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Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

Title:*OLD* ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference
Notice:Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1
Moderator:IOSG::PYE
Created:Thu Jan 30 1992
Last Modified:Tue Jan 23 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4343
Total number of notes:18308

3958.0. "IAD slow (again!)" by KERNEL::OTHENJ () Thu Mar 10 1994 12:07

Hi,

Can someone help me with a problem with IAD?

The customer has two machines - one with v3.0-1 and one with v3.0a. They 
have been complaining that IAD takes approx 4 minutes to complete the 
index, so I asked them to fill in the system field (If they are on a 
cluster should they fill in the cluster name or the node name??), but this 
did not make any difference with the timing.

The strange thing is that if the ALL-IN-1 manager tries IAD, it only takes 
a few seconds, so it seems to be a 'lack of privileges' problem. Has anyone 
seen this before, and is there anything that can be done about it?

	Thanks,

			Julie
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3958.1UTRTSC::SCHOLLAERTBe CASE sensitiveThu Mar 10 1994 13:0314
Hello Julie,

I am afraid that this is known behaviour. For all non-priv users,
ALL-IN-1 tries to access all ACCESS.DAT's on the system.
For "OAFC$SYSMAN users" ALL-IN-1 just reads the partition.

Difference when System: field filled in was solved in 3.0-1 I think.

Tell the customer this is the price he/she has to paid for 
a proven security model....................

Regards,

Jan
3958.2IOSG::STANDAGEThu Mar 10 1994 13:2416
    
    Julie,
    
    For local IAD, do not explicitly give a node name. 
    Is there any difference between IAD from the V3.0A system and the
    V3.0-1 machine. We did improve the normal user performance of IAD, but
    off hand I can't remember which patch included this.
    
    Management IADs will be instantaneous. As the other chap said, if
    you're the manager you have access to all drawers on the system, so
    this is basically just listing PARTITION.DAT.
    
    
    Kevin.
3958.3KERNEL::OTHENJThu Mar 10 1994 15:1025
    Hi,
    
    
    The customer's v3.0a machine does seem quicker, but this is only a 
    development machine so you would not expect it to be as slow as the
    live (v3.0-1) machine. I have found the relevant point in the v3.0a 
    release notes which explains that 
    
    
            2.4.22 Improved Performance - Index of Available Drawers
    
                  Improved performance of Index of Available Drawers (IAD)
                  by reducing the number of calls to the File Cabinet
                  Server.
    
                  Improved performance when reading drawer information by
                  adding checks that a user has typed exit, in order to
                  leave the Read operation faster.
    
                                                        
    Does anyone know if non-priv'd users have seen a great performance
    improvement as I can then tell the customer to upgrade.
    
    	Thanks,
    			Julie
3958.4If the FCS is used a lot, MUPA is a must!IOSG::STANDAGEThu Mar 10 1994 15:5915
    
    Julie,
    
    Really the customer should upgrade to V3.0A as soon as is humanly
    possible. 
    
    There are a LOT of useful fixes, in particular with the File
    Cabinet Server. If your customer uses shared drawers (as I guess they
    are if want to use IAD a lot), then this alone is a good enough 
    justification for upgrading to MUPA.
    
    
    Kevin.