I stuck in a SB16 into my Dell 486/33  433SI machine  ran Install 
    loaded the software, plugged in my headphones and .......
    
    Zilch.
    
    Don't know a thing about Drivers/setup/technical terms
    
    
    someone care to help a Fool ??
    
    
    Gary 
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| 78.22 | Simple start | BAHTAT::HILTON | Beer...now there's a temporary solution | Thu Nov 24 1994 09:01 | 13 | 
|  |     Gary,
    
    you need to know what Port, IRQ, and DMA the soundblaster is using,
    then run setup in Doom and choose the music card and Sound FX card to
    be SoundBlaster, and answer the questions correctly.
    
    This is assuming that the Soundblaster install has gone fine, and
    (not having ever owned a Soundblaster) that any test sounds can be
    heard.
    
    Cheers,
    
    Greg
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| 78.23 | Look, I"VE tried it...! | FILTON::NOBLE | Juggling while Rome burns | Thu Nov 24 1994 09:46 | 8 | 
|  |     Err, Gary...
    
    	You are plugging the heaphones into the soundboard (on the back)
    not the CD port on the front?
    
    I thought so. No idea then...
    
    Steev
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| 78.24 | ok -   neeeexxxxxtt | KERNEL::WITHALLG | The Hero | Thu Nov 24 1994 10:33 | 15 | 
|  |      
    
    -2      Greg,
    
    
     thanks for that -  
    
    
    how do I find out what port/irq/dma I'm using !!!!
    
    
    
    Gary
    
    
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| 78.25 | One step at a time | BAHTAT::HILTON | Beer...now there's a temporary solution | Fri Nov 25 1994 04:05 | 17 | 
|  |     Gary,
    
    Well when you run the Soundblaster install it should preselect them for
    you, or allow you to choose.
    
    A second method is to type set at the DOS prompt and look for the line
    starting BLASTER, then the parameters after that show what each is.
    
    If you look in your Soundblaster manual it should be more help than me
    as I've never owned a Soundblaster!!
    
    I would forgot about Doom for step one, and just get the Sblaster
    configured and running any tests correctly. 
    
    Cheers,
    
    Greg
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| 78.26 |  | KERNEL::WITHALLG | The Hero | Fri Nov 25 1994 04:18 | 12 | 
|  |     
    
     Manual ???    I should have a manual ???????
    
     Jesus,  you send someone out to pinch something and you only get 
     half a job.
    
    
     Seriously though,
     thanks for the help. I'll have a play around over the weekend.
    
    Gary
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| 78.27 | Is BLASTER needed? | FORTY2::HOWELL | Just get to the point... | Fri Nov 25 1994 04:27 | 6 | 
|  |     How come Doom works for me, then, on a raw boot (ie. F5) ??
    
    Nothing sets the BLASTER environment variable, and yet I still have all
    the sound in Doom....
    
    Dan$just wondering
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| 78.28 |  | BAHTAT::HILTON | Beer...now there's a temporary solution | Fri Nov 25 1994 05:20 | 8 | 
|  |     re .27
    
    I guess if you have a real Soundblaster, AND you've set Doom up
    correctly, then it will work.
    Gary doesn't know what his IRQ, etc is therefore can't set up Doom.
    
    Perhaps you could just take the defaults in Doom set up Gary, I assume
    you have run Doom setup?
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| 78.29 | will that help  me  then ??. | KERNEL::WITHALLG | The Hero | Fri Nov 25 1994 07:48 | 8 | 
|  |     
    
    -1   
    
    No !!!
    
    
    
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| 78.30 | Yes, do it | BAHTAT::HILTON | Beer...now there's a temporary solution | Fri Nov 25 1994 09:16 | 3 | 
|  |     Err, yes, run Doom setup and choose Music Setup, then Sound FX setup!
    
