Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

    It might be one of these things to do with WPS-PLUS needing a real
    screen there to do certain operations. You know, like the problems you
    get in /NOINIT sometimes.
    
    Could you stick some trace or verify on and see what it was doing?
    Could it be waiting for a prompt answer or something?
    
    Graham

     Thanks - will see what we can set up.  Also, checking to see what
    may be missing.
    
    
    Tim

    Tim,
    
    Do you have the franchise for CART loops (after all note 957 is yours)
    
    Have you exploded the KITINSTAL yet? 
    
    P.S I never did like Barclays (:==:)
    
    Regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks

    Tim,
    
    What I meant to say in the P.S to .3 and forgot to add is of course that the
    customer in question is in fact running an unsupported language version
    of ALL-IN-1 in the U.S - I don't know if it's relevant but I thought i'd
    mention it.
    
    P.S and looking at the old code stuff it wouldn't be a waste of time
        asking him what disk controller he's running (yes that old
        chestnut)
        
    Regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks

    Thanks - I will check the controller. Below is what I have received 
    from them thus far.
    
      
    
    
      System ASNF01 is a VAX 4000-300 running VMS V5.5-2.
      (HW Ver=00D30000000000000B000006, SID=0B000006, XSID=01340401,
    DSN=V1.2)
    
    It is still sitting in the LEF state with only nominal changes in the
    CPU time used and it shows the current file/application as being:
            ANYK08$DUA2:[ALLIN1.LIB_SHARE]OA$MAIN.EXE
    
    In case it makes any difference, other items showing on the show
    proc/cont
    screen include:PC=7FFEE46A, PSL=03C00004, USER SP=7FF1F308,
    EVENT FLAGS=60200000 & E0000000.  The working set is 1898 and the
    virtual pages are 10336.  I still have not been able to figure out what
    it
    is waiting for.
    
    From the log file, which I will also send, it seems that it stopped at
    the point of creating the CM files.
    
    
    Command he is using for batch run:
    
    ! A1030_CART_BATCH.COM
    $!
    $ SET DEFAULT SYS$UPDATE
    $!
    $ IF (F$MODE() .NES. "INTERACTIVE") THEN GOTO SKIPSUB
    $SKIPSUB:
    $!
    $ @SYS$UPDATE:VMSINSTAL A1030 SFCD:[A1030.KIT] OPTIONS
    I,A,AWD=ANYK08$DUA1:
    $!
    
    Output from the log file:
    
    
    11-MAY-1993 at 13:31.
    %VMSINSTAL-W-ACTIVE, The following processes are still active:
            MRLOGGER
            MR$T_N_1
            SERVER_0009
    
    
      A1 V3.0
    
    
    %VMSINSTAL-I-USEANS, The auto-answer file will be used.
    %VMSINSTAL-I-RESTORE, Restoring product save set A ...
    %VMSINSTAL-I-RELMOVED, Product's release notes have been moved to
    SYS$HELP.
    
        This is a REMOTE ALL-IN-1 V3.0 BASE kit
    
    
        Your current system is ALL-IN-1 V2.3.  Using the FULL ALL-IN-1 V3.0
    kit,
        the following type of installation can be performed :
    
            (1)     Upgrade of ALL-IN-1 V2.3 to ALL-IN-1 V3.0
            (2)     Installation of a co-existent ALL-IN-1 V3.0
    
        The following options are also available :
    
            (RL)    Register licenses for pre-requisite software
            (PC)    Perform pre-installation system and account checks
            (RC)    Run conflict checking and resolving tool (CART)
            (H)     Request help
               
    
    * Which option do you wish to perform [1]: RC
    
       You have chosen the CART pre-installation option. Please specify the
       installation type you wish to pre-check.
    
       Your current system is ALL-IN-1 V2.3. Using the FULL ALL-IN-1 V3.0
    kit,
       the CART can be run to pre-check the following installation types :-
    
            (1)     Check before FULL upgrade of ALL-IN-1 V2.3 to ALL-IN-1
    V3.0
            (2)     Check before upgrade of existing ALL-IN-1 V2.3 language
    
    
    * Which option do you wish to perform [1]: 1
           
    * Enter language code for this installation (2 characters): US
    %A1LUS-I-RELANK, Restoring the LANGUAGE kit savesets
    %VMSINSTAL-I-RESTORE, Restoring product save set B ...
    
        If you wish to install a dialectal variation of ENGLISH language,
        enter the code for the dialect component you wish to use.  If you
        do not wish to install a dialectal variation of ENGLISH language,
        then accept the answer of NO_DIALECT.
    
    * Enter dialect code for this installation (5 characters) [US_GB]:
    %A1DUS_GB-I-RECOUK, Restoring the DIALECT saveset.
    %VMSINSTAL-I-RESTORE, Restoring product save set A ...
    %A1LUS-I-RESCARTSS, Restoring BRITISH CART kit saveset
    %VMSINSTAL-I-RESTORE, Restoring product save set L ...
            
    
       The Conflict checking And Resolution Tool has run already.
    
    * Do you want run the tool again for this language [YES]? YES
    %A1LUS-I-RUNNINGA1, Running ALL-IN-1
    %CART-I-CRE 13:44 Creating CART datafiles
       

    I am still trying to get this guy to open up the save set and start
    tracing.  He is starting to get the idea, see below.
    
    Anyway, here is a quick question that may jog someones memory and get it
    down to a specific script or command file.
    
    
    I am suspecting though that there is a point in the process early on where
    it tries to run A1, ie: I see it run oa$main on the sho proc, and at that
    point something in the process needs something that would be there for an
    interactive process that is not there for a batch process.  It could be a
    logical or a symbol or something else.  It might be related to the process
    mailbox.
     
    Thanks,
    
    Tim

    Tim,
    
    i can see exactly where it runs up ALL-IN-1 and what it does thereafter
    opens form-libraries, calls two scripts - in fact the files should
    still be out there on the machine we have the v3.0 savesets on.
    
    I didn't see anything weird going on - which is why i asked about
    the disk controllers - the message he's seeing is very early on
    in the second of the scripts (CM_CART_DRIVER).
    
    regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks
                                                 

    Thanks Andrew!
    
    Barclay is being quiet about the disk(s).
    
    I am trying to get them to tell me about cm_cart_dirver or
    beyond that.
    
    Tim