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Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

Title:	OLD ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference
Notice:	Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1
Moderator:	IOSG::PYE

Created:	Thu Jan 30 1992
Last Modified:	Tue Jan 23 1996
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	4343
Total number of notes:	18308

3392.0. "File Server won't start" by TEACH::ANGIE () Wed Oct 13 1993 21:33

I am having a problem starting up the file server.  What we did
was did a BACKUP/IMAGE of the ALL-IN-1 system we had in Atlanta
to tape, and then restored it to a system we have in Maryland.  

One of the things I had to change was the server name.  So I went
in to SM MFC MS and then deleted the older server that said
MARETA::"73=", and created a new server CALVIN::"73=".  This went
off without a hitch.  However when I went to start the server
(STA) the system said it was submitted to the batch que. 
Immediately after that I did a $SH QUE/ALL command on the que and
the job was not there.  Then if I try to do anything with that
server it comes back with the error message 
   
			The session is not valid, may be closed
When I did a Gold/W to find further details none were offered.

Has anyone heard of something like this or where I might check
for suggestions?  I am thinking that maybe there is more involved
then just deleting and creating a new server since we brought it
from another system.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Angie

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
3392.1		GIDDAY::SETHI	He's wound them up no end :-)	`Thu Oct 14 1993 01:15`	19
	Hi Angie, >I am thinking that maybe there is more involved then just deleting and >creating a new server since we brought it from another system. Did you have ALL-IN-1 IOS version 3.0 installed on the target system, prior to copying it ? If not than this could be the cause of your problem. Set default to OA$LOG and have a look at the OAFC$SERVER_STARTUP.LOG. What does this have in it ? My guess is the the RUN command is failing perhaps with a UIC type of error message, in any case let us know if there are any error messages reported. The other logfiles are in SYS$MANAGER and are called OAFC$SERVER_ERROR.LOG and OAFC$SERVER.LOG. Regards, Sunil
3392.2	bypass queues, see if the server itself is happy.	IOSG::STANDAGE		`Thu Oct 14 1993 10:01`	13
	Angie I wonder if this might be problem with the queues ? Why not try and start the server in the foreground, and see if that works: $ FCS=="$SYS$SYSTEM:OAFC$SERVER.EXE" $ FCS OA$DATA_SHARE:CALVIN::"73=". Kevin.
3392.3	Tried startup log files	TEACH::ANGIE		`Thu Oct 14 1993 19:22`	17
	I looked in the various files as suggested. The OAFC$SERVER_ERROR.LOG file had nothing in it. The OAFC$SERVER.LOG file stated that the STARTUP FOR THE FILE CABINET SERVER ..... COMPLETED. The OAFC$SERVER_STARTUP.LOG showed no errors. And the process is being created without any problems. It is just when you go in to SM MFC MS it states the server is stopped, and you can't stop or start it up. Any other suggestions would be great. I am interested in reply .1 referring to the UIC. ALL-IN-1 V 3.0 has never been installed on the system before. What effect does this have with UIC's? Angie
3392.4	More questions	GIDDAY::SETHI	Holland 2-England 0,Andrew was't there	`Fri Oct 15 1993 00:51`	26
	Hi Angie, >I am interested in reply .1 referring to the UIC. I was just wondering what ownerships you have for the files ? And I come back to my original question did you just copy over the ALL-IN-1 disk over ? If you did not have ALL-IN-1 IOS installed on the target system as you have indicated, than you will have problems. The reason being that ALL-IN-1 IOS places files in SYS$LIBRARY, these routines are required by ALL-IN-1. From what I know there are a number of files that are required by the FCS in SYS$LIBRARY (perhaps Bob can confirm this). It's never a good idea just to copy over ALL-IN-1 from one system to another, when you have not had ALL-IN-1 IOS installed on the target machine. Kevin's suggestion is a good one, let us know what happens. Regards, Sunil PS - Andrew I just thought I would change my personal name, I am sure you will approve :-) !!!
3392.5	OAFC$SYSMAN identifier ?	IOSG::STANDAGE		`Fri Oct 15 1993 09:51`	15
	Angie, Hang on....the server starts but the UI says STOPPED ? This sounds like a classic case of the user account not having the OAFC$SYSMAN identifier. Check this too - the ALL-IN-1 manager's account should have it as well as any other account accessing the Manage Servers subsystem. Kevin.