    Greg
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| 78.31 | yessssssssssssssssssssssss | KERNEL::WITHALLG | The Hero | Mon Nov 28 1994 07:01 | 15 | 
|  |     
    
    Yoooowsaaaaaaaahhhh
    
    DONE IT/CRACKED IT/GOT IT
    
    Thanks for the help chaps. I ran SB16TEST and that proved the card was 
    good. Then I ran Doom setup ( was set to no sound !) et voila.
    
    Now I play with all the lights on. What a difference sound makes. 
    
    This is great....
    
    
    Gary 
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| 78.32 | DOOM needs sound!! | WELSWS::BOURNEJ | Now 2 grandsons - Timothy & Joshua | Tue Nov 29 1994 04:12 | 16 | 
|  |     I used to get sound from my SB16 MCD ADSP with Doom 1 but no more!!
    Since I last had sound from DOOM I had upgraded the motherboard from
    386sx-25 to 486DX2-66 and added an external CD drive which connects to
    it's own i/f card.
    
    Sound is fine with everything else including WOLF 3d, and ENCARTA.
    
    When I say no sound, I mean that there is very faint sound which is
    almost inaudible but sound from SB is specified in DOOM setup and
    volume contol is set to high!
    
    Any ideas??
    
    Regards,
    
    Jim
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| 78.33 | Dodgy motherboard? | BAHTAT::HILTON | Beer...now there's a temporary solution | Tue Nov 29 1994 10:43 | 7 | 
|  |     Jim,
    
    Have you tried any other Protected mode games? That would help narrow
    it down a bit.
    
    
    Greg
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| 78.34 |  | WELSWS::BOURNEJ | Now 2 grandsons - Timothy & Joshua | Tue Nov 29 1994 11:47 | 5 | 
|  |     Greg,
    
    Can you suggest a Protected mode game that I can try??
    
    Jim
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| 78.35 | Still getting nowhere! | WELSWS::BOURNEJ | Now 2 grandsons - Timothy & Joshua | Tue Dec 06 1994 06:20 | 17 | 
|  |     I have tried the demo of CYCLEMANIA from the SUPERCD with january's
    edition of PCPLUS and this works fine. However, as per my note about
    DOOM under windows, DOOM works fine under windows unless I specify the
    SB and then it hangs at the first screen.
    
    If CYCLEMANIA really is a protected mode game (it looks like it from
    the startup) then the basic hardware seems ok so I think it must be a
    DMA or IRQ conflict as previously stated but I am having trouble
    tracking it down. 
    
    I have an ET4000 clone VGA card, a multi i/o IDE card that drives hd &
    FD, 2S & 1P, SB16MCD-ADSP & CD i/f so I am unsure how to resolve where
    the conflict is.
    
    Any more ideas folks?
    
    Jim
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| 78.36 | Looks like it could be IRQ conflict | WELSWS::BOURNEJ | Now 2 grandsons - Timothy & Joshua | Thu Dec 08 1994 17:55 | 11 | 
|  |     I have got a Logitec bus mouse at IRQ5, Printer at IRQ7 and according
    to MSD IRQ2 is used by "Second 8259A" and handled by the BIOS.
    
    The manual shows that I can set the SB16 to 2, 5, 7 or 10 but DOOM
    setup only allows 2, 5 or 7 which I have used up. According to MSD IRQ
    10 is (Reserved) and handled by the BIOS but I assume I could use it if
    only I could convince DOOM to use it!!
    
    Any ideas folks??
    
    Jim
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| 78.37 | 7 can be shared | BAHTAT::HILTON | Beer...now there's a temporary solution | Fri Dec 09 1994 08:03 | 1 | 
|  |     USe 7, LPT1 can share it.
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| 78.38 |  | WELSWS::BOURNEJ | Now 2 grandsons - Timothy & Joshua | Wed Dec 14 1994 06:41 | 10 | 
|  |     You're not going to believe this!!! I have just installed v1.666 from
    the PCPLUS December CD and sound now works OK. Something must have got
    corruptet as my original version was copied to someone else who had
    sound with no problems, but my sound never worked properly!
    
    Many thanks for all the help & hints!
    
    Regards,
    
    Jim
